[quote=John McClane][quote=ynwtf]Specialized Loan Servicing? 
Street League Skateboarding? 
Society of Laparoscopy??
Selective Laser Sintering???[/quote]
Space Launch System. NASA's in-house money pit[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]and keep in mind, Starship isn't even capable of leaving our sphere of influence yet. there are a right many things that they have still yet to consider. like i fully get what they did today was historic, but SpaceX is first and foremost a rocket company. will they be able to pivot to the necessary next steps? we will have to wait and see[/quote]

[quote=ynwtf]Specialized Loan Servicing? 
Street League Skateboarding? 
Society of Laparoscopy??
Selective Laser Sintering???[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]which is kinda insane given that we already have [url=https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19720005243/downloads/19720005243.pdf]THIS[/url] roadmap[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]but i think we can both agree that anybody still arguing for the SLS needs to have their head checked.[/quote]

[quote=John McClane][quote=Sedai]That's dismissive and reductive, and sort of minimizes the blood, sweat and tears of everyone else involved.

Really, really bad take.

Straight up wrong, also. Time to stop letting Elon rent all that space in your dome![/quote]nah, i think it's quite on point with the new reality of space travel. no one cares.

it's tough to have wonder for any of it when the guy that is spearheading most of the developments is obsessing about a pseudo-gender war and flagrantly contributing to the de-education of society. if anything, i feel sorry for all them employees. but yeah, sure, they put a big tube up in space and brought it back. woo![/quote]

[quote=FilmBuff][img]https://y.yarn.co/60642dc1-5bad-4419-80a6-9f328a97ae7d_text.gif[/img][/quote]

[quote=Sedai]That's dismissive and reductive, and sort of minimizes the blood, sweat and tears of everyone else involved.

Really, really bad take.

Straight up wrong, also. Time to stop letting Elon rent all that space in your dome![/quote]

[quote=John McClane]like, i can go back and watch the Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, and STS launches and say to myself "damn, that is amazing. look at what we did."

with Starship all it generates in me is a meh. there's no vision, and there's no greater good. there's nothing but the ego of a troubled man.[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]my argument is essentially the following: Elon is not for the collective good.

is it good for space travel? yes.

it it good for humanity? debatable.[/quote]