THE MOFO CHILL CLUB

[MovieGal]

They look a bit like Smarties. Is there chocolate inside?

http://www.alzheimerswiltshire.org.uk/support-images/smarties-loose.jpg


Nope just straight hard candy sugar....

[honeykid]

I don't like the idea of pics in the sig. It'd take up too much space and look too busy.

[honeykid]

Nope just straight hard candy sugar....
In that case, Smarties are much better. :yup:

[MovieGal]

I don't like the idea of pics in the sig. It'd take up too much space and look too busy.

but mine is an awesome picture... I found another HOT picture of Mads yesterday..... made my heart stop.....

[Swan]

I'm going to fake having a picture signature.



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[honeykid]

but mine is an awesome picture... I found another HOT picture of Mads yesterday..... made my heart stop.....
And I could Drew the place up, but that's what the profile page is for.

[MovieGal]

And I could Drew the place up, but that's what the profile page is for.


Yeah, since I first came here.. I have always had Mads as an avatar... and then when I came back... we had banners... so he's always been my banner as well....

[Sexy Celebrity]

but mine is an awesome picture... I found another HOT picture of Mads yesterday..... made my heart stop.....
And I could Drew the place up, but that's what the profile page is for.
Your profile is for Whoopi pictures.

[MovieGal]

Ok I have a confession.. when I first started posting here... over 8 months ago..

I thought "HoneyKid" and "Sexy Celebrity" were female.... I guess I was way off the base....

[Sexy Celebrity]

Nope just straight hard candy sugar....
In that case, Smarties are much better. :yup:
I agree.

[MovieGal]

I agree.

but "Button Candy" is retro...... from when I was young in the 1970s... lol

[honeykid]

That's what we need, more Drew Barrymore. :p

Nice to see we agree for once. :D
Ok I have a confession.. when I first started posting here... over 8 months ago..

I thought "HoneyKid" and "Sexy Celebrity" were female.... I guess I was way off the base....
That's OK. SC still thinks I'm female sometimes. :D

[MovieGal]

Hey Swan, you ever seen "Pusher" from Denmark? Not the American remake....

[Swan]

I wasn't sure what picture to put in my signature, so I just used this one.



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[Swan]

Hey Swan, you ever seen "Pusher" from Denmark? Not the American remake....

I haven't. Is that the Refn film?



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[MovieGal]

Nice to see we agree for once. :D

That's OK. SC still thinks I'm female sometimes. :D

I dont want anyone stealing my "Mads".. he's mine!!!!!

[Sexy Celebrity]

Honeykid is male and female to me. I'm the same way. I'm a man and a woman.

[MovieGal]

I haven't. Is that the Refn film?



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Yes.. His first film... awesome film!!!!!!

[MovieGal]

Honeykid is male and female to me. I'm the same way. I'm a man and a woman.


you are both male to me... so can I flirt a bit?

lol j/k

[Sexy Celebrity]

I actually watched an episode of Hannibal the other night... it was cool to see things from the Hannibal book played out. I might have to break down and buy the season... it felt more Hannibal like than the Hannibal movie, almost.... but I don't like the guy who plays Hannibal......

[Swan]

Honeykid is male and female to me. I'm the same way. I'm a man and a woman.

You're an alien, to me.

[MovieGal]

I actually watched an episode of Hannibal the other night... it was cool to see things from the Hannibal book played out. I might have to break down and buy the season... it felt more Hannibal like than the Hannibal movie, almost.... but I don't like the guy who plays Hannibal......


Oh you would love the show!!!! and Mads.. is great as Hannibal!!!!

you do realize the quote in my signature is of Mads... Mads Dittman Mikkelsen..

:)

[MovieGal]

I remember me and Honeykid going at it in the "insult" thread..... it was interesting and fun...

[Swan]

There's an insult thread?

[Sexy Celebrity]

I liked Michael Pitt as Mason. I dont know about Margot though... Margot is supposed to be a bodybuilder. It still doesn't seem to right to me... how they've changed things.

[honeykid]

you are both male to me... so can I flirt a bit?

lol j/k
You can flirt with me, but you're wasting your time with SC. :D
Oh you would love the show!!!!
I don't know that he would. I mean, he might, but I think it may well annoy him.

[MovieGal]

There's an insult thread?

There was about 8 months ago.. not sure if its still around.....

[MovieGal]

I don't know that he would. I mean, he might, but I think it may well annoy him.

doesn't most things annoy him? like Asian films?

[Sexy Celebrity]

The episode of Hannibal that I watched was where Margot got in an accident and I think Mason made her infertile.

[Swan]

I can't for the life of me remember if I've seen the Prom Night remake.

[honeykid]

doesn't most things annoy him? like Asian films?
I don't know that Asian film actually annoy him. Just their presence on our lists. :D

[Sexy Celebrity]

I havent seen the Prom Night remake, but the original wasn't anything special.

[MovieGal]

The episode of Hannibal that I watched was where Margot got in an accident and I think Mason made her infertile.


Yup that was it!

I love how Will reacted to that....

Honestly.. at first I didnt think Hugh Dancy was a great choice for Will Graham... I thought Edward Norton did a better job.....

[Swan]

I havent seen the Prom Night remake, but the original wasn't anything special.

The original is okay. I blind bought it and I don't think I've gotten rid of it.

[MovieGal]

I Love this...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-aXsH8ItD2zk/U20uSJigubI/AAAAAAAAIzM/hXHEuSNsNFw/s1600/giphy+(5).gif

[Sexy Celebrity]

doesn't most things annoy him? like Asian films?
I don't know that Asian film actually annoy him. Just their presence on our lists. :D
Asian movies don't annoy me on their own. It's the people who obsess over them and act like they're better than everything else. To me it looks like they have some kind of Asian people fetish/wish they had been born Asian themselves.

[MovieGal]

The original is okay. I blind bought it and I don't think I've gotten rid of it.

You want to know a film I blind bought and loved it...


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__GePcCMuWX0/S94BVGCL9tI/AAAAAAAABX8/iR0S8FUbR_c/s1600/valhalla_rising_3-500x309.jpg

[Sexy Celebrity]

The episode of Hannibal that I watched was where Margot got in an accident and I think Mason made her infertile.


Yup that was it!

I love how Will reacted to that....

Honestly.. at first I didnt think Hugh Dancy was a great choice for Will Graham... I thought Edward Norton did a better job.....
I love the Red Dragon movie with him.

[MovieGal]

Asian movies don't annoy me on their own. It's the people who obsess over them and act like they're better than everything else. To me it looks like they have some kind of Asian people fetish/wish they had been born Asian themselves.

You probably feel that way about me and my non-english speaking foreign films....

[Swan]

I've only seen The Silence of the Lambs, which I love. Mads looks good as Hannibal though.

[honeykid]

I've only seen The Silence of the Lambs, which I love. Mads looks good as Hannibal though.
Manhunter's better, IMO. I've not bothered with the rest.

[Swan]

Doesn't that have the awesome insect guy from CSI?

[MovieGal]

I've only seen The Silence of the Lambs, which I love. Mads looks good as Hannibal though.

This is said about Hannibal and every film of Mads... He has a presence on film or tv that the man does not need to say one word.. his expressions and movements tell the story... dialog is nothing....

Swan, watch "Valhalla Rising" and you will understand what I say... even with "Hannibal", his dialog means nothing....

[MovieGal]

Manhunter's better, IMO. I've not bothered with the rest.

Really?

Its
Anthony Hopkins
Mads Mikkelsen
Brian Cox....

[honeykid]

Doesn't that have the awesome insect guy from CSI?

I don't know how awesome he is, but yes, William Peterson's in it as Will.

[Swan]

Really?

Its
Anthony Hopkins
Mads Mikkelsen
Brian Cox....

Wait, you rate Hopkins higher than Mikkelsen?

[Swan]

I don't know how awesome he is, but yes, William Peterson's in it as Will.

I hate CSI, but I always liked Gil.

[MovieGal]

Wait, you rate Hopkins higher than Mikkelsen?

yes as far as the character of Hannibal Lecter...

He was my first.. and he is just as great of an actor as Mads...

They both have different styles of playing the character.... but they are just as good as the other....

Ok Im out of here for a while..

Need Food!

[honeykid]

Really?

Its
Anthony Hopkins
Mads Mikkelsen
Brian Cox....
Oh, I don't care about Hannibal at all. I've never gotten the mystique. :shrug: Hopkins performance is so OTT and hammy I just laugh. Cox is hardly in Manhunter, as the character isn't really important. Mads is good, but I only really liked the first and last episodes of Season 1. I tried to watch Season 2, but it's just too dark (I mean actually dark, not thematically) and they've **** with the colour so much that it just annoys me. As I was only giving it another go because of the last episode of season 1, I decided to drop it.

[Swan]

Bye MovieGal!

[Swan]

Oh, I don't care about Hannibal at all. I've never gotten the mystique. :shrug: Hopkins performance is so OTT and hammy I just laugh. Cox is hardly in Manhunter, as the character isn't really important. Mads is good, but I only really liked the first and last episodes of Season 1. I tried to watch Season 2, but it's just too dark (I mean actually dark, not thematically) and they've **** with the colour so much that it just annoys me. As I was only giving it another go because of the last episode of season 1, I decided to drop it.

I hate when they do that. Part of why I hate Alien vs. Predator: Requiem.

[Sexy Celebrity]

The best stuff about Hannibal, I feel, is the story of Clarice Starling. The books, Silence of the Lambs and Hannibal, deal with it the best. Everything else is just roughage.

[honeykid]

I hate when they do that. Part of why I hate Alien vs. Predator: Requiem.
It seems to be becoming more and more prevalent, especially with crime drama. There are entire seasons of Criminal Minds where I think they tried to save money by not paying for lightbulbs.

Whispering and mumbling, too. I blame The Wire for that, but at least in The Wire, while it can be quiet, it's usually clear.

[rauldc14]

Silence of the Lambs is a great film.

[MovieGal]

Howdy Rauldc14

[MovieGal]

The best stuff about Hannibal, I feel, is the story of Clarice Starling. The books, Silence of the Lambs and Hannibal, deal with it the best. Everything else is just roughage.

I heard that they cant use Clarice in the TV show.. something about the copyrights due to "Silence of the Lambs".

I own the Criterion version of "SOTL". I was very lucky to find it used for a good price.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Going to start the prom momentarily. In some places, it's already June 7th.

[Swan]

Ba dum bum!

[rauldc14]

Let's get this prom on the road then damnit!

[Swan]

Watching Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. On the opening credits right now, and the name Alison Doody just appeared. What an unfortunate name.

[rauldc14]

His husbands name is Howie

[Swan]

Wow, turns out she's actually the leading lady.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Channing Tatum.

That is all.

[donniedarko]

I haven't been a great member of the chill club, but Silence of the lambs is the ****ing ****, and Hannibal (1st season atleast) is pretty good.

[TheUsualSuspect]

At first I missed the word "THE" and had a mini heart-attack.

[Godoggo]

So my date went really well. It was fun.

[Hit Girl]

So my date went really well. It was fun.

That's fantastic. Do you think there will be a second date?

[Godoggo]

That's fantastic. Do you think there will be a second date?

Yep. We already made plans. :D

[Hit Girl]

Yep. We already made plans. :D

Yay! I'm so happy for you. So what did you talk about? You must feel really comfortable with him. Where are you going on the next date?

[Godoggo]

We talked about everything, but we kept it light. We talked about our jobs, what we like to do (we don't have much in common, but I am ok with that) we kind of joked around for awhile and then we took a walk around the duck pond. We were both kind of quiet during the walk, but it was a good quiet.

I did feel comfortable around him. The first five or ten minutes were really awkward for me, but he just kept talking and soon I forgot I really don't know him at all. I actually ended up being the one to suggest our next plans. I was talking about Blue Springs and he said he hadn't been there in years so I said that he should come with me the next time he has some time off. That won't be for a little over a week, but we are meeting each other for lunch Wednesday.

It was cool. I wasn't expecting to really like him this much. :D

[rauldc14]

Happy for you! :)

[Hit Girl]

Brilliant! The 'good kind of quiet', is a great sign.

http://cdn.wp.sweetim.sweetpacks.com/files/2012/07/big_hug.jpg

[honeykid]

Pleased to hear it went well, Godoggo. :)

[Swan]

Go Godoggo go!

[MovieGal]

Good Morning.............

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[rauldc14]

Afternoon all! Its a good day! 3 more hours of work!

[Swan]

Hey Raul.

[rauldc14]

What's on your agenda for today Swan?

[Swan]

Seeing Godzilla again, this time with my pop.

[Godoggo]

I really want to se Godzilla. I might even brave the theaters to see it.

[Swan]

It is a really flawed film, but I like it.

[seanc]

Whats up mofos. Hope you all are not too hung over from last night. I managed to get four movies in while you were partying the night away. It was just like high school all over again.

[sickgirl]

I missed it all. And didn't even get to watch any movies.

[MovieGal]

Anyone want to go to work for me today?

[sickgirl]

Anyone want to go to work for me today?

I WISH.

[seanc]

What do you do movie gal

[seanc]

Good morning sickgirl welcome to the chill club.

[sickgirl]

It's 5.30 PM but yeah, good morning.
And thanks :)

[seanc]

It's 5.30 PM but yeah, good morning.
And thanks :)

Sorry about that. I assume everyone is on my time because Im human which means the world must be revolving around me.

[Godoggo]

Did you watch anything good, Seanc?

[seanc]

Lone survivor i tjought was a really good action movie and very affecting since its a true story.

[seanc]

Llewyn Davis was fantastic, my second watch. Wolf Of Wall Street is very good also a rewatch.

[Godoggo]

I haven't gotten around to seeing that yet, but it looks good.

[seanc]

Book Thief was the disappoinment of the night. Way over sentimental and full of too many coincidences.

[Godoggo]

Book Thief was the disappoinment of the night. Way over sentimental and full of too many coincidences.

Those type of movies are always very hit or miss with me. I can really really love them like with The Hedgehog or I really hate them. I think the sentimentality can feel cheap and manipulative if the filmmakers aren't careful or if the viewer isn't buying into the film.

[MovieGal]

What do you do movie gal

Emergency Dispatch Operator for a security alarm company... I only have to work 5 hours today.. took some vacation time to sleep a bit later.... I dont like working Sundays or getting up early....

[seanc]

You told us that last week, I apologize. I am obviously very into myself this morning.

Have a good day at work.

[seanc]

Those type of movies are always very hit or miss with me. I can really really love them like with The Hedgehog or I really hate them. I think the sentimentality can feel cheap and manipulative if the filmmakers aren't careful or if the viewer isn't buying into the film.

I agree. In general I dont abhor narration like some film fans but this was the worst use of it I can think of. It was a reco from my sister so I went with it. Oh well.

[Godoggo]

I agree. In general I dont abhor narration like some film fans but this was the worst use of it I can think of. It was a reco from my sister so I went with it. Oh well.

I was going to watch it but it did look a bit on the schmaltzy side so I left it alone.

I need to watch some Asian movies. I am slacking. I'll never catch up to Sane or Guap, but I still want my third place.

[seanc]

What do you have lined up?

[Swan]

I need to watch some Asian movies. I am slacking. I'll never catch up to Sane or Guap, but I still want my third place.

Me too. I have some sitting around that I need to watch.

[Godoggo]

Nothing in particular. I've searched in vain for Tokyo! which I want to see so badly. It is comprised of three short films. One by Joon-ho Bong, who is fantastic, another by Michel Gondry, who I am a big fan of, and another by some guy. Michel Gondry collaborated on his with Gabrielle Bell, a comic strip writer I am really into, so I am dying to see this movie.

I want to see something else by Ann Hui too. I might try to find something of hers.

[Godoggo]

Me too. I have some sitting around that I need to watch.

Yeah, I probably should get off here and actually watch a movie. :)

[Godoggo]

Plus I have those two movies from the hall of fame left to watch. Swan and Seanc, do you guys have any idea what you're nominating next time?

[Swan]

I have no idea. It can be anything, right? I am having a hard time making a choice.

[Godoggo]

Yep, as long as it was a theatrical release and it can be found somewhere on the internet to watch.

[Swan]

Is limited release okay?

[Godoggo]

Yep. I'm just trying to avoid made for TV movies and other things.

[Swan]

I might have a movie. Something I don't think a lot of people will have seen.

[honeykid]

Sorry about that. I assume everyone is on my time because Im human which means the world must be revolving around me.
Yeah, I'm sorry to disappoint you, Sean, but the universe can't revolve around you as it revolves around me. Seriously. That's why I move so little, because when i do I throw gravity all out of whack. It's a huge responsibility. :D

[honeykid]

Catching the end of Ghostbusters. Stay Puft has turned up and their about to cross the streams. :eek:

[Sexy Celebrity]

Sorry about that. I assume everyone is on my time because Im human which means the world must be revolving around me.
Yeah, I'm sorry to disappoint you, Sean, but the universe can't revolve around you as it revolves around me. Seriously. That's why I move so little, because when i do I throw gravity all out of whack. It's a huge responsibility. :D
You move so little? Are you morbidly obese?

[seanc]

Plus I have those two movies from the hall of fame left to watch. Swan and Seanc, do you guys have any idea what you're nominating next time?

Yeah I think I will PM you with it this week. I have been going back and fortg between a couple but think I settled on one.

[Yoda]

I was going to complain about this thread being in ALL CAPS, but I guess that wouldn't be very chill of me, would it?

[seanc]

Its not very chill to shout either, so you may have a point.

[rauldc14]

Another joker day at work

[Godoggo]

I was going to complain about this thread being in ALL CAPS, but I guess that wouldn't be very chill of me, would it?

No, but I think we are allowed to be un-chill in here as well. You know, so we can complain and cry and moan and stuff. Not that any of us ever do that. ;)

[Swan]

TO ME, TYPING IN ALL CAPS REMINDS ME OF THE SNL SKIT WHERE WILL FERRELL HAS A YELLING DISORDER. LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND IT. HERE IT IS. THE QUALITY IS CRAP THOUGH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8k2AAMTZKo

[Sexy Celebrity]

I don't see why everyone sees all caps as yelling all the time. Sure, if I'm doing it, I'm probably "yelling" but sometimes it's just people who are lazy or don't know how to type well.

[Swan]

That's how I read it in my mind, as yelling.

[Sexy Celebrity]

It's not yelling, really, though. It's typing in all caps. Big difference.

[rauldc14]

I don't see why everyone sees all caps as yelling all the time. Sure, if I'm doing it, I'm probably "yelling" but sometimes it's just people who are lazy or don't know how to type well.

I's a gud tiper. Sow it ain't me.

[Swan]

How would you yell, Sexy? Using your keyboard, I mean.

[rauldc14]

But in reality, not only was I not yelling, I didn't even realize it was in all caps until it was brought up.

[seanc]

I don't see why everyone sees all caps as yelling all the time. Sure, if I'm doing it, I'm probably "yelling" but sometimes it's just people who are lazy or don't know how to type well.

I'm not 100% sure but I think that is widely known for yelling. I have heard it on more than one occasion for sure. SO GET OFF MY BACK.

[Sexy Celebrity]

How would you yell, Sexy? Using your keyboard, I mean.

If I wanted to yell at you I WOULD DO IT LIKE THIS! :furious::furious::furious::furious::furious::furious::furious::furious:

But still, I think seeing writing in all caps as "yelling" is kind of stupid.

For starters, let them yell.

If you are seriously bothered by someone writing in all caps, something's wrong with you. The problem is with you. There is no voice coming from text -- ever. Text is a lot different than a screaming, yelling voice.

[rauldc14]

I don't think it's yelling unless exclamations are used. YOU GET WHAT IM SAYING!!!!!!!!

[Swan]

I'm not bothered by it at all. In fact, I love when people type in all caps.

I LOVE WHEN PEOPLE YELL!!!!!!

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'll tell you what bothers me.

People who write MoFo as "Mofo."

It's MoFo, Raul.

[Cobpyth]

mOfo

[rauldc14]

I'll tell you what bothers me.

People who write MoFo as "Mofo."

It's MoFo, Raul.

Potato, potatoe, tomato, tomatoe

[rauldc14]

Mofo

[Swan]

Well it's 5:42 and I've already eaten dinner. Not sure what to do now.

[rauldc14]

Well it's 5:42 and I've already eaten dinner. Not sure what to do now.

Hang out at prom

[Cobpyth]

Watch a movie?

[Swan]

No one is at prom anymore, it seems.

[seanc]

I would suggest some NBA action but I don't want to see pics of men in their underwear.

[Swan]

Watch a movie?

That's what I was thinking. I might watch The Weeping Meadow or Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives.

[MovieGal]

Hi Everyone

[Swan]

Hey MovieGal, what's up?

[MovieGal]

Nothing really.. how are you Swanyz?

[Swan]

I am good. :)

[Sexy Celebrity]

Urgh. Don't bore yourself with Uncle Boonmee.

[MovieGal]

I need something good to watch.. something new, something exciting and something foreign....

[bluedeed]

That's what I was thinking. I might watch The Weeping Meadow or Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives.

I haven't seen the Angelopoulos, but everything else I've seen from him is great. Have you seen any other Of Weerasethakul's films? I strongly recommend seeing others before you watch the self reflexive Uncle Boonmee.

By the way, what's up everyone? I've been away from MoFo (Mofo) for the past couple weeks for finals and post-finals de-stressing vacation, but I'm back now, and this thread seems cool, I'll hang around here when I can.

[Sexy Celebrity]

You, Honeykid and Nostromo and I need to watch Slumber Party Massacre III.

[Swan]

I haven't seen the Angelopoulos, but everything else I've seen from him is great. Have you seen any other Of Weerasethakul's films? I strongly recommend seeing others before you watch the self reflexive Uncle Boonmee.

I haven't. Which would you recommend me seeing first? And why exactly should I watch others before Boonmee?

You, Honeykid and Nostromo and I need to watch Slumber Party Massacre III.

Yeah, we do.

[bluedeed]

I haven't. Which would you recommend me seeing first? And why exactly should I watch others before Boonmee?

See my top ten :).
I say that because the past lives in the title not only refer to that of its protagonist (and other characters?), but also the past lives of Weerasethakul's cinema. I think the film makes a lot more sense after seeing his other films both because Boonmee is a more difficult film than his others, but also because Boonmee builds some of its narrative and meaning on the other films.

[Swan]

I see. I will try Tropical Malady first then.

[bluedeed]

Hope you like it, Minio, TokeZa, and I all love it!

[MovieGal]

Nice! "Blue is the Warmest Colour" is on Netflix.... I seen it already tho!

[Swan]

How is everyone doing?

[Hit Girl]

Great. I'm on my fourth day of an extra long weekend. Back to work tomorrow though.

[rauldc14]

Great. I'm on my fourth day of an extra long weekend. Back to work tomorrow though.

What do you do?

[Swan]

Last day of breaks always suck for me because you know you have to be somewhere you don't want to be the next day.

[Hit Girl]

What do you do?

Horticulturist. Sounds grand, but at the moment I'm working in a nursery. I'm doing some study to move into a job where I can use my writing/research skills.

[Hit Girl]

Last days of breaks always suck for me because you know you have to be somewhere you don't want to be the next day.

I've got four weeks until I go on holidays. I think I can make it. :)

[Swan]

I love the feeling after you see a masterpiece for the first time.

[rauldc14]

I love the feeling after you see a masterpiece for the first time.

Tokyo Story was near masterpiece for me.

[Skepsis93]

I love the feeling after you see a masterpiece for the first time.

I'll always remember seeing Lawrence of Arabia and Gone With the Wind on back to back days, each for the first time, and being utterly blown away by both. That was a great weekend.

[Cobpyth]

I love the feeling after you see a masterpiece for the first time.

That's the reason why I love discovering new movies so much. It's such an undescribably satisfying feeling when you've finally found another new favorite (a new top 100 kind of film)! The last time I had it was last week with Le Cercle Rouge. I literally applauded to my screen when it was over. :p

[Swan]

I watch new potential favorites all the time, but it's rare for me to discover a film I consider true filmmaking genius. A real masterpiece is hard to come by.

[rauldc14]

How many films do you think are "masterpieces"?

[bluedeed]

Tokyo Story was near masterpiece for me.

It is a masterpiece! I'm really glad you liked that, Raul. I know that Ozu is not for many people, but I have so much love for him and his movies.

Anyways, I started today at my first internship. Seems like this whole first week will be online training and interviews with my group, being corporate is so much fun...

[rauldc14]

It is a masterpiece! I'm really glad you liked that, Raul. I know that Ozu is not for many people, but I have so much love for him and his movies.

Anyways, I started today at my first internship. Seems like this whole first week will be online training and interviews with my group, being corporate is so much fun...

Its a great film! Its weird because i have favorites rated ahead of it, but on a technical standpoint it is greater. If that makes sense.

[Swan]

How many films do you think are "masterpieces"?

That's a good question... I definitely consider my top ten to be masterpieces. But I don't think my top 100 would be all masterpieces.

I don't know. Hard to answer.

[rauldc14]

That's a good question... I definitely consider my top ten to be masterpieces. But I don't think my top 100 would be all masterpieces.

I don't know. Hard to answer.

I definitely dont think there are 100 masterpieces i have seen. Maybe 30-40ish

[Swan]

Yeah, that sounds around the same for me.

[bluedeed]

I use the term masterpiece pretty loosely, it typically applies to any movie I found to be profound or profoundly moving. Not necessarily a perfect movie (ex. Distant Voices, Still Lives), but one that left a unique and (at least semi-) permanent stamp in my head.

[Nostromo87]

out of curiosity, how do you guys define a masterpiece when it comes to a movie

edit: bluedeed beat me to the question by providing his general thoughts. but i'd still like to hear rauldc, swan, or anyone else's process

[rauldc14]

out of curiosity, how do you guys define a masterpiece when it comes to a movie

I look at it more from a technical standpoint, mainly acting cinematography direction and dialogue.

[Swan]

out of curiosity, how do you guys define a masterpiece when it comes to a movie

edit: bluedeed beat me to the question by providing his general thoughts. but i'd still like to hear rauldc, swan, or anyone else's process

Honestly, for me, a lot of it is the power of the script. Characterization, character development, how the writer/director tells the story, the themes, etc. Also, technical stuff comes into play, like cinematography can go a long way. A lot of the time it is just a film that has a lot of what I like. Even though it's not what most would consider a masterpiece, I consider Primer a masterpiece for me because it has a lot of stuff I like in it - science fiction, science, being a puzzle film, heady intellectual dialogue. It also has a certain 'at home' feel for me because the characters act and talk a hell of a lot like my cousin, who was my best friend growing up. It's probably the perfect example of a movie I can watch on repeat for the rest of my life without ever getting bored. For those reasons, it's a masterpiece in my book.

[MovieGal]

You want to see a cinematic masterpiece... watch "La Belle et La Bete" from 1946 directed by Jean Cocteau. THAT is a masterpiece.. so visually stunning. It is decades before its time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=261QkzI23IQ

[Swan]

That is a great movie. One of Guillermo del Toro's favorites.

[MovieGal]

That is a great movie. One of Guillermo del Toro's favorites.

I would say its the only film I give 9/10 to.... maybe a 9.25/10.. not many get even that high of a rating from me...

[sickgirl]

Anything with Clint Eastwood in it is a masterpiece. Even that Pink Cadillac piece of crap.

[sickgirl]

Sorry, I can't sleep. I haven't even seen all of his movies BUT STILL!!!!

[rauldc14]

Anything with Clint Eastwood in it is a masterpiece. Even that Pink Cadillac piece of crap.

Another Eastwood fan! Sweet!

What have u seen?

[MovieGal]

Has anyone seen "Russian Ark"?.. its also a visual masterpiece....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J--TDEHizVA

[Sexy Celebrity]

I've heard of it.

[MovieGal]

I've heard of it.


Have you seen it?

[bluedeed]

Seen it, love it

[Cobpyth]

I would say its the only film I give 9/10 to.... maybe a 9.25/10.. not many get even that high of a rating from me...

You're too strict, but I already said that. :p

Like Bluedeed, I use the term pretty loosely. Every film that has a strong and lasting effect on me and that I respect a lot for its technical and narrative quality could be called a masterpiece by me.
A masterpiece is a piece of film that is so extremely well made that it automatically makes me assume that it's a consummation of the mind of a complete master of the cinematic arts, someone who just knows how to make a fantastic movie.

[sickgirl]

Another Eastwood fan! Sweet!

What have u seen?

Hang Em High, Dirty Harry, Magnum Force, A Fistful of Dollars and Pink Cadillac.
Not a lot BUT I'M WORKING ON IT. I haven't actually seen a lot of movies in general to be honest mostly because I wasn't interested much in movies up until like 4 months ago but yeah, I dunno. What about you, what have you seen??

[sickgirl]

I need to be up in like 2 hours but I can't sleep ):

[MovieGal]

You're too strict, but I already said that. :p

Like Bluedeed, I use the term pretty loosely. Every film that has a strong and lasting effect on me and that I respect a lot for its technical and narrative quality could be called a masterpiece by me.
A masterpiece is a piece of film that is so extremely well made that it automatically makes me assume that it's a consummation of the mind of a complete master of the cinematic arts, someone who just knows how to make a fantastic movie.


There are many great films.. but masterpieces.. not to many...

do you like french cinema?

"Anatomy of Hell" directed by Catherine Breillat is a great film. Its one of my favorites.. but its not a visual masterpiece.

[seanc]

You looking forward to Jersey Boys Rauldc? I can't wait. I have watched a couple of decent blockbusters this summer but I am looking forward to a smaller film among all the big stuff that summer brings.

[bluedeed]

You're too strict, but I already said that. :p

I just set up a criticker account yesterday, and one of the things I like about it is that it sort of curves your rating system. Some people like to give out "stricter" ratings, but when it comes down to it, we are generally placing movies into different tiers, a 9 for MovieGal could be a 10 for you, one is "stricter" but they mean the same thing.

[MovieGal]

I just set up a criticker account yesterday, and one of the things I like about it is that it sort of curves your rating system. Some people like to give out "stricter" ratings, but when it comes down to it, we are generally placing movies into different tiers, a 9 for MovieGal could be a 10 for you, one is "stricter" but they mean the same thing.

He likes to tease me about my ratings... I enjoy many films.. I have seen way to many films in my life.... most are just average... I havent had a "wow" film in a very long time.. perhaps its from watching so many....

I remember one week we went to the theatre 8 times in 7 days... and that was many moons ago.. I can only remember one film from that week.. and it was a very good drama...

[Nostromo87]

thanks for the explanations raul, swan, cobpyth, bluedeed, and whoever else i missed. i agree there should be a sense of technical wizardry to go along with a compelling narrative

for whatever it's worth,
when i think of the idea 'masterpiece'
i instantly think of these two guys ↓↓

http://oi62.tinypic.com/s286df.jpg

and their best music. mozart. beethoven. and the sensation of experiencing their best work. and i think that for a movie to be a masterpiece, there should be an incredible force underneath the picture. like an undercurrent. an understanding of humanity and a profound power... perhaps a worldview, a mindblowing one

once i get going on this it's hard to stop rambling. but that's why i think the Shining (1980) by Kubrick is a masterpiece. people go cuckoo on the conspiracy side of things with that movie, but even beyond the surface of a compelling and excellent flick... i begin to notice pieces of a worldview... that come from Stanley Kubrick, and from a personal place. i know many people think of him as cold, distant, & inhuman. yet with that movie i began to catch glimpses of his grande vision. moreso than his other films i've seen so far

then again, at the same time, i love a Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) too much to not call it a masterpiece. and there's probly not too much profound about that, other than loving the idea of a spirit nightmare dude who can navigate from dreamworld to reality. so who knows what i'm talking about

[Swan]

A masterpiece is a piece of film that is so extremely well made that it automatically makes me assume that it's a consummation of the mind of a complete master of the cinematic arts, someone who just knows how to make a fantastic movie.

thanks for the explanations raul, swan, cobpyth, bluedeed, and whoever else i missed. i agree there should be a sense of technical wizardry to go along with a compelling narrative

for whatever it's worth, when i think of the idea 'masterpiece' i instantly think of these two guys ↓↓ and their best music

http://oi62.tinypic.com/s286df.jpg

mozart. beethoven. and the sensation of experiencing their best work. and i think that for a movie to be a masterpiece, there has to be that kind of an incredible force underneath the picture. like an undercurrent. an understanding of humanity and a profound power... perhaps a worldview, a mindblowing one

once i get going on this it's hard to stop rambling. but that's why i think the Shining (1980) by Kubrick is a masterpiece. people go cuckoo on the conspiracy side of things with that movie, but even beyond the surface of a compelling and excellent flick... i begin to notice pieces of a worldview... that come from Stanley Kubrick, and from a personal place. i know many people think of him as cold, distant, & inhuman. yet with that movie i began to catch glimpses of his grande vision. moreso than his other films i've seen so far

then again, at the same time, i love a Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) too much to not call it a masterpiece. and there's probly not too much profound about that, other than loving the idea of a spirit nightmare dude who can navigate from dreamworld to reality. so who knows what i'm talking about

These are both good descriptions of what a masterpiece is.

[rauldc14]

Hang Em High, Dirty Harry, Magnum Force, A Fistful of Dollars and Pink Cadillac.
Not a lot BUT I'M WORKING ON IT. I haven't actually seen a lot of movies in general to be honest mostly because I wasn't interested much in movies up until like 4 months ago but yeah, I dunno. What about you, what have you seen??

Films he's directed that I've seen
Play Misty for Me
Pale Rider
The Outlaw Josey Wales
Changeling
Letters from Iwo Jima
Mystic River
Unforgiven
Gran Torino
Million Dollar Baby

Love them all.

Plus I've seen The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly and Dirty Harry.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Have you seen it?

No.

[rauldc14]

You looking forward to Jersey Boys Rauldc? I can't wait. I have watched a couple of decent blockbusters this summer but I am looking forward to a smaller film among all the big stuff that summer brings.

Eh, I'm not pumped for it, but I will give it a watch. I hope it's great though.

[Swan]

Films he's directed that I've seen
Play Misty for Me
Pale Rider
The Outlaw Josey Wales
Changeling
Letters from Iwo Jima
Mystic River
Unforgiven
Gran Torino
Million Dollar Baby

Love them all.

Plus I've seen The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly and Dirty Harry.

You've got to see The Beguiled, raul! That's my fave of his.

[rauldc14]

I know I really do. I have so much to see yet, which I'm ok with since he's my second favorite director already.

[Swan]

Who's your first?

[MovieGal]

talking about Masterpieces in Cinema.. has anyone seen Malle's "Black Moon" (1975)? a Masterpiece in Avant Garde

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXvo7U4kDwg

[rauldc14]

Who's your first?

Hitchcock

[Swan]

Hitchcock

Good pick.

[rauldc14]

Yeah, I truly like all bit one of the films of his I've seen. Once I see more of Eastwoods I'll submit a write up for the director fan club thread.

[Skepsis93]

The "masterpiece argument" is interesting. The term is such a vague one that everyone has assigned it their own personal meaning. For me, like a lot of others it seems, I can't call a film a masterpiece unless it has employed technical mastery to hit me on a deeper emotional level. The former alone doesn't seem enough to me.

But everyone has their own definitions, and there's something to be said for considering the intentions of the filmmaker/artist/writer/whatever. If they want only to display technical proficiency without the pretense of affecting us emotionally, should the masterpiece tag be available to apply to that work? Dick Cavett once asked Orson Welles if anybody had ever made a pornographic masterpiece. Here's his answer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jBrhI_qqAY

Sidenote: That entire interview is well worth watching if you get the time. It's all on YouTube. Aside from anything else, Welles is just a pleasure to listen to and he and Cavett seem to have a good rapport.

[Swan]

Orson Welles is the coolest.

[rauldc14]

What are u all up to today? Im grilling shishkabobs.

Still keeping my fingers crossed that i get a call for an interview in the next couple weeks too.

[seanc]

Thinking about what's for dinner and then Game 3 later on.

[MovieGal]

Hi Everyone... whats going on?

[Godoggo]

Big huge spider on my living room floor, that's what's going on. I'm ok with spideys on the outside, but I do not like them coming in. Now I'm going to think about it when I go to sleep.

[rauldc14]

Spider? What spider? :p

[rauldc14]

I went to sleep an hour ago and i am back up. This is just strange.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Go back to bed.

[honeykid]

I went to sleep an hour ago and i am back up. This is just strange.
Hate when that happens. I do that once or twice a month recently. It really ****s up my sleep pattern.

[Daniel M]

Had my hair cut yesterday, watching a few films today, going back down to Cardiff tomorrow, watching the World Cup opener, then on Friday going out with my flat mates to my University summer ball. So, a good week :)

[MovieGal]

I hope everyone is having a better day than I am.... in the hospital. Have had chest pains for 2 days and my doctor sent me to the ER. Tons of cardiac tests ugh...

[rauldc14]

I hope everyone is having a better day than I am.... in the hospital. Have had chest pains for 2 days and my doctor sent me to the ER. Tons of cardiac tests ugh...

Get well soon

[honeykid]

Hang in there, honey. Hope it all turns out OK. :)

[Swan]

I hope everyone is having a better day than I am.... in the hospital. Have had chest pains for 2 days and my doctor sent me to the ER. Tons of cardiac tests ugh...

Oh no! I hope you're okay.

[Swan]

I just got Jack White's new album and the first song is called Three Women. :laugh:

[Skepsis93]

Had my hair cut yesterday, watching a few films today, going back down to Cardiff tomorrow, watching the World Cup opener, then on Friday going out with my flat mates to my University summer ball. So, a good week :)

nobody cares

[Daniel M]

nobody cares

don't hate because you aint

[Captain Spaulding]

I just got Jack White's new album and the first song is called Three Women. :laugh:

:highfive:

You just got cooler in my book, Swan. Are you a big fan of Jack White? I don't even have his first solo album yet (shame on me), but I'm a big fan of The White Stripes and his work with The Dead Weather and, to a lesser extent, the Raconteurs.

[Swan]

:highfive:

You just got cooler in my book, Swan. Are you a big fan of Jack White? I don't even have his first solo album yet (shame on me), but I'm a big fan of The White Stripes and his work with The Dead Weather and, to a lesser extent, the Raconteurs.

Oh yeah. Been a big fan since I first got Elephant around age... 11? Some time around then.

[Swan]

Looks like one of the textbooks required for the film class I'm taking is Film Art: An Introduction by David Bordwell. This is exciting, I've heard good things about Bordwell and this book.

[MovieGal]

Home from the hospital... all my test results look good.. they wanted to make sure that it wasnt my heart.... my father's family has a big history of heart disease as well as lung cancer. I thought it was skeletomuscular but the doctor didnt want to take any chances. Worst thing ever is morphine put into your system..

[Swan]

Glad to hear you're okay, MovieGal.

[MovieGal]

Someone was talking about Nathan Fillion's "Castle" in another thread and a video popped into my brain.... has anyone ever seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzNMtGx_cZc

[Daniel M]

Looks like one of the textbooks required for the film class I'm taking is Film Art: An Introduction by David Bordwell. This is exciting, I've heard good things about Bordwell and this book.

Skepsis does film studies and pretty sure he has read the same and they use a lot of Bordwell. Read some of his stuff online, Bluedeed has linked him a few times before too.

[Swan]

Is Skepsis majoring in Film Studies? I think that's what my major is going to be.

It's no ACCOUNTING or SYSTEM BUSINESS MANAGEMENT, but that's where my interest lies.

[Skepsis93]

Skepsis does film studies and pretty sure he has read the same and they use a lot of Bordwell. Read some of his stuff online, Bluedeed has linked him a few times before too.

Yup, that book is invaluable when you're first starting out, and I still go back to it regularly. Let me know if I can give you any tips, Swan - I'm no expert, but after three years in Film Studies I feel like I have a decent awareness of the major scholars both for general analysis and in a good variety of more specific areas. I've also built up a vaguely decent library of journal articles from which I'd be happy to share as well, if you don't already get access to the databases with the course you're taking - though I assume you do if you're enrolled at a University. What's the class on?

[honeykid]

Home from the hospital... all my test results look good.. they wanted to make sure that it wasnt my heart.... my father's family has a big history of heart disease as well as lung cancer. I thought it was skeletomuscular but the doctor didnt want to take any chances. Worst thing ever is morphine put into your system..
Glad you're back and everything's fine. :)

I take it the morphine made you feel sick?

[Cobpyth]

I wish I could turn back in time for three years and rethink my choice of study. :p

Oh well, maybe I'll take an evening class on film or something after I've finally graduated in Applied Economic Science - Marketing...

I'm learning Economic French at the moment.

Je le déteste!

[Skepsis93]

I wish I could turn back in time for three years and rethink my choice of study. :p

Oh well, maybe I'll take an evening class on film or something after I've finally graduated in Applied Economic Science - Marketing...

I'm learning Economic French at the moment.

Je le déteste!

merde

[Swan]

Cool. Who are your favorite scholars on film? Here's a description of the class, it's pretty basic (I imagine I'll pass with flying colors).

"Introduces students to the history of film, film technology, various film styles, genres, and movements, as well as helping them develop and apply a knowledge of film terminology and theories to critically analyze American and international cinema."

[Skepsis93]

Cool. Who are your favorite scholars on film? Here's a description of the class, it's pretty basic (I imagine I'll pass with flying colors).

"Introduces students to the history of film, film technology, various film styles, genres, and movements, as well as helping them develop and apply a knowledge of film terminology and theories to critically analyze American and international cinema."

Bordwell/Thompson (and their individual work), Pam Cook (The Cinema Book is another film student bible), Richard Dyer, Rick Altman, Richard Maltby, Steve Neale, Graham Roberts & Heather Wallis (Introducing Film is another great introductory book), Laura Mulvey, Robert Kolker (check out A Cinema of Loneliness if you want to write about New Hollywood), Donald Richie (for Asian cinemas), Andrew Sarris and Pauline Kael (famous for their biting war of words over Auteur theory) and Noel Burch have all been hugely helpful to me at various times. I'm missing quite a few I'm sure, but those are the ones that I've enjoyed reading and that came up most often in a quick perusal of my various essays over the past few years.

One of my favourite things about film studies is its interdisciplinary nature. Obviously I love film and that's the main reason for choosing it, but I've learned so much not just about movies, but about all the things cinema portrays. Researching my papers has led me at various times to material on sociology, geography, history, anthropology, architecture, art history, psychology, literature and a bunch of others. If you ask me, if you do decide to major in the subject, you'll be making a great choice. :)

[Swan]

Nice, that's a lot of people to check out. I have a book by Pauline Kael, she's great.

Did you have to read any Andre Bazin? I have two books by him that I've skimmed through. I imagine I'll be more interested in his work when I watch more Italian Neorealism.

[Skepsis93]

Did you have to read any Andre Bazin? I have two books by him that I've skimmed through. I imagine I'll be more interested in his work when I watch more Italian Neorealism.

Not enough. I read "On the politique des auteurs" when I was working on a bibliography on Auteurism but not much else so far.

[MovieGal]

Glad you're back and everything's fine. :)

I take it the morphine made you feel sick?

they do a MONA treatment for heart patients... Morphine, Oxygen, Nitro and Aspirin... the Morphine felt weird going in and felt like heavy pressure on my chest......

[Daniel M]

Reading your posts Skepsis makes me wish I was doing film studies at university, just sounds so much more fun :( I own "What Is Cinema?", both volumes, that is a compilation of Bazin essays, Swan. Not read much of it yet though.

[Swan]

Reading your posts Skepsis makes me wish I was doing film studies at university, just sounds so much more fun :( I own "What Is Cinema?", both volumes, that is a compilation of Bazin essays, Swan. Not read much of it yet though.

Yeah that's what I own, too. But like you I haven't read much of it.

[Daniel M]

I think it has different sections regarding different periods of cinema, like chapters on silent cinema, Chaplin. What I want to do over time is buy different books and read different essays/reviews relevant to different time periods and slices of cinema, and try and become well versed in as many different parts of it as I can, as there's so much great stuff to explore. The great thing is you can teach yourself I guess, and every film you watch helps you and you're learning along the way. I really want to be involved in something to do with films in the future, not exactly sure why I'm doing Business Information Systems (it's like Computer Science), although I don't dislike it :p

[rauldc14]

Got a call back today for the loan officer position to set up an interview! I am happy and nervous all in the same!

[Swan]

Congrats raul!

[bluedeed]

I think it has different sections regarding different periods of cinema, like chapters on silent cinema, Chaplin. What I want to do over time is buy different books and read different essays/reviews relevant to different time periods and slices of cinema, and try and become well versed in as many different parts of it as I can, as there's so much great stuff to explore. The great thing is you can teach yourself I guess, and every film you watch helps you and you're learning along the way. I really want to be involved in something to do with films in the future, not exactly sure why I'm doing Business Information Systems (it's like Computer Science), although I don't dislike it :p

My opinion (and experience) is that with both film studies and especially Computer Science, the schooling is way far behind what is actually happening. Most of the important film criticism of the past century was informal, and it didn't really happen very much until well past the mid-century mark, and computer science has just developed too fast to keep up with properly. Both of those seem to be among the best and easiest fields to study independently of formal education. I'm minorimg in Computer Science at school, but basically to give me discipline that I wouldn't have via self-teaching. I've had one film class in college, but I learned far more on my own that semester than I did in that class.

[Swan]

I imagine film classes can only bolster your film education. I want to continue studying film, as well as develop and refine my skills in writing on cinema. Because film is my greatest passion, I don't want to study something else and have that consume my time, and have to put my film education by the wayside. I want it to be my #1 priority.

Therefore, I think it will be a good choice for me.

[bluedeed]

I imagine film classes can only bolster your film education. I want to continue studying film, as well as develop and refine my skills in writing on cinema. Because film is my greatest passion, I don't want to study something else and have that consume my time, and have to put my film education by the wayside. I want it to be my #1 priority.

Therefore, I think it will be a good choice for me.

Of course education can (in most cases) only improve your knowledge and abilities. Do you go to school for film now, or are you planning on it? I would love to study film, but an academic career never appealed to me and I wasn't sure what else I'd do with a film related degree so I chose a different, extremely similar major, chemical engineering. While film is one of my deepest passions, like Daniel, I also really enjoy what I'm doing in school in addition to my film related activities.

[Swan]

Planning on it.

[rauldc14]

What a great day

[Dog Star Man]

Good to be back after some hiatus. How are all you "MoFo's" doing these days? Between the last time I was here and now, I was smoking five packs a day, (now quit the junk all together for a year now), and I'm headed back into college for a masters in Film and English, and (down the road when I chew on those for awhile), a degree in Mathematics. All things well here. (And btw, I LOVE the new site reboot! Amazing looking). Take care friends! Now I'm off to watch me a Movie!

[justine]

I'm in too. Ps Business management is a decent degree.

[Godoggo]

Hey Dog! It's been awhile since we've seen you. Glad to hear your doing well and have quit the cigs.

[Godoggo]

Got a call back today for the loan officer position to set up an interview! I am happy and nervous all in the same!

Good for you! And once you do one interview and survive it, you'll have the confidence to put yourself out there for more. Or you may just land it the first time out. :) Good luck! :)