[quote=John McClane]We're f***ed.[/quote]

[quote=Iroquois]Oh, for f*ck's sake.[/quote]

[quote=Captain Steel]WHOOOOOOO! HOOOOOOOOO!!![/quote]

[quote=rauldc14][quote=John McClane]No there wouldn't.[/quote]
Yes.

http://ivn.us/2012/11/01/why-5-matters-to-gary-johnson/[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]No there wouldn't.[/quote]

[quote=rauldc14][quote=Naisy]Can someone explain the point in voting for Gary Johnson? He was never a contender. 1.5 Million votes which will essentially do nothing.[/quote]
If he got over 5% there would be federal funding for a third party and then they could be a part of the debates.[/quote]

[quote=Naisy]Can someone explain the point in voting for Gary Johnson? He was never a contender. 1.5 Million votes which will essentially do nothing.[/quote]

[quote=The Rodent][quote=Friendly Mushroom!][quote=Austruck][quote=Yoda]Yeah, but there are pockets of areas where one candidate dominates, where literally a half-mile away, out of sight, the exact opposite happens.

When I'm at home I'm surrounded by Clinton signs. The only Trump sign I've seen was literally sticking out of a trash can. Then I drive to work and there are Trump signs everywhere.[/quote]
A little further west of you, it is all Trump signs. I've driven a hundred-mile diameter around the house in recent weeks. I've seen exactly two Clinton yard signs and hundreds upon hundreds of Trump signs. 

Of course, the Clinton folks could be afraid to put out signs.

Oh, and I've seen exactly zero bumper stickers for either candidate. Nobody wants to make that big a commitment, apparently. :D[/quote]

Ohioans near me use bumper stickers all the time for any issue.[/quote]


I don't get why you 'mericans use signs and stickers for this sort of thing.
In the UK it's a given that you never tell anyone what you're voting for, and have voted for, once the election has happened.[/quote]

[quote=Tacitus]I wonder how many votes 'None of the above, let's start this whole thing over' would get if it was on the ballot?[/quote]

[quote=Friendly Mushroom!][quote=Austruck][quote=Yoda]Yeah, but there are pockets of areas where one candidate dominates, where literally a half-mile away, out of sight, the exact opposite happens.

When I'm at home I'm surrounded by Clinton signs. The only Trump sign I've seen was literally sticking out of a trash can. Then I drive to work and there are Trump signs everywhere.[/quote]
A little further west of you, it is all Trump signs. I've driven a hundred-mile diameter around the house in recent weeks. I've seen exactly two Clinton yard signs and hundreds upon hundreds of Trump signs. 

Of course, the Clinton folks could be afraid to put out signs.

Oh, and I've seen exactly zero bumper stickers for either candidate. Nobody wants to make that big a commitment, apparently. :D[/quote]

Ohioans near me use bumper stickers all the time for any issue.[/quote]

[quote=The Rodent][quote=Tacitus]Dunno what it is about an open fire (and I've had plenty of houses with either electric or gas things in the fireplace) which is so appealing.

My mum says it's 'heartsome', whatever that means. ;)

Maybe it speaks to the innate nature of blokes to tinker with things and pretend that they've actually accomplished something significant. See also: Barbecues.[/quote]

There's something primeval about fire tbh.
Having an actual fire going, whether in a fireplace or in your garden, sitting by a fire you've created is probably the most pure thing a person can do.
BBQs as well. Cooking over a fire outdoors.[/quote]