[quote=WHITBISSELL!][quote=Yoda]This was the result of me trying to fix an issue with the editor last night/this morning. It should be back to normal now (might require a hard refresh). Sorry about that.

Unrelated to the reboot, either way.[/quote]:up:[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]i made the mistake of starting [i]Outlander[/i].[/quote]

[quote=Wyldesyde19][quote=crumbsroom][quote=Wyldesyde19]Super hero films have become their own sub genre by now. [/quote]

The issue is film, at least in the mainstream, has completely stagnated. It could have been any sub-genre that did this. But now studios dumbheads have pounced and viewers appear to now be at an apathetic low of never wanting to be challenged again.

All Scorsese is appealing to is for audiences to break out of the apathy that only one kind of film matters anymore.

Also, he's old, so of course it comes out as a crank mad that things are changing. But he's old and right.[/quote]
I don’t disagree with much of this. What’s curious is that everyone is acting like this is some recent phenomenon. It isn’t. Go back to the 60’s, where the Kaiju and spaghetti westerns (especially) spawned numerous films throughout the decade to the point it reached saturation. Giallo followed suit in the 70’s, and the slashers of the 80’s was perhaps the most egregious example.all were cashed in to make a quick buck and were wrongly derided back in their day. Yet the blame somehow falls squarely on the makers of super hero films.  Super hero films are the most recent cycle. And these things are cyclical. Much like the previous sub genres I mentioned, it’s a matter of time before they no longer capture anyone’s imagination and it’s on to the next thing.  
Do those linger on in some form yet?  Sure, but not nearly as they had been during their hey day.[/quote]

[quote=crumbsroom][quote=Wyldesyde19]Super hero films have become their own sub genre by now. [/quote]

The issue is film, at least in the mainstream, has completely stagnated. It could have been any sub-genre that did this. But now studios dumbheads have pounced and viewers appear to now be at an apathetic low of never wanting to be challenged again.

All Scorsese is appealing to is for audiences to break out of the apathy that only one kind of film matters anymore.

Also, he's old, so of course it comes out as a crank mad that things are changing. But he's old and right.[/quote]

[quote=crumbsroom][quote=doubledenim][font=century gothic]While I see where he is coming from, who gets to decide what type of movie for what type of person is worthy?[/font][/quote]

Is he saying that?

Yes, he's saying he mostly doesn't think they are very good as 'cinema' (and, even though he's mostly correct, we can argue this).

But that's not the ultimate point. The take away is the homogenization of film to the point that it is becoming more and more irrelevant outside of this particular cinema experience.[/quote]

[quote=Wyldesyde19][quote=crumbsroom]I hope Scorsese fires these shots every couple of years. Because he's right. But of course the media likes to zero in on specific phrases or words he uses (like how comic book movies are 'danger' to society), so once again the nuance of what hes saying will be completely swallowed up.

Now all of this is, of course, the complete opposite of Ebert's take on video games, which was exactly as stupid and ignorant as most people took it to be.[/quote]

I want to highlight something he said that will be probably get ignored by the media.
“And that doesn’t mean that you don’t have incredible directors and special effects people doing beautiful artwork. But what does it mean? What do these films, what will it give you?”

He’s not wrong, but at the same time he’s ignoring who the target audience is for this.  Also ignores themes some of these (not all) explore and I’ve always been big on themes.  I’m thinking The Dark Knight trilogy, the first 2 Superman films and so on.  
I think cinema has become overly reliant on CGI. Comic book movies are fine. They have their place, as much as horror and sci fi before them.  Super hero films have become their own sub genre by now. 
We can argue over whether they’re art or not, but that’s never been a defining characteristic as to what cinema is.[/quote]

[quote=Yoda][quote=WHITBISSELL!][quote=Yoda]Just rebooted the server, hoping it'll clear up a few odd lag issues this morning.[/quote]Would that have anything to do with the posting glitches? You can format a somewhat lengthy review such as space out your text and make paragraphs and so forth. But once you post it or try and preview it they go back to one large clump of text.[/quote]
This was the result of me trying to fix an issue with the editor last night/this morning. It should be back to normal now (might require a hard refresh). Sorry about that.

Unrelated to the reboot, either way.[/quote]

[quote=John W Constantine][quote=Sedai]Scorsese out there throwing punches again![/quote]
F around, find out[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]Do ye even have ask? Tis almighty dollar![/quote]

[quote=doubledenim][quote=crumbsroom]I hope Scorsese fires these shots every couple of years. Because he's right. But of course the media likes to zero in on specific phrases or words he uses (like how comic book movies are 'danger' to society), so once again the nuance of what hes saying will be completely swallowed up.

Now all of this is, of course, the complete opposite of Ebert's take on video games, which was exactly as stupid and ignorant as most people took it to be.[/quote]

[font=century gothic]While I see where he is coming from, who gets to decide what type of movie for what type of person is worthy?[/font][/quote]

[quote=doubledenim][quote=John McClane]rental car prices are insane[/quote]

[font=century gothic]And I thought Panera was getting out of hand.[/font][/quote]