The Shoutbox
Originally Posted by John McClane
But yeah, that subscription model is awful for us especially when they keep changing their license model. Like I have had to create a new package to reinstall the bull**** every year ever since they started the subscription mode. Youd think we could just update it in place but nooooo. Thatd be too easy and we cant have that.
I update my InDesign in place any time there's an update. Not sure what you're referring to, unless it's a different program in their suite.
Originally Posted by John McClane
Originally Posted by Austruck
Originally Posted by ynwtf
ADOBE IS GREAT
Adobe is expensive. Not a fan of renting InDesign every month. But I'm still reorienting myself to Affinity Publisher (a very good InDesign wannabe), so I can't give up on ID just yet.
THIS. Affinity is an Adobe killer if they keep up the work they are doing.
Affinity is pretty terrific. I got the whole suite at half price about a year-ish ago and love it. I had limited experience with a photo program or a graphics manipulation program, so I didn't have to UN-learn very much to use Photo or Designer. But their Publisher has been harder to get comfortable with because my years/decades of InDesign experience are getting in the way of me finding/adapting.

So I'm still subscribing to ID for now... I gotta just force myself to LEARN the Affinity version better so I can cut the cord.
Originally Posted by ynwtf
I can't argue any of that. I still get frustrated if I think on it. Regarding the Acrobat updates, at this point the only features we use and need to stay current on at the constant updates to 508 compliance and tagging standards. But if it's just PDF export, then I can't blame you for finding a one-time purchase option.
I'm just an independent contractor who does typical things with PDF creators: scribbling on 'em, text boxes, highlighting, creating PDFs out of thin air. Nothing else. My old Acrobat Pro 9.0 was starting to show its age.
But yeah, that subscription model is awful for us especially when they keep changing their license model. Like I have had to create a new package to reinstall the bull**** every year ever since they started the subscription mode. Youd think we could just update it in place but nooooo. Thatd be too easy and we cant have that.
Originally Posted by Austruck
Originally Posted by ynwtf
ADOBE IS GREAT
Adobe is expensive. Not a fan of renting InDesign every month. But I'm still reorienting myself to Affinity Publisher (a very good InDesign wannabe), so I can't give up on ID just yet.
THIS. Affinity is an Adobe killer if they keep up the work they are doing.
*are because I don't want to deal with editing it.
I can't argue any of that. I still get frustrated if I think on it. Regarding the Acrobat updates, at this point the only features we use and need to stay current on at the constant updates to 508 compliance and tagging standards. But if it's just PDF export, then I can't blame you for finding a one-time purchase option.
Originally Posted by ynwtf
Originally Posted by Austruck
Originally Posted by ynwtf
ADOBE IS GREAT
Adobe is expensive. Not a fan of renting InDesign every month. But I'm still reorienting myself to Affinity Publisher (a very good InDesign wannabe), so I can't give up on ID just yet.
Yes, I agree the subscription crap was horrible for individuals and smaller businesses. Their pricing scheme assumes we update every 18 months minimum. We often went 2-4 years before upgrades in most of our apps. Now, we're bound to the subscription just for contract requirements that need the latest but as a single user it really is horrible. I do love the apps though =\
Oh, I love InDesign and I'm dragging my feet trying to learn the differences in Affinity's suite so I can cut the Adobe cord. ID is just so ingrained in how I think about layout now.

But yeah, even if it IS tax deductible, for me it's just over $20 a month for InDesign alone!
Originally Posted by ynwtf
really annoys me that coworkers always call Acrobat "Adobe." Like, "Hey, yn? Do you have Adobe installed? I need a PDF." I YELL at them with, "YOU DON'T OPEN MICROSOFT TO MAKE A PPT, DO YOU?!"
Ha! I don't make those mistakes, since I've been using InDesign and *full* Acrobat for a long time. I did just give up on Acrobat for Foxit PDF, though. I'm a fan of one-time purchases where I can get them without losing features I need.
Originally Posted by Austruck
Originally Posted by ynwtf
ADOBE IS GREAT
Adobe is expensive. Not a fan of renting InDesign every month. But I'm still reorienting myself to Affinity Publisher (a very good InDesign wannabe), so I can't give up on ID just yet.
Yes, I agree the subscription crap was horrible for individuals and smaller businesses. Their pricing scheme assumes we update every 18 months minimum. We often went 2-4 years before upgrades in most of our apps. Now, we're bound to the subscription just for contract requirements that need the latest but as a single user it really is horrible. I do love the apps though =\
really annoys me that coworkers always call Acrobat "Adobe." Like, "Hey, yn? Do you have Adobe installed? I need a PDF." I YELL at them with, "YOU DON'T OPEN MICROSOFT TO MAKE A PPT, DO YOU?!"