[quote=Sedai][quote=John McClane][quote=Sedai]Sadly, there is now an extra level of creep-factor regarding the relationship between Lester and Angela. It was already creepy, but now it's extra creepy. 

I was more of a fan of American Beauty when it was released, but have kind of gotten away from it over the years.[/quote]
As opposed to peeing in your soup creepy, yeah?[/quote]

Did my cat put you up to this?[/quote]

[quote=Sedai][quote=Iroquois][quote=Sedai]Fight Club > American Beauty[/quote]

Clearly no appreciation for the truly superior "I hate my boring late-'90s corporate job" film, [i]Office Space[/i].[/quote]

Classic flick that I watch quite frequently, and even more frequently quote at work...[/quote]

[quote=Iroquois][quote=Sedai]Fight Club > American Beauty[/quote]

Clearly no appreciation for the truly superior "I hate my boring late-'90s corporate job" film, [i]Office Space[/i].[/quote]

[quote=John McClane][quote=Sedai]Sadly, there is now an extra level of creep-factor regarding the relationship between Lester and Angela. It was already creepy, but now it's extra creepy. 

I was more of a fan of American Beauty when it was released, but have kind of gotten away from it over the years.[/quote]
As opposed to peeing in your soup creepy, yeah?[/quote]

[quote=Iroquois][quote=doubledenim][font=century gothic]I don't say this in jest. It may be a blessing (for me) to not be as insightful, observant, articulate and having to internalize those issues.

Like I feel insecure about loving [b]Drive[/b] now. A dude, an angel, a kid wanting toothpicks and an atmosphere. If there are issues in that movie, I don't process or understand them and I can't pretend to, because of a lack of whatever on my part.

I do know that I'm wearing my Scorpion jacket to a Hornets game and I'm gonna find a parking deck to walk out of and...:D[/font][/quote]

I reckon it's personal growth to realise that stuff I like has problems that I can either learn to accept or consider grounds for dismissal, but to ignore it (consciously or not)...I'd rather not. I know my favourites well enough that I could rattle off completely negative reviews of every single one of them just for the hell of it.[/quote]

[quote=Sedai]Sadly, there is now an extra level of creep-factor regarding the relationship between Lester and Angela. It was already creepy, but now it's extra creepy. 

I was more of a fan of American Beauty when it was released, but have kind of gotten away from it over the years.[/quote]

[quote=ash_is_the_gal]i'd rather rewatch american beauty i think, though.  it entertains me all the way through, whereas i start getting ho hum in fight club when it turns into project mayhem[/quote]

[quote=Sedai]Fight Club > American Beauty[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]I made a budget for the first time ever this morning.

It felt great to do it, but then I saw how much my car costs (51% of my budget for insurance and loan) and I almost vomited. :D[/quote]

[quote=doubledenim][font=century gothic]I don't say this in jest. It may be a blessing (for me) to not be as insightful, observant, articulate and having to internalize those issues.

Like I feel insecure about loving [b]Drive[/b] now. A dude, an angel, a kid wanting toothpicks and an atmosphere. If there are issues in that movie, I don't process or understand them and I can't pretend to, because of a lack of whatever on my part.

I do know that I'm wearing my Scorpion jacket to a Hornets game and I'm gonna find a parking deck to walk out of and...:D[/font][/quote]

[quote=Iroquois][quote=doubledenim][font=century gothic]Because I don't have any other reference than GB, sorry.

I don't care about any of the social issues with GB, none of that stuff really resonated with me when I saw it. It's just not a good movie, yet the conversation about it seems to push it towards the top.

Seriously, just watch the (great, great comedian) Maniscalco scenes. They break the movie. You can't win an Oscar with scenes like that...

I don't care about the politics. There are people that think [b]Drive[/b] is garbage and I live with that daily :)[/font][/quote]

I would say its lack of sociopolitical resonance [i]is[/i] what makes it bad - the concepts are not mutually exclusive, after all.

Besides, movies with terrible scenes have won Oscars before and [i]Drive[/i] has its own questionable politics that make me think significantly less of it, but what can you do.[/quote]