Swan's Movie Commentaries

[Sexy Celebrity]

One of my biggest problems with this movie are the NAMES.

It feels very wrong for these characters to have names like ROMAN and ANGELINA.

I mean, this is Scream. And Gale's running around saying, "Angelina! Angelina! Angelina!" It's not right.

[honeykid]

He also slashes him rather than stabbing him, as he does Tyson a few seconds later.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Jennifer's a good name. I approve of Jennifer being used in Scream.

[honeykid]

I'm assuming she's Jennifer because she's playing Gale, who's played by CC who works with Jennifer IRL.

[honeykid]

Well, did at the time, anyway.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Why is Dewey so shocked about finding Tyson dead? EVERYONE'S DEAD!

[honeykid]

One of my biggest problems with this movie are the NAMES.

It feels very wrong for these characters to have names like ROMAN and ANGELINA.

I mean, this is Scream. And Gale's running around saying, "Angelina! Angelina! Angelina!" It's not right.
I don't understand this one. Not saying you have to like it, but I don't know what's wrong with it in these films.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Dewey peers around the corner and sees Tyson on the ground, bleeding, dead. He's like, "Ooooh! GALE! GALE! GALE! COME HERE, GALE! THE BLACK GUY IS DEAD! GALE!"

Meanwhile, everyone has been dying, but Tyson's death is, like, front page news.

[honeykid]

Is that the first time he's seen that he's dead, though. I think everyone else who's died he's seen them die.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I don't understand this one. Not saying you have to like it, but I don't know what's wrong with it in these films.

Well part of it's because all of these names are just taken from real actors and directors and such. That's stupid. That's unreal and unlikely again.

[Swan]

That's cause he's Tyson yo, the illest ni**a in history.

[honeykid]

Well part of it's because all of these names are just taken from real actors and directors and such. That's stupid. That's unreal and unlikely again.
Nah, I'm going to have to leave you hanging on this one, SC. It's not as if they're the only people to ever have those names. They're not even that uncommon, though Roman is a stupid name for anyone, but I can see someone picking it as a stage name.

[Sexy Celebrity]

"HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ROMAN."

Should be obvious by now who's the killer. I mean, just WHY does it happen to be Roman's birthday? Why couldn't it have been some other kind of party? But a birthday party for the director? Hmmm... why HIM of all people?

[Swan]

"HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ROMAN."

Should be obvious by now who's the killer. I mean, just WHY does it happen to be Roman's birthday? Why couldn't it have been some other kind of party? But a birthday party for the director? Hmmm... why HIM of all people?

And where the hell is he?

[Sexy Celebrity]

Nah, I'm going to have to leave you hanging on this one, SC. It's not as if they're the only people to ever have those names. They're not even that uncommon, though Roman is a stupid name for anyone, but I can see someone picking it as a stage name.

I don't agree. It's too much. Roman, Angelina Tyler, Tom Prinze, Jennifer Jolie. It's just too much for Scream again. It's the fact that you just know these names are taken off the real celebrities that's too much for me.

[honeykid]

Glass breaks very easily in these films, doesn't it? :D

[honeykid]

I don't agree. It's too much. Roman, Angelina Tyler, Tom Prinze, Jennifer Jolie. It's just too much for Scream again. It's the fact that you just know these names are taken off the real celebrities that's too much for me.
I understand, but again, they're Stab actors. It's the point.

[Sexy Celebrity]

And they really are Ehren Kruger's work. I know for a fact that one of the cop characters in Scream 4 was originally named Dustin Hoss, when Kevin Williamson wrote it. When Ehren Kruger took over, he changed the name to Ross Hoss. ROSS HOSS.

And the other cop became Deputy Anthony Perkins.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I understand, but again, they're Stab actors. It's the point.

It's Ehren Kruger's point and I don't like it.

[Sexy Celebrity]

And where the hell did Roman get footage of Maureen Prescott putting on makeup?

[honeykid]

It's Ehren Kruger's point and I don't like it.

Well that I completely understand and agree with.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I don't know of any videos of my mother putting on makeup.

[Swan]

He's not using the voice thing!

[honeykid]

He explains it here, doesn't he?

[Sexy Celebrity]

Unless that video was supposed to be RINA REYNOLDS putting on makeup. You know, from her film career.

But still... she was young when she was Rina Reynolds. That looked like an older woman putting on makeup.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yes, Roman filmed them around town, but how did Roman film Maureen putting on makeup?

I mean, I guess it's possible. Roman's very ambitious. Film director, goes on murder sprees on the side. It's possible he hid in her room and filmed her, I guess.

[honeykid]

It's one of the films he made.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Very Norman Bates that way.

[honeykid]

He's filming through a window by the look of it.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I like the Egyptian pharaoh thing on the wall.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Sarcophagus. Egyptian sarcophagus, I guess.

[honeykid]

It's amazing how hits to the head don't hurt when you're in a fight. :D

[Sexy Celebrity]

There's several of them. It's like they're in an Egyptian tomb fighting.

[Swan]

It's amazing how hits to the head don't hurt when you're in a fight. :D

That's what I love about that scene in True Romance, when she hits him on the head with the toilet top thingy and it doesn't break. Tarantino talks about it on the commentary. The toilet thingy wouldn't break - your skull would.

[honeykid]

Even if it did break, so would your skull.

[Sexy Celebrity]

He should have taken off his Ghostface robe. The other killers always had their robe off.

Maybe that makes him look more badass, the fact that he never takes off the robe. It makes him seem the most Ghostface-like of them all, I guess. Perhaps it's playing up that whole "reality-turns-into-Stab" thing. Which I really don't go for with all of the other points I've made so far, but I guess the robe being left on is a nice touch. He's the Ghostface Master. The head Ghostface. The one who started it all. The inventor of Ghostface.

[Swan]

He should have taken off his Ghostface robe. The other killers always had their robe off.

Maybe that makes him look more badass, the fact that he never takes off the robe. It makes him seem the most Ghostface-like of them all, I guess. Perhaps it's playing up that whole "reality-turns-into-Stab" thing. Which I really don't go for with all of the other points I've made so far, but I guess the robe being left on is a nice touch. He's the Ghostface Master. The head Ghostface. The one who started it all. The inventor of Ghostface.

I think it just makes him look like a douche.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I wonder how hot he is in that robe. I mean, they're in California.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I almost wish she didn't kill him for some reason. Even though he does deserve to die.

[Swan]

I don't like how he is supposed to have convinced Billy to kill Sidney in the first one. They had their own reasons already.

[honeykid]

It's a bad ending, but I do like that exchange between Sid and Dewey.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I guess since he's related to her and she can hold his hand as he dies, she can make peace with Ghostface.

[honeykid]

I don't like how he is supposed to have convinced Billy to kill Sidney in the first one. They had their own reasons already.

Reason he gave them. Of course it doesn't work, though, because it's not a trilogy. It just has two sequels (at the time).

[Swan]

Daw.

[honeykid]

And Sid throws open the gates to her life. God I really hate this ending.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I don't like how he is supposed to have convinced Billy to kill Sidney in the first one. They had their own reasons already.

Yeah, it's definitely too much. I don't like thinking about Scream and thinking that this stupid guy had everything to do with it.

I read that Kevin Williamson originally wrote some lines for Scream 4 where he retconned Scream 3. He explained that they found out that Roman wasn't actually Sidney's half-brother. He was just some nut who convinced himself of this or tried to pass it off or something, but none of it was actually true. That was actually written into Scream 4, but the producers didn't want to retcon Scream 3 so they didn't go with it. That may have been one of the reasons Kevin Williamson was pissed about the movie. 'Cause he said he had creative differences with them.

[Swan]

Yeah, it's definitely too much. I don't like thinking about Scream and thinking that this stupid guy had everything to do with it.

I read that Kevin Williamson originally wrote some lines for Scream 4 where he retconned Scream 3. He explained that they found out that Roman wasn't actually Sidney's half-brother. He was just some nut who convinced himself of this or tried to pass it off or something, but none of it was actually true. That was actually written into Scream 4, but the producers didn't want to retcon Scream 3 so they didn't go with it. That may have been one of the reasons Kevin Williamson was pissed about the movie. 'Cause he said he had creative differences with them.

Kevin Williamson sounds like a cool dude.

[Swan]

She just leaves the door open. That's going to bring in a lot of flies.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Well, Kevin Williamson created this franchise. It's his creation. He did not intend for Scream 3 to have this storyline. He envisioned an ending where 5 teenagers in Woodsboro were the killers and they were trying to top Billy and Stu so they could be the talk of the town instead.

[honeykid]

Well, that's that... Again. :D

It's still not a good film, but it's watchable... Just. If you chat and take the piss while watching it.

Thanks for the commentary, guys. :)

[Sexy Celebrity]

Thanks. I give that 3.5.

[honeykid]

Well, Kevin Williamson created this franchise. It's his creation. He did not intend for Scream 3 to have this storyline. He envisioned an ending where 5 teenagers in Woodsboro were the killers and they were trying to top Billy and Stu so they could be the talk of the town instead.

Yeah, I know I've said it before in commentaries, but The Following is pretty much the basis for the original Scream 3. I don't really care for that at all, but it might've made a good 100 minute movie. Much better than a tv series which just goes on and on, anyway.

[honeykid]

Oh, rating. Erm... 2

[Swan]

rating_1 My rating might seem really harsh but I hated this movie. I don't blame Craven though, this is Kruger's mess. Horrible, horrible writer.

It's not without it's good moments, for sure, but I just don't like it. Huge step down from the other movies, which I love.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I need to actually watch The Following someday. Just because it makes me curious.

[honeykid]

You might like it. It starts off OK, not great, but fine. My main problem with it was that it kept going on and on and you have to buy into it to a level I just couldn't. By episode 5 I was already thinking whether I'd continue or not. I think I got to episode 8 or 9. There's a point where I thought "OK, if it starts to settle or change from here, I'll keep with it" But it doesn't. It's just another step in the incredulous events.

[Derek Vinyard]

Dewey suck a** .

[Swan]

He sucks Gale's a**.

[Derek Vinyard]

He sucks Gale's a**.

I wish I could do too #Milf

[Sexy Celebrity]

I have to say I don't really this idea that allegedly was Kevin Williamson's where Stu was actually not dead, but in jail, masterminding teenagers from jail to do his work.

I still don't really understand how this whole idea for Scream 3 of his was meant to be. They were also supposed to be shooting Stab 3 in Woodsboro. Then he said five teenagers were the killers, all Stab fans trying to become legends.

I can believe that the TV didn't kill Stu, but something about it all sounds kind of disappointing.

[honeykid]

I don't like the idea of Stu not being dead but, again, it does run parallel with The Following.

[Swan]

SHIVERS
(David Cronenberg, 1975)

http://static.rogerebert.com/uploads/movie/movie_poster/they-came-from-within--shivers-1976/large_r5fQsokhzBA7IqDW9Z3rLe4bOJr.jpg

With honeykid and Sexy Celebrity

[honeykid]

I am ready.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Alright?

[Swan]

Press play.

[Swan]

This is a cool movie.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I don't like this guy's voice.

[honeykid]

Highrise flats.

[Swan]

Do you not like Cronenberg, Sexy?

[honeykid]

I've not seen this in quite a while. I used to really like this film. Not sure it's a 'commentary' film, though.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Do you not like Cronenberg, Sexy?

Videodrome and The Fly are really good. I dunno about the other stuff.

[honeykid]

"Exercise the fun way" and "9 hole" shouldnt' go together.

[Swan]

I've not seen this in quite a while. I used to really like this film. Not sure it's a 'commentary' film, though.

It might not be. You've got to get one of the Child's Play movies, those would be great. :p

[honeykid]

Oooooh dental facilities. :D

[Sexy Celebrity]

I wasn't really in a Cronenberg mood.

[Swan]

Do you guys want to change the movie?

[honeykid]

It might not be. You've got to get one of the Child's Play movies, those would be great. :p

Yeah, they're definitely more the thing. I didn't like them, though. But, maybe for a commentary.

[honeykid]

Buggery was a lot more hardcore back then.

[Sexy Celebrity]

What the hell's going on in that hotel room?

[Swan]

Yeah, they're definitely more the thing. I didn't like them, though. But, maybe for a commentary.

I saw the first one when I was into slasher movies as a kid. I remember not liking it, too. Haven't seen the others.

[honeykid]

She's Mrs. Sweden? :D

[honeykid]

What the hell's going on in that hotel room?

They're making an awful mess. That's what. Some people have give no thought to the work others have to do.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I have the first three Child's Play movies on me. I need to get the other ones again. I prefer the sequels over the original movie because the sequels are funny.

[Swan]

He's giving no care to the china! That stuff is breakable, idiot!

[Swan]

Oh hey, it's Ted from How I Met Your Mother.

[honeykid]

LOL

[Sexy Celebrity]

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=17005&stc=1&d=1409951681

What is he doing? Water flossing?

[honeykid]

Blood Feast is the film we should do.

[Swan]

Blood Feast is the film we should do.

That would be awesome.

If you guys want to change it, that's fine.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I wouldn't mind seeing Blood Feast.

[honeykid]

Yep, needs more ketchup.

[honeykid]

That would be awesome.

If you guys want to change it, that's fine.

I'd like to do this, but I'd love to do Blood Feast some time.

[honeykid]

Now that's kinky. :D

[Sexy Celebrity]

So does this apartment complex make you crazy or something?

[Swan]

I'd like to do this, but I'd love to do Blood Feast some time.

Okay great, because I'm enjoying this. :D

[honeykid]

Wood panelled lift? It's the 70's people!!!!

[Swan]

So does this apartment complex make you crazy or something?

That would be an interesting movie.

But no, it's parasites. The movie is about mind-controlling parasites.

[honeykid]

So does this apartment complex make you crazy or something?
No, but it's not the best place to live at this moment in the story.

[honeykid]

Oh, c'mon. Purple socks aren't that bad.

[Swan]

Barbara Steele has the scariest face. Maybe I think that because of the final shot of Pit and the Pendulum. But she's perfect for horror.

[honeykid]

That would be an interesting movie.

But no, it's parasites. The movie is about mind-controlling parasites.

Strange, there's plenty of films about buildings that 'possess' people, but I can't think of a specific one. :D

[Sexy Celebrity]

You know what we should do? We should watch more of these movies available on Youtube. They've got a lot of ... interesting stuff.

Like, what's this Devil Hunter (1980) that I'm seeing on the side? I see a bunch of naked people.

Lots of really strange stuff available on Youtube.

[honeykid]

How does she know he's knickerless? :D

[honeykid]

You know what we should do? We should watch more of these movies available on Youtube. They've got a lot of ... interesting stuff.

Like, what's this Devil Hunter (1980) that I'm seeing on the side? I see a bunch of naked people.

Lots of really strange stuff available on Youtube.
I've got quite a few bookmarked for these commentaries. I did them ages ago, so I'd have to check to see if they're all still there. But, yes, lots of good stuff there.

[Swan]

Strange, there's plenty of films about buildings that 'possess' people, but I can't think of a specific one. :D

I know there's one... it's called... I can't remember... The Strangling? The Shoe Shine? It'll come to me.

[Sexy Celebrity]

This particular movie just seems too bland so far.

[honeykid]

Now, when he says he removed surgical tape from her lips....

[honeykid]

This particular movie just seems too bland so far.
Until towards the end, I fear that'll be your thoughts.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I used to have The Brood and I got rid of it because I fast forwarded through the movie to see if it looked interesting, and it didn't, so I didn't bother watching it. I do that sometimes. I fast forward through the movie first just to see if it looks like it's worth watching.

[honeykid]

1511? That's nearly a quarter past three. :D

[honeykid]

I used to have The Brood and I got rid of it because I fast forwarded through the movie to see if it looked interesting, and it didn't, so I didn't bother watching it. I do that sometimes. I fast forward through the movie first just to see if it looks like it's worth watching.

I really like The Brood. But, yes, I can see that it wouldn't be your thing.

[Swan]

Cronenberg isn't for everyone. I think he's great, though.

[Swan]

This guy reminds me of Harold Ramis.

[honeykid]

I could just eat a burger and fries. Preferably with a banana milkshake.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I don't wanna watch movies where they don't do much that's visually interesting. If they just sit around and talk -- as they're doing right now in this movie -- I don't care. I don't need talkies. If I wanted a wordy experience, I'll read a book.

[honeykid]

Aw, look at the technology.

[Swan]

You probably shouldn't watch Let's Sit and Talk then, Sexy.

[honeykid]

She still thinks he's not wearing any knickers.

[honeykid]

You're a cab! :D

[honeykid]

He was checking her titties for cancer. In the faculty lounge. Makes it sound like paedo cluedo.

[honeykid]

Anyone else seeing pink elephants?

[honeykid]

Judging by the design of those seats he's walked onto a plane.

[Swan]

Anyone else seeing pink elephants?

Sci-Fi Slob is.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I find it kind of hard to enjoy this because of how '70s it looks. The '70s is just overwhelming here. I think because the movie itself isn't that fascinating.

[honeykid]

The nurse is hot.

[honeykid]

I find it kind of hard to enjoy this because of how '70s it looks. The '70s is just overwhelming here. I think because the movie itself isn't that fascinating.
But that's one of the things I truly love about it. It's so 70's.

[honeykid]

There. Transparent plastic brolly. I don't think I've seen one of those since the early 80's.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I watched Nightmare on Elm Street 4 last night, honeykid. I had to be sure it really deserved to be on my 100 list.

It does. You really should watch it again. It has its faults, but I definitely think it's a better story, at least, than part 3. It's actually a lot like the first Nightmare movie.

[honeykid]

Poor birdie.

[Swan]

The windows fool them!

[honeykid]

I watched Nightmare on Elm Street 4 last night, honeykid. I had to be sure it really deserved to be on my 100 list.

It does. You really should watch it again. It has its faults, but I definitely think it's a better story, at least, than part 3. It's actually a lot like the first Nightmare movie.

Really? I don't remember it like that at all. I rememeber lame kills and uninteresting people. I'll definitely look at it again, though.

[Swan]

Nightmare on Elm Street 3 has Patricia Arquette, so it wins. :D

[honeykid]

Do you think she stores her washing powder there so no one steals it or so she doesn't forget it?

[honeykid]

Nightmare on Elm Street 3 has Patricia Arquette, so it wins. :D

It has Heather Langenkamp in it, so it wins. :D

[honeykid]

Wow. Look at the size of that lollipop. :D

[Sexy Celebrity]

Really? I don't remember it like that at all. I rememeber lame kills and uninteresting people. I'll definitely look at it again, though.

The kills, I have to say, are kind of lame. The best is Debbie turning into a cockroach. That was disturbing.

[honeykid]

Nah, that was rubbish, too. However, from memory, I do think it's probably the best one.

[honeykid]

Old skool ringpulls.

[Swan]

Those kids were very enthusiastic actors.

[honeykid]

Yeah, water. That's all you need to clean blood up.

[honeykid]

Looks like the viagra's kicking in.

[honeykid]

He looks a bit like Gareth Hunt there.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/Mike_Gambit.jpg

[Swan]

Back. Had to get some food.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Nah, that was rubbish, too. However, from memory, I do think it's probably the best one.

I couldn't stop laughing at it. She looked so damn ridiculous with those cockroach arms.

[honeykid]

70's biddily-boddily music.

[Swan]

Women, always trying to help.

[honeykid]

Back. Had to get some food.

I wondered if one/both of you had gone off to do something.

[honeykid]

Hot nurse is back.

[Swan]

HK, you're like 15 seconds ahead of me.

[honeykid]

Pausing.

[honeykid]

Dammit. Now she's naked. I should've paused slightly later. :D

[Sexy Celebrity]

I don't get the appeal of this. Cronenberg is like another Lynch. He obsesses over the same kind of bizarre material. I don't like directors like that. All of their movies just seem the same. John Carpenter is another one like this, too. Only some of their stuff works. The other stuff doesn't.

[Swan]

Boooooooooooooooooooobs.

[honeykid]

Two door? Do he's a coupe? :D

[Swan]

I don't really get the comparison between Cronenberg and Lynch. They seem very different to me.

[honeykid]

Most famous scene in the film?

[Sexy Celebrity]

Background music in this sounds like music from the Michael Jackson Thriller video. That music you hear right before Ola Ray sees Michael turn into Zombie Michael. Before he starts dancing.

[honeykid]

I think he meant that Lynch does weird ****, while Cronenberg does/did body horror and they both made numerous films like that.

[Swan]

The scariest thing about this film? The question of whether or not that wine glass is gonna fall.

[Swan]

I think he meant that Lynch does weird ****, while Cronenberg does/did body horror and they both made numerous films like that.

Eraserhead is a bit Cronenbergian, maybe.

[honeykid]

OK, when a woman says "Don't worry, I'll keep it warm." you say YES!

[Swan]

HK you're ahead of me again. How the hell does that happen? I started it before you!

[honeykid]

If you thought Barbara Steele was scary before...

[Sexy Celebrity]

What Honeykid said is right. I'm not saying they do the same kind of stuff. They're just both weird and they obsess over their issues a lot in their movies. To me, it just seems like they do it to a point where it becomes unoriginal and not that creative.

[Swan]

I wonder how they shot her stepping on glass and had it be safe. Maybe it's plastic?

[honeykid]

I'm telling you, I think it's framerate differences.

[honeykid]

I wonder how they shot her stepping on glass and had it be safe. Maybe it's plastic?

Probably sugar glass.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Other people might like them and share their obsessions, but not I. At least not all the time. If I like any of their movies, it's because they have certain other elements in them that I like. Like the right actor or something. Actors play a huge factor in whether I like the movie or not.

[honeykid]

RUN, MAN, RUN!!!!

[Swan]

I'm hungry for love!

[Sexy Celebrity]

Although that fat woman attacking that guy - "I'M HUNGRY FOR LOVE!" - was kind of funny. Kind of. At least it was interesting.

[Swan]

I want to do this chick



















's hair. It could use some combing.

[Sexy Celebrity]

But see, everything is so limited. Instead of seeing more of the crazy fat woman, it cuts to the "prettier" woman in her kitchen.

[honeykid]

Green light's a sick light.

[Sexy Celebrity]

"A man attacked me! He tried to kiss me!"

"Where is he?!"

"I don't know! I think I killed him!"

You killed a man for trying to kiss you?!

[honeykid]

But see, everything is so limited. Instead of seeing more of the crazy fat woman, it cuts to the "prettier" woman in her kitchen.

Yeah, we like prettier woman. :yup:

As you know, women in peril is a staple horror theme. Sexually aggressive woman isn't .

[honeykid]

I hate animal print.

[honeykid]

"A man attacked me! He tried to kiss me!"

"Where is he?!"

"I don't know! I think I killed him!"

You killed a man for trying to kiss you?!

No, she killed him for attacking her.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Now, see, if a sexually aggressive woman attacked a man and tried to kiss him, the sexually aggressive woman wouldn't be dead for doing so.

[honeykid]

Kill it! Stab it! Kill it with her walker! :D

[honeykid]

Now, see, if a sexually aggressive woman attacked a man and tried to kiss him, the sexually aggressive woman wouldn't be dead for doing so.
That depends on the man, the woman and what he had to hand. :D

[honeykid]

Are those the opening strains of "Let's go die" I hear? :D

[Swan]

The hot nurse was also in Cat People with one of the hottest women ever, Nastassja Kinski.

[honeykid]

There goes another glass.

[honeykid]

More sick green.

[Swan]

The old woman kind of looks like David Lynch.

[Sexy Celebrity]

What was that man in the elevator eating?

[Sexy Celebrity]

So these creatures just make the people sexually ravenous?

[honeykid]

Looked like the world's softest apple. If he treats them in the same way they could be in for quite the treat. :D

[honeykid]

So these creatures just make the people sexually ravenous?
Pretty much. It's how they move from one to another. The point of them was to eliminate peoples higher thinking, allowing them to be more animal.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I see an empty carton of Sprite in that trash dumpster.

[honeykid]

Luckily he fell next to that crowbar. Cos no one's gonna believe he can beat this bloke without it.

[Swan]

For a second I thought that was Scatman Crothers.

Who should really have made his name Scatman Brothers.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Luckily he fell next to that crowbar. Cos no one's gonna believe he can beat this bloke without it.

Why? Cause the other guy is black?

[honeykid]

No, because the other guy looks like he could kick his arse.

[honeykid]

Oh dear. Things aren't looking good for Nick

[honeykid]

There's that weird doll thing.

[Sexy Celebrity]

This reminds me of Jason Goes To Hell, when Jason would put that squiggly monster thing in people's mouths to switch bodies.

[Swan]

Jason Goes to Hell is terrible.

[honeykid]

Just the one lock?

I've not seen Jason Goes To Hell.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Jason Goes to Hell is terrible.

I don't think it's terrible, but the idea behind the film was terrible for the "final" Jason movie.

[honeykid]

Party zombies!

[Swan]

I don't think it's terrible, but the idea behind the film was terrible for the "final" Jason movie.

There's no Jason in it until the very end! How can you have a Friday the 13th without Jason?

[honeykid]

They do in the first one. ;)

[Swan]

They do in the first one. ;)

...

Touche.

[honeykid]

And the fifth.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I've not seen Jason Goes To Hell.

Jason gets blown up by the FBI at the very beginning of the movie. His heart survives. The coroner examining Jason's blown up body eats Jason's heart when he sees it start to beat on its own. The coroner leaves, killing people on the way. The coroner has become Jason through eating the heart. Eventually, the coroner's body grows weak and he has to spit a thing into people's mouths that looks like the worm thing in Shivers in order to switch bodies. The new person becomes Jason. Kills people. Repeat with more people until the worm thing goes up inside the vagina of Jason's dead sister (I think it's his sister). From there, Jason is reborn (at the very end of the film) into his normal body again, complete with hockey mask. Jason's niece kills Jason with a ceremonial dagger through the heart. Demon hands come out of the ground and drag Jason to Hell. Then Freddy Krueger's glove hand comes up and snatches away Jason's mask. THE END.

[Swan]

And the fifth.

Huh? Jason is in the fifth one.

[honeykid]

That sounds bad for a Jason film. But I'd watch it. :D

[honeykid]

And we're back to the sexually aggressive party zombies.

[Swan]

Oh wait. You're right. Jason isn't in the fifth.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'm at lesbians on a couch.

[honeykid]

Lesbians On A Couch would be a great sequel to Snakes On A Plane.

[honeykid]

Hot nurse is looking a little dishevelled

[honeykid]

Mr. Coupe's dead.

[honeykid]

Fkying slugs!!

[Swan]

She had a very disturbing sex dream.

[honeykid]

He's wrenching them off his face.

[Sexy Celebrity]

That woman's saying some deep stuff.

[Swan]

Honeykid, do you agree with Freud that everything has to do with sex? I'm not sure I do.

[honeykid]

Knockout!

[Sexy Celebrity]

Honeykid, do you agree with Freud that everything has to do with sex? I'm not sure I do.

I kind of do.

[honeykid]

Honeykid, do you agree with Freud that everything has to do with sex? I'm not sure I do.

No. But then, I don't agree with a lot of Freud. Bloody useful when you're writing Psychology essays, though, as there's no checking anything. Freud said it. That's enough. D

[Swan]

No. But then, I don't agree with a lot of Freud. Bloody useful when you're writing Psychology essays, though, as there's no checking anything. Freud said it. That's enough. D

I agree with this. :up:

[Sexy Celebrity]

I think there's a lot going on in this world that has to do with sex and sexual symbology that we aren't conscious of most of the time.

[Sexy Celebrity]

It's not our brain or our heart that's at the center of our bodies. It's our sex organs.

[honeykid]

We live in an overtly and overly sexual society, that's for sure.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Sex is a major law of nature. Without it, we do not exist.

[honeykid]

When two naked men are peering at you through a door saying, "Hey! C'mon out" you know where you are.

[Swan]

When two naked men are peering at you through a door saying, "Hey! C'mon out" you know where you are.

Sexy Celebrity's house?

[honeykid]

Possibly, though I think SC is already out. :D

[honeykid]

Worst game of Red Rover ever played.

[honeykid]

Drink the kool aid, man

[Sexy Celebrity]

It doesn't matter that our society is saturated with sex. It's that way because sex is absolutely necessary. It MUST happen. It must take place. Or we don't survive as a species.

[honeykid]

It doesn't matter that our society is saturated with sex. It's that way because sex is absolutely necessary. It MUST happen. It must take place. Or we don't survive as a species.

No, it's that way to make money.

[honeykid]

More blinky blonky music.

[honeykid]

And out they go the little parasitic sex zombies.

[Sexy Celebrity]

No, it's that way to make money.

I don't believe that's the main point at all. I believe that underneath it all, despite the consequence of money making, there is a higher order, an unconscious order, pushing us forward. Driving us to mate.

[honeykid]

Well, that's it. I always really enjoy that film and this was no different.

4

[Swan]

I give it a solid 4 as well. Great movie.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I give it 1.5. I didn't really enjoy it.

[Swan]

Thanks for doing a commentary guys. Unfortunate you didn't like it, Sexy.

[honeykid]

I don't believe that's the main point at all. I believe that underneath it all, despite the consequence of money making, there is a higher order, an unconscious order, pushing us forward. Driving us to mate.

Well of course there is. We're animals. It's nature. However, the reason that our society is saturated, to use your word, with sex is because it's used to sell everything. Money is the reason for it. We like it, we enjoy it, I'm not saying any different. However, the reason it's everywhere is money. Fear's a huge driving force in human evolution, too, which is why that's used so much to sell things, too.

[honeykid]

Had I known that SC was in I wouldn't have picked it because I don't think it's his kind of film.

We'll have to do Blood Feast soon.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Well of course there is. We're animals. It's nature. However, the reason that our society is saturated, to use your word, with sex is because it's used to sell everything. Money is the reason for it. We like it, we enjoy it, I'm not saying any different. However, the reason it's everywhere is money. Fear's a huge driving force in human evolution, too, which is why that's used so much to sell things, too.

You make it seem like sex is merely just a money making machine, though. And you were also saying that sex isn't found basically everywhere, that it's only in society because it generates money. I disagreed with you saying sex isn't found everywhere. I think it is. I think there's sexual symbology all over the place. Phallic monuments, phallic airplanes, vaginal-like structures. It's all pointing to something going on beneath the level of conscious awareness and into Freud's more sexual unconscious.

[honeykid]

I didn't mean to infer that sex is only in society to make money. Obviously that's not the case. Likewise I don't think Freud was completely wrong about everything. However, I don't think aeroplanes are phallic because they're designed by men or whatever. I think they're that shape because it's the most aerodynamical/fuel efficient way for them to be for the job they're designed to do.

This isn't phallic at all.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Wright_Flyer_III_above.jpg/250px-Wright_Flyer_III_above.jpg

But that's the basic design for the first aeroplanes because that's what they had. You can't make huge metal planes and run them on petrol as you can't generate enough thrust. Now, thrust. That's a word Freud would've had a field day with. :D

[Swan]

Sexy, I think you might have schizophrenia. :p

[honeykid]

:facepalm:

[Sexy Celebrity]

You laugh, but David Cronenberg would probably agree with me.

[honeykid]

Then I'd laugh at him as well.

Seeing that something can be sexual isn't the same as it being designed that way or being influenced by it. Planes don't go up because men have penises or erections. Planes go up because that's flying.

Also, my point wasn't that planes aren't phallic shaped. My point was that's not the reason they are.