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Trinity looked good in those tight pants. She has a butter face, though
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Originally Posted by adidasss
c'mon sammy....ok, i don't believe God came down from heaven and had sex till he fathered enough children so that the human race can thrive and procreate by themselves...i believe He created life, but not in the literal biblical sense that He created Adam and Eve who then populated the earth. He created the spark of life out of nothing.
Poppycock. God has never revealed how He created the Universe, just that He did.

and as austruck explained, Jesus Christ was sinless, that's what we as christians believe, he was God and therefore beyond the reach of carnal desire.
If he was married, it wasn't a sin.

this book does not only take away that quality of Him, but it also negates the crucifixion and the resurrection, something our entire faith is built on, that Jesus Christ died for our sins, was resurrected therefore creating the possibility for all those who believe in His divinity to be resurrected too...
No, it doesn't. Where are you getting this?

and just like austruck, it's not that i haven't read the book and will not be seeing the film because i'm afraid it could undermine my faith, i just find it offensive and i sure as hell ain't paying for it. i don't believe i recall anything so blasphemous put on screen or in writing....
Ok. That's fine. But I think you're ascribing points to this book that the book never makes. I also have to say: I think you're swallowing things in a big lump that you'd do well to consider individually.

If there is a God, s/he has afforded you no firm knowledge of his/her intents and processes, so that you can question things. Just because someone wearing robes said it, doesn't mean you have to accept it without a second (or a first) thought. This is a basic principle of christian faith. I'd think it would be one you'd appreciate.


On a side note: the submit button now says "Make it So, #1". That is awesome!!!
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Originally Posted by Sedai
Trinity looked good in those tight pants. She has a butter face, though
aaahaha! I haven't heard anyone else use that expression in years.



Originally Posted by SamsoniteDelilah
aaahaha! I haven't heard anyone else use that expression in years.
Tight Pants?
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Originally Posted by SamsoniteDelilah
Poppycock. God has never revealed how He created the Universe, just that He did.


If he was married, it wasn't a sin.


No, it doesn't. Where are you getting this?
correct me if i'm wrong, but i heard that according to the book, Jesus married Mary Magdalen and they went to live happily ever after in the south of France, making plenty of babies and what not....i just concluded that that meant He didn't in fact, according to the book, die on the cross and get ressurected....am i wrong to assume that?

Originally Posted by SamsoniteDelilah
Ok. That's fine. But I think you're ascribing points to this book that the book never makes. I also have to say: I think you're swallowing things in a big lump that you'd do well to consider individually.

If there is a God, s/he has afforded you no firm knowledge of his/her intents and processes, so that you can question things. Just because someone wearing robes said it, doesn't mean you have to accept it without a second (or a first) thought. This is a basic principle of christian faith. I'd think it would be one you'd appreciate.


On a side note: the submit button now says "Make it So, #1". That is awesome!!!
and you feel that i'm a sheep that follows the teachings of the catholic church without second guessing anything? i think the fact that i'm gay, a christian and don't think i'm going to hell says plenty on my powers of thinking outside the box and second guessing what my church has tried to forcefully impose on me. i thought about the possibily, and discarted it as impossible, and here's where we go back to the begining of this thread. just like you have no proof for your theory, i don't for mine either....so who's right here?



The Adventure Starts Here!
Well ... I just read a handful of decidedly lukewarm comments on the movie. So, all our hooha-ing might end up being for naught. It might end up just fading away quietly.

FWIW, I do intend to look into getting a copy of the book from the library, perhaps this week if I have time. My guess is I'll be put on a waiting list, but that's okay. So, I do intend to read the book soon. For free.

FWIW, I heard the writing in the book was itself mediocre. I'll be curious to see how stunning a writer Mr. Brown is.

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Standing in the Sunlight, Laughing
Originally Posted by 7thson
Tight Pants?
"Butter face".
(Big nose!)



Originally Posted by adidasss
correct me if i'm wrong, but i heard that according to the book, Jesus married Mary Magdalen and they went to live happily ever after in the south of France, making plenty of babies and what not....i just concluded that that meant He didn't in fact, according to the book, die on the cross and get ressurected....am i wrong to assume that?
Yep. It doesn't say at all that Jesus was never crucified. It suggests that Jesus married Mary and that he didn't treat her like a subservient posession, that she had an active role in his ministry. It says that in an attempt to rule people with as little possibility of challenge as they could manage, that the Church changed the history of what happened, so that it was all men in Jesus' little group and taught that women were dirty, evil temptresses and that Mary (as the representative of women in the church) was a whore, only tolerated because she was reformed. It suggests that in so doing, the Church maintained their position as religious leaders by invalidating the offspring of Christ - who might have claimed a right to leadership, based on lineage.

The book is in no way anti-Jesus. It flirts heavily with being anti-Catholic, however. It's arguably anti-organized religion. But ALL of that is secondary to it being a fun-to-read piece of fiction.


and you feel that i'm a sheep that follows the teachings of the catholic church without second guessing anything? i think the fact that i'm gay, a christian and don't think i'm going to hell says plenty on my powers of thinking outside the box and second guessing what my church has tried to forcefully impose on me. i thought about the possibily, and discarted it as impossible, and here's where we go back to the begining of this thread. just like you have no proof for your theory, i don't for mine either....so who's right here?
Possibly nobody.






Austruck - as prose, it's utter crap. The interesting thing to me, from a writer's perspective, is the structure of the story. It's a page-turner, despite having major failings as literature.



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Originally Posted by adidasss
damn, i was hoping you were gonna say me....
so it doesn't say they went to live in the south of france and died natural deaths?
Nope. Not that I recall.



Originally Posted by Zeiken
Wait...God wrote the bible? News to me...
God was the Author of Inspiration not the writer.

Originally Posted by SamsoniteDelilah
If he was married, it wasn't a sin.
I will have to disagree. Sex within Marriage is not a sin however once God has revealed that the Church is His Bride then becoming one flesh with a woman would be lying would it not? One cannot marry both the Church and a woman or that in itself would mock marriage. Since God is the one who instituted it, then I doubt He would tear it down.

Ephesians 5: 31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they shall be two in one flesh. 32 This is a great sacrament; but I speak in Christ and in the church. 33



Originally Posted by SamsoniteDelilah
Just because someone wearing robes said it, doesn't mean you have to accept it without a second (or a first) thought. This is a basic principle of christian faith. I'd think it would be one you'd appreciate.
Actually this is not a basic principle of the christian faith since the majority of Chistians do in fact accept the teachings of their Councils or their Pope and so called men in robes.

But not just at anytime. Has to remain withing the Constant Dogmatic teachings of course.



Actually, a girl at work was saying how in one of the sneak preview shows, well the audience was actually laughing at the acting it was so bad. Not sure how true this is. Anyone else hear this?



Standing in the Sunlight, Laughing
Originally Posted by Escape
I will have to disagree. Sex within Marriage is not a sin however once God has revealed that the Church is His Bride then becoming one flesh with a woman would be lying would it not? One cannot marry both the Church and a woman or that in itself would mock marriage. Since God is the one who instituted it, then I doubt He would tear it down.

Ephesians 5: 31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they shall be two in one flesh. 32 This is a great sacrament; but I speak in Christ and in the church. 33
You crazy Catholics!



Actually this is not a basic principle of the christian faith since the majority of Chistians do in fact accept the teachings of their Councils or their Pope and so called men in robes.

But not just at anytime. Has to remain withing the Constant Dogmatic teachings of course.
The teachings of men in robes are still accepted on faith, not with a true knowledge. There is no proof of things which are accepted through faith, or there would be no need for faith in the first place. That's what I was talking about.



I don't understand what the whole controversy is all about with this movie. I mean, it's based on a fictional book and Tom Hanks, Sir Ian McKellan and the rest are all just actors. Journalists are in on it too...the reviews were out today, and they were horrible.

On The Today Show, the cast of the film was being interviewed and they were even stating the controversy is ridiculous. Sir Ian McKellan spoke and brought up something interesting point about the Bible....."Who actually wrote the Bible? Good question I think because if you think about it, people are taught differently. Was it written by an apostle, maybe God or even some spiritual being? It all depends upon their religious beliefs. So really there is no real answer. I mean, if we don't know who did, how do we know that everything in the Bible actually did happen?

Now it's not that I do not believe in God, but it is a very, very interesting area to ponder into.



28 days...6 hours...42 minutes...12 seconds
God Created The Universe.

Men Wrote The Bible.

The DaVinci Code is not Anti Anything.

The Book is good, the movie will be sub-par.

Your belief is your belief.
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I found the book simultaneously entertaining and irritating. It was cheap entertainment, really, keeping you hooked by means of cliffhangers, rather like a daytime soap. I am put off seeing the book by the amount of hype surrounding it. From what reviews I have read, I doubt it is destined to become a classic, but I suppose it is unfair to judge it without seeing it (like some people who think it is blasphemous to even pick up the book, yet have only vague ideas of what supposedly 'blasphemous' things it contains...do your research if you're going to get on your high horse.)


Anyone else think of that episode of Father Ted where they try to picket the film but end up going to watch it?



Well, it's out now. Did anyone go to a matinee and see it? Not I.