The next nutless little phlegm-ball to negative rep me...

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At least say which post it was so I can rule myself out of the running!

Seriously though, that's the problem with this 'anonymous rep' gubbins. I much preferred it the way things were but accept that the amount of rep some people could hand out could unfairly inflate or cripple someone's score (if that sort of thing matters to you), especially those new to the site.

Losing the anonymity but keeping the 'one point for everyone' rule would be the best of both worlds, and stop negging without any apparent justification.

For those who disagree with me, let me just say this: After nearly 3 years here I'm still struggling with the point of actually giving negative rep. Praising someone, yes, rewarding them in some sort of way, yes.

I'm not gonna be a hypocrite and say that I don't give negative rep (I do, but in nowhere near the quantities that I give positive points) but I try to limit it to posts which I feel are just plain stupid or ill-mannered - not because I merely share a differing opinion about a topic.
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I think it's amusing...most of the time I know exactly who neg-repped me.*giggles*
Most of the time we have a fairly good idea, true, but I'll play devil's advocate here and say that if repping ceased to be anonymous then debates might be opened up because those who disagree with posts would be forced to say 'why' instead of hiding behind the cyber-cloak of justice and truth...

EDIT - If this annoys the wallflowers then there ain't much I can do...

That's only just occurred to me, actually.

Oh, and before anyone thinks that I've got some sort of personal anti-neg rep agenda goin' on, my rep is thus:

Positive: 595
Negative: 15

It ain't easy being so damned right! *cough*



You're just well mannered.

Positive: 192
Negative: 128



I must confess, sometimes I don't leave a comment when I neg-rep someone...not to stay anonymous tho, I'm just too lazy...



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I must confess, sometimes I don't leave a comment when I neg-rep someone...not to stay anonymous tho, I'm just too lazy...
Neither do I, which is why I don't want to be a hypocrite here. I like to think that I've made my feelings perfectly plain in the thread concerned, though.

A couple of people (and no, not the thread starter in case anyone's wondering) have commented to me at the apparently random nature they'd been neg-repped. Not recently, though, we're talking 2006 here so hopefully that aspect has calmed down.



I didn't know phlegm-balls had nuts, so wouldn't this be a compliment to the ball of lung-snot?
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Though some of it just makes me laugh, or puzzled at what really deserved neg rep, either way, it's all anonymous so can't do anything about it.

And most my negative rep comes from Jrs.

Tbh Sammy, i thought this thread was a joke when i opened.
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Ah! It wasn't me.

Anyway, there are definitely downsides to anonymous rep. The prime motivation behind it being anonymous, however, was to encourage more negative repping. That sounds backwards, but the old rep system quickly devolved into a series of points for birthdays and off-color jokes, when the original intent was to highlight insight and potentially obscure posts that were rude or simply illogical. Unfortunately, we never really got enough of a balance between these two to implement most of the ideas I had in mind.

Per usual, though, the system is an evolutionary one, and I'm certainly open to the idea of removing the system's anonymity. I don't think a comment should be required, though, as it would discourage neg repping even when warranted, and a great many posts get neg rep for obvious reasons anyway.

I certainly share your curiousity in wanting to know who repped me for this or that, but I usually let what I hope is my better judgment prevail in the hope that more balanaced, honest rep will result when
people aren't as concerned about having to defend it.

What say you, MoFos?



I think a bit of moderation is the key. Anything more than say a neg rep or two against the same person in a given time should remove the anonyminty, a warning or something could let them know that they are about to neg rep a certain person for the "xth" time and that they will be exposed. That way you can give a quick neg-rep to those who "you" think derserve it without worrying about a backlash neg-rep or an argument and you arent allowed to badger them with bad-rep dings all the time without being called out.



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I mostly hand out positive rep, unless it's Adidass. I am prejudiced against flatulent elves that live in snow globes that make me sneeze. Have at you, you pointy hatted, globe dwelling, Huldufolk!

(that's Dutch for elf)

I mean, come on! How can you not Neg Rep this:

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I mean, come on! How can you not Neg Rep this:

Adidasss really looks like this? He's adorable! Short, Christmasy and handsome!



I like the idea of users only being able to give single points, removes the elitism and difficulty breaking in. Wouldn't mind user ratings, think that encouraged me more than anything to rep or post more. The anonymity doesn't bother me except on neg reps when can't see justification for it in my post.



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I think a bit of moderation is the key. Anything more than say a neg rep or two against the same person in a given time should remove the anonyminty, a warning or something could let them know that they are about to neg rep a certain person for the "xth" time and that they will be exposed. That way you can give a quick neg-rep to those who "you" think derserve it without worrying about a backlash neg-rep or an argument and you arent allowed to badger them with bad-rep dings all the time without being called out.
Post of the day! I've read at least 6 today so know what I'm talking about.

Going back to my teaching days (wake up at the back!), we would only award gold stars for good behaviour - red stars for bad behaviour were soon banned. Not only did it discriminate against gingers but giving a visual record for good behaviour/work was far more productive and incentivising for the more wayward pupils than constantly highlighting their slip-ups.

So if anyone can untangle my logic here you'd eventually see that I could happily live without the option to give negative rep. Why highlight daft posts at all?

I taught 10 year olds, by the way. Giving a gold star to a teenage rugby player is faintly ridiculous and more than a little camp...



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To clarify my position:

Pyro: I overstated my position in hopes it would be obvious that I'm not taking the whole thing enormously seriously, but that said, I do wish people weren't nutless little phlegm balls. heh

Yods: call me Miss Sally, but I still don't see where encouraging negativity is such a good idea, and anonymous negativity tends to just make the recipient feel like it's coming from everywhere, because it could be coming from anywhere. There's no way to address the rep point without sounding like you're all balled up over points and paranoia, and you find yourself in a position to guess what the person had an issue with in the first place. So whatever conversation was going on doesn't benefit at all.

Mostly though: getting negative rep doesn't bother me (much) in terms of my 'score'. I have rep to burn, frankly - I once asked Yoda to remove a hundred or so posts off my rep, just because it seemed overly inflated to me. The problem is that there are people taking the rep route in lieu of actual discussion. I'm here to interact with people, discuss ideas, have the occasional debate - not to have my opinions graded. I enjoy having an intelligent discussion with a person when they disagree with me about something, and I feel like that's getting left in the dust in favor of the rep thing.

Repping instead of responding = lame.



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I have + 15 and - 3.

I dont quite see the point off this reputation thing. I get negatives for saying I didn't like Apocalypse Now. =/



I'm not old, you're just 12.
The problem is that there are people taking the rep route in lieu of actual discussion. I'm here to interact with people, discuss ideas, have the occasional debate - not to have my opinions graded.
Repping instead of responding = lame.
Yeah, I had the same thing happen to me, I said I didn't like The Breakfast Club, and suddenly, hey look! Negative rep points instead of asking me to elaborate! genuis! I dunno, I know when i deserve them, and sometimes thats often, but for piddling stuff like that, no.



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