[quote=Chypmunk]Jelly should only ever be paired with ice-cream imo and certainly never with anything in a sandwich :sick:[/quote]

[quote=CringeFest]Wow, people are gettin' real outta line here, could we stop talking about sandwiches? That's such a polarizing subject matter. My father's side of the family has depended on deli meats for generations now, and my mother's side of the family only knows how to eat PB&J, can we bring some civility to the discussion here?[/quote]

[quote=Mr Minio]I never ate a peanut butter and jelly sandwich in my entire life.[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]Tell me you hate grape jelly without saying I hate grape jelly.[/quote]

[quote=Mr Minio]Yeah, Russia acts the exact same way it always did. But there is no way to talk about that without bringing up politics or at least lots of history smudged in politics. I'm not doing that in view of Yoda's plea to not talk about politics anymore.

As far as the war goes, all you folks who live in a NATO country do not really have to worry. Russia attacking any NATO country would mean a war with the entirety of NATO. One can imagine how well would Russia fare in such a war given how they do against Ukraine alone (admittedly, with lots of help from the West but still alone).[/quote]

[quote=CringeFest][quote=AgrippinaX] A lot of my immediate family has already been affected and I’m not seeing any balanced takes in the discussions here - or anywhere else, to be fair. [/quote]

i don't see much of a cold utilitarian purpose to internet dialogue beyond maybe adding another piece to the puzzle. Some things are so extreme and in-your-face they can't really be "balanced".[/quote]

[quote=Mr Minio]For the record, whether or not other countries broke Geneva Conventions in the past does not matter when discussing the contemporary conflict. Whataboutism of this kind is an oft-used one, historically. As a matter of fact, "And you are lynching Negroes" was a popular retort in the Soviet Union.

Fear is a natural reaction. After all, Russia has nuclear weapons. But even Russia's name for the mobilization of nuclear weaponry is called a deterrent. Historically, nuclear weapons were used to rather wreak fear than wreak havoc. Yes, there are still some dregs of a chance that Putin will decide to resort to a nuke, but there's hope that his subordinates will finally stand up to him in such a case. After all, it's totally unreasonable to risk a nuclear war over Ukraine. I'd definitely stop worrying (I know it's easy to say...). If nukes won't be used, there's little reason for fear. If they will, there soon won't be any reason for fear.[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]Now back to my PB&J. If you're using grape jelly you are doing it all wrong. :yup:[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]As someone who studied Russia in college I am far more informed about the internal specifics than the average citizen. These current events are very much on point for Russia within a historical context, and I will agree with you that the news ain't balanced. But when was it ever?[/quote]

[quote=AgrippinaX][quote=John McClane]Re thermobaric weapons: I feel like the USA doesn't have much right to criticize their usage given that we dropped the largest one in history 20 years ago. But yeah, my take on that is definitely getting into political territory, so I will quietly take my leave now.[/quote]

I’m not against politics or it being discussed. I bloody work in politics (and to this end, I find it more probable than some that a nuclear war actually could break out tomorrow). I just find it hilarious that threads get closed for vague mentions of “liberal prescriptivism”, but everyone feels at liberty to discuss this without having the slightest clue about the internal specifics. A lot of my immediate family has already been affected and I’m not seeing any balanced takes in the discussions here - or anywhere else, to be fair. The Russians who are being referred below as committing “war crimes” genuinely believe that “NATO is at our doorstep and is threatening Russia’s security” and that Putin is essentially working off his own version of “stand your ground” (an amalgamation of the bullshit my mother’s childhood friends have been feeding her). When you try to explain how INSANE that is, I’m assumed to be brainwashed by “the liberals” (despite being openly right-wing). I haven’t heard of a single Russian person who isn’t explicitly pro this shit. They are literally cheering. 

To Mr Minio: so far I haven’t been able to switch my brain into meditation mode to appreciate YouTube videos or my garden or hot chocolate. You know, at first I was saying the same thing to my hysterical relatives, ie chill out and be grateful you’re not there. Then I came into the office last Tuesday and the CEO said in my face “See you next week, please don’t invade”. He did apologise, but everyone seems to think that’s totally cool. I see the same attitude below.[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]Yeah, we don't stand for those anti-PB&Jers. With their deli meats and nitrates.[/quote]