The MoFos Top 100 of the 90s Countdown - Redux

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Originally Posted by mrblond
So far, the bottom 20 reveals are flooded with new entries, which is normal. At the same time, most of the eight films that keep top 100 status are considerably downranked.
I think that the new entries trend gonna decrease from this point onward. Curious if a new title gonna reach the upper half of the list.

100. What’s Eating Gilbert Grape (1993)
99. Sonatine (1993) [-56]
98. The Celebration (1998)
97. Gummo (1997)
96. Fallen Angels (1995) [-18]
95. Office Space (1999)
94. True Romance (1993) [-47]
93. Porco Rosso (1992)
92. Interview with the Vampire (1994)
91. Sleepless in Seattle (1993)
90. Three Colors: Red (1994) [-36]
89. The Crow (1994)
88. My Cousin Vinny (1992)
87. Total Recall (1990) [-37]
86. Gattaca (1997)
85. Dead Man (1995) [-50]
84. A Few Good Men (1992)
83. Dumb and Dumber (1994) [-24]
82. Strange Days (1995)
81. Before Sunrise (1995) [-11]


I have a feeling that 2-3 of the big drops are because the actors in them have become less relevant.


Schwarzenegger's fame has trended downward since the divorce. Hollywood has Fallen out of love with Johnny Depp in a big way. And although Christian Slater and Patricia Arquette have both made comebacks in TV, they're hardly A-list stars.



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Originally Posted by stillmellow
I have a feeling that 2-3 of the big drops are because the actors in them have become less relevant.

Schwarzenegger's fame has trended downward since the divorce. Hollywood has Fallen out of love with Johnny Depp in a big way. And although Christian Slater and Patricia Arquette have both made comebacks in TV, they're hardly A-list stars.
So by this logic when we get around to the MoFo Top 100 of the 2020s it is going to have seven films starring Zendaya, because she is currently "popular"?

As for Depp, you explain Dead Man dropping because "Hollywood" (whom I wasn't aware is voting, here at MoFo) has fallen out of love with him...but then don't acknowledge another Depp title has already made the countdown that was not on that first one, you know back when he was still beloved.



Terrific speculation. You should work for TMZ.
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Originally Posted by stillmellow
I have a feeling that 2-3 of the big drops are because the actors in them have become less relevant.


Schwarzenegger's fame has trended downward since the divorce. Hollywood has Fallen out of love with Johnny Depp in a big way. And although Christian Slater and Patricia Arquette have both made comebacks in TV, they're hardly A-list stars.

But there are also Johnny Depp and Christian Slater movies that have climbed into the top 100.


I seem to recall that for one list, probably the last 90s one, there was a kind of agreement among some members to vote for just one of the Three Colours films to make sure the vote wasn't split, and Red was the one picked. Which could account for the slip in points if the vote was more split between Red and Blue this time.


No accounting for the drop in Sonatine's standing, beyond the general fewer people voted for it this time around because it's a different line up of people voting, which is the answer to all these questions really.



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Originally Posted by Holden Pike
So by this logic when we get around to the MoFo Top 100 of the 2020s it is going to have seven films starring Zendaya, because she is currently "popular".

If she's in seven Dune movies, she might have a shot...



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Originally Posted by Thursday Next
No accounting for the drop in Sonatine's standing, beyond the general fewer people voted for it this time around because it's a different line up of people voting, which is the answer to all these questions really.
The big thing to remember about the initial MoFo '90s list is that it was only the fourth of these exercises we had tried, the first decade list, and that only fifty-four folks took part. That's only two more than voted on the MoFo Top 100 Musicals.



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Originally Posted by Captain Quint
It was only vague to the vague

and why do you keep repeating yourself on the Kar Wai and Kieślowski films? Campaigning time is over.
Sorry, what I meant to say was that Captain Quint is perfect and completely infallible, and that everything that he says and writes is crystal clear and without ambiguity, and if anybody thinks that there is uncertainty about what he has said, or draws a different inference than was his intention, then it is because they are complete idiots, and not because Captain Quint has been unclear.

Also, it wasn't my intention to discuss the best films from the 1990s in a thread about the best films from the 1990s.



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Originally Posted by Robert the List
Sorry, what I meant to say was that Captain Quint is perfect and completely infallible, and that everything that he says and writes is crystal clear and without ambiguity, and if anybody thinks that there is uncertainty about what he has said, or draws a different inference than was his intention, then it is because they are complete idiots, and not because Captain Quint has been unclear.

Also, it wasn't my intention to discuss the best films from the 1990s in a thread about the best films from the 1990s.
Now you got it, see it was a teaser, a "teaser", it's not supposed to be clear, you just need to do this and work it out.



Also, that wasn't discussing, that's just repeating. Christ O'Malley give me patience.


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Lost Highway
Director

David Lynch, 1997

Starring

Patricia Arquette, Bill Pullman, Balthazar Getty, Robert Blake



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Kathryn Bigelow, 1991

Starring

Keanu Reeves, Patrick Swayze, Lori Petty, Gary Busey




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Tie broken up by most ballots (6 to 5)

Lost Highway - The “Dick Laurent is dead” scene was based on an actual incident, according to the director a stranger once rang his doorbell and spoke that same message through the intercom, Lynch looked out the window but saw no one. Freaky.

Lynch has described the picture as a "psychogenic fugue"

Point Break - Originally titled Johnny Utah, this, from a retrospective at CinemaAxis

The project had been in limbo for a while after being a rather hot commodity within the industry. At one point Ridley Scott was set to direct the film with actors like Matthew Broderick, Johnny Depp, Val Kilmer, and Charlie Sheen all vying for the titular role.
Some movies on the countdown just kind of snuck up on me, that was the case with the Katheryn BIgelow pictures, at the end I was like, "Oh, when did those get in here?"

So, for those sharp Columbos who worked it out, congrats. She was not only the first woman to win a Best Director Oscar, she's also our first director to show up on the countdown a second time.


Kathryn Bigelow
Film director, painter (that's what she went to school for, graduated as, composer Philip Glass turned her onto filmmaking, according to that article I posted above)
Born: November 27, 1951, San Carlos, California, USA
90s Features to Make the 100: Stranger Things, Point Break

Highway was unranked in the previous 90s countdown, while Break placed 83rd
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Point Break has been one of my favorite movies since I was a kid. Beautiful scenery, beautiful people (not Gary Busey), great action sequences (that foot chase!). Just a lot of fun all around. I had it on my ballot at #9.



I haven’t seen Lost Highway, but - given my past experiences with David Lynch movies - I very much doubt that I would like it.

Seen: 18/22
My Balllot:
9. Point Break (#79)
12. True Romance (#94)
24. Interview With the Vampire (#92)
25. Untamed Heart (One Pointer)



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My #13
I was surprised when I first saw it back in around 1993-4 how much fun it is.
I think I had the misconception that it was a chick-flick designed to have muscly surfers with floppy hair for the teeny-boppers to swoon over.
I had no idea it was an action crime-caper with bank robberies and guns and stuff.

I think it might be the inclusion of Reeves and Swayze, as at the time they were becoming a firm favourite of the teen girls of the time, so I skipped it until I caught it on telly one night because there was nothing on and instantly loved it.
Been a firm fave since then.



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Seen and liked both Lost Highway and Point Break, but neither made my ballot. Both are 7/10 movies for me. Lost Highway has some fantastic, interesting moments, but overall only partly worked for me. Point Break is entertaining and fun, but not a personal favourite.

Seen: 22/22

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