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Lucas
12-20-13, 10:09 PM
i don't know why everyone is comparing the untouchables to the godfather. it never pretends to be some epic masterpiece, and it's a completely different film from those ones. besides slightly similar subject matter, it's nothing like those movies.

It's not just The Godfather that it's being compared to, but other films in the gangster/mob genre. With films out there like Goodfellas,Casino,The Departed,Road to Perdition,Millers Crossing,Donnie Brasco,A Bronx Tale and even De Palma's own Scarface. The Untouchables just doesn't stack up. It feels juvenile and one-sided.It hasn't aged well at all either.

Mesmerized
12-20-13, 10:38 PM
i don't know why everyone is comparing the untouchables to the godfather.

They completely contrast. Where the Untouchables glorify the good guys, the God Father glorifies the bad guys.

Cobpyth
12-20-13, 10:41 PM
The Untouchables is worth more than a 5, if only for this scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-sV-O2-jCY

Classic.

Mesmerized
12-20-13, 10:46 PM
I watched The Man Who Wasn't There (2001) . Really good film set in 1949. It's in black and white. The pacing and the music make you start to believe you're watching an old movie until a girl gives the lead character oral sex. In the next scene, he's sitting on his porch smoking a cigarette and I had an image of some kid walking up to him wearing a life preserver and asking him if he knows where Dr Emmett Brown lives. Overall, it's a good movie. Highest ratings.

Mesmerized
12-20-13, 10:50 PM
The Untouchables is worth more than a 5, if only for this scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-sV-O2-jCY

Classic.

I'm getting an error message that says "This video is not available in your country."

Cobpyth
12-20-13, 10:50 PM
I watched The Man Who Wasn't There (2001) . Really good film set in 1949. It's in black and white. The pacing and the music make you start to believe you're watching an old movie until a girl gives the lead character oral sex. In the next scene, he's sitting on his porch smoking a cigarette and I had an image of some kid walking up to him wearing a life preserver and asking him if he knows where Dr Emmett Brown lives. Overall, it's a good movie. Highest ratings.

Very glad you liked it. It's one of my favorite films of the previous decade.

Cobpyth
12-20-13, 10:52 PM
I'm getting an error message that says "This video is not available in your country."

Where do you live? It works fine here in Belgium. It's the scene with the baseball bat.

mark f
12-20-13, 10:54 PM
It doesn'r work in the U.S., but there are probably others.

Mesmerized
12-20-13, 10:58 PM
Where do you live? It works fine here in Belgium. It's the scene with the baseball bat.

I live in the U.S. I know the scene you're mention. Good scene.

Mesmerized
12-20-13, 11:00 PM
Very glad you liked it. It's one of my favorite films of the previous decade.

I wanted to see for myself the scene in context of the guy seamlessly smoking in the doorway. It's brilliant. You had posted an animation of it in the smoking thread and I really liked it.

Yes. I have to say it's one of my favorites as well. The lead actor would make a good casting role as Humphrey Bogart.

The Gunslinger45
12-20-13, 11:01 PM
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Originally I passed on seeing this in the theater due to the fact that I thought it would be a tween version of Battle Royale. After seeing the film, I do regret not seeing it on the big screen. Yes social commentary about youth in Japan was stronger in that film and it was far more violent. But violence is not everything in movies. I thought this was a very good film in it's own right and should not be known as just "America's Battle Royale."

I liked the survival elements, I liked that they trained the contestants instead of just dropping a crap ton of kids into the kill zone. Though that direction for Battle Royale went toward the "kids behaving badly" commentary. And I think Jennifer Lawerence was very good in the film. Also it is nice to see a female protagonist that is defined more by her actions and personality and less due to looks. An anti Megan Fox if you will.

While certain things did annoy me like the use of the shaky cam for the very first scenes, and they really could have pulled back during certain action scenes. But over all, a good movie. And now that I have seen this movie, I will see the sequel in the theater.

3.5

Mesmerized
12-20-13, 11:05 PM
The Untouchables is worth more than a 5, if only for this scene:

Classic.


American edit-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy3MtznDeqg

-KhaN-
12-21-13, 05:31 AM
It's bad dude. I suggest you don't ever watch it. It's a complete failure.The acting performances are wooden,the story is laughable, and the movie just feels extremely derivative and generic.There are like two scenes that I'd consider okay. I'd give it around a 4/10.He's being generous giving it a 5/10 lol.

Hehehhe,I had same problems with movie as you did,I didn't want to give it 3or4 cuz we have movies like Batman and Robin, Twilight so i don't know what to give them,this movies is really bad but i can't compare it to Batman and Robin that is just cruel o.0... :D

-KhaN-
12-21-13, 05:33 AM
Wow, a 5/10! I haven't watched that movie yet, but it sounds bad...

It is bad,just don't watch it,if I played part in this movie you whould see better acting,if we create thread and write story,we whould done it better.

cricket
12-21-13, 08:29 AM
The Road Killers 2

dropshipmeds
12-21-13, 08:42 AM
nice your froum site post.

Ydirector
12-21-13, 02:05 PM
'myn bala warriors of the steppe'

Movie was good. Was it a foreign language with English subtitles. It had betrayal, violence and romance.

GeorgeGook
12-21-13, 04:09 PM
Watched the feel good film of "We Bought A Zoo" with the girlfriend who enjoyed the film alot.

Wasn't as bad as i was expecting it to be and thought Damon and Johansson both played their roles very well.

Lucas
12-21-13, 04:10 PM
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After Hours is a deliciously odd black comedy from Scorsese. It deals with a man who in an attempt to get laid with a cute girl ends up experiencing strange people and quite possibly the worst night one could ever have. It's hilarious,strange and quite eerie at points because it's something we can relate to. I give it a 3.5. It kind of reminds me of films like Blue Velvet and Eyes Wide Shut in a way.Naive main protagonist experiencing a hidden underbelly of society he wouldn't experience on the regular basis.

The Gunslinger45
12-21-13, 04:55 PM
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I am glad I decided to give this film series a chance. The first movie was good, but this was better! Not as much action then the first, but a lot more intrigue and twists. While the first one was much more of a struggle to survive, this became more of a chess match or an episode of the HBO series Rome. With far less nudity and cursing mind you.

Also, not as much shacky cam! And none that I could tell in the non action scenes. Seems someone invested in a damn tripod. Also the "love triangle" was not some annoying Twilight BS. Two guys both from different parts of Katniss' life, but each with at least some kind of appeal. The childhood friend and one born from bonds of combat. Granted one is made up for reasons explained in the movie, but that is a different story. Either way, a very good continuation, and I look forward to the final two installments which seem to be breaking up the final book into two pieces.

3.5

MFMT82
12-21-13, 05:06 PM
Stolen Summer
I haven't heard about this movie before and I think it is a good movie. I really enjoyed watching it.

Pierce
12-21-13, 05:33 PM
Flight with Denzel Washington. 7.5/10

The Gunslinger45
12-21-13, 10:23 PM
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Even without dialogue Mel brings the funny!

4

Lucas
12-21-13, 10:41 PM
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Blood Simple is in few words absolutely brilliant. It is an absolutely incredible thriller, and one of the best directorial debuts I have ever seen. It is an assured,intelligent and perfectly calculated piece of filmmaking.The basic premise is a man hires a hitman to murder his cheating wife and lover, and man does everything go wrong. You think the film is going one way but then it completely changes direction in the blink of an eye.Its such a simple premise turned into an astonishingly entertaining and riveting thriller.Those Coen Brothers really are something else. I give it 4+,equivalent to an 8.5/10.

cricket
12-22-13, 12:53 AM
Seeking A Friend for the End of the World 4

I thought it was a beautiful film; funny, touching, thought provoking, and Scary. I never thought I liked Keira Knightley, but I loved her in this. Steve Carell was perfect.

Daniel M
12-22-13, 07:28 AM
It kind of reminds me of films like Blue Velvet and Eyes Wide Shut in a way.Naive main protagonist experiencing a hidden underbelly of society he wouldn't experience on the regular basis.

When I saw Eyes Wide Shut I thought about this film too, very similar in its dreamlike/surrealistic style in which a male protagonist travels between various odd places, some that can't be logically explained.
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Blood Simple is in few words absolutely brilliant. It is an absolutely incredible thriller, and one of the best directorial debuts I have ever seen. It is an assured,intelligent and perfectly calculated piece of filmmaking.The basic premise is a man hires a hitman to murder his cheating wife and lover, and man does everything go wrong. You think the film is going one way but then it completely changes direction in the blink of an eye.Its such a simple premise turned into an astonishingly entertaining and riveting thriller.Those Coen Brothers really are something else. I give it 4+,equivalent to an 8.5/10.

Saw this a couple of weeks ago too, a great little film I agree, although probably don't give it as high, I love the comedic elements to it, the last scene/line is hilarious :D

Arcanis
12-22-13, 11:31 AM
My sister and I showed my brother TRON, which he had somehow never seen. Despite the profoundly dated special effects, nothing about the movie fails to work. I am always surprised about how the movie visually looks just fine (even if TRON: Legacy showed us how much better it could look with modern special effects). Exciting, funny and very clever (especially as an alagory for religious persecution), it's always a fun watch. 7/10

Last night's Christmas fare was A Christmas Story, the second-beat Christmas comedy. Endlessly hilarious and intimitely relatable, it's high reputation is well earned. 9/10

Lucas
12-22-13, 12:57 PM
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The Good,The Bad,and The Ugly is a legendary western and what do i think of it? I think it's great. I started watching this at 2 AM last night and watched it all the way through with no problems. You just don't see movies like this anymore. The beautiful wide shots of deserts and large empty plains, the costumes and detail, the epic scale of the sets and locations. You feel so immersed inside the story's world, you can practically feel like you are there.The story is interesting for sure, but it does drag a bit in places. It's a very long film so thats to be expected, but there were scenes I thought could have been cut down or shortened however.The characters are extremely memorable though.Whether its the greedy Tuco, or the silent badas* "Man with no Name". It's definitely a Leone western I'll tell you that. Overall I give it a 4. I think its a great movie, but not quite a masterpiece.

Juror8
12-22-13, 02:39 PM
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Stagecoach

Pretty good western, if a little disappointing considering it's one of the westerns that supposedly defined the genre. I was never truly blown away or anything until the outstanding and mindblowingly good climax (especially for its time), and then the film takes another dive in quality with an excess twenty minutes of nothing. Either way, this is essential viewing for any fans of the genre, if only to see the beginning of one of the great duos in cinema, John Ford and John Wayne.

3.5/5

Mr Minio
12-22-13, 04:27 PM
I think its a great movie, but not quite a masterpiece. It's not quite a masterpiece, because it is A masterpiece.

Cobpyth
12-22-13, 04:33 PM
It's not quite a masterpiece, because it is A masterpiece.

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Gabrielle947
12-22-13, 04:36 PM
Good,Bad,Ugly was one of my first films that I saw when I really got interested in films and I liked it.I especially love the duel scene - so actionless yet so suspenseful.

bluedeed
12-22-13, 04:49 PM
Guys, there's a better western that you should be talking about directly below the one you're talking about now!

cricket
12-22-13, 05:11 PM
End of Days 7/10

Ridiculous but I still had fun with it.

The Rodent
12-22-13, 05:12 PM
Thought End Of Days was terrific fun.

Cheesy and complete garbage... but fun.

The Gunslinger45
12-22-13, 06:31 PM
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David O Russell is obviously a very good director. He especially seems to be an actors director, able to get the very best performance out of his cast. And when he has an A list cast, that means A list performances. Christian Bales, Amy Adams, Bradley Cooper, Jeremy Renner, Robert De Niro, and the lovely Jennifer Lawrence are all in top form. And probably going to be more then a few Oscar nods to follow. In addition to the cast, the cinematography is top notch. Very well shot, very nice camera movements, and captures the feel of the 70's.

The story on the other hand... it is good. Nothing great, but good. And that missing cog separates this from something along the lines of say Goodfellas, which is a classic and one of many Scorsese masterpieces. Maybe it is just me, I admit I am not a big David O Russell guy, and I did not care for Silver Lining Playbook. Another great cast and great performances, but not a fan. This, however, is certainly an upgrade from that movie.

I will admit I went in seeing this movie mostly because of the critical buzz and cast. Given what I saw from the trailers, I was not all that enthusiastic. But I do not regret seeing it. Bottom line: Good, but not great.

3.5

BlueLion
12-22-13, 07:23 PM
http://www.criticker.com/img/films/posters/Christmas_Vacation.jpg

National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation (1989) - 3

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A Christmas Story (1983) - 2.5

http://www.criticker.com/img/films/posters/Gremlins.jpg

Gremlins (1984) - 2.5

Daniel M
12-22-13, 07:24 PM
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3.5+

Really enjoyed it, a lot more than I thought I would as fans of the trilogy seem to like it least, I honestly think it was the best of the three.

nebbit
12-22-13, 11:11 PM
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3.5
Saw this last week and really liked it :yup:

cricket
12-22-13, 11:16 PM
Frankenfish 5/10

B movie that's not terrible but not quite good.

The Gunslinger45
12-22-13, 11:26 PM
Saw this last week and really liked it :yup:

Glad you liked it!

Guaporense
12-22-13, 11:29 PM
Guys, there's a better western that you should be talking about directly below the one you're talking about now!

I haven't watched it but the probability that someday I will like another western more than The Good, The Bad and The Ugly is rapidly approaching zero.

Pierce
12-23-13, 02:11 AM
I dunno if any of you have ever heard of the two movies I'm about to rate.. However, if you've seen them and don't like them.. don't burst my bubble XD - NO SPOILERS

1) Unconditional - 5/5 - I may lose my "man card" on this one, but that's okay cause this movie was fantastic. I am not easily emotionally moved by movies, but this one was a true tearjerker. Not a sappy love story, not an action-packed thriller. Based on a true story, would recommend this one to anyone.

2) Warrior - 5/5 - I may earn that "man card" back with this one. I was very shocked to see a UFC movie have 4.5 stars on Netflix, so I gave it a go. Little did I know I would love every single minute of it. Good, clean, raw energy is served up on a platter here. Not a single famous actor is in this movie and yet every actor does a superb job. A MUST see.

Both films make it into my top 10 - top 5 even - and I hope some of you enjoyed these movies too.

Lucas
12-23-13, 02:13 AM
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The Wizard of Oz is absolutely stunning from a visual standpoint. The sets,costumes,detail, and the lush,vivid technicolor makes the film come to life. I honestly am usually not impressed with CGI and current sfx cause you can tell it's not the real thing.This film is timeless, due to how well realized the world is.It's beautiful. The story is okay,and it works but what really draws you in is how simple it all is.A young girl wanting to escape from her boring life and go someplace new and adventurous.I don't love the film but it's at least a 3.5.It's a classic

BumbleBee
12-23-13, 02:49 AM
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9.5/10

Hilarious and a real privilege to see the original cast back together again.

the samoan lawyer
12-23-13, 05:12 AM
Unfortunately i didnt get round to watching The Conversation so i watched these instead.

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If.... - 7/10

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The Pledge - 7/10

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Halloween 2 (1981) - 7/10


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Porco Rosso - 8/10

ScarletLion
12-23-13, 05:22 AM
"The Place beyond the Pines". I'm a bit blown away with this movie. No idea it was going to be so good. Derek Cianfrance is some talented guy.

The whole interwoven dynamic and dysfunctional family rhetoric is done very well.

9/10

cricket
12-23-13, 09:26 AM
1) Unconditional - 5/5 - I may lose my "man card" on this one, but that's okay cause this movie was fantastic. I am not easily emotionally moved by movies, but this one was a true tearjerker. Not a sappy love story, not an action-packed thriller. Based on a true story, would recommend this one to anyone.

2) Warrior - 5/5 - I may earn that "man card" back with this one. I was very shocked to see a UFC movie have 4.5 stars on Netflix, so I gave it a go. Little did I know I would love every single minute of it. Good, clean, raw energy is served up on a platter here. Not a single famous actor is in this movie and yet every actor does a superb job. A MUST see.

Both films make it into my top 10 - top 5 even - and I hope some of you enjoyed these movies too.

I lost my man card watching Warrior; I loved it and was teary eyed the whole time. I wouldn't say there's no famous actors in it though; Tom Hardy and Nick Nolte are great and pretty famous.

I never heard of Unconditional before but just looked it up. It looks good so I put it on my to see list.

Arcanis
12-23-13, 11:20 AM
I was lucky enough to catch The Sound of Music as it was starting on tv last night. It's probably my favorite "classic" musical, probably because it focusses far more on singing than on dancing and is a lot more complex of a story than most other musicals of this period. The chase scene at the end is far more tense than I would have otherwise guessed this genre capable of. 8.5/10

Pierce
12-23-13, 01:26 PM
I lost my man card watching Warrior; I loved it and was teary eyed the whole time. I wouldn't say there's no famous actors in it though; Tom Hardy and Nick Nolte are great and pretty famous.

I never heard of Unconditional before but just looked it up. It looks good so I put it on my to see list.

Oh okay. I had never seen them before. Loved their performances though, Warrior is a fantastic movie.

Lucas
12-23-13, 01:56 PM
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Mud is a great film. Its a triumph for Matthew Mcconaughey, as he gives a mesmerizing performance as the kind-hearted convict Mud. I usually don't say this but the child actors were fantastic as well. All of the actors really held their own in telling a believable,compelling coming-of-age tale that never once felt melodramatic or even overly-sentimental like one would expect.I had alot of fun watching it, and I feel like I viewed a very good story.Entertaining,well-shot,well-acted, and filled with engaging storytelling Mud is a great film and earns no less than a 4 from me.Mcconaughey has made a huge turn-around with his career, a complete rejuvenation as an actor.

The Sci-Fi Slob
12-23-13, 02:17 PM
It's a Wonderful Life

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I watch it every Christmas. I thought I'd get it out of the way tonight, Ill be too drunk to watch it for the next few days.

8/10

Guaporense
12-23-13, 04:40 PM
Elysium
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65/100

Todd Trumpet
12-23-13, 06:01 PM
Sorry to say, the last movie I saw was a freebie on cable:

"BATTLESHIP".

I was curious to see just how bad it could be.

Bad. Very bad.

3/10 bad.

gugubee557
12-23-13, 06:21 PM
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Great addition to one of the world's most acclaimed series, although I didn't enjoy the beginning of the movie. I thought the actors and the special effects were great, though, and although the ending was really predictable, it remained perfect in my opinion.
4

Arcanis
12-23-13, 06:36 PM
I thought that Return of the Jedi was the only one of the trilogy where Lucas' later day add-ons were actually good. Seeing young Anakin's ghost was a really touching tribute to his development as a character: both his descent into darkness and his eventual redemption. I also liked how they cut to celebrations throughout the Galaxy (particularly Naboo), emphasizing the scope of the rebellion.

Lucas
12-23-13, 09:39 PM
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Before Midnight is an absolutely astounding film. Easily the finest film of 2013 that I've seen. A fantastic 3rd and possibly final entry into a great series,Before Midnight provides an intimate,realistic,heart-breaking and genuine look at relationships and love.The chemistry between Ethan Hawke and Julie Delpy is simply breathtaking.The preceding two chapters I thought were good films, but this one goes beyond that and is simply amazing.To any film lovers I highly recommend checking out this series, so eventually you can end up seeing 2013's best film. Before Midnight gets a 4.5.

cricket
12-23-13, 11:59 PM
Silver Bullet 3

I saw it a long time ago but didn't remember it. It's a decent 80's horror film. I tend to like anything with Gary Busey.

Juror8
12-24-13, 01:07 AM
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A Man Escaped

A brilliant slow-burn prison-break film that creates an incredible amount of suspense with the most minimal of resources. It's edge-of-your-seat stuff that finds complexity in simplicity, abandons even the slightest of sentimentality or cliches, and creates an almost hypnotic effect with its pacing. As far as I know Bresson intentionally chose nonprofessional and stiff actors to replicate the prisoners' almost dehumanized and mundane behavior so Francois Terrier was perfect but there's a strong yet subtle layer of humanity present. It did get a little too slow at times towards the middle sections personally but it really pays off once tension reaches its peak at the climax. I look forward to seeing more Bresson films.

4/5

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Drive

I'm at a loss for words right now to say the least, wow. Ryan Gosling is absolutely ice cool, probably one of the coolest characters in cinema since Jef Costello in Le Samourai. I was kept in a trance the whole time with its almost retro feel and it just oozes style and class. There are indeed short (and shocking) bursts of stylized violence that comes out of nowhere but I'd say marketing and expectations are probably the reason why this is such a polarizing film. I've seen Bronson by Refn before and I really liked it, but now I'm even more obliged to check out the rest of his work (and see what all the fuss about Only God Forgives is about).

4.5/5 (might go up to a full score if I think about it more)

Mmmm Donuts
12-24-13, 01:13 AM
Anyone who enjoyed Drive this much is good in my books. Fantastic film, I really need to watch it again. But there's so many other great films that I have yet to see, including Taxi Driver. :(

The Gunslinger45
12-24-13, 01:17 AM
Anyone who enjoyed Drive this much is good in my books. Fantastic film, I really need to watch it again. But there's so many other great films that I have yet to see, including Taxi Driver. :(


:mad::p

Mmmm Donuts
12-24-13, 01:22 AM
:mad::p

Yeah, yeah :D

WHo knows, maybe I'll go for it on Christmas Eve?

The Gunslinger45
12-24-13, 01:23 AM
Yeah, yeah :D

WHo knows, maybe I'll go for it on Christmas Eve?

That is your homework young man! :D

Arcanis
12-24-13, 01:43 AM
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I just finished watching Ain't Them Bodies Saints. There are some movies, like this or A History of Violence, where I'm not sure exactly what I'm supposed to walk away with after watching it. It seemed not so much to have a purpose as much as it was simply something that happened. Extremely well acted, directed and written, it was an impressive spectacle of artistry. I was particularly taken with the editing, whose elliptical cross-cuts were atrongly reminiscent of Drive's. It's definitely a high 8/10 (nearly an 8.5).

Lucas
12-24-13, 02:42 AM
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Carlito's Way is a flawed,but still solid gangster flick. It's not Pacino's best performance, and it's a bit heavy-handed but it's still interesting to watch. It isn't a game-changer but it works.Just a solid crime film. 3+.

Oh and Mmmm Donuts you need to watch Taxi Driver asap.Movie kicks some serious as*.

Pussy Galore
12-24-13, 03:05 AM
Bagdad Café (1987) 3 it was ok, but kind of forgettable.

Le Corbeau (1943) 3.5 +++ Really good film by Clouzeau. He's like the French Hitchcock. It's not as good as Les Diaboliques, but it's fantastic nonetheless. I enjoyed the way the doctor was seen as a criminal for helping womans to abort.

fuze931
12-24-13, 03:29 AM
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Hard Eight (1996) 3.5 I loved Philip Baker Hall in this film, very cool and collective. Can see this becoming a favorite of mine.

McConnaughay
12-24-13, 04:27 AM
The first Final Destination movie was kind-of atrocious, however, it had an intriguing concept that hadn't often been witnessed inside of a horror-movie. The idea that there's a pattern and method to death that isn't meant to be altered or deterred, and once that happens, death itself begins to attempt remedying its own mistake. The second movie carried the same intriguing premise, and even added little pieces to the movie that hadn't been seem before. However, it depended too heavily on the first movie, and did the impossible of making the first movie look great, by being ****** as ****.

BlueLion
12-24-13, 09:04 AM
http://www.criticker.com/img/films/posters/Arthur_Christmas.jpg

Arthur Christmas (2011) - 3.5

http://www.criticker.com/img/films/posters/The_Descendants.jpg

The Descendants (2011) - 3.5

cricket
12-24-13, 09:45 AM
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Carlito's Way is a flawed,but still solid gangster flick. It's not Pacino's best performance, and it's a bit heavy-handed but it's still interesting to watch. It isn't a game-changer but it works.Just a solid crime film. 3+.

Oh and Mmmm Donuts you need to watch Taxi Driver asap.Movie kicks some serious as*.

Glad you liked Carlito's way. I really liked Pacino in this; I thought it was a pretty subdued performance for him, and his was a very likable character. But my thought is that this was Sean Penn's movie.

Guaporense
12-24-13, 10:30 AM
I Live In Fear
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Ikimono_no_kiroku_poster.jpg/220px-Ikimono_no_kiroku_poster.jpg
Another Kurosawa winner 83/100.

Guaporense
12-24-13, 10:46 AM
Great addition to one of the world's most acclaimed series, although I didn't enjoy the beginning of the movie. I thought the actors and the special effects were great, though, and although the ending was really predictable, it remained perfect in my opinion.
4

I think it's much weaker than the first two but the massive space battles make up for it. A fitting conclusion to the greatest trilogy ever*.

*Best trilogies:
1 - Star Wars
2 - The Human Condition
3 - LOTR
4 - Godfather
5 - Apu

Haven't watched the third PMMM movie though. :p

Skepsis93
12-24-13, 11:13 AM
Au Revoir Les Enfants (Louis Malle, 1987) 4.5-
Comments in my next movie tab.

bluedeed
12-24-13, 11:16 AM
Haven't watched the third PMMM movie though. :p

I wonder how many people have actually watched this being one of the hardest lobbied movies on the forum.

Guaporense
12-24-13, 11:33 AM
I wonder how many people have actually watched this being one of the hardest lobbied movies on the forum.

Maybe not in this forum but it's actually very popular and considered a masterpiece by anybody who understands anything about animation. Although the third one is a cash grab sequel from the originals (not very different from Return of the Jedi).

The people in this forum have a very low nerd level if compared to the average internet forum. Even in a history forum that I frequent there are people who watched it. The only people here who watched it is me, Jal90 who joined because of me and another guy who watched because of my recommendation.

Arcanis
12-24-13, 11:44 AM
Maybe not in this forum but it's actually very popular and considered a masterpiece by anybody who understands anything about animation. Although the third one is a cash grab sequel from the originals (not very different from Return of the Jedi).

The people in this forum have a very low nerd level if compared to the average internet forum. Even in a history forum that I frequent there are people who watched it. The only people here who watched it is me, Jal90 who joined because of me and another guy who watched because of my recommendation.

I have a friend who basically acts as an anime filter for me. I let him wade through all the dreck and take his recommendations as gold (which is how I ended up watching both Code Geass and Elfin Lied and how I am working through Blood+ and This Ugly Yet Beautiful World). He finished Puella Magi Madoka Magica the other week and was raving about it (giving it a perfect 5/5 rating).

Guaporense
12-24-13, 11:46 AM
Of course. :D I personally found it to be like 10 times superior than any other non-Ghibli anime I ever watched.

bluedeed
12-24-13, 11:55 AM
The people in this forum have a very low nerd level if compared to the average internet forum. Even in a history forum that I frequent there are people who watched it. The only people here who watched it is me, Jal90 who joined because of me and another guy who watched because of my recommendation.

Well, there certainly are a deficit of people who watch animation with any frequency, and I among them. In my own case, I have too many gaps in my knowledge of film and film history to explore at the moment for me to watch anything serially. This could be taken as an affront on animation as well, implying its lack of significance of animation in the history of cinema, which you're certainly allowed to get mad about. However, I am truly sorry if this forum lacks enough nerdiness for you, but I don't really see it. From what I've seen, there are nerdier sites (I joined MUBI recently, which is definitely nerdier), but certainly there are a good deal of people on the forum with years and years of film knowledge and interest.

Guaporense
12-24-13, 12:34 PM
Nerdy I mean not only knowledgeable about film in general but about nerdy things such as Star Trek. (such as this guy: http://www.sfdebris.com/, notice that he reviewed the whole PMMM in the site) People here like more conventional stuff on average rather than sci fi and related nerdy interests.

And PMMM tv version is only 5 hours long, not much larger than many movies. It's not like The Sopranos or Breaking Bad which lasts for over 50 hours. So the cost of watching it is not that high if compared to the usual TV series.

Juror8
12-24-13, 04:55 PM
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North by Northwest

Solid entertainment and one of Hitchcock's most exciting films I've seen yet. Some gorgeous cinematography (especially in the scene shown above; it looked amazing on blu-ray) and almost unbearably suspenseful at times. I didn't think Hitchcock would be able to pull off an action-thriller that would stand the test of time this well but wow, this has aged like fine wine, with perhaps the slight exception of the climax. Cary Grant has the perfect amount of comic and charm, and I can't help but think that Eva Marie Saint's role should've been given to Grace Kelly, but it was still great. It felt pretty uneven at times and the plot didn't always work for me but it flew by and it was a lot of fun.

4/5

loki.
12-24-13, 05:39 PM
Medea. [Pasolini]. 1/10.
It was terrible :sick:

mojofilter
12-24-13, 06:53 PM
Saving Mr. Banks

9/10

Amazing performance by Emma Thompson. I predict an Oscar nod and win for her.

gugubee557
12-24-13, 06:56 PM
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Gorgeous movie. The visuals are simply amazing, the actors and the scenario, although simple, is perfectly used.
4.5

Lucas
12-24-13, 06:58 PM
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Gorgeous movie. The visuals are simply amazing, the actors and the scenario, although simple, is perfectly used.
4.5

Glad you liked it. I think it's one of the most underrated films of the last 10 years. Worth watching,if not for the gorgeous visuals alone.

The Gunslinger45
12-24-13, 07:08 PM
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Ever seen a grown man cry in a movie theater before? Well ya would have today if ya went and saw this with me at the local theater. I cry every time I see this movie! As soon as George Bailey starts running through the streets at the end of the movie, the tears start running down my cheeks.

I am on record as saying Stalker is the best movie I have seen from the standpoint of art. And I stand by that claim. But if ya ask me what I think the best movie ever made is in the more traditional sense of story, characters, etc, this is my pick for the best movie ever made. By Frank Capra himself.

5

Also I saw a film today where Frank Capra's son served as executive producer. And it just so happens to be one of my top ten favorite movies. And boy is it different from what dad did.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/76/Vice_Squad_%28film%29.jpg

Still great though!

5

honeykid
12-24-13, 07:44 PM
Amazing performance by Emma Thompson. I predict an Oscar nod and win for her.
Over Cate Blanchett? I'm not saying you're wrong, I've seen neither film, but I think most have already given Cate the statue.

fuze931
12-24-13, 09:07 PM
Finally checked out Boogie Nights! A great film and definitely worth my time. 4.5

Miss Vicky
12-24-13, 09:12 PM
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Gorgeous movie. The visuals are simply amazing, the actors and the scenario, although simple, is perfectly used.
4.5


Great movie! Have you seen The Cell? Same director, breathtaking visuals. I recommend it.

cricket
12-24-13, 11:22 PM
No One Lives 5.5/10

The first 20 minutes or so were good, and I liked the early twist. Unfortunately, everything after the twist was just ok.

Cobpyth
12-24-13, 11:24 PM
The Cotton Club (1984)

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Excellent film!
The Cotton Club is a wonderful tribute to the troubled, but oh so classy and alluring times of the early 1930s. It has a sad tone and it portrays dramatic themes, but thanks to the jazzy atmosphere, the movie always stays light-weight in a certain way.
Narrative-wise it isn't the most cohesive or clever thing you'll ever see and it may not have the towering quality of The Godfather, but don't let that hold you away from watching this gorgeous looking film before submitting your '80s list. It has definitely become a contender for my list. I will have to make some hard choices in january...

I'll talk about this film a little bit longer in my review topic and give my definite rating in a few days, but I just wanted to make you aware that if this looks like your kind of movie, you may want to see this before sending in your '80s list. ;)

Cobpyth
12-24-13, 11:34 PM
Saving Mr. Banks

9/10

Amazing performance by Emma Thompson. I predict an Oscar nod and win for her.

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The Gunslinger45
12-24-13, 11:38 PM
Nod sure. Win? IDK there.

The Rodent
12-25-13, 02:21 PM
Toy Story 3

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/69/Toy_Story_3_poster.jpg

Great story to it. Toy Story had Sid... Toy Story 2 had a deranged collector... this one has evil toys and a Great Escape element to it... awesome film.

Barbie tearing up Ken's clothes to get information was funny...

Spanish Buzz Lightyear was hilarious...

But Mr Potato Head turning himself into Mr Tortilla Head is possibly THE funniest thing I have ever seen put into animation.


555

Mmmm Donuts
12-25-13, 03:21 PM
Awesome, glad you enjoyed it! I was also thinking about watching it around this time, it just seems like the right mood. Maybe I will tonight...

fuze931
12-25-13, 03:46 PM
Been trying to watch all six P.T. Anderson films, so I finally got a chance to watch Magnolia. Great film, although I think it will take another viewing to give it my final rating. upon first viewing, I would give it a solid 4++

fuze931
12-25-13, 03:48 PM
Right now, I would rank his films this way...

Magnolia-4++
Boogie Nights-4.5
Hard Eight-3.5

fuze931
12-25-13, 03:53 PM
Have seen both Punch Drunk Love and There Will Be Blood, but I want to revisit them. Only one I have yet to see is The Master.

Mmmm Donuts
12-25-13, 04:28 PM
Reservoir Dogs

http://www.massappealdesigns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/misc_posters_minimalist_reservoir_dogs.jpg

9.5/10

Pussy Galore
12-25-13, 04:59 PM
Stranger than Paradise 3 there was some good parts, but the movie is about nothing there's nothing about it.

North by Northwest 5 It was my 2nd viewing and it was even better than I remember I loved it !!!

Lucas
12-25-13, 05:38 PM
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3.5+. Three Colors:Blue is a good film.

cricket
12-25-13, 07:29 PM
Prisoners 8.5/10

As good as I hoped; gripping from start to finish. It still left me wanting more and I mean that as a compliment.

Guaporense
12-25-13, 07:47 PM
Awesome, glad you enjoyed it! I was also thinking about watching it around this time, it just seems like the right mood. Maybe I will tonight...

I personally found Toy Story 3 to be a quite average movie with it's cliche characterization, storytelling techniques and lack of subtlety. It's very well executed though but overall it's nothing more than just another decent movie.

thracian dawg
12-25-13, 08:13 PM
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Always ... but not forever (1985) - Jaglom - 4

A mediation on marital bliss with three couples. The youngest couple (Melissa Leo's first screen role) may or may not be getting married; another older couple may or may not be getting divorced; and the central marriage is over. But when she comes over to sign their divorce papers, the notary notices there's still a lot of affection between the two of them and gives them the (fourth of july) weekend to really think it over. Although I understand this will be like Kryptonite for the average movie goer. I just loved the aesthetics of this, the camera work is almost like a disinterested observer. The tale unfurls, unhurried and uneventful, which kind of matches the ex-husband's desire to savor and prolong this weekend.

mojofilter
12-25-13, 08:27 PM
Over Cate Blanchett? I'm not saying you're wrong, I've seen neither film, but I think most have already given Cate the statue.

Haven't seen Blue Jasmine yet.

I believe Cate Blanchett is one of the most gifted actresses of our time. She's like a young Meryl Streep.

I guess the Oscar win will be a strong competition between her and Thompson, with many people favoring Blanchett for sure.

mojofilter
12-25-13, 08:28 PM
:D

You're hilarious!


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mojofilter
12-25-13, 08:35 PM
American Hustle

9/10

Outstanding all-star cast ensemble. Brilliant performances, most notably by Christian Bale, Jennifer Lawrence, Bradley Cooper, and Amy Adams.

I predict Oscar nominations for the actors mentioned above, as well as an Oscar nod for Best Picture, and a win for screenwriter/director David Russell.

Mmmm Donuts
12-25-13, 09:15 PM
I personally found Toy Story 3 to be a quite average movie with it's cliche characterization, storytelling techniques and lack of subtlety. It's very well executed though but overall it's nothing more than just another decent movie.

Yeah, I'm aware. :D I actually replied to a similar thing you said in somebody's top 100 list.

All I'll say is that if you compare much of the modern animated films coming out today (That stupid turkey movie for instance) with Toy Story 3, Toy Story 3 beats them 9 times out of 10.

Voigan
12-25-13, 09:34 PM
Olympus has Fallen
6.5/10

It's no Die Hard or Terminator 2 but it's still pretty good.

McConnaughay
12-25-13, 09:39 PM
I was originally going to save posting this until later whenever I had finished seeing the fourth movie, but I watched the first three movies in the Indiana Jones series.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f6/Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark_IMAX_re-release_poster.jpg/220px-Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark_IMAX_re-release_poster.jpg

The Raiders of the Lost Ark is often esteemed as being the best movie in the Indiana Jones movies, however, I can tell you ahead of time that I don't agree with that assessment. In-fact, after seeing it, I wouldn't even go as far as calling it a good movie. Prepare for war, McConnaughay's about to speak negatively about the Raiders of the Lost Ark. I appreciate everything that Indiana Jones did for entertainment in-general, without Indiana Jones, there wouldn't have been a Prince of Persia, Tomb Raider, or even an Uncharted, and some of the moments that happen in the first movie are some of the biggest scenes in history.

However, that doesn't change the fact that the dialogue was written in such a way that most of the movie was spent laughing for all of the wrong reasons. It wasn't a bad movie, but I can't fully proclaim it as a good one. I found that the movie dragged incredibly, and I found myself checking the watch that I wasn't wearing several times because of how tired I was with the story. The music was tedious too, in that, the theme seemed to repeat over and over again in a monotonous loop whether there was reason for it at all.

There was a couple of funny moments that I particularly enjoyed, and moments of self-awareness, but I was very disappointed. The story had potential, and Harrison Ford is a very capable actor, but the movie itself was boring, poorly written, and I am giving it a 6.0 out of 10.0.

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After seeing the first movie, I was beginning to believe the series wasn't going to be able to live up to the hype that I always made for it in my head. In the very first couple of minutes in this movie, I realized how much better everything was. Harrison Ford was more comfortable in his role as Indiana Jones, and they seemed like they had a better handle on what they were doing. The Chinese boy, that's name escapes me, was annoying, but I even found myself liking him by the end of the movie. The movie was more like what I was expecting with the Indiana Jones series, and I felt like I was on an adventure. 7.5/10.0

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fc/Indiana_Jones_and_the_Last_Crusade_A.jpg/220px-Indiana_Jones_and_the_Last_Crusade_A.jpg

This was, to me, without a doubt, the magnum opus of the Indiana Jones franchise because everything that I believed was poorly done in the previous installments was fixed in The Last Crusade. There was an uncanny cheesiness to the first two Indiana Jones movies that made it hard for me to appreciate, especially with the delivery, butu this movie, it wasn't ****ing around, but a focused Steven Spielberg, hellbent on making a classic. The monotony from the music was toned down considerably, and more importantly, we were given some much needed development to the Indiana Jones character. I was at the edge of my seat from beginning to end with this movie, it was an adventure that was funny, witty, and engaging almost every second of the way. I actually got kind-of excited whenever I saw Sean Connery and Harrison Ford first meet because it has been documented that the reason Steven Spielberg chose to do Indiana Jones was because he couldn't do James Bond.

Amazing movie, Sean Connery was great, Harrison Ford was extraordinary, the story, just everything, a damn-near perfect movie. I can't say enough, I loved it! 8.7/10.0

Lucas
12-25-13, 09:43 PM
http://lovely-pics.com/data/media/26/indiana_jones_and_the_temple_of_doom__1984__harrison_ford.jpg

Temple of Doom is just plain,good ol' fashioned fun. Man I had a blast with it, I'm not sure if its as good as Raiders of the Lost Ark but its close. I kinda get why this film is the least revered of the trilogy. It is much darker, it has graphic violence and there are numerous sexual innuendos. I dont have a problem with this whatsoever, but I get some might be turned off by this. Either way I give it a 3.5+,Maybe even a 4. Man the 80's had some bombastic films!

mark f
12-25-13, 09:55 PM
Bombastic is derogatory. I thought Temple of Doom was Da Bombtastic. :)

Voigan
12-25-13, 09:56 PM
My biggest problem with Temple is Willie. Great Cthulhu is she annoying. :furiousdevil: I haven't seen Raiders in ages but Willie alone is enough to make Temple of Doom the weakest of the series for me.

The Gunslinger45
12-25-13, 10:00 PM
It is on the other hand my favorite of the series! :D

Cobpyth
12-25-13, 10:34 PM
It is on the other hand my favorite of the series! :D

Same here. Although I want to see Raiders and Temple right after eachother in the not too faraway future just to be sure. They are both just INCREDIBLY entertaining!


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The Thing (1982)

http://www.themoviebuff.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/thing1.jpg

VERY solid and effective sci-fi thriller with some remarkable special effects.
I will talk about it a little more in my review topic in a few days.

Guaporense
12-26-13, 01:44 AM
All I'll say is that if you compare much of the modern animated films coming out today (That stupid turkey movie for instance) with Toy Story 3, Toy Story 3 beats them 9 times out of 10.

The one eyed in the land of the blind is king. The competition facing Pixar's output such as Toy Story 3 consists of very weak movies overall and contribute to the lack of respect that animation gets among US and Western film buffs and critics in general. Never in history I think that an US animation studio produced a commercial animated film that was made in mind as a serious and complex work of art, instead they always are commercially engineered family friendly mediocre slapstick comedies*. Even Wall-E, Ratatouille and Up, the best feature length American animations ever produced, suffer from their commercial family friendly low brown comedy nature. A US animation studio would never have the guts to make a serious attempts at artistic greatness like Haibane Renmei (in any format, either TV, film or direct to video). In Europe the situation is the same, a short like Tale of Tales was only possible because it was the work of a single man and his wife, it wasn't commercially viable. Yuri Norstein work still suffers from severe limitations common in western animation: no attempt at complex plots, no character development, animals as main characters, no depictions of violence and sex, very limited dialogue, etc. That's because even he tries to make his work family friendly and he suffers from the bad influence of other western animation. Stuff like Haibane Renmei only exists inside a small East Asian island (and in fact, I never though stuff like that could have existed a few years ago).

*One might argue that live action films aren't made as serious works of art, I would argue that while it's true for 90% of Hollywood films it is not true for 10%. In Hollywood animation, it's true for 100%.

Mmmm Donuts
12-26-13, 02:07 AM
Well yes, those are family films, they're supposed to appeal to all ages. But the difference with Toy Story 3 is that it respects it's audience, the young ones in particular. It doesn't spoon feed it's message to them, rather it forces them to think about it on their own.

Like I said before, the furnace scene was incredibly powerful and deep for an animated film. Have you forgotten that part? Death is not a common theme that family films want to throw out there, and only some of the best have the guts to do it. WHat about the existential approach that all 3 films have portrayed? It's quite deep, especially considering these toys relate to us in many ways.

EDIT: I haven't watched the films you talked about, so I can't comment on them.

McConnaughay
12-26-13, 02:07 AM
The one eyed in the land of the blind is king. The competition facing Pixar's output such as Toy Story 3 consists of very weak movies overall and contribute to the lack of respect that animation gets among US and Western film buffs and critics in general. Never in history I think that an US animation studio produced a commercial animated film that was made in mind as a serious and complex work of art, instead they always are commercially engineered family friendly mediocre slapstick comedies*. Even Wall-E, Ratatouille and Up, the best feature length American animations ever produced, suffer from their commercial family friendly low brown comedy nature. A US animation studio would never have the guts to make a serious attempts at artistic greatness like Haibane Renmei (in any format, either TV, film or direct to video). In Europe the situation is the same, a short like Tale of Tales was only possible because it was the work of a single man and his wife, it wasn't commercially viable. Yuri Norstein work still suffers from severe limitations common in western animation: no attempt at complex plots, no character development, animals as main characters, no depictions of violence and sex, very limited dialogue, etc. That's because even he tries to make his work family friendly and he suffers from the bad influence of other western animation. Stuff like Haibane Renmei only exists inside a small East Asian island (and in fact, I never though stuff like that could have existed a few years ago).

*One might argue that live action films aren't made as serious works of art, I would argue that while it's true for 90% of Hollywood films it is not true for 10%. In Hollywood animation, it's true for 100%.
I respectfully disagree with you.

Personally, I'm not a fan of hearing the term "Hollywood movie" thrown around so loosely, it's almost used as an excuse by some people not to give a movie its props or to get across an ulterior motive. A movie doesn't have to tackle profanity, or ****, it doesn't even have to tackle serious subject-matter at all whatsoever for it to be considered a work of art. The word "art" is subjective to the opinion, for example, five of my favorite foreign animated movies are Ponyo, Howl's Moving Castle, Spirited Away, Grave of Fireflies, and, hmm, maybe the Full Metal Alchemist movie or Castles in the Sky.

A dissection of all of these movies will find that only Grave of Fireflies has what I would call an "adult" theme to it. Spirited Away has elements of death in it, but isn't anymore vivacious or ambitious than A Nightmare Before Christmas. Spirited Away, Howl's Moving Castle, Castles in the Sky, and Ponyo are just as friendly, and that doesn't make them bad movies. That doesn't mean they lack character-development, that doesn't mean they're mediocre, there isn't one sure-fire way to make a movie. Maybe the problem isn't that they're commercialized smut, and maybe it's that you simply don't enjoy American animation? That's fine, I respect that, but Lion King, Finding Nemo, Toy Story (all three of them), Bug's Life, Brother Bear, Monster's Inc, Wall.E, and Up, all of them, I consider to be, in some way or another, works of art. I don't think it matters whether they're animals, or walking turds, as long as I think the story is well-constructed, and the characters feel intricately embroidered. Feed me my "commercial family-humor," because, personally, I find it to be very wholesome, artistic, creative, and genuine.

fuze931
12-26-13, 02:32 AM
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Punch Drunk Love-4++

This is one of my top 100 favorite movies because it shows how versatile Sandler can be. His performance is very personal to me because I know what it means to have rage kept inside and people hurt you and walk all over you for unknown reasons and I also am very socially awkward at times, as he is. This is probably my fifth or sixth time seeing it, and it just keeps growing on me. P.T. Anderson is becoming one of my favorite directors! Such a beautifully simple film that is very rewatchable for me.

Lucas
12-26-13, 02:34 AM
Punch Drunk Love-4++

This is one of my top 100 favorite movies because it shows how versatile Sandler can be. His performance is very personal to me because I know what it means to have rage kept inside and people hurt you and walk all over you for unknown reasons and I also am very socially awkward at times, as he is. This is probably my fifth or sixth time seeing it, and it just keeps growing on me. P.T. Anderson is becoming one of my favorite directors!

I agree completely. I adore Punch-Drunk Love, and I really wish Sandler attempted more roles like this as he can give a good performance if with the right script and director.

fuze931
12-26-13, 02:56 AM
I know! I honestly love seeing people go outside of the box with their performances. I heard Forte did a fantastic job in Nebraska, I need to check that out. I am about to rewatch There Will Be Blood. I believe it is very close to a 5 for me. 9.7/10 around that range upon first viewing around 8 months ago. Should be a blast (pun intended)!

McConnaughay
12-26-13, 03:07 AM
I haven't watched Punch-Drunk Love yet, which is bad because I love when Adam Sandler takes on more serious roles, Reign Over Me and Funny People both appear somewhere in my top one-hundred's list.

cricket
12-26-13, 07:19 AM
Borderland 6/10

Decent if you like these kind of films; if you don't, stay away. I do like the fact that it kept a serious and somewhat realistic tone throughout the film. Many films seem to not know what they want to be, and are lacking because of it.

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AF.
12-26-13, 08:36 AM
Kick-Ass 2

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Enjoyed this. I think I prefer it to the first, which I wasn't a huge fan of. Chloe Moeretz is going to be a great actress if she isn't already. Loved the action scenes in this movie. They really jump out and surprise you with how violent they are considering the general tone of the movie.

7.5/10

Guaporense
12-26-13, 02:50 PM
Some Like It Hot (1959)
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62/100

It's quite like white chicks but better (which isn't very hard). Did not feel any masterpiece vibes from it though. Still a competent comedy that did not appear to have aged very well given that I already knew all the jokes a long time ago from the millions of movies and TV series that copied it.

The Sci-Fi Slob
12-26-13, 04:34 PM
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The Thing (1982)

10/10


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Dredd (2012)

8/10

Mmmm Donuts
12-26-13, 06:31 PM
Dredd, pure adrenaline fueled fun.

Lucas
12-26-13, 07:58 PM
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4. Back to the Future Part 2 is just pure fun. Furiously entertaining.

Brother Blue
12-26-13, 08:04 PM
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4. Back to the Future Part 2 is just pure fun. Furiously entertaining.

Possibly my favourite of the trilogy.

Godoggo
12-26-13, 08:28 PM
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Punch Drunk Love-4++

This is one of my top 100 favorite movies because it shows how versatile Sandler can be. His performance is very personal to me because I know what it means to have rage kept inside and people hurt you and walk all over you for unknown reasons and I also am very socially awkward at times, as he is. This is probably my fifth or sixth time seeing it, and it just keeps growing on me. P.T. Anderson is becoming one of my favorite directors! Such a beautifully simple film that is very rewatchable for me.

Always love to hear Punch-Drunk Love get some praise. It's my favorite of Anderson's. I hope he eventually returns to something like this.

Pussy Galore
12-26-13, 10:02 PM
An American Werewolf in London 4 it was really, really, really good. Better than I expected ! It's like The Fly, but better ! the actress who plays the nurse is smoking hot

bluedeed
12-26-13, 10:08 PM
It's quite like white chicks but better (which isn't very hard). Did not feel any masterpiece vibes from it though. Still a competent comedy that did not appear to have aged very well given that I already knew all the jokes a long time ago from the millions of movies and TV series that copied it.

I get masterpiece vibes from all of your posts Guap.

McConnaughay
12-26-13, 10:22 PM
I have finally at last seen all four of the Indiana Jones movies, topping it off with Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. There was a lot of stigma regarding the movie that I didn't particularly agree with, I don't care if it has aliens, in-fact, I think it's kind-of cool. Then, there's the refrigerator scene, I actually thought it was funny in a stupid sort-of way.

Then, there's the rest of the movie. Jesus ****ing Christ, it has to be the stupidest movie that I've seen since Mortal Instruments in theaters. The pace of the movie was exactly what the pace of an Indiana Jones movie should be, but the story was pathetically constructed. The characters were lifeless and dead, it was a garbled mess thrown about for ***** and giggles with no intent on making a genuinely good movie. It sucked, it ****ing sucked, everything about it, it was cheesier than Raiders of the Lost Ark by eleven times, and didn't really have any redeeming qualities. Although, it did bring me nostalgia from when I watched the first Indiana Jones the day before, so there's that.

3.5/10.0

cricket
12-26-13, 11:45 PM
An American Werewolf in London 4 it was really, really, really good. Better than I expected ! It's like The Fly, but better ! the actress who plays the nurse is smoking hot

It's actually my favorite 80's movie; I saw it at the drive-in when it first came out.

fuze931
12-27-13, 12:55 AM
Blue is the Warmest Color-4.5

Third time seeing this great film and it get's better each time.

fuze931
12-27-13, 04:48 AM
The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938)-3.5

Checking out some of Ebert's list, I found this fun flick with some likeable characters and fun action, and one hell of a sword fight at the end! Solid movie.

Guaporense
12-27-13, 09:48 AM
I get masterpiece vibes from all of your posts Guap.

By masterpiece vibes I mean the feeling of sublime that some movies have. That one did not.

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76/100 (original score: 46/100 + 5 points for science fiction elements + 10 points for cuteness + 10 points for the guilty pleasure factor + 5 points for high level of color contrasts)

I will nominate this movie for the next MoFo Hall of Fame. It's just the complete package of otaku pop culture compressed in 130 minutes.

Skepsis93
12-27-13, 10:23 AM
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The Last Temptation of Christ (Martin Scorsese, 1988) 4-

bluedeed
12-27-13, 10:35 AM
I will nominate this movie for the next MoFo Hall of Fame. It's just the complete package of otaku pop culture compressed in 130 minutes.

A 46/100 movie for the hall of fame, quite a move,Guap, quite a move.

Potter08
12-27-13, 11:57 AM
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DEEP RED

One of the creepiest horrors I've seen in quite a while. The doll scene alone has scarred me for life. At first, it was difficult to adjust my expectations and get into Argento's distinct style, but once I acclimated, I couldn't turn away. The eccentric score only served to enhance the atmosphere. As for the story itself, I saw a few places where it could have been improved but overall it kept me interested, mostly due to the Agatha Christie mystery vibe the story was giving me.

8/10

Guaporense
12-27-13, 02:14 PM
A 46/100 movie for the hall of fame, quite a move,Guap, quite a move.

Some people sent a 0/100 movie.:D

Emoviegeek
12-27-13, 02:22 PM
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty

not quite as epic as implied by the trailer, but still enjoyed. Found myself near the end wondering if I would really rather not see the photo he spends the movie looking for (since imagination often is better), but in the end glad that they did show it. Loved that there was somewhat of a reference to Wheaton's law, Don't be a D*** when he finally stands up to the downsizing manager (Adam Scott character)

bluedeed
12-27-13, 02:48 PM
I'll submit a 0/1000000 movie

fuze931
12-27-13, 04:29 PM
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3

I think with a stronger third act this could've been a great film, but it still kept my interest well enough. Not a bad film at all.

thracian dawg
12-27-13, 05:12 PM
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The numbers station (2013) - Barfoed - 3.5

A no budget thriller that's held together with a little suspense (some silliness) and some small observational scenes that appear to ring true. Like when he does a cold reading of Katherine (Malin Akerman) and she's astonished how accurately he's summarized her life. He has to tell her that, to get into the intelligence business, you have to be brilliant, but if you're going to work in sensitive areas, you also have to flunk your psychopathy test. These defects are essential to manipulate you.

Pussy Galore
12-27-13, 08:16 PM
The last 2 movies I saw were actually really excellent.

The Wolf of Wall Street 53 A very, very, very good, funny Scorsese film it might be my second favorite of his behind Taxi Driver. It's been a while since I laughed that much when watching a film and even if it was 3 hour it was extremely entertaining. The only issue I find about it is that it almost banalise drug use and that the FBI agent should have made a speech about why is it bad to rip off people.

My Darling Clementine 52.5 Really good classic western the reason why I don't give it a 8 is because of the slight racism against the Indians at the beginning of the film

bluedeed
12-27-13, 08:21 PM
Why is it bad to rip people off?

Voigan
12-27-13, 08:23 PM
The Raiders of the Lost Ark is often esteemed as being the best movie in the Indiana Jones movies, however, I can tell you ahead of time that I don't agree with that assessment. In-fact, after seeing it, I wouldn't even go as far as calling it a good movie. Prepare for war, McConnaughay's about to speak negatively about the Raiders of the Lost Ark. I appreciate everything that Indiana Jones did for entertainment in-general, without Indiana Jones, there wouldn't have been a Prince of Persia, Tomb Raider, or even an Uncharted, and some of the moments that happen in the first movie are some of the biggest scenes in history.

However, that doesn't change the fact that the dialogue was written in such a way that most of the movie was spent laughing for all of the wrong reasons. It wasn't a bad movie, but I can't fully proclaim it as a good one. I found that the movie dragged incredibly, and I found myself checking the watch that I wasn't wearing several times because of how tired I was with the story. The music was tedious too, in that, the theme seemed to repeat over and over again in a monotonous loop whether there was reason for it at all.

There was a couple of funny moments that I particularly enjoyed, and moments of self-awareness, but I was very disappointed. The story had potential, and Harrison Ford is a very capable actor, but the movie itself was boring, poorly written, and I am giving it a 6.0 out of 10.0.
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I just watched Raiders today (mutters about Amazon's slow shipping) and I have to agree it's not all it's cracked up to be. It's far from bad but I wasn't blown away like I was the first time I saw T2 or the original Die Hard either. The biggest problem I had with the movie was how often it prioritized action scenes over developing the story or the characters. It's certainly not the only action movie to so but given how often Raiders shows up on best ever lists in the action/adventure genre I guess I was expecting a bit more. As impressive as the fight scenes are they really start to run together after a while whereas in movies like TDK, The Avengers, Gladiator ect. the audience is given some breathing room between sh*t getting blown up/sliced up. Raiders though is basically action scene>exposition>action scene>Marion drinking>action scene>action scene>chase scene>Indy drinking>exposition>chase scene>Nazi face melting>end.

mark f
12-27-13, 08:31 PM
"Now you're getting nasty." It's an homage to '30s serials but a hundred times better.

Lucas
12-27-13, 08:41 PM
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Batman-2.5+. It's not bad but its not that good either. For the good, i praise Jack Nicholson's performance as the Joker and the visual style Gotham City has. For the not so good, I think the movie is too goofy for it's own good and Keaton is a bland Batman.Again, it's solid superhero fare but nothing bigger and better than that though.

Mmmm Donuts
12-27-13, 08:44 PM
Agreed. I prefer Nolan's Batman series over the old ones, though Batman Returns was quite good.

BlueLion
12-27-13, 08:45 PM
Batman-2.5+. It's not bad but its not that good either. For the good, i praise Jack Nicholson's performance as the Joker and the visual style Gotham City has. For the not so good, I think the movie is too goofy for it's own good and Keaton is a bland Batman.Again, it's solid superhero fare but nothing bigger and better than that though.

Guy takes family through dark alley: "I know where I'm going". Pretty much sums up the movie in the first scene. I didn't mind its silliness though. :)

Cobpyth
12-27-13, 09:01 PM
The only issue I find about it is that it almost banalise drug use and that the FBI agent should have made a speech about why is it bad to rip off people.

Are you sure that you want every film about drugs and fraudulent practices become some kind of obvious moralizing lesson? That would be awfully repetitive, wouldn't it?

Sometimes it's stronger to let the audience draw its own conclusions.

Pussy Galore
12-27-13, 09:14 PM
Are you sure that you want every film about drugs and fraudulent practices become some kind of obvious moralizing lesson? That would be awfully repetitive, wouldn't it?

Sometimes it's stronger to let the audience draw its own conclusions.


Yeah, I see what you mean, but I just saw the potential to be a movie almost like Network that criticise society like a satire. I still loved the film !

mark f
12-27-13, 09:15 PM
Sometimes it's stronger to let the audience draw its own conclusions.
I agree but my students all thought Scarface was so cool because they wanted to be Tony Montana. They made up their own minds, such as they were.

Miss Vicky
12-27-13, 09:24 PM
The Wolf of Wall Street viewed to me like a celebration of excess. Yeah these guys were ripping people off, but they were getting rich off of duping rich people. They weren't violent. They were just a bunch of little boys with too much money having too much fun and we the audience get to have fun vicariously by watching the spectacle of it. I think any kind of preaching would have been very much out of place and would've taken me out of the movie.

I see it as very much being escapist cinema, and damn good escapist cinema.

Pussy Galore
12-27-13, 10:09 PM
Yeah, I can agree with that I just have a certain discuss toward drugs so this is my fault ^^

The Gunslinger45
12-27-13, 10:29 PM
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Batman-2.5+. It's not bad but its not that good either. For the good, i praise Jack Nicholson's performance as the Joker and the visual style Gotham City has. For the not so good, I think the movie is too goofy for it's own good and Keaton is a bland Batman.Again, it's solid superhero fare but nothing bigger and better than that though.

It is a very good film for those of use who were born in the 80's. Before that movie all I had were some old 70's cartoons, Adam West (who I still like by the way) and a few comics with the lines read by video cassettes. Then this movie came out and gave to us what was at the time a dark and serious Batman movie. Then again this was the days before Batman the Animated Series and the Nolan Batman movies. So someone who goes from Nolan to Burton, I admit will be left wanting more. But to us who saw Burton first, we still have a nostalgic love for it.

The Gunslinger45
12-27-13, 10:31 PM
I actually saw Wolf of Wall Street again today. Still laughed my ass off! I felt Marty earned another viewing. Probably going to wait until I can buy it on DVD to see it again. If I watch a comedy too many times the jokes become too familiar and loose the edge.

Cobpyth
12-27-13, 11:39 PM
An American Werewolf in London 4 it was really, really, really good. Better than I expected ! It's like The Fly, but better ! the actress who plays the nurse is smoking hot

Also just watched this.

Topic-wise it is like The Fly, but the atmosphere couldn't be further away from it. American Werewolf in London has a cooler, freshly comic way of dealing with things, while The Fly is more dramatic and shocking. I like them both very much, but in a different way. I would probably give it about the same rating as you gave it.

I also agree about the nurse. She was beyond charming.

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McConnaughay
12-28-13, 12:21 AM
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If there was ever a short-story, or entertainment medium that so eloquently summarized a lot of my thoughts, fears, and worries, it'd be the Secret Life of Walter. I remember whenever I first read it in high-school, and honestly, there's a lot of books that don't mean anything to me that you read in school. I don't care about To Kill a Mocking Bird, I respect it, but I think Atticus is extremely likable, but I don't think it's one of the greatest stories out-there. The Great Gatsby is decent, Romeo & Juliet is one of the best tales ever thought of, in my opinion, but it was written by one of the most irritating authors in history. (Poetic brilliance is real easy to fake when doth thy sentence no ****ing sense make.)

And really, it isn't a matter of how well-written they are, or what they teach you, but the Secret Life of Walter Mitty meant a lot to me. A tale about a guy whose life may not have gone the way he wanted, but he still dreams and yearns for something more. It's sad and kind-of beautiful, but I really related. I'm the type of person who is extremely spacey, eccentric, and bizarre, I have had social-anxiety my entire life, and really, I feel like I've missed out on a lot of great things as a result. It pisses me off, but I always imagined different, imagined what would have happened if I would have done this or this, and I hope for something more.

That's why I love the short-story, and when I found out about the movie, I was excited. I saw it was Ben Stiller. Ehh, .... No, I'm still excited! Negative critic reviews? Still excited.

I saw it. I loved it.

You can dissect a movie until it means nothing, you can throw around witty terms like commercialism or phoniness, or you can talk about symbolism, foreshadowing, or other literary terms, but those people can also go **** themselves, because an opinion is only worth the individual. There are movies we like, movies we don't like, and there are different reasons for all of them. The Secret Life of Walter Mitty was cheesy, spectacular, over-the-top, and there's a lot of things that I would have done differently. However, it's what they did right which made me like the movie, the cinematography was absolutely amazing, it's seriously some of the finest visuals around, but Ben Stiller plays his character with a certain charm that I appreciated. An awkwardness that remains awkward through and through, even when the time comes to be something, it doesn't unravel like an uncanny transformation, because there is no transformation, he finds a way to live life. A lot of people mocked it for being motivational, which isn't even a bad thing. I liked it. It was funny, over-the-top, but had heart, which were some of the main-elements in the short-story, and was what I related to.

Lucas
12-28-13, 12:37 AM
@McConnaughay, that was a great review man and I can definitely relate to what you are saying. Glad to hear that you really enjoyed the film, I'm definitely going to check it out later on as flawed as it might end up being.Cheers

cricket
12-28-13, 01:57 AM
Also just watched this.

Topic-wise it is like The Fly, but the atmosphere couldn't be further away from it. American Werewolf in London has a cooler, freshly comic way of dealing with things, while The Fly is more dramatic and shocking. I like them both very much, but in a different way. I would probably give it about the same rating as you gave it.

I also agree about the nurse. She was beyond charming.

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I've had the hots for that chick for years; probably my first celebrity crush; I was 10 when I saw it in 1981.

Lucas
12-28-13, 03:43 AM
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The Godfather Part 3-as imperfect The Godfather part 3 is I still think it is an absolutely incredible film and I am very happy that I finally watched it. I think its a brilliant conclusion to The Godfather saga.yes, sophia coppola's performance is bad, yes the film's plot is a bit convoluted...but i dont care.Its always extremely hard for the final part of a series to wrap everything up neatly and The Godfather 3 tries and succeeds.I can understand the criticism, but honestly it is a great film. 4+++

McConnaughay
12-28-13, 03:59 AM
Batman-2.5+. It's not bad but its not that good either. For the good, i praise Jack Nicholson's performance as the Joker and the visual style Gotham City has. For the not so good, I think the movie is too goofy for it's own good and Keaton is a bland Batman.Again, it's solid superhero fare but nothing bigger and better than that though.
As much as I enjoy Jack Nicholson, I thought that his performance in this movie, along with the story itself crippled the film. They ruined almost everything that I appreciated in the comic, and honestly, I feel like Jack Nicholson could have taken a little more liberties, because when he does, we usually get something special. Instead, it felt like he played a clown, and not The Joker. I liked Michael Keaton though, he seemed antisocial, which is Batman, he's quiet and mysterious not because he chooses to be, but because it seems to happen naturally. This isn't my way of justifying the lack of depth to the Batman character in the movies, in-fact, that's one of the terrible blasphemies in film. The first time that Batman demonstrated emotion in a movie was Batman Begins, vocally, I mean. He had emotion in The Dark Knight, but it was more symbolism, and facial-features. The best speech that I ever saw from Batman in an entertainment medium was in Batman: Arkham Origins for the PS3 and Xbox 360. Simply because he got pissed off, which isn't something you usually see.

Cenydd Ros
12-28-13, 05:18 AM
I went to see Hobbit II. It was long. Like Return of the King, it was just too much. Peter Jackson has no concept of Less is More. When I first saw Return of the King, in the theater, I fell asleep. I didn't do this in Hobbit II - but if I had, that would have been okay. A nap is okay in Hobbit II. I mean, fantastic production is one thing, but running on and on and so far from the source material - tiresome. :bored:

BlueLion
12-28-13, 08:11 AM
I thought I was the only one who felt that way about the nurse in American Werewolf. :D

ThatAndyGuy
12-28-13, 12:11 PM
Yesterday I saw both American History X and Candyman for the first time.

I thoroughly enjoyed American History X and thought it was a powerful story, although the only thing I would criticise is that a lot of the characters feel forgotten about as the film goes on and I felt the story was left somewhat incomplete because of this. Nevertheless, I liked it and would recommend you see it if you haven't already done so.

As for Candyman, I'd heard good things about this film and I know many people consider it a "classic' of its era. My personal opinion is that it is a very bland film. I thought there were a lot of plot holes and I have genuinely seen films meant for children that I've found more unnerving than this film. Now I am not one who just lists the negatives without backing it up with some possitive criticism, but I just didn't like this movie at all.

American History X - 7.5/10

Candyman - 2/10


Andy

mark f
12-28-13, 12:29 PM
I liked Candyman better than X but whatever. Belated welcome to the site. :)

ThatAndyGuy
12-28-13, 12:34 PM
Each to their own. And thanks :)

The Rodent
12-28-13, 06:31 PM
Disaster Movie

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Pretty apt title.


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Mmmm Donuts
12-28-13, 06:32 PM
Agreed Rodent. This movie was just bad, and not funny in any sense of the word.

The Rodent
12-28-13, 06:34 PM
Reminded me of Scary Movie 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 etc etc etc...

Just poop and fart gags, nut shots, and people pulling faces.

Godoggo
12-28-13, 06:36 PM
I liked Candyman better than X but whatever. Belated welcome to the site. :)

Ditto.

cricket
12-28-13, 07:24 PM
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5/10

Probably the most F'D up movie I've seen.

JayDee
12-28-13, 08:45 PM
Last film for me was actually a couple of days ago now. Went to the cinema to see The Secret Life of Walter Mitty. It was a nice little film and I liked it well enough but it just came up short of what I was hoping and perhaps expecting of it. It was well acted and directed, and featured some tremendous cinematography from Stuart Dryburgh. I thought the script hurt the film a lot though, struggling to balance the tone and throwing any subtlety out of the window when it came to the film's big message.

I think the film realy could have been Stiller's Truman Show. A great film that made people see him in a different light. While it may not have managed that in my eyes I admire the decent level of ambition on Stiller's behalf and he could be a director to watch in the coming years.

3 ++

If you'd like to see my full review you can read it here (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1006754)



You can dissect a movie until it means nothing, you can throw around witty terms like commercialism or phoniness, or you can talk about symbolism, foreshadowing, or other literary terms, but those people can also go **** themselves.

Though you may want to give it a miss. :p

Lucas
12-28-13, 09:55 PM
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Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade-4. Alot of fun and a perfect end to the Indiana Jones films. I don't consider KOTCS a film, so I could care less about that and the inevitable remakes/sequels that will happen. All three of these films are fun,adventurous and entertaining. Films that a child,teenager,or an adult can love.

honeykid
12-28-13, 10:11 PM
Someone slagging off Michael Keaton, Batman Returns being praised and people not seeing what all the fuss is about with Raiders. I really like these last couple of pages. :D

BTW, for those of you with a crush on Jenny Agutter, the two other films you need to see are Walkabout and Logan's Run. You can thank me later. :)

cricket
12-28-13, 11:00 PM
Sightseers 3/4

Nice British dark comedy

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dd/Sightseers_film_poster.jpg

The Gunslinger45
12-28-13, 11:10 PM
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A comedy classic

4

Pussy Galore
12-29-13, 03:05 AM
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4 excellent movie. It's my second Allen. The 1st one I saw was Annie Hall and I preferred this one by far. The Woody Allen character is reallt interesting specially when he realized that we should enjoy life while watching the marx brothers movie

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3 It was kind of entertaining, but kind of mediocre in my opinion. They should chose a latino actor rather than Pacino and Tony Montana is not that great of a character in my opinion

The Gunslinger45
12-29-13, 04:23 PM
I can't believe this was on Hulu... uncut even.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Cannibal_Holocaust_movie.jpg

If the goal of this film was to be f**ked up and disturbing… mission accomplished. And from a technical standpoint with the low grade film and the guerrilla style shooting, it made for a very effective film. And the practical effects for some of the mutilations were so good the filmmakers were called before a court charged with obscenity and murder. The director Deodato had to prove his actors were still alive. So from a technical stand point the film is fantastic. And while the film’s actors were not killed, many of the animals filmed were actually killed in the movie. In particular was the very graphic and very drawn out scene where they killed a large turtle. Was there a point to this in the film? No… no there wasn't. Why was it in the film? To be disturbing and shocking. Now I have no problems with killing animals if you are going to eat them. And in the film’s defense I do know that the two squirrel monkeys killed were eaten by the indigenous tribesmen, and the turtle was eaten as well. But when animal killing becomes a recurring event in your movie I think you need to rethink your subject matter. And any social commentary on modern society is lost on me given the fact that as I was watching the film I was too sickened by what was on screen. But then again that was the point of the movie. So like I said, mission accomplished.

I liked the first 50 minutes or so, but when they start viewing the recovered footage and we deal with four horrible human beings, the film quickly starts to become increasingly disturbing. And my interest goes with it.

2

The Gunslinger45
12-29-13, 05:28 PM
Dear Lord Hulu has all the disturbing flicks on today. And my third film after this one is not too much better.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8d/Henryportrait.jpg

Another disturbing flick. While Cannibal Holocaust was very exploitative and explicit in it's execution, this one had very disturbing atmosphere which made this film far more effective. Also no needless animal killings. Only the actor's characters get killed. Always a plus.

3

Mr Minio
12-29-13, 05:43 PM
I liked the first 50 minutes or so, but when they start viewing the recovered footage and we deal with four horrible human beings, the film quickly starts to become increasingly disturbing. And my interest goes with it.

Cool trivia:

After seeing the film, director Sergio Leone wrote a letter to Ruggero Deodato, which stated, "Dear Ruggero, what a movie! The second part is a masterpiece of cinematographic realism, but everything seems so real that I think you will get in trouble with all the world."

The Gunslinger45
12-29-13, 06:00 PM
Cool trivia:

After seeing the film, director Sergio Leone wrote a letter to Ruggero Deodato, which stated, "Dear Ruggero, what a movie! The second part is a masterpiece of cinematographic realism, but everything seems so real that I think you will get in trouble with all the world."

And he did in France! Foreshadowing!

The Gunslinger45
12-29-13, 07:10 PM
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Another pretty disturbing movie. But I like this one the best of the three. Christian Bale is excellent as Patrick Bateman. The world he lives in is incredibly superficial, and apparently people in this world are so shallow they forget who the hell the are meeting and easily mistaken each other for other people. Horror's of conformity it seems.

3.5

Mmmm Donuts
12-29-13, 07:12 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/63/Americanpsychoposter.jpg

Another pretty disturbing movie. But I like this one the best of the three.
3.5

I would certainly hope so. :D

Don't just stare at it, eat it.

mark f
12-29-13, 07:14 PM
I think Henry's better, but so what? :)

Skepsis93
12-29-13, 07:18 PM
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I was lucky enough to see Fantasia tonight under pretty unusual circumstances - with a live score, by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. A really unique experience and a visually gorgeous, often very moving film to boot. Hadn't seen it since I was small and this was superb way to rewatch it.

The Gunslinger45
12-29-13, 07:21 PM
I would certainly hope so. :D

Don't just stare at it, eat it.

That scene was more then a little unsettling.

The Sci-Fi Slob
12-29-13, 08:24 PM
Well, I started watching "Looper" tonight but lost interest and had to turn it off after an hour. It was like a Philip K Dick adaptation, if he'd written the book after switching from LSD to Heroin.:(. I'll try to complete it tomorrow.

Daniel M
12-29-13, 08:26 PM
I was lucky enough to see Fantasia tonight under pretty unusual circumstances - with a live score, by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. A really unique experience and a visually gorgeous, often very moving film to boot. Hadn't seen it since I was small and this was superb way to rewatch it.

Fantasia was f*cking awesome as a kid, sounds great man :D

Lucas
12-29-13, 09:45 PM
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Back to the Future Part III-3.5. Fun conclusion to the trilogy but not as fresh as the first two.Still damn good entertainment though.

Lucas
12-29-13, 09:57 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/63/Americanpsychoposter.jpg

Another pretty disturbing movie. But I like this one the best of the three. Christian Bale is excellent as Patrick Bateman. The world he lives in is incredibly superficial, and apparently people in this world are so shallow they forget who the hell the are meeting and easily mistaken each other for other people. Horror's of conformity it seems.

3.5

What a fantastic dark comedy. Easily,easily Christian Bale's best performance yet.

The Gunslinger45
12-29-13, 09:59 PM
What a fantastic dark comedy. Easily,easily Christian Bale's best performance yet.

I have to agree.

Juror8
12-29-13, 11:13 PM
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Joe Kidd

Nice surprise of a western, especially going in with pretty much zero expectations from such a mediocre reputation. The story was brutally straightforward and thin while also lacking the necessary emotional lift to even care about what's actually going on and the film manages to drag despite a brief run time of only ninety minutes, but it was definitely some mighty entertainment. The scenery was beautiful as well (check out the picture above) and it was a perfect touch. It was only until afterwards where I realized the missed opportunity that the film actually was- directed by John Sturges, written by Elmore Leonard, starring Clint Eastwood and Robert Duvall, and scored by Lalo Schifrin- but of course that would've never ended up as good as it sounded on paper. Joe Kidd really does fall towards the back of the pack of Eastwood's line of westerns and it's hardly something that you can sink into and talk about for days, but it's a very fine way to spend a lazy ninety minutes with.

3.5/5

RepentantSky
12-30-13, 12:25 AM
The last one I saw was an oldie but a goody. It was Kiki's Delivery Service, as it was something I got for Christmas. It's an honestly fantastic film. The visuals are great, the story is at the very least, acceptable and the characters are likable. I really enjoy seeing the influences from Swedish cites Stockholm and Visby being mixed into the film's own city making for a unique but also believable city design. Regardless of if you watch the American dubbed version, the original Japanese, or in an entirely different language the voice acting is great and really makes the characters believable (although it's one those rare moments where I prefer the English dub myself). Since it is 25 years old, I imagine most everyone who's going to see it has, so there's no point in making a really detailed review. I give it a 4.8/5.

honeykid
12-30-13, 12:48 AM
I think Henry's better, but so what? :)

You're right, mark. It is better. In fact, it's much better. It's up there with Blue Velvet as the most disturbing and unsettling film I've ever seen.

Mmmm Donuts
12-30-13, 01:25 AM
You're right, mark. It is better. In fact, it's much better. It's up there with Blue Velvet as the most disturbing and unsettling film I've ever seen.

What in the world is that? I can't even find that movie, I just typed in "Henry's".

honeykid
12-30-13, 01:34 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8d/Henryportrait.jpg/215px-Henryportrait.jpg
Henry: Portrait Of A Serial Killer

Mmmm Donuts
12-30-13, 01:37 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8d/Henryportrait.jpg/215px-Henryportrait.jpg
Henry: Portrait Of A Serial Killer

Christ, just by reading IMDB's parental advisory, I can tell this movie is most likely 100 times more disturbing than American Psycho. To be fair though, Psycho probably has a different message behind it than Henry.

Pussy Galore
12-30-13, 03:24 AM
The Wrong Man 4 Hitchcock did it again. It's actually the less good Hitchcock I've seen yet, but is nonetheless a freaking great movie. I didn't thought Hitchcock would be as succesfull making a movie about something that actually happened, but the master of suspense did it again it's a great film.

nebbit
12-30-13, 06:12 AM
Well, I started watching "Looper" tonight but lost interest and had to turn it off after an hour. It was like a Philip K Dick adaptation, if he'd written the book after switching from LSD to Heroin.:(. I'll try to complete it tomorrow.
The first time I watched it I was a :bored: but a few watches I quite enjoy it :)

Plan B
12-30-13, 06:22 AM
Christmas Vacation (1989)

3.5

http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Christmas-Vacation-1989-poster.jpg

The Rodent
12-30-13, 06:40 AM
Bridge To Terabithia

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bd/Bridgetoterabithiaposter.jpg


First two acts based around coming of age and a budding kinship between two 10 year olds who create a fantasy world, using a tree house they find in a nearby wood... pretty touching and well pieced together and the character development works a treat.

The third act hit me in the face like a brick though. Immensely heart-breaking and incredibly moving but also manages to be uplifting.

I was in bits in the last act.

5++

McConnaughay
12-30-13, 08:10 AM
Bridge To Terabithia


First two acts based around coming of age and a budding kinship between two 10 year olds who create a fantasy world, using a tree house they find in a nearby wood... pretty touching and well pieced together and the character development works a treat.

The third act hit me in the face like a brick though. Immensely heart-breaking and incredibly moving but also manages to be uplifting.

I was in bits in the last act.

5++
Damn, bro, I haven't seen the movie since I was like eleven, and while I don't remember anything negative, I don't remember it being THAT good. Maybe I'll have to give it a second watch sometime.

Arcanis
12-30-13, 04:20 PM
The Impossible, which turned out to be sadly very average (I had higher hopes for this movie). It was well-enough acted, well-enough directed, well-enough written... but just lacked that umph to push it over the edge into "good." 6.5/10

Lucas
12-30-13, 06:02 PM
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American Hustle.
American Hustle is not a good film...it's a great film. Coming into this movie I had some high expectations, due to how well received it is.And for the most part it delivers in spades.For one,I have to say that this movie is entertaining from start to finish. One of the funnest movies i've seen all year. The performances are stellar, and I have to praise the performances of Bale,Renner,Adams, and Cooper.This movie has a large cast of great actors and they all do an excellent job in their roles. The dialogue is great, and there are numerous scenes that genuinely made me laugh.The direction is incredible, with lush cinematography,great attention to detail and a killer 70's soundtrack. The story is damn good as well, it isn't perfect but its good.This is a film mostly about the characters, and damn are they entertaining. Overall American Hustle is just great, its easily in my 5 favorite films of 2013. It earns a 4 from me.

Mmmm Donuts
12-30-13, 06:16 PM
Taxi Driver

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This is a brilliant film. I don't know where to begin with this one. The atmosphere of the whole movie is perfect. It's very dark and gloomy, giving rise to tension whenever it goes to night, where the city's worst come out to play. The music is generally quite peaceful throughout, but adds a sinister twist at the end. De Niro's performance is legendary, to say the least. I love when actors can tell a story with their eyes alone, and this guy nails it. Scorsese does a great job with the camera angles, giving a point of view on what our taxi driver friend sees as he travels through the city. The buildup to he climax is slow, and well thought out, leaving hints about what goes on in Travis's head.

As for the ending, it really left me thinking about things long after it was over. I was just lying in bed, trying to make sense of what just happened. Great stuff. All in all, this is nothing short of a masterpiece in my eyes, and the comparisons between it and Drive are apparent, another film that I love. But Taxi Driver really is one of a kind, and Scorsese has once again proved what a truly special director he is.

10/10

Lucas
12-30-13, 06:29 PM
Nice Review Donuts, I really feel like watching Taxi Driver again. What a fantastic movie by the great Scorsese.

The Gunslinger45
12-30-13, 06:36 PM
You have done well! :D Glad you loved the movie!

bluedeed
12-30-13, 06:40 PM
If you liked Taxi Driver, you should definitely watch PMMM film version!

Mr Minio
12-30-13, 07:13 PM
If you liked Taxi Driver, you should definitely watch PMMM film version!

What? Did Guap steal bluedeed's account?

Guaporense
12-30-13, 08:41 PM
I think that Kiki's Delivery Service is the closest animated movies get in relation to Taxi Driver. Both movies are almost identical.

Daniel M
12-30-13, 08:51 PM
The awkward moment when you're not sure if Guapo's being serious or not.

Guaporense
12-30-13, 08:53 PM
Have you watched Kiki's Delivery Service?
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I though so.

mark f
12-30-13, 09:13 PM
Since when does that have anything to do with it? :)

But seriously, Kiki's broom blows apart heads real good.

Miss Vicky
12-30-13, 09:13 PM
The awkward moment when you're not sure if Guapo's being serious or not.

Either way, I think it's official that he's lost his mind.

rauldc14
12-30-13, 09:41 PM
Just watched the Andromeda Strain. It was awful. 2/10

And I loved The Impossible. The performances were great from Watts, Holland, and Ewan McGregor.

mark f
12-30-13, 09:46 PM
Just watched the Andromeda Strain. It was awful. 2/10
I guess you checked your brain and senses. :)

The Gunslinger45
12-30-13, 09:58 PM
I think that Kiki's Delivery Service is the closest animated movies get in relation to Taxi Driver. Both movies are almost identical.

Note to self, see Kiki's Delivery Service.

honeykid
12-30-13, 10:21 PM
Just watched the Andromeda Strain. It was awful. 2/10
What? The original (1971) or some God awful remake?

Mmmm Donuts
12-30-13, 10:24 PM
Note to self, see Kiki's Delivery Service.

I find this hard to believe, seeing as that movie is rated G, and the girl on the cover has a bright red ribbon on her head. I don't remember Travis rocking one of those.

The Gunslinger45
12-30-13, 10:27 PM
I find this hard to believe, seeing as that movie is rated G, and the girl on the cover has a bright red ribbon on her head. I don't remember Travis rocking one of those.

I never said I believed it. :D

But I figure why not see it anyways.

The Sci-Fi Slob
12-30-13, 10:28 PM
Just watched the Andromeda Strain. It was awful. 2/10

I hope you're talking about the horrendous remake, and not the classic that preceded it. :eek:

Cobpyth
12-30-13, 10:59 PM
Have you watched Kiki's Delivery Service?
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....
I though so.

Yes.

Is it similar to Taxi Driver? No, although you could say it is on a VERY superficial level. Both of the main characters are in the transportation business. :p

rauldc14
12-30-13, 11:07 PM
What? The original (1971) or some God awful remake?

The original. Didn't know there was a remake

The Gunslinger45
12-30-13, 11:08 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/TestamentOfDrMabuse-Poster.jpg

Damn good film! Great acting, and the effects for Dr Mabuse were unnerving! But I will admit the ending (IE the last minute or so) was a bit of a let down. I was expecting more. Not a huge one, but it certainly did not end as I thought it would. Perhaps that was the point. Either way, a very good movie.

4

Mmmm Donuts
12-30-13, 11:11 PM
Yes.

Is it similar to Taxi Driver? No, although you could say it is on a VERY superficial level. Both of the main characters are in the transportation business. :p

If you tell me that Kiki is a racist lonely girl who keeps a diary and takes her boyfriend to a porn theatre, I will join GS and watch this right away.

The Gunslinger45
12-30-13, 11:12 PM
If you tell me that Kiki is a racist lonely girl who keeps a diary and takes her boyfriend to a porn theatre, I will join GS and watch this right away.

Never knew the director of Princess Mononoke and Ponyo had it in him.

Pussy Galore
12-31-13, 12:46 AM
Le Dernier Métro (1980)
François Truffaut
7.5/10

Lucas
12-31-13, 01:13 AM
Eastern Promises

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTgvgCzDCZQHNtSN7jBKM-0GpwjaCERRYMnlqtLmluR7lFv5HjV

4.5. Eastern Promises is bloody brilliant and easily one of the best films of the 21st century. I'll be writing a long review of it in the movie tab soon. This movie is great.

Guaporense
12-31-13, 01:37 AM
Since when does that have anything to do with it? :)

Isn't it obvious?

Both movies represent the same situation. A young person gets out of home and began to live alone and to provide for themselves in a large town which they have trouble living in. Both movies deal with the difficulties the main character as she tries to deal with this new life, living as a self employed worker in the transportation business and their difficulties in relating to other people (such as getting a girlfriend/boyfriend, both fail to do so inside the running time of the film for different reasons). The main theme of both movies is social alienation and the difficulty of learning to live as a self sufficient adult (i.e. coming of age). Even the ending is similar as the main character saves a friend in both cases.

One is much more aggressive than the other. Kiki's Delivery Service is elegant and subtle, Taxi Driver is super aggressive, they represent the different film making approaches of both directors.

Kiki's Delivery Service is what would happen if you tried to transform Taxi Driver into a adorable cute movie while preserving the main plot and thematic elements.

Overall, I find Kiki's Delivery Service to be even more similar to Taxi Driver than Drive, which is a movie that is now often compared to Taxi Driver. Drive contains the same superficial elements of Taxi Driver, such as the machismo and the bleak atmosphere while Kiki's Delivery Service contains the main themes of Taxi Driver and so is similar at the core.

Even the cover's have some similarities depicting the main character with a melancholic tone:

Taxi Driver cover:
http://bretdorman.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/taxi-post21.jpg

Kiki's Delivery Service cover (original and not the cr*ppy Disney one, which wasn't approved by Miyazaki and doesn't represent his artistic vision):
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_di621Kpm2A4/S6RSMywLwVI/AAAAAAAADZg/-v9ezPrpJ3M/s1600/kikisdeliveryservice.jpg

Guaporense
12-31-13, 01:42 AM
Never knew the director of Princess Mononoke and Ponyo had it in him.

Well, actually, Miyazaki wrote the Nausicaa manga, which is far more grim, disturbing and violent than anything Scorsese even dealt with.

Also, Miyazaki is known to be a quite rude and aggressive man, very different from the female characters that he writes.

Juror8
12-31-13, 01:44 AM
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The Iceman

A disappointing mess that feels like an incomplete made-for-TV movie. Way too many details are skimmed over and the whole narrative just feels so rushed and disorganized. The twists can be seen coming miles away and the whole thing has just been done to death- there's barely anything at all that's treading new ground now that I think about it. If it wasn't for Michael Shannon, I would've rated this even lower. In fact I think I'd recommend this film for his performance alone as I don't think there's any other actor who would've inhabited this role as well as Shannon did. He proves that he's one seriously brilliant actor right here like no other and his ice cold stare is used to chilling and overpowering effect. Shannon makes The Iceman worth seeing alone but don't expect a film that builds up to much more than a mediocre crime thriller.

2.5/5

The Gunslinger45
12-31-13, 01:55 AM
Well, actually, Miyazaki wrote the Nausicaa manga, which is far more grim, disturbing and violent than anything Scorsese even dealt with.

More then Taxi Driver?... Nah. Now I like Nausicaa, but Taxi Driver is a slower, darker, and far more personal decent into one man's insanity. While there more be more violent acts in total in Nausicaa, the scenes of violence is more brutal in Taxi Driver. Not to mention Taxi Driver is bleak and Nausicaa has a happy ending full of hope. At the end of Taxi Driver, Travis is still nuts.

Of course that is just me.

Mmmm Donuts
12-31-13, 02:08 AM
More then Taxi Driver?... Nah. Now I like Nausicaa, but Taxi Driver is a slower, darker, and far more personal decent into one man's insanity. While there more be more violent acts in total in Nausicaa, the scenes of violence is more brutal in Taxi Driver. Not to mention Taxi Driver is bleak and Nausicaa has a happy ending full of hope. At the end of Taxi Driver, Travis is still nuts.

Of course that is just me.

Yup, you nailed it there. I tried not to mention that in my review for the sake of spoilers, but oh well. I haven't seen or read Nausicaa, so I won't comment on that, but what makes the violence in Taxi Driver (and Drive for that matter) so intense, is how long both directors made the audience wait for it. Then when it hits, it's sudden, and hits hard.

One minute Travis is talking about saving a prostitute, the next he's blasting a man's hand off and spraying the walls with blood.

The Gunslinger45
12-31-13, 02:09 AM
Yup, you nailed it there. I tried not to mention that in my review for the sake of spoilers, but oh well. I haven't seen or read Nausicaa, so I won't comment on that, but what makes the violence in Taxi Driver (and Drive for that matter) so intense, is how long both directors made the audience wait for it. Then when it hits, it's sudden, and hits hard.

One minute Travis is talking about saving a prostitute, the next he's blasting a man's hand off and spraying the walls with blood.

It is a slow burn, much like a stick of dynamite.

Guaporense
12-31-13, 02:14 AM
Is it similar to Taxi Driver? No, although you could say it is on a VERY superficial level. Both of the main characters are in the transportation business. :p

You don't know the meaning of the English work superficial.

The violence and the R rating material are the superficial elements of Taxi Driver.

The core element is the psychological turmoil that the protagonist deals with while trying to live in society and having difficulty doing so. This is the same core element of Kiki's Delivery Service.

bluedeed
12-31-13, 02:15 AM
You don't know the meaning of the English work superficial.

So close to a burn! Type slower

Guaporense
12-31-13, 02:15 AM
More then Taxi Driver?... Nah. Now I like Nausicaa, but Taxi Driver is a slower, darker, and far more personal decent into one man's insanity. While there more be more violent acts in total in Nausicaa, the scenes of violence is more brutal in Taxi Driver. Not to mention Taxi Driver is bleak and Nausicaa has a happy ending full of hope. At the end of Taxi Driver, Travis is still nuts.

Of course that is just me.

I am talking about the manga not the movie. The movie is far less violent and grim than the manga. You did not read the manga.

Miyazaki's most violent movie is Princess Mononoke, where the characters are extremely hateful of one another, specially Moro. It is still much less violent and grim than Nausicaa, the manga.

I agree that Taxi Driver is more grim and violent than any movie Miyazaki directed (including PM) and it's extremely violent and one of Scorsese's most shocking movies.

Miyazaki made his movies to be always a bit family friendly, he did not care about that when he wrote the manga. So he actually unloaded all his aggression into the manga, leaving the aggression out of the movies he directed while writing the manga such as Totoro, Kiki's Delivery Service and Porco Rosso, which are very soft movies.

Mmmm Donuts
12-31-13, 02:16 AM
You don't know the meaning of the English work superficial.

The violence and the R rating material are the superficial elements of Taxi Driver.

The core element is the psychological turmoil that the protagonist deals with while trying to live in society and having difficulty doing so. This is the same core element of Kiki's Delivery Service.

Fine, we should give it a watch and see for ourselves. Anyways, I've heard good things about the movie (and it's Miyazaki), so it will probably be time well spent.

The Gunslinger45
12-31-13, 02:17 AM
I am talking about the manga not the movie. The movie is far less violent and grim than the manga.

This I can believe. Okay put it in context of something I would be familiar with. Say... The Berserk manga.

bluedeed
12-31-13, 02:21 AM
Synopsis: My favorite director's movies are better than your favorite director's movies

Guaporense
12-31-13, 02:28 AM
This I can believe. Okay put it in context of something I would be familiar with. Say... The Berserk manga.

Haven't read it. I have seem the violence in the movies adaptation, it's very violent. But a more computer game type of violence where the main character kills everybody and there is some rape as well.

Nausicaa's violence is more of the horror/psychological type. Far more affecting in my opinion.

Some pages:
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You would have to read it to know. Miyazaki can write very aggressive stuff, though, Kiki's Delivery Service is precisely the inverse, even though it is still a very intense film.

mark f
12-31-13, 02:29 AM
Drive doesn't borrow from Taxi Driver. It's more of a rehash of Walter Hill's The Driver. Travis is deeply scarred and influenced by the Vietnam War. What war did Kiki go through?

Mmmm Donuts
12-31-13, 02:30 AM
Drive doesn't borrow from Taxi Driver, It's more of a rehash of Walter Hill's The Driver. Travis is deeply scarred and influenced by the Vietnam War. What war did Kiki go through?

...Middle school?

RepentantSky
12-31-13, 02:35 AM
I think that Kiki's Delivery Service is the closest animated movies get in relation to Taxi Driver. Both movies are almost identical.

Please, Akira is closer than that.

Guaporense
12-31-13, 02:35 AM
Drive doesn't borrow from Taxi Driver. It's more of a rehash of Walter Hill's The Driver. Travis is deeply scarred and influenced by the Vietnam War. What war did Kiki go through?

Again, you are making a logical fallacy here.

Of course, the movies are different due to the simple fact that they are two movies and not one, but my basic point, that they share many characteristics, stands.

The Vietnam War made Travis a more vulnerable character unable to easily integrate himself in society, Kiki's is a little girl, hence, also a vulnerable character who lacks experience in integrating herself in society.

mark f
12-31-13, 02:36 AM
I am? You need to stop taking yourself so seriously.

The Gunslinger45
12-31-13, 02:37 AM
Haven't read it. I have seem the violence in the movies adaptation, it's very violent. But a more computer game type of violence where the main character kills everybody and there is some rape as well.

Nausicaa's violence is more of the horror/psychological type. Far more affecting in my opinion.

Not as much help as I hoped for. A tad confusing too since the violence in the movie seems more sci-fi then anything. Then again as you said the violence is tamed down in the movie.

Either way, I think the realistic setting of 1970's NYC works better due to the lack of a fantasy setting. The closer to reality allows the viewer to think it is more likely to happen. In fact it has happened considering Travis was based off the guy who shot George Wallace. You want psychological influences let that sink in.

Guess this comes down to taste.