What are you doing at this very moment?

[jrs]

About to make some DVD covers.

[nebbit]

I'm thinking about getting my rocks off with nebbit right f'in NOW!

http://www.smiliemania.de/smilie132/00001639.gif

[Tacitus]

Wondering.

It's a traditional English dessert, my dear...

Never knew I had a crystal ball, did ya? It makes a funny noise when I run with change in my pocket. :rolleyes:

[Anonymous Last]

To those little pebbles trying to wiggle me in.
I'm thinking about getting my rocks off with Anonymous Last right f'in NOW!


:D
One crazy ass post and MoFo is hizzahooked! Toose has spoken... and Last, he hath listened. When the two of us (You and I *busted out in song with a deep voice*) are all finished, well and done and you show me the door with the proper bus fare... do you accept Paypal or is this a strictly unmarked cash deal?

Toose, for a very brief second I thought, "WTF?"

I think you want the "I Love You, [username]" thread, buster. :DWoo Ha! Just be glad that we have not started a "Post Yourself Too Sexy For This Board" thread....

We all lose.

[chicagofrog]

just finished the last sentence of the last page of the last translation before my trip to Trentin. eyah!

[ross]

I'm thinking about posting a topic as usual :D

[nebbit]

http://bestsmileys.com/eating1/7.gif

[SamsoniteDelilah]

It's a traditional English dessert, my dear...
ha! ok.

Never knew I had a crystal ball, did ya? It makes a funny noise when I run with change in my pocket. :rolleyes:
:rotfl:

[John McClane]

Going to bed. I got a 10 mile hike tomorrow. Woot!

[birdygyrl]

Watching In the Mood For Love. When I'm done I'm moving on to The Pianist.

[Tacitus]

Fiddling about with the new Beta of Windows Vista. Ho-hum, it's a flippin' great nanny of an OS...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/greenspagbol/vista.jpg

[7thson]

The new O.S will obviously have some "out of the gate" issues, but once all is said and done I think it is a solid operating system. I have toyed around with it for some time now and with the exception of a few driver issues (which is always an issue with ANY new O.S.) I think it will be a defintie necessity to any of us who want to progress with the rest of the world in terms of technology and the internet/computing. I am not a big windows fan in general, but seriously once this is fine tuned it is going to be a fun ride.

[SamsoniteDelilah]

Fiddling about with the new Beta of Windows Vista. Ho-hum, it's a flippin' great nanny of an OS...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/greenspagbol/vista.jpg
What's your desktop, sweets?

[Tacitus]

What's your desktop, sweets?

Lord knows. :D

It's one of the default Vista wallpapers - some of which are quite groovy. The other thing is the new Media Player 11, which is basically a slower running iTunes.

It's only a Beta, I guess, so still in developmant but I can see no great leap forward from XP. It's got rid of the poxy Lego user interface though... ;)

[Ophelia]

Swallowing oil paint.

[7thson]

Swallowing oil paint.


Uh..why?

[SamsoniteDelilah]

Lord knows. :D

It's one of the default Vista wallpapers - some of which are quite groovy. The other thing is the new Media Player 11, which is basically a slower running iTunes.

It's only a Beta, I guess, so still in developmant but I can see no great leap forward from XP. It's got rid of the poxy Lego user interface though... ;)
It looks like my route to work. :D

[Ophelia]

Uh..why?

I was painting, oil on fingers....etc etc. yum yum. la la la.

[allthatglitters]

I was painting, oil on fingers....etc etc. yum yum. la la la.
Painting? That's funny, because that's what I am more or less doing (I am waiting for this layer to dry. Crappy thing about water colors. . .)

[jrs]

Getting rid of unwanted spyware on computer. :sick:

[John McClane]

Waiting for someone to get service so they can call me. :(

[Escape]

Listening to "The Darkness....."One way ticket to hell and back"

So far, i'm not liking it. :sick:

[John McClane]

Just received such said call. Talked to her for about 16 minutes but, she was all talked out from her other friends so we called it quits. It was the first time I had heard her voice as well.

[ash_is_the_gal]

someone should scratch my back.... i looovvee getting my back scratched... i love it almost more than, well you know.

actually i am always scratching everyone elses back... cause i have good nails for that type of thing. my sister used to bribe me when we were kids, she'd say things like "if you scratch my back for ten minutes ill play barbies with you." and whenever i go over to her house today she still does the same thing except its a bit more tactful.

[nebbit]

Just arrived home after a weekend away :D

[undercoverlover]

buying dvds on ebay

[jrs]

Checking out DVD releases.

[John McClane]

Kind of watching a movie. My mom made me go out to get something so it just kind of killed the mood.

[Caitlyn]

Playing on-li.... I mean working.... :p

[Equilibrium]

chillin like a villain

[jrs]

Checkin' out Universal Studio Home Entertainment's retailer site for updates.

[Austruck]

Watching the season 3 opener of "Deadwood," and loving it. (Second viewing. Saw it last night too.) It's one of the most quotable shows I've seen (aside from the f***in' obscenities every five f***in' seconds.)

[John McClane]

Wondering if a girl is pulling the "I like this guy, but I really mean you trick" or if she really does like another guy. Lol. Oh well, we're just friends right now and we'll see what happens.

[allthatglitters]

cursing creativity

[nebbit]

http://bestsmileys.com/drinking/1.gif

[Tacitus]

Watching the season 3 opener of "Deadwood," and loving it. (Second viewing. Saw it last night too.) It's one of the most quotable shows I've seen (aside from the f***in' obscenities every five f***in' seconds.)

Sock cooker!

I've been getting withdrawal symptoms since S2 ended and will probably have to wait until it's DVD release as it'll be tucked away on Rupert Murdoch's execrable pay channels.

Trixie's from Belfast, doncha know? ;)

[John McClane]

Had a guy hit on me in my local Belk store the yesterday. It was weird since I'm use to girls doing it but, not even they do it that often. Lol.

Just woke up and I'm talking to a friend.

[nebbit]

Working on my husbands computer as mine is in the sick computer store :bawling:

[birdygyrl]

Counting the minutes til I am done at work and can go home! Thank God for MoFo. I'd be going stir crazy.........

[John McClane]

Waiting for a txt message.

[Purandara88]

Watching the Braves squander yet another scoring opportunity.

[7thson]

The curse of the L.O.B., the Ex-Fulton county stadium soldiers couldnt shrug this off when they moved.


Right now I am deciding if I am going to work tommorow or not. I have a lot to do, but man I need some off time. Oh well I will probably work, customers come first.

[Purandara88]

Hmm, well, at least they still have a chance. Atlanta gets more timely 6-4-3's than any tea has a right to. They've won at least a hundred games over the last decade and half solely because they always seem to get the DP when they really need it.

Except this year.

[7thson]

Hey no arguments here, I have been a Braves fan since forever. I just know that over the years I have seen more men stranded on base than any other team.

[Purandara88]

Well, I think every fan feels that way, since, you know, they don't watch that many games from other teams.

But yeah, the Braves do leave a lot of men on, simply because they've tended to build their offense around home run hitters and Bobby Cox hates to run.

[Yoda]

Agree with the comment about home run hitters, but not this one...

and Bobby Cox hates to run.
Atlanta's rankings out of 16 NL teams in SB:

2005: 6th
2004: 9th
2003: 13th
2002: 12th
2001: 10th
2000: 2nd
1999: 6th
1998: 7th
1997: 11th
1996: 14th
1995: 12th
1994: 13th
1993: 6th
1992: 7th
1991: 3rd
I don't know if Bobby Cox "hates" to run in the sense that I "hate" broccoli, but clearly he does run if and when he has the right players (Otis Nixon in the early 90s, a fleeter Andruw Jones in the late 90s, and Rafael Furcal in the early aughts).

Anyway, it's a bit sad to see Atlanta's reign come to an end the way it has (or will, shortly), but it was truly remarkable despite its anticlimatic ending. It was inevitable that a team like the Mets or Phils were going to throw around enough cash (at enough players worthy of said cash, this time) to supplant them.

[7thson]

The focus on the pitching has actually been why the Braves have been successful, or should I say unsuccessful? Dale Murphy, Chris Chambliss, Niekro, Glen H. heh these were the days, too bad Torre couldnt close... I actually think the Braves are not done with their amazing run, two years and they will be back....Cox or not.

[Purandara88]

Agree with the comment about home run hitters, but not this one...


Atlanta's rankings out of 16 NL teams in SB:


2005: 6th
2004: 9th
2003: 13th
2002: 12th
2001: 10th
2000: 2nd
1999: 6th
1998: 7th
1997: 11th
1996: 14th
1995: 12th
1994: 13th
1993: 6th
1992: 7th
1991: 3rd
I don't know if Bobby Cox "hates" to run in the sense that I "hate" broccoli, but clearly he does run if and when he has the right players (Otis Nixon in the early 90s, a fleeter Andruw Jones in the late 90s, and Rafael Furcal in the early aughts).



There's a difference between being willing to let bona fide base stealers swipe a base and being willing to RUN. He doesn't do the kind of situational running (hit and run, steals with guys who aren't pure base stealers) that managers who are looking to manufacture runs use.


And, of course, a lot of that is dictated by the kind of players they built the club around (not always, contact hitters, ya know), so they have been limited in their options. But you build a roster around your philosophy, so it's a chicken and egg sort of situation.

[Purandara88]

The focus on the pitching has actually been why the Braves have been successful, or should I say unsuccessful? Dale Murphy, Chris Chambliss, Niekro, Glen H. heh these were the days, too bad Torre couldnt close... I actually think the Braves are not done with their amazing run, two years and they will be back....Cox or not.

I was one of the about 7,000 people there at old Fulton County when the Murph hit his 300th against the Pirates.

[Yoda]

There's a difference between being willing to let bona fide base stealers swipe a base and being willing to RUN. He doesn't do the kind of situational running (hit and run, steals with guys who aren't pure base stealers) that managers who are looking to manufacture runs use.
In the case of Nixon, that certainly applies, but Furcal is borderline (fast, but not a born basetstealer, I don't think), and Jones certainly isn't a specialty player.

It is interesting to see that Cox has been willing to increase his emphasis on the running game over the last couple of seasons as the team's ability to keep its power hitters has diminshed.

And, of course, a lot of that is dictated by the kind of players they built the club around (not always, contact hitters, ya know), so they have been limited in their options. But you build a roster around your philosophy, so it's a chicken and egg sort of situation.
Yeah, it's hard to know whether the roster is catered to the manager, or the other way around. I'm guessing, with someone like Cox, who's been there since '91, we can probably assume he has quite a bit of input into what sort of player Schuerholz is acquiring.

For the record, if that is, in fact, his philosophy (deemphasis on stealing and/or the hit-and-run), it's the correct one.

[Yoda]

In the case of Nixon, that certainly applies, but Furcal is borderline (fast, but not a born basestealer, I don't think), and Jones certainly isn't a specialty player.
I take this back, actually; Furcal could be characterized as a born basestealer.

What I find more interesting is the larger decline of basestealing in general. The modest increase in basestealing we've seen in Atlanta at times in the late 90s, and again in the last couple of years, is all the more noteworthy as the rest of the league in general trends away from it.

The lack of steals in the league today makes it somewhat difficult to quantify (or disprove) any statement about a manager's affinity or distaste for the running game, as no manager is going to tell someone like Furcal or Nixon he cannot run, and stealing in general is rare enough that just one such player is enough to give a team a middle-of-the-order ranking in steals. Cox might be growing fonder of the steal, or he might just be smart enough not to discourage it in players who do it particularly well. Which is certainly the smart thing to do once you have such a player. Of course, the smartest thing to is not necessarily accquire such a player in the first place.

[Golgot]

Heheheh. Yods talking to himself. Yoda, 7th and Purandara all talking to each other. Me not understanding anything. I'm loving this thread :D

Altho step into the World Cup thread y'all ;) - I know the US got taken down, but there's plenty more gale-force nonsense in store (this side of the plate ;))

[Purandara88]

Yoda,

Andruw isn't a 'specialty' base stealer because he was never allowed to be. He was probably the fastest player in the game when he broke in, but his opportunities were limited by the reluctance to run on the part of Cox and his own low OBP. I think his best year was like 26 or 27 steals (in 97 or 98, I can't remember), back when he was hitting in the 5 or 6 slot. I will say that Bobby's reluctance to run has probably been the right strategy for the regular season, but it has really hurt Atlanta in the post season, when scratching out runs can be the difference between winning and going home.

[Purandara88]

The biggest weakness, however, has been Bobby's disdain for the closer position and his belief that you're better off with control pitchers. Nibbling doesn't work in October, which is why John Smoltz was always their best big game pitcher.

[Yoda]

Andruw isn't a 'specialty' base stealer because he was never allowed to be. He was probably the fastest player in the game when he broke in, but his opportunities were limited by the reluctance to run on the part of Cox and his own low OBP.
Jones was certainly not the fastest player in the game when he broke in ('97). He was up against the likes of Luis Castillo and Tony Womack (who led the league in steals). And OBP wouldn't be the difference-maker, either, as Womack got on base less often (.326 to .329).

I think his best year was like 26 or 27 steals (in 97 or 98, I can't remember), back when he was hitting in the 5 or 6 slot. I will say that Bobby's reluctance to run has probably been the right strategy for the regular season, but it has really hurt Atlanta in the post season, when scratching out runs can be the difference between winning and going home.
Yep, 27, in a 1998.

Regarding the postseason: it's not that the strategy is good in one context but not another. It's always the right strategy; it's just that it needs the length of the MLB season to even out its inconsistencies. Statistically speaking, it's superior, and gives a team which employs it the best chance to win. But the playoffs are so horrendously short compared to the regular season that they might as well be a crapshoot (notice the frequency with which Wild Card teams manage to win the World Series).

Granted, games are going to tend to be a bit closer in the playoffs, if only because every team you play in the postseason is going to be competent, but baseball's talent disparities in general are much smaller than in any other major sport to begin with, so I doubt that would be enough to change the wisdom of the old Earl Weaver walk/single/three-run homer ethos.

[Purandara88]

Jones was certainly not the fastest player in the game when he broke in ('97). He was up against the likes of Luis Castillo and Tony Womack (who led the league in steals).

At that point, Jones was clearly faster than either of those guys, his range was unbelievable.

And OBP wouldn't be the difference-maker, either, as Womack got on base less often (.326 to .329).

Yeah, but he was a leadoff hitter, so he had a lot more AB's. He had 25 more hits and walks than Andruw in '98, and he had the green light to run.

Granted, games are going to tend to be a bit closer in the playoffs, if only because every team you play in the postseason is going to be competent, but baseball's talent disparities in general are much smaller than in any other major sport to begin with, so I doubt that would be enough to change the wisdom of the old Earl Weaver walk/single/three-run homer ethos.

Like I said, the biggest weakness in Bobby's strategy in postseason play has been his belief that the bullpen is mostly irrelevant and that you win with control pitchers. If you look at the recent WS winners, having staffs that come after you with fastballs is the one common denominator.

[Yoda]

At that point, Jones was clearly faster than either of those guys, his range was unbelievable.
Defensive range is not the prime indicator of speed. Jones' range has as much do to the tremendous jump he gets on the ball, and his unbelievable dexterity, as it does with his speed. This is quite evident today, as he's put on a considerable amount of weight and still excels in the field.

Anyway, I was following baseball intensely at the time, and Jones was never mentioned among baseball's fastest players. Do you have any sort of source or evidence to support the claim?

Yeah, but he was a leadoff hitter, so he had a lot more AB's. He had 25 more hits and walks than Andruw in '98, and he had the green light to run.
25 more is almost negligible over the course of a season, especially when you consider that Womack had twice as many steals in both '97 and '98. To cap things off, Womack tripled Jones' total in 1999, despite the fact that Jones had 17 more hits and walks.

I also don't know how you'd ascertain that Womack had a "green light" to run. I followed the Pirates avidly that season (it was quite a remarkable year for the Bucs) and don't recall anything to indicate that. It was Womack's first season, just as it was Jones', so the safer assumption would probably be that neither had a "green light," which is something more likely to be reserved for veterans.

Jones had one year in the minors in which he stole a significant number of bases (56, with A-class Macon). Womack and Castillo both stole vociferously at every level of professional baseball. The fastest players are almost invariably allowed to run; especially in the minors, where stolen bases are much more commonplace. If Jones were as fast as you'd say, we'd probably have a great deal more evidence of it from his early years.

Like I said, the biggest weakness in Bobby's strategy in postseason play has been his belief that the bullpen is mostly irrelevant and that you win with control pitchers. If you look at the recent WS winners, having staffs that come after you with fastballs is the one common denominator.
Well, I certainly agree that bullpens, which are fairly important during the season, become of tantamount importance in the playoffs. I'm a bit skeptical in regards to the fastball claim; if there is a correlation, I don't think it's above and beyond the general correlation between good pitchers and fastballs, but I wouldn't be shocked either way.

Regardless, the Braves have won just a single title through Cox's tenure, despite contending every year and having a flamethrowing Mark Wohlers to rely on, so I don't think that's been what's held them back.

I think luck plays a greater part in the postseason than anyone would really like to admit. Cox's overall postseason strategy seems pretty sound; he's been to five World Series, won one ('95), lost a stunningly tight one ('91), lost two close ones ('92 and '95), and was swept in 1999. I think he was two or three ballgames away from heading a bonafide dynasty.

[Purandara88]

Defensive range is not the prime indicator of speed. Jones' range has as much do to the tremendous jump he gets on the ball, and his unbelievable dexterity, as it does with his speed. This is quite evident today, as he's put on a considerable amount of weight and still excels in the field.

I've been watching him since he came up, his range is massively reduced from what it was in the mid-late 90s, when he was probably the best defensive outfielder in the history of the game (that he remains far and away the most intimidating defensive presence in baseball, despite losing 3 steps, is a testament to just how transcendent his talent really is).

In any event, range, especially outfield range, is absolutely the best measure of pure speed that baseball has. Stolen bases are far too contingent on other factors.

25 more is almost negligible over the course of a season, especially when you consider that Womack had twice as many steals in both '97 and '98. To cap things off, Womack tripled Jones' total in 1999, despite the fact that Jones had 17 more hits and walks.

'99 was the first year that Andruw really started gaining weight (my guess: 'roids, keep in mind that '98 was the year that really kicked off the modern steroids era).

It's worth noting that in 1998, the year before Andruw began to put on weight and his speed declined, he had 8 triples to Womack's 7 (usually a very good indicator of pure speed).

I also don't know how you'd ascertain that Womack had a "green light" to run.

Managers generally green light 1-2 hitters if they've got the speed.

Jones had one year in the minors in which he stole a significant number of bases (56, with A-class Macon).

Jones also hit in the middle of the lineup at every stage. No one runs as much with their cleanup guy as they do with their leadoff guy.

The fastest players are almost invariably allowed to run; especially in the minors, where stolen bases are much more commonplace.

Not if they're middle of the order guys. The game just isn't played that way.

However, here's probably the best evidence of Bobby Cox's reluctance to run:

Deion Sanders was in the early 90s the fastest man in the NFL, which certainly makes him faster than any baseball player of his time. I think we can all agree he was faster than Tony Womack or Luis Castillo. I mean we're talking about a guy who had 14 triples and an inside-the-park home run in 1992...in 303 ABs.

In Deion's time with the Braves, he averaged a stolen base every 4.1 times he reached base. Tony Womack, during the four most prolific years of his career ('96-'99), averaged a stolen base every 3.7 times on base, a rate approximately 11% higher than that the man who was very possibly the fastest player in the history of the game.

Well, I certainly agree that bullpens, which are fairly important during the season, become of tantamount importance in the playoffs. I'm a bit skeptical in regards to the fastball claim; if there is a correlation, I don't think it's above and beyond the general correlation between good pitchers and fastballs, but I wouldn't be shocked either way.

It's not just having a 'good' fastball (Greg Maddux has a good fastball, he just relies on location and movement rather than velocity), it's a question of having guys who can bring heat. Almost all the recent World Series winners have had starting rotations dominated by hard throwers. Why? Because good teams tend to have more disciplined hitters and the strike zone shrinks in crunch time. You have to be able to pitch in the strike zone and get away with it.

You made a very good point about luck, but the truth is, teams are a lot more likely to get lucky when a pitcher tops out at 88 than when he's throwing 96, because they're going to put a hell of a lot more balls in play.

[nebbit]

I am recovering from having a party for a 2yr old today the place seemed over run my tin lids :laugh: I am babysitting for 5 days and 4 nights, may need a stiff drink at the end ;D

[John McClane]

I'm waiting for my week of scout camp to start. Then I'll be waiting for it to finish. Because when it finishes, Le Tour De France starts. I'm cheering for Ivan Basso to take the yellow. He's a sheer beast in the mountains.

[Yoda]

I've been watching him since he came up, his range is massively reduced from what it was in the mid-late 90s, when he was probably the best defensive outfielder in the history of the game (that he remains far and away the most intimidating defensive presence in baseball, despite losing 3 steps, is a testament to just how transcendent his talent really is).
I don't think this is true. His range factor (Assists + Putouts / Gamesp layed) last season was 2.36, within shouting distance of his career average of 2.63. What evidence exists to suggest that he's "massively" reduced? Are you going on casual observation here?

'99 was the first year that Andruw really started gaining weight (my guess: 'roids, keep in mind that '98 was the year that really kicked off the modern steroids era).
The numbers don't bear this out, as '99 was his best season in terms of range factor; 3.12. He followed it up with 2.78 in 2000, 2.93 in 2001, and and 2.66 in 2002, all above his career average.

It's worth noting that in 1998, the year before Andruw began to put on weight and his speed declined, he had 8 triples to Womack's 7 (usually a very good indicator of pure speed).
Triples are a terrible indicator of pure speed. Very few triples are won on speed alone; most involve a misplay by an outfielder or a particularly well-placed ball. Witness Pittsburgh Jack Wilson, who tied for the NL lead in triples with 12 in 2004; not because anyone thinks he's among baseball's fastest players, but because PNC Park sports an unusual crook in left-center field (http://www.diamond-mind.com/parks/pnc.jpg). Other leaders in triples over the last decade include Bobby Abreu and Steve Finley.

Most leaders are fast, sure, but triples contain far more mitigating factors than stolen bases. Also, 8-to-7 is essentially a dead heat for a phenomenon that isn't likely to happen in any given game.

Jones also hit in the middle of the lineup at every stage. No one runs as much with their cleanup guy as they do with their leadoff guy.
He wasn't their cleanup guy in his early years. He batted 5th almost invariably. It's far from bizarre to run with your #5 hitter, especially if he's, as you put it "the fastest player in the game."


Not if they're middle of the order guys. The game just isn't played that way.
Really? Chipper Jones stolen 20 bases from the #3 slot in 1997, and 25 in 1999. Cox let Reggie Sanders (who hit all over the lineup) steal 20 in just 103 games in 2000. And he let Sheffield swipe 18 in 2003. Not overwhelming totals, but we need to factor in the fact that middle-of-the-order guys probably run a bit less because they're getting more extra-base hits, or are reaching base with men already on, both of which essentially rule out steal opportunities.


However, here's probably the best evidence of Bobby Cox's reluctance to run:

Deion Sanders was in the early 90s the fastest man in the NFL, which certainly makes him faster than any baseball player of his time. I think we can all agree he was faster than Tony Womack or Luis Castillo. I mean we're talking about a guy who had 14 triples and an inside-the-park home run in 1992...in 303 ABs.

In Deion's time with the Braves, he averaged a stolen base every 4.1 times he reached base. Tony Womack, during the four most prolific years of his career ('96-'99), averaged a stolen base every 3.7 times on base, a rate approximately 11% higher than that the man who was very possibly the fastest player in the history of the game.
Womack only played 17 games in 1996, so I wouldn't count that among his "most prolific years." But I'll go with it, anyway.

Making this comparison with stolen bases is misleading, however, because Deion was caught more often than Womack, and the topic at hand is Cox's alleged aversion to the running game. Steal attempts, then, is more accurate. If we measure the times Deion was allowed to steal, rather than the the times he was successful, the ratio drops from 4.1 to 3.0. Womack's drops from 3.7 to 3.1; nearly identical.

It's not just having a 'good' fastball (Greg Maddux has a good fastball, he just relies on location and movement rather than velocity), it's a question of having guys who can bring heat. Almost all the recent World Series winners have had starting rotations dominated by hard throwers. Why? Because good teams tend to have more disciplined hitters and the strike zone shrinks in crunch time. You have to be able to pitch in the strike zone and get away with it.

You made a very good point about luck, but the truth is, teams are a lot more likely to get lucky when a pitcher tops out at 88 than when he's throwing 96, because they're going to put a hell of a lot more balls in play.
This point I mostly agree on. Voros McCracken takes it a step further with something he calls "DIPS" (Defense Independent Pitching Statistics) that basically states that pitchers have next to no control over whether or not a batted ball will turn into an out, and that statistics like walks, strikeouts, and home runs allowed are the best indicators of a pitcher's raw ability.

I don't think it's quite as empirical as you're saying, however. You mention Maddux, and clearly, he's an exception to your rule. The Braves of the 90s saw remarkable postseason success with two of their three big starters lacking an overpowering fastball.

[tearjerker]

Getting ready to eat some lunch

[Purandara88]

I don't think this is true. His range factor (Assists + Putouts / Gamesp layed) last season was 2.36, within shouting distance of his career average of 2.63. What evidence exists to suggest that he's "massively" reduced? Are you going on casual observation here?

Largely. The truth is he simply doesn't get to the balls he used to, and he has become a bit Edmondsesque in recent years, making a lot of diving plays on balls that at one time he would have caught standing up.

The numbers don't bear this out, as '99 was his best season in terms of range factor; 3.12. He followed it up with 2.78 in 2000, 2.93 in 2001, and and 2.66 in 2002, all above his career average.

These are artifacts of the pitching staffs. Atlanta's starting staff in 1999 included three fly ball/strike out pitchers (John Smoltz, Kevin Milwood and Odalis Perez), and Tom Glavine had trouble keeping the ball down all year (which contributed to his high era that season). Fly ball pitchers artificially increase the range factor of outfielders because they substantially boost opportunities for putouts. They were still getting atypical numbers of fly balls in 2000 due to the presence of Millwood, Andy Ashby, John Burkett (who had long since ceased to be a ground ball pitcher) and Terry Mullholland in the rotation, and 2001 which saw more of Millwood, Burkett, Perez and increasingly fly ball prone pitching from Glavine AND Maddux. 2002 brought back Millwood, a terrible campaign from Jason Marquis, who had NO sinker that year (as his homerun numbers bear out 19...in less than 120 IP), Damien Moss who pitched effectively, but was up in the zone alot.

Compare that to the 1996-98 years, when Atlanta's staff consisted of John Smoltz and a whole bunch of ground ball pitchers (all getting their ground balls).

Triples are a terrible indicator of pure speed.

Only in wierd ballparks. In cookie cutter parks like old Fulton County or Three Rivers, or even relatively regular parks like Turner Field, triples are basically a function of gap power + speed.

Other leaders in triples over the last decade include Bobby Abreu and Steve Finley.

Both quite fast players.

Most leaders are fast, sure, but triples contain far more mitigating factors than stolen bases. Also, 8-to-7 is essentially a dead heat for a phenomenon that isn't likely to happen in any given game.

Jones played his home games in 1998 in cranny-free Turner Field. Womack played his in triples paradise PNC Park.


He wasn't their cleanup guy in his early years. He batted 5th almost invariably. It's far from bizarre to run with your #5 hitter, especially if he's, as you put it "the fastest player in the game."

It's not like he WASN'T stealing bases at all, just that he wasn't getting to run as often as his speed would seem to dictate.

Really? Chipper Jones stolen 20 bases from the #3 slot in 1997, and 25 in 1999.

Compare that to Barry Bonds, who stole 40, 37, and 34 bases in the years between 1997 and 1999, at which point he was no faster than Chipper (though certainly not the post-'roids sloth he has become). And that's for Dusty Baker, who has never at any point been known as a roll the dice manager.


Making this comparison with stolen bases is misleading, however, because Deion was caught more often than Womack, and the topic at hand is Cox's alleged aversion to the running game. Steal attempts, then, is more accurate. If we measure the times Deion was allowed to steal, rather than the the times he was successful, the ratio drops from 4.1 to 3.0. Womack's drops from 3.7 to 3.1; nearly identical.

Fair enough.

The was a brief flirtation between the Braves and running (1999 and 2000, when the rosters were built for top to bottom speed), and, interestingly enough, 1999 (214 attempted steals) was the last year they managed to make the series.

I don't think it's quite as empirical as you're saying, however. You mention Maddux, and clearly, he's an exception to your rule.

Maddux is 11-14 in his playoff career, and his career playoff ERA is nearly a quarter of a run higher than his regular season ERA. It is instructive that, for all of supposed success of the Braves in the 90s, the only year they broke through was 1995, when they played against two teams with mediocre starting staffs and free swinging lineups. When the Braves ran up against strong starting staffs and teams with a disciplined plate approach, they invariably were worn down and beaten because they simply couldn't manufacture enough runs or keep their starters in long enough to cover for weak bullpens.

[Equilibrium]

sleeeeepy

[SamsoniteDelilah]

waiting for the rain

[nebbit]

Should go and have a shower and get ready for work :yup:

[Tacitus]

I've just been cornered by a neighbour who regaled me with tales of funerals, priests and, the piéce de résistance, dead priests!

Sometimes I feel like I'm living beside Mrs Doyle from Father Ted...

[nebbit]

I've just been cornered by a neighbour who regaled me with tales of funerals, priests and, the piéce de résistance, dead priests!

Sometimes I feel like I'm living beside Mrs Doyle from Father Ted...

I think that is better than my neighbour :eek: we were talking, in the conversation some where, I said, :yup: I thought his dog was lonely, thats why he is always in my place playing with my dog :yup: but he heard me say :eek: You are a bad dog owner and that he should get rid of the dog, the rest of the story is a nighmare.....................so yours looks wonderful to me :yup: :laugh:

[Tacitus]

I think that is better than my neighbour :eek: we were talking, in the conversation some where, I said, :yup: I thought his dog was lonely, thats why he is always in my place playing with my dog :yup: but he heard me say :eek: You are a bad dog owner and that he should get rid of the dog, the rest of the story is a nighmare.....................so yours looks wonderful to me :yup: :laugh:

It's strange how some people can misinterpret what you say. At times it's their own fears and hang-ups ringing in their brain louder than your your innocent words...

Right now there's an 80-something year old man halfway up a ladder trying to top a bush next door with an electric hedge trimmer. He had a minor stroke last year so I've got a bad feeling about this. :rolleyes:

[nebbit]

Right now there's an 80-something year old man halfway up a ladder trying to top a bush next door with an electric hedge trimmer. He had a minor stroke last year so I've got a bad feeling about this. :rolleyes:

:laugh:

[raggman]

I was involved in a basketball tournament last night. After which was a medal presentation and meal. I was subsequently filled to the gills with various alcoholic substances. Right now I'm thinking up the plot of my own SAW-style movie to avenge my suffering head from the sadist who knew I was going to be in this state this morning :s

[Revenant]

Well I've just had all the local kids come play tug-of-war and catch with my dog.

[chicagofrog]

finishing a loooooong translation and going home for a well deserved dinner, rest and a movie...

[allthatglitters]

Doing (sort of) my ConLaw homework and being really happy about my sorta date next week.

[John McClane]

Trying to recover from one of the worst weeks of my life. It just absolutely sucked. I really need to hang out with someone this coming week. At least UFC 61 will be on pay per view. Oh well, I'll go eat now.

[nebbit]

I am here :yup: but should be doing things around the house as I am having 15 people for lunch :eek: thank goodness I am orginised :yup: well today at least :laugh:

[Blister]

Playing Metroid Prime:Hunters on Wifi

[John McClane]

I just woke up from my first excellent night of sleep in a week. Wow, my bed is comfortable. :)

[Lockheed Martin]

Writing messages on sheets of paper, folding them into darts and throwing them out of my window onto the street below.

Yup, sunday is a slow day.

[Purple_Panther]

Eating a cheeseburger and typing that I'm eating a cheeseburger.

[jrs]

Checking up on MoFo and just hanging loose. :cool:

[John McClane]

Comparing prices and getting ready to play a game.

[nebbit]

Eating breakfast :licklips:

[jrs]

Working on my DVD blog an about to eat dinner.

[Eyes]

it's 6, but I'm gonna have cereal

[jrs]

Posting DVD news on my blog, and and about to eat.

[7thson]

Just finished making baked, bacon-wrapped, chicken breasts marinated in Italian dressing, along with steamed broccoli lightly covered with chedder jack and alfredo noodles.

[Lockheed Martin]

Smoking my breakfast.

[Yoda]

Lockheed Martin = badass.

[Itspersonal]

Thinking I need to get to bed it 3:15 in the morning here.:o

[Lockheed Martin]

Lockheed Martin = badass.

Damn right, I'm what Vin Diesel would be if he made a living proofreading. I'm the hardest pedant in Bristol.

Did you know that Vin Diesel is a keen player of Dungeons and Dragons by the way? I know. I found it hard to believe too.

[John McClane]

Playing with my BlackBerry. No the electronic device sickos!! Lol. It was an early birthday gift. It's very, very cool.

[BobbyB]

Missing my cousin :(

[birdygyrl]

Enjoying Manon of the Spring.

[jrs]

Pissed that my blog just vanished. :mad:

[Revenant]

Sweating

[Eyes]

admiring my new background, which unfortunately isn't a gif or similar accepted file, so I can't make it my avatar...

[John McClane]

Thinking about taking up my last art of blogging. With a BlackBerry, it should be easier to update. Then again, just because it might be easier don't mean I'll do it. :laugh: :)

[Terminator734]

Playing Ghost Recon: Advanced warfighter (minimized atm) while watching The Matador on DVD for the 2nd time.

[Eyes]

ahh, Ghost Recon....

[chicagofrog]

eating chicken

http://www.nyu.edu/classes/siva/archives/turkey.jpg

[nebbit]

Sooooo froggies eat chicken now! :eek:

[John McClane]

Getting ready to run some errands.

[BobbyB]

Same ol', same ol'. Missing my cousin...again :(

[Caitlyn]

Eating a piece of sugar-free chocolate candy and drinking a diet DP while I'm trying to catch up on MoFo....

Oh, and NOT missing my cousin.... :nope:

;)

[BobbyB]

Oh, and NOT missing my cousin.... :nope:

;)
Not your cousin's biggest fan? ;)

I'm doing a few things right now. I'm watching 8 Simple Rules, while surfing MoFo and another website, and looking out the window at this gorgeous day. :)














Oh, and still missing my cousin :(

[John McClane]

Waiting to go out with my dad.

[Lockheed Martin]

Reading my e-mails and trying to find my lighter. If anyone's seen a matte black zippo with "I smoke, therefore I shouldn't" engraved on the side, could you send it to me?

[John McClane]

Just got back from Best Buy. Man, I wish I was rich. I'd buy a big TV, speakers, Blu-Ray player and a fridge with a TV in it. Ah, it would be good. :)

[7thson]

d a fridge with a TV in it.

It isnt worth it...either you get to watch a whole movie or your whole milk goes bad, or your milk is good and you miss the ending of On Golden Pond.................sour either way.:D

[Tacitus]

Reading my e-mails and trying to find my lighter. If anyone's seen a matte black zippo with "I smoke, therefore I shouldn't" engraved on the side, could you send it to me?

As I've had my Zippo for 15 years now, I feel your pain...

[John McClane]

Going to the range to shoot the .38 Special and the .41 Magnum. Yippee! :)

[Escape]

Going to the range to shoot the .38 Special and the .41 Magnum. Yippee! :)

That sounds very cool actually. I've never shot off a real gun before. Closest i've ever came was a firing a BB Gun. :D

[Blister]

Trying to stay awake...

[Purple_Panther]

Getting ready to go to bed zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[John McClane]

Fixing a computer up to be shipped to the west coast.

[jrs]

Thinking that today is my 5 Year Anniversary here at Movieforums. :D

[Purple_Panther]

Getting ready to go out shopping:D

[BobbyB]

Eating Reece's Pieces and watching "The Godfather"






Oh, and missing my cousin.

[B-card]

watching Brigada with one eye chatting with a friend over Skype

[John McClane]

Making a post on my blog. (See signature for link.)

[nebbit]

Drinking my wake up coffee :sleep:

[John McClane]

Just thinking how funny that seduce thread is becoming. Isn't it so much fun to bump old topics?

[Caitlyn]

Drinking my 3rd cup of coffee.... :yawn:

[Tacitus]

Drinking my 3rd cup of coffee.... :yawn:

Beat Ya! I think I've had 6...

The 12th of July in Norn Ireland is the day where Dave stays in to avoid seemingly random displays of sectarian triumphalism which manifest themselves as men wearing bowler hats marching in ragged lines behind flute bands then getting drunk and urinating in people's gardens.

The weather's too lousy for my usual trip across the border, far away from the insular barbarity of burning a banner with a young catholic boy's (murdered a few months ago purely because of his religion) name on it, which is a rather pathetic way to celebrate one's 'culture'.

The vast majority of people who celebrate the 12th do so in a peaceful manner but episodes like the above only serve to underline my sometime regret at why the Hell I ever came back to this country.

I'm also constipated. :(

[Purple_Panther]

I just woke up so I typing this message in my PJ's and I'm gonna take a shower in a bit.

[7thson]

This is not the seduce someone thread PP
;)


Anyway maybe I need to learn to like coffee too I am dragging this morning. I am about to kick a computer I am working on because it will not allow me to fix it. If it was mine I would toss it in the dumpster. Oh well back to the salt mines.

[John McClane]

7thson, I hear ya. I feel that all the time.

Going to get a haircut and I need to replace a brake light as well as fix a computer.

[nebbit]

Having coffee :licklips:

[voneil7]

Eerie Nebbit, so am I.

[John McClane]

Just woke up. So, I'm doing nothing.

[Caitlyn]

Trying to find somewhere cool (temperature wise) to 'hide out'....

[John McClane]

Going to the movies.

[Ash_Lee]

About to get a mug of tea.

[B-card]

preparing for dinner

[Ash_Lee]

Eating some sushi from the Supermarket, with chopsticks. If only I had a webcam :laugh:

[Tacitus]

Dogsitting.

I wouldn't mind so much but he's a flippin' nutjob of an American Staffie who's ultimately good-natured but thick as two short planks and, how can I put this politely, excitable. :rolleyes:

[John McClane]

Waiting for tomorrow morning so I can test out this new car care products I bought. Going to wax the entire puppy tomorrow!! Yippee!! :)

[B-card]

Shutting down my computer and going to bed because i can hardly see what am i writting.Good night guys

[7thson]

Sitting in front of a fan in my service area trying to get cool, my a.c. is just not keeping up to the heat. :furiousdevil:

[nebbit]

Staying inside, it is http://bestsmileys.com/weather/1.gif

[7thson]

Staying inside, it is http://bestsmileys.com/weather/1.gif

Me be envious..share share.:)

[nebbit]

Me be envious..share share.:)\

ok http://bestsmileys.com/weather/1.gif http://bestsmileys.com/weather/2.gif http://bestsmileys.com/weather/3.gif http://bestsmileys.com/weather/4.gif http://bestsmileys.com/weather/5.gif

[birdygyrl]

We are supposed to get a bit of a heat wave up here. It is going to be in the 90"s for the next few days.

[allthatglitters]

not doing my term paper

[7thson]

shame shame...is someone else doing it at least...:)

[jrs]

Blogging, on MoFo and relaxing.

[John McClane]

Watching a History Channel thing on the end of the world. :)

[Austruck]

Hmmm...History channel show on the end of the world?? Either that's just silly, or I missed something on the news today.

[John McClane]

They talking about how different religions view the end of the world. But yup, it's just silly.

[Austruck]

Whew, okay. So I can continue to contribute to my Roth IRA then? ;)

I'm watching Napoleon Dynamite and listening to the rolls of thunder outside and the drenching rain pounding on the windows, waiting for the ibuprofen to kick in so I can go to bed.

[nebbit]

Looking for a new avatar :yup:

[Blister]

Mourning.

[jrs]

Checking out my video on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlbGD2-fDEI)

[B-card]

standing dazzled and confused in front the PC

[John McClane]

Checking out my video on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlbGD2-fDEI)
That's old and it was only altered a bit.

I'm sitting in my chair waiting for someone to talk too. I might go get a soda and watch some TV.

[B-card]

Checking the latest issue of MAXIM

[John McClane]

Checking the latest issue of MAXIM
Haha! See anything interesting? I always liked the articles. :D

[Elaine]

Chating on ICQ and look through the last topics.

[jrs]

Going to out to eat lunch with my girlfriend and then going to her place to have fun . :p :cool:

[7thson]

Going to out to eat lunch at Wendy's and get a .99 cent chicken samich with my girlfriend and then going to her place to have fun First we will have a nice candle lit meal and then as I start to whisper in her ear............. . :p :cool:

WAIT!!! Wendy's has a 99 cent chicken sandwhich?

;)

[jrs]

WAIT!!! Wendy's has a 99 cent chicken sandwhich?

;)
:laugh: Cute

[Alvin]

I just finished reading Crime & Punishment and now I'm gonna piss about for an hour before watching Mad Max which I really don't like that much so I'm not sure why I'm going to watch it.

[John McClane]

I just got the ***** scared out of me by Doom 3. I now remember why I stopped playing the game. I'm going to go install Warcraft 3 and play some of it.

[B-card]

I just got the ***** scared out of me by Doom 3. I know remember why I stopped playing the game. I'm going to go install Warcraft 3 and play some of it.

DooM 3 wasn't that scary try F.E.A.R. <<that game scares the ***** out of me

anyway i'm going to have lunch now

[jcjd]

im waiting for the clock to strike ten...im going home from work....i just cant wait.

[John McClane]

DooM 3 wasn't that scary try F.E.A.R. <<that game scares the ***** out of me

anyway i'm going to have lunch nowHaha, F.E.A.R. isn't scary. It's got a 3 foot girl running around giggling. That's already been done so alas, it's not scary. I bet if you played F.E.A.R. and Doom 3, you'd yell more at Doom 3 then you would F.E.A.R.

F.E.A.R is based on the hopes of freaking you out, rather then scaring you. Doom 3, they just want to scare you. :D

[Ash_Lee]

About to play Half Life 2.

[Zim Zim Zoom]

Drinking a glass of Lemon Water

[John McClane]

Thinking about writing something. A short story perhaps. Or, I'll just write until I can't write anymore. That sounds good. :yup:

[Zim Zim Zoom]

Thinking about watching T.V., but I don't have a clue what.

[Odd Thomas]

Listening to Megadeth's "Symphony of Destruction" while typing.:cool:

[Zim Zim Zoom]

Thinking about cooking breakfast for myself.

[John McClane]

Just wrote some thank you cards. Otherwise my mom would go nuclear and destroy the world. I'm now going to go take a shower and then play some Doom 3.

[NapalmInTheMorning]

scratching my ear

[John McClane]

Just got the freaking crap scared out of me. So scary yet I continue to play.

[Zim Zim Zoom]

Getting ready to go shopping for some shoes:)

[SamsoniteDelilah]

Having lunch, deep-conditioning my hair, thanking every god I have heard of for air conditioning. :)

[Zim Zim Zoom]

Drinking a Raspberry Margarita:p

[Caitlyn]

Having lunch, deep-conditioning my hair, thanking every god I have heard of for air conditioning. :)



Don't forget to thank all the Goddesses too…. Mother Nature is pissed at us bad enough as it is…. ;)

[nebbit]

Drinking a Raspberry Margarita:p

Yum Yum http://bestsmileys.com/drinking/7.gif

[Zim Zim Zoom]

Up early going for a morning run and wishing I was drinking another Raspberry Margarita:)

[B-card]

Eating chockolate Ice Cream mmmmm

[jcjd]

im thinking about writing a press release.....and waiting for the clock to strike ten and im going home...

[John McClane]

Going to mail something. Then who knows. Might hang out with a friend if they call sometime.

[Caitlyn]

Eating a salad and thanking the Gods and Goddesses that I am not as…. um…. well endowed as Nebbit's avatar…. :eek:

[Blister]

Patiently waiting for Paul Gilbert's new album to be released......

[John McClane]

Wondering when I'm going to cut the grass. It's getting tall. I hate mowing the lawn.

[voneil7]

Wondering when Yoda will reveal his big secret, it's killing me!

[7thson]

Up early going for a morning run and wishing I was drinking another Raspberry Margarita:)



Wait what is the drinking age in Canada?;)

[B-card]

Wait what is the drinking age in Canada?;)

I guess it's not 21

thinking of going to bed

[Zim Zim Zoom]

I guess it's not 21

thinking of going to bed

It's 18 and in some Provinces it's 19 so I'm safe:D

[nebbit]

thanking the Gods and Goddesses that I am not as…. um…. well endowed as Nebbit's avatar…. :eek:

You can have them, all you need is money, and a desire to be freaky :goof:

[Zim Zim Zoom]

Drinking a Orange Smoothie and typing my last post for the evening. Good Night:)

[voneil7]

Having a beer and now I'm sad that Kimmy is done for the evening.

[Austruck]

Sending the same email to Yoda over and over and over again. :rolleyes:

[John McClane]

Thinking about writing a letter. Then I'll go to bed.

[nebbit]

Watching Mash :)

[Iroquois]

Using Myspace.

[Zim Zim Zoom]

Eating a bowl of cereal

[voneil7]

Drinking coffee.

[7thson]

Cleaning up a mess that a customer made. He walked into the door with a large soda sitting on top of his laptop while holding it and a spit cup in his teeth. The soda tipped over and spilled all over him his laptop and my floor, he yelled a cuss word lost control of his spit cup and it hit the floor and splattered chew everywhere. Guess why he was brining in his laptop? Because he spilt soda on it earlier. I pulled out his battery which was dripping and told him sorry but I do not think I can save it, especially if this is the second time. I felt sorry for him but it wasnt my fault :( He got mad and left and here I am cleaning up soda and spit. Must be humpday.
:)

[sandyintheburbs]

When you post a reply here, tell us what your doing at that very moment, you could be listening to music, or playing a video game, etc.

Right now I am playing a South Park Super Mario Bros. game, very addictive, been playing it for hours. :cool:


Getting ready to take surly 13-year-old daughter to mall. :eek:

[John McClane]

Cleaning up a mess that a customer made. He walked into the door with a large soda sitting on top of his laptop while holding it and a spit cup in his teeth. The soda tipped over and spilled all over him his laptop and my floor, he yelled a cuss word lost control of his spit cup and it hit the floor and splattered chew everywhere. Guess why he was brining in his laptop? Because he spilt soda on it earlier. I pulled out his battery which was dripping and told him sorry but I do not think I can save it, especially if this is the second time. I felt sorry for him but it wasnt my fault :( He got mad and left and here I am cleaning up soda and spit. Must be humpday.
:)Ah man, that's pretty bad. I feel for ya.

Going to a friend's house to beta Vista; once again. Talk to you all later.

[Xui Wan]

ewww!!! and I thought class was bad enough... Im sitting in class pondering why I decided I wanted to do this in the summer... :( its so hot out too... hmm o well ty now Iknow its not so bad :p

[John McClane]

Man, Vista Beta 2 was worse then Beta 1. At this rate I'll never want to upgrade.

[nebbit]

Eating a bowl of cereal
http://bestsmileys.com/signs1/17.gif

[John McClane]

I just played a little bit of Call of Duty 2. Man, I'm hungry. My mom is making some chicken nuggets. I think I'll go "borrow" some. Hehe! :devil: :)

[Zim Zim Zoom]

Just said bye to my big sister and her 1 year old daughter who spent the day with me.

[7thson]

Just said bye to my big sister and her 1 year old daughter who spent the day with me.

You are an Aunt!! Yay!! COngrats, when I became an uncle I was so proud.

[John McClane]

I just watched 30 Days. I think this is going to be a very good season for the show.

[AmandaSparks]

Wondering if I have food poisoning from the fine folks at Krystal. That'll cure me of that particular junk food house of binge, so I guess its a blessing in the skies.

[Zim Zim Zoom]

Just finished watching The Caine Mutiny and thinking about going to bed.

[Iroquois]

I'm getting increasingly angry with the fact that Myspace is not letting me log in.

The rage is increasing.

[nebbit]

Sittting here, totally drunk, from my birthday party http://bestsmileys.com/drinking/4.gif

[B-card]

Sittting here, totally drunk, from my birthday party http://bestsmileys.com/drinking/4.gif

http://www.albany.edu/psy/images/happy-birthday-balloons.jpg



Thinking of watching a film,but don't know which one

[Iroquois]

Still on the Internet. Talking to a friend through MSN and also wondering what the hell happened to Myspace.

[Caitlyn]

Sittting here, totally drunk, from my birthday party http://bestsmileys.com/drinking/4.gif

:laugh: ..... You need ----> http://bestsmileys.com/coffee/1.gif





Still on the Internet. Talking to a friend through MSN and also wondering what the hell happened to Myspace.


Myspace has gone nutty.... accounts are showing up as being deleted when they're not and if you can even log on, you can't get any of the pages to load.... I guess they will figure it out eventually.....

[John McClane]

Still on the Internet. Talking to a friend through MSN and also wondering what the hell happened to Myspace.They probably had another power outage. Too bad CA doesn't know about the benefits of nuclear engine. ;)

I've got to run errands. I hate being able to drive sometimes. Soon as I get back though, I'm washing the car and watching something.

[Mysterious Poet]

Sitting here thinking about what I'm gonna do next.

[voneil7]

Getting ready to leave work!!! :D

[John McClane]

Sitting here thinking about what I'm gonna do next.Saying hello to this new person we have here. Hello!!

I just played some video games but, a bit bored now. Oh well.

[jrs]

Updating my blog. I am reporting on the DVD release of X-Men: The Last Stand, updates on Blade Runner: Director's Cut and release dates for The Lake House, An Inconvenient Truth, The Break-Up, The Omen (2006),Nacho Libre, Mission: Impossible III, Little Man, John Tucker Must Die, You, Me and Dupree, Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby, My Super Ex-Girlfriend and The Ant Bully

[nebbit]

http://bestsmileys.com/coffee/3.gif

[John McClane]

I'm going to pick up my dad from the airport, but right now I'm watching Rescue Me. Even though I've already seen it, it's still good.

[Equilibrium]

facebooook

[jrs]

facebooook
what???

[Equilibrium]

what???
you've never heard of facebook?

[John McClane]

Just got back from the airport. My dad's plane was late. I dunno what I'm going to do now. I know, I'll read!! :)

[B-card]

Having breakfast and checking MoFo

[Mysterious Poet]

Gonna Have lunch and hang with friends.

[John McClane]

Going to buy a new video card here in a couple minutes.

[Equilibrium]

Going to buy a new video card here in a couple minutes.

Which one?

[John McClane]

Which one?I just placed an order for an eVGA 7900 GT. One of the best nVidia card manufacturers. Lifetime warranty on all their cards and top notch, "understandable" tech support. Highly recommend you only buy from them. It should be here in two days. :) Yay!

I just watched Enemy of the State. Now I'm going to lay down for a good hour and a half of reading. Ben Bova is just wow when it comes to science fiction.

[Equilibrium]

I just placed an order for an eVGA 7900 GT. One of the best nVidia card manufacturers. Lifetime warranty on all their cards and top notch, "understandable" tech support. Highly recommend you only buy from them. It should be here in two days. :) Yay!

I just watched Enemy of the State. Now I'm going to lay down for a good hour and a half of reading. Ben Bova is just wow when it comes to science fiction.
i figured it was the 7900.

lucky boy you are.

[birdygyrl]

Drinking coffe and getting ready to go visit my parental units.

[Aniko]

Just tied my kids up and put them into their rooms...

...and am about to go make myself more hot tea to unruffle my fur...


...and am seriously thinking of destroying our GameCube. :p


......
Birdy... have a nice visit with your parents. :)

[Mysterious Poet]

I am posting on MoFo at the moment.

[John McClane]

i figured it was the 7900.

lucky boy you are.The card was cheaper then the last one I bought. They're really not that expensive when ya think about it.

I might play some GameCube. But considering I just woke up like 20 minutes ago, I dunno if I can.

[jrs]

Posting on MoFo while my girlfriend is taking a shower.

[Mysterious Poet]

I might go to the mall with my girlfriends.

[jrs]

Waiting for Phoebe (my girlfriend) to finish up getting done. We're seeing a movie and having something to eat.

[nebbit]

http://bestsmileys.com/coffee/1.gif

[jrs]

Just came back home quickly to pick some stuff up and check my e-mal before I go to my girlfriend's house. I'm spending the night. :p

[Mysterious Poet]

Going to watch the Redsox beat the Angels

[voneil7]

Talking to my sister.

[John McClane]

I just ate a Texas Tavern hot dog. It serves 1,000 people; 10 at a time. If you're ever in the valley, be sure to eat one of their hot dogs.

[B-card]

Going out with a friend,because i'm going to rot here

[Aniko]

Taking a quick sanity break from work....and sipping a hot cup of tea.

[Mysterious Poet]

posting a message right at this exact second