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In case you missed it. This is what I was going on about in the first place. McClane posted it yesterday and personally I'm not interested in another discussion about "Gettin right with Jesus". the issue here for me is whether or not these parents should be held upside down by their naughty bits for essentially killing their child.
Originally Posted by Yoda
I think there's a leap in logic here. Belief in God's technical ability to heal in no way infers that we should be totally reliant on it. That's the part of their beliefs that's crazy.
Originally Posted by John McClane
I always find this quite funny coming from a religious person because they are just as guilty as I am when I say people who believe in God are crazy. I mean, if they *honestly* believe it they can't very well be crazy. Unless of course you're willing to surrender the notion that faith in God is crazy. Which I'd fine that hard pressed for any Christian to do.
Originally Posted by John McClane
I never said they were normal Christians.
Originally Posted by Yoda
They absolutely are crazy religious people.
For evidence of this, see: the 99.9% of Christians who go to the doctor.
"Faith in your partner, your fellow men, your friends, is very important, because without it there's no mutual component to your relationship, and relationships are important. So faith plays an important role, but faith in people you don't know, faith in religious or political leaders or even people on stages, people who are popular in the public eye, you shouldn't have faith in those people. You should listen to what they have to say and use it." -Greg Graffin
Faith is certainly not unreasonable, and McClane only gets to decide what he thinks is unreasonable, not what actually is unreasonable, a decision that can only be made by, of course...ME!
Originally Posted by John McClane
Originally Posted by Powdered Water
How is what the did anything other than murder?
Just normal people that *actually* believe in that mumbo jumbo. Irrational thought processes like this form when we fancy faith over reason. But hey, I'm just sayin'...
And yet you probably think you don't "take anything on faith," as the saying goes. So I'm guessing that whatever elements of your worldview are based on faith are things you'd find a way to categorize differently.
I reeeeally dislike the assumption that faith (as you define it, usually a belief in God) is by definition unreasonable.