[quote=John McClane]The important question is how can it be a conservative movie if it doesn’t have John Wayne or Charlton Heston in it, eh?[/quote]

[quote=Yoda]Wow, I didn't even notice. I had no idea what you were counting down to.

Nice. :up:[/quote]

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[quote=Iroquois][quote=Velvet]also intresting they included Team America. I havent seen it but if it in any way reflects south park I would say its definitely more in the middle than conservative as south parks basically goes after every side[/quote]

Yeah, but a recurrent criticism of Parker/Stone stuff in recent years is that these attack-all-sides approaches they take still can't help but default to one side or another - often further right than left. [i]Team America[/i] ostensibly starts as a satire of U.S. military intervention but halfway through it switches to mocking left-wing celebrities and how their idealistic pacifism make them easily manipulated by the film's genocidal dictator villain - thus necessitating Team America's intervention.[/quote]

[quote=mattiasflgrtll6]It takes a lot for me to really label something "a conservative movie". Usually if I like a movie that much, I don't even think about it being conservative. Gran Torino is still one hell of a great movie if it happens to contain conservative elements.[/quote]

[quote=Yoda]I've heard people say that. They argue their are actually lots of conservative movies, but they do it by defining "conservative" in a really broad way that encompasses near-universal moral principles, or all of Western cultural values, or whatever.[/quote]

[quote=Velvet]Just because a film has a classic good vs evil does it make it a conservative film?[/quote]

[quote=Velvet]I wish I was in a fantasy football league just to play mitch trubisky against the patriots. I have a feeling he is going to go off though I may be wrong[/quote]