[quote=JoaoRodrigues]Oh, I also made hats in FEPSA. The best hats on the planet are Portuguese, they are made in the North. But I can't claim I can do a hat. They had to make cuts, people don't use hats like they did before. Around 2009, my company where I was working made the hats for the movie Public Enemies.[/quote]

[quote=JoaoRodrigues]I can use my hands, I inherited that from my family I guess, they are almost all carpenters, they make doors, tables, anything that is made of wood. I distanced myself from the branch, my mother was a gaspie, sewing shoe, I was a cutter is the most demanding part of the manufacture. I was a welder, steel for a while, didn't really liked, I don't like steel is dangerous, cold and dirty. Making shoes is an easy profession to romanticize, Daniel Day Lewis made shoes in Italy some people remember this, but the truth is that it is a profession that normally has a rather bad work environment, whether in large or small factories.[/quote]

[quote=Chypmunk]Making shoes is a lasting skill.[/quote]

[quote=MijaFrost][quote=JoaoRodrigues]Talking about shoes, I'm lucky on that aspect, Portugal make the best shoes there is, sometimes you think you are wearing Italian made shoes and they actually are made in Portugal with Italian design. I can spend 40 euros on shoes that you would pay four times more somewhere else, they also last very long, they don't fall apart with holes and all that, the leather gets deformed eventually but that's normal. Also here you pay very little for a shoemaker intervention.[/quote]

That's convenient. I did buy shoes while in Italy and they lasted me several years, so I can attest to their quality.

It's cool you worked as a shoe manufacturer as well, that's an interesting skill.[/quote]

[quote=ynwtf][quote=Chypmunk][quote=ynwtf]lol
No R Kelly reference?
;)[/quote]

Prolly didn't think it would fly on here.
Only Rodent would know for Cher though :shrug:[/quote]


Bono you dih'n![/quote]

[quote=Velvet]wet like wonton[/quote]

[quote=Chypmunk][quote=ynwtf]lol
No R Kelly reference?
;)[/quote]

Prolly didn't think it would fly on here.
Only Rodent would know for Cher though :shrug:[/quote]

[quote=ynwtf]lol
No R Kelly reference?
;)[/quote]

[quote=The Rodent][quote=ynwtf]*believe[/quote]

I do I do!

[quote=ynwtf]*believe[/quote]

I do I do![/quote]

[quote=ynwtf]*believe[/quote]

[quote=ynwtf]I would add that simply [I]not feeling content[/I] is a throw-away dismissal of the emotional despair one feels to even consider suicide. Yes, perspective can help. The other, more likely thought process of reflecting on one's troubles as compared to others' and how they manage to survive those troubles could be that the person then feels guilty and weak. I mean, hell, if everyone else on Earth can manage to sort their troubles and endure, then that's even more reason to belief that "I am defective." In comparison to others, then one must be weaker to feel overwhelmed to the point of considering suicide. That may then reinforce the negative perspective of life and their use in it. Kinda the opposite of the intended effect. 

That kinda of perspective can be as simple as saying, "I know you hate the taste of apples, but I think they're good so just eat them. You will enjoy it because I do."[/quote]