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edarsenal 01-08-22 11:50 PM

The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
WELCOME! WELCOME! WELCOME!

All you cinephiles and movie lovers
to


The 27th General Hall of Fame!!


(Woo effin Hoo!)


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Always an Honour, always a Pleasure, and a d@mn right De-light to be your Host for what has become a staple of us MoFos here to view and review our Nominations in this format.
Which, by definition is an Open Hall of Fame for films spanning all genres, decades, and Countries.
Should you have any questions, queries, or comments do not hesitate and our Staff will do their very best to assist you.

Thank you, bless you, gesundheit, How's ya mama? Thanks for the tea.
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Rules of Participation:  


Past Main HOF Archives........ Past Specialty HOF Archives

The initial Deadline to Join will be Friday, January 14, 2022, where I will Reveal all nominations with an additional week of OPEN DOOR POLICY for anyone wishing to Join In having grown curious with the list of nominations presented the following Friday of January 21, 2022.


PARTICIPANTS
Allaby Nomination Sent
Citizen Rules Nomination Sent
CosmicRunaway Nomination Sent
cricket Nomination Sent
edarsenal Nomination Sent
jiraffejustin Nomination Sent
Miss Vicky Nomination Sent
pahaK Nomination Sent
PHOENIX74 Nomination Sent
Siddon Nomination Sent
SpelingError Nomination Sent
Takoma11 Nomination Sent
Thief Nomination Sent
TheUsualSuspect Nomination Sent
Torgo Nomination Sent
ueno_station54 Nomination Sent


DEADLINE DATE: APRIL 22, 2022



REVIEWS


Allaby Vote Sent In
The Secret of Roan Inish
Mad Love
Baby Face
One Cut of the Dead
Jaws
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Cure
Magical Girl
Midnight Cowboy
True Romance
Thunder Road
Demons
My Dog Skip
Dolores Claiborne
Apocalypse Now
Safety Last!

Citizen Rules Vote Sent In
My Dog Skip
Midnight Cowboy
Jaws
Safety Last!
Mad Love
Secret of Roan Inish
Thunder Road
One Cut of the Dead
Baby Face
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Dolores Claiborne
True Romance
Demons
Magical Girl
Cure
Apocolypse Now

CosmicRunaway Vote Sent In
Witness for the Prosecution (Disqualified Host Error)
One Cut of the Dead
Cure
Jaws
Demons
True Romance
Dolores Claiborne
Thunder Road
The Secret of Roan Inish
Apocalypse Now
Mad Love
My Dog Skip
Baby Face
Midnight Cowboy
Safety Last!
Magical Girl
Raiders of the Lost Ark

cricket Vote Sent In
Witness for the Prosecution (Disqualified Host Error)
Apocaylpse Now
Jaws
Safety Last!
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Magical Girl
One Cut of the Dead
Midnight Cowboy
True Romance
Mad Love
Dolores Claiborne
Thunder Road
Demons
The Secret of Roan Inish
My Dog Skip
Baby Face
Cure

edarsenal Vote Sent In
Jaws
Baby Face
The Secret of Roan Inish
Midnight Cowboy
Raiders of the Lost Ark
True Romance
Apocalypse Now
Demons
Safety Last!
Cure
Thunder Road
One Cut of the Dead
Magical Girl
My Dog Skip
Dolores Claiborne
Mad Love

jiraffejustin Vote Sent In
My Dog Skip
Thunder Road
Baby Face
Mad Love
Jaws
Midnight Cowboy
Safety Last!
Magical Girl
Dolores Clairborne
True Romance
Raiders of the Lost Ark
One Cut of the Dead
The Secret of Roan Inish
Cure
Apocalypse Now


Miss Vicky Vote Sent In
Safety Last!
My Dog Skip
Mad Love
Baby Face
The Secret of Roan Inish
Thunder Road
One Cut of the Dead
Apocalypse Now
Cure
Magical Girl
Demons
Dolores Claiborne
Jaws
Midnight Cowboy
True Romance
Raiders of the Lost Ark

pahaK Vote Sent In
Demons
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Jaws
Safety Last!
One Cut of the Dead
Mad Love
Apocalypse Now
True Romance
Thunder Road
My Dog Skip
Baby Face
Dolores Clairborne
Magical Girl
Cure
Midnight Cowboy
The Secret of Roan Inish



PHOENIX74 Vote Sent In
True Romance
Apacolypse Now
Dolores Clairborne
Jaws
One Cut of the Dead
Safety Last!
Cure
My Dog Skip
Thunder Road
Midnight Cowboy
Secret of Roan Inish
Magical Girl
Mad Love
Demons
Baby Face
Raiders of the Lost Ark

Siddon Vote Sent In
My Dog Skip
Apocolypse Now
Safety Last!
Midnight Cowboy
Thunder Road
Baby Face
Magical Girl
Cure
Secret of Roan Inish
One Cut of the Dead
Dolores Claiborne
Demons
Jaws
True Romance
Mad Love
Raiders of the Lost Ark

SpelingError Vote Sent In
Apocolypse Now
Baby Face
Cure
Dolores Claiborne
Jaws
Mad Love
Magical Girl
Midnight Cowboy
My Dog Skip
One Cut of the Dead
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Safety Last!
Secret of Roan Inish
Demons
Thunder Road
True Romance

Takoma11 Vote Sent In
Magical Girl
One Cut of the Dead
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Safety Last!
Baby Face
Apocoplypse Now
My Dog Skip
Demons
Secret of Roan Inish
Dolores Claiborne
Cure
True Romance
Midnight Cowboy
Mad Love
Jaws
Thunder Road

Thief Vote Sent In
One Cut of the Dead
Safety Last!
Cure
Baby Face
Midnight Cowboy
My Dog Skip
Thunder Road
Dolores Claiborne
Demons
Magical Girl
The Secret of Roan Inish
True Romance
Mad Love
Apocalypse Now
Jaws
Raiders of the Lost Ark

TheUsualSuspect Vote Sent In
One Cut of the Dead
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Jaws
True Romance
My Dog Skip
Apocalypse Now
Midnight Cowboy
Demons
Safety Last!
Cure
Baby Face
The Secret of Roan Inish

Torgo Vote Sent In
Dolores Claiborne
Baby Face
Mad Love
Safety Last!
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Cure
True Romance
My Dog Skip
Thunder Road
Demons
Midnight Cowboy
Apocalypse Now
Jaws
The Secret of Roan Inish
Magical Girl
One Cut of the Dead

ueno_station54 Vote Sent In
The Secret of Roan Inish
My Dog Skip
Mad Love
True Romance
One Cut of the Dead
Satety Last!
Apocalypse Now
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Baby Face
Cure
Thunder Road
Demons
Jaws
Dolores Claiborne
Midnight Cowboy
Magical Girl

edarsenal 01-08-22 11:52 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
NOMINATIONS



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Safety Last! (1923)
Directors: Fred C. Newmeyer, Sam Taylor (U.S) 1h14m
Nominated by: Allaby


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Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
Director: Steven Spielberg (U.S.) 1h 55m
Nominated by: Citizen Rules


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One Cut of the Dead aka Kamera o Tomeru na! (2017)
Director: Shin'ichirō Ueda (Japan) 1h 36m
Nominated by: CosmicRunaway


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Magical Girl aka Magična devojka (2014)
Director: Carlos Vermut (Spain) 2h 7m
Nominated by: cricket


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Baby Face (1933)
Director: Alfred E. Green (U.S) 1h 11m
Nominated by: edarsenal


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Apocalypse Now (1979)
*No Specific Edtion/Cut necessary - Viewer's Choice*
Director: Francis Ford Coppola (U.S) 2h 27m
Nominated by: jiraffejustin


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True Romance (1993)
Director: Tony Scott (U.S) 1h 59m
Nominated by: Miss Vicky


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Demons akaShura (1971)
Director: Toshio Matsumoto 2h 14m
Nominated by: pahaK


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Jaws (1975)
Director: Steven Spielberg (U.S) 2h 4m
Nominated by: PHOENIX74


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My Dog Skip (2000)
Director: Jay Russell (U.S.) 1h 35m
Nominated by: Siddon


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Midnight Cowboy (1969)
Director: John Schlesinger (U.S.) 1h 53m
Nominated by: SpelingError


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Thunder Road (2018)
Nominated by: Takoma11


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Dolores Claiborne (1995)
Director Taylor Hackford (U.S.) 2h 12m
Nominated by Thief


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Cure (1997)
Director: Kiyoshi Kurosawa (Japan) 1h 51m
Nominated by: TheUsualSuspect


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The Secret of Roan Inish (1994)
Director: John Sayles (Ireland) 1h 43m
Nominated by Torgo


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L'amour braque aka Mad Love (1985)
Director: Andrzej Zulawski (France) 1h 41m
Nominated by: ueno_station54

Miss Vicky 01-09-22 12:30 AM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
I guess I'll end my hiatus. Here's hoping I don't regret it.

Nomination sent.

John Dumbear 01-09-22 12:54 AM

First one of these for me. Not participating, but will hang out and see how this works. So I'll be ready for the 28th event.

Citizen Rules 01-09-22 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 2270438)
I guess I'll end my hiatus. Here's hoping I don't regret it.

Nomination sent.
You'll regret it when you see my nom;)

Citizen Rules 01-09-22 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by John Dumbear (Post 2270444)
First one of these for me. Not participating, but will hang out and see how this works. So I'll be ready for the 28th event.
Yeah, hang out that would be cool and hope you dig it and join the 28th.

Miss Vicky 01-09-22 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2270460)
You'll regret it when you see my nom;)
Well I suspect you’re not going to like mine.

ueno_station54 01-09-22 07:27 AM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
i'm in. gonna nominate some superhero bs since my original pick just doesn't exist on the internet it seems.

Allaby 01-09-22 08:46 AM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
I'm in!

pahaK 01-09-22 09:50 AM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
I'll make my decision once the doors open.

rauldc14 01-09-22 10:00 AM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
I am not 100% in and I will be waiting this time. If the noms look ok and sincerely look like enjoyable films I'll join. Too much nom bombing lately I have to admit.

Hopefully people can see where I'm coming from. If not you can watch a guy who's been in 24/26 generals not join anymore.

Pretty proud of what was created with this and hopefully I can keep participating.

Torgo 01-09-22 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by rauldc14 (Post 2270504)
I am not 100% in and I will be waiting this time. If the noms look ok and sincerely look like enjoyable films I'll join. Too much nom bombing lately I have to admit.

Hopefully people can see where I'm coming from. If not you can watch a guy who's been in 24/26 generals not join anymore.

Pretty proud of what was created with this and hopefully I can keep participating.
Have you considered creating a private Hall of Fame that only has people who choose films that you know you will like? That way, you won't ever be disappointed.

I should be able to join this one. I'll submit my movie later this week.

rauldc14 01-09-22 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Torgo (Post 2270506)
Have you considered creating a private Hall of Fame that only has people who choose films that you know you will like? That way, you won't ever be disappointed.

I should be able to join this one. I'll submit my movie later this week.
That's not what I meant and maybe I should reclarify. I'll summarize by saying is Themroc and Daisies Hall of Fame candidate worthy?

Torgo 01-09-22 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by rauldc14 (Post 2270507)
That's not what I meant and maybe I should reclarify. I'll summarize by saying is Themroc and Daisies Hall of Fame candidate worthy?
I sincerely believe Ueno thinks they are HoF-worthy and that she's not just trolling, or as you put it, nom-bombing. I'm new at these and shouldn't have any say on how they're run, but I'd prefer to see all kinds of movies in these from weird art-house fare to Hollywood classics. I just floated the private idea as an option for you to avoid seeing picks you know you probably won't like.

rauldc14 01-09-22 10:57 AM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
Couldn't tell that by her reviews. Hell one was an atrocious blind watch.

If people want me on the sidelines for these to watch movies like that then I guess it is what it is. No hard feelings.

Allaby 01-09-22 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by rauldc14 (Post 2270507)
That's not what I meant and maybe I should reclarify. I'll summarize by saying is Themroc and Daisies Hall of Fame candidate worthy?
Daisies is absolutely worthy of being a Hall of Fame candidate. It is a very well regarded film and is ranked 292nd on They Shoot Picture's 1000 greatest films of all time list. It's also included on the "1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die" list. It's rated a 4.0 on Letterboxd, which is pretty high. I will agree that Themroc was terrible and not a worthy nomination

rauldc14 01-09-22 11:00 AM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
And now she's nominating a "BS" Superhero movie. And yes those are her words too.

Wyldesyde19 01-09-22 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by rauldc14 (Post 2270507)
That's not what I meant and maybe I should reclarify. I'll summarize by saying is Themroc and Daisies Hall of Fame candidate worthy?
Yes and yes. Why should they be excluded simply because you didn’t enjoy them?

They aren’t exactly trashy films. Daisies is even recognized as amongst Czechoslovakia’s top films.

Your stance here screams of “select films I want or I won’t join.” That, to me, goes against the spirit of these.

Takoma11 01-09-22 01:22 PM

The main thing I've enjoyed about these tournaments is seeing movies I haven't seen before. Like, I know people want to win, but I've seen Vertigo and The Deer Hunter and No Country for Old Men and I know why they're great and why people think they're great.

I think that probably about half of my legitimately favorite movies would maybe be seen as trolling. But I, for example, genuinely think that Brain Damage is a great film and I watch it a lot and I think about it a lot and it evokes very strong emotions in me. The main thing holding me back from nominating it is that it would make me sad to watch 10 of my forum-peers totally trash it, LOL.

Anyway, I will be in as long as none of the nominated films cross my personal no-go boundaries.

SpelingError 01-09-22 01:27 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
I'll copy something I wrote in the 26th HoF as this is the same controversy which popped up last time:

We all know that Themroc was really love-it-or-hate-it among us (well, maybe not "love-it" lmao), but Daisies, by comparison, is generally considered to be a much better film. A number of critical essays have been written about it, Criterion included it in one of their Eclipse series on the Czech New Wave, and Sight & Sound listed it as one of the best films of all time in 2012. To my understanding, while ueno_station wanted to pick another weird film for this Hall of Fame, she went with something that has more of a classic status.

As an aside, here's the Criterion essay for this film, if you're curious (scroll down a bit on the page to get to the essay for Daisies).

SpelingError 01-09-22 01:29 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
Also, I'm in. I'll send my nomination later today.

SpelingError 01-09-22 01:30 PM

Also, I'm sure edarsenal will be a great host :up:

SpelingError 01-09-22 01:34 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
As an aside, I'm sure that crumbsroom would've liked Themroc.

Takoma11 01-09-22 01:36 PM

So I'm reading the plot summary for Themroc and, I'm sorry, but "Made on a low budget with no intelligible dialog," is EXACTLY the kind of movie I want in at least one of the nominations. Not all of them, mind you, but c'mon. Live a little!

In this moment, would I rather rewatch Citizen Kane for the nth time, or watch a 70s film where a worker becomes a caveman? You already know the answer to that question.

Wyldesyde19 01-09-22 01:46 PM

I pretty much enjoy watching those films that I haven’t seen before, especially those from other countries. I purposely seek out these types of films, and I’m constantly searching for older films from various countries for this purpose.

That’s why Daisies and In a Glass Cage, another nomination maligned for its selection (and one I enjoyed),were worthwhile to me

Okay 01-09-22 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Takoma11 (Post 2270578)
So I'm reading the plot summary for Themroc and, I'm sorry, but "Made on a low budget with no intelligible dialog," is EXACTLY the kind of movie I want in at least one of the nominations. Not all of them, mind you, but c'mon. Live a little!
Added to my watchlist.

Citizen Rules 01-09-22 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by rauldc14 (Post 2270507)
That's not what I meant and maybe I should reclarify. I'll summarize by saying is Themroc and Daisies Hall of Fame candidate worthy?
As others have said, yes those movies are worthy of an HoF. Both are highly rated at IMDB. I loved Daisies, so did my wife. The film I was going to nominate for this HoF is generally panned & low rated at IMDB...BUT the important part is, I believe it to be a great film. Maybe I'll nom in the 28th.

Originally Posted by rauldc14 (Post 2270512)
Couldn't tell that by her reviews. Hell one was an atrocious blind watch...
I agree with you on this. I think that's where the problem stems from. It's not Ueno herself who seems cool but it's that she blows off the majority of the films with a flippant, one liner insult. Which then to some sounds disingenuous.

I've hated on a LOT of noms myself, usually I hate about 1/3 of them but I do write a detailed enough review so people can see where I'm coming from in my opinion. I would suggest Ueno explain a bit more in her reviews what the problems with the movies are. That might help.

Citizen Rules 01-09-22 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Takoma11 (Post 2270566)
The main thing I've enjoyed about these tournaments is seeing movies I haven't seen before. Like, I know people want to win, but I've seen Vertigo and The Deer Hunter and No Country for Old Men and I know why they're great and why people think they're great...
I've seen a lot of films but I have not seen 2 out of 3 of those (The Deer Hunter and No Country for Old Men).

This time I went with a well known film myself. Sometimes I don't. Just depends on my mood.

Wyldesyde19 01-09-22 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2270612)

I agree with you on this. I think that's where the problem stems from. It's not Ueno herself who seems cool but it's that she blows off the majority of the films with a flippant, one liner insult. Which then to some sounds disingenuous.

I've hated on a LOT of noms myself, usually I hate about 1/3 of them but I do write a detailed enough review so people can see where I'm coming from in my opinion. I would suggest Ueno explain a bit more in her reviews what the problems with the movies are. That might help.

While I wouldn’t say her reviews are insightful, and definitely dismissive and lacking on good faith effort in giving the films a fair attempt, she does typically write a few paragraphs in regards to these films from what I’ve remembered.

Citizen Rules 01-09-22 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19 (Post 2270617)
While I wouldn’t say her reviews are insightful, and definitely dismissive and lacking on good faith effort in giving the films a fair attempt, she does typically write a few paragraphs in regards to these films from what I’ve remembered.
"one liner reviews" was a generalization describing the brief nature of the negative movie reviews by Ueno. It describes the feeling of those reviews as opposed to the actually word count. Taken as a whole I'm perceiving that some members are under the impression she's not serious about this HoF endeavor and some might question if she has finished the films or not...I'm not saying she's not serious. I'm not saying she didn't watch the films...I'm saying that type of review she does can send up red flags to some individuals. That's what I think is going on with the various complaints and Raul wasn't the only person to complain in the last HoF (and no I didn't complain in the 26th. I'm trying to help)

Citizen Rules 01-09-22 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by ueno_station54 (Post 2270489)
i'm in. gonna nominate some superhero bs since my original pick just doesn't exist on the internet it seems.
Originally Posted by rauldc14 (Post 2270514)
And now she's nominating a "BS" Superhero movie. And yes those are her words too.
I do understand where Raul is coming from, so let's not give him grief as he's got a point: When someone says rather flippantly that they can't find the movie they want, so they are going with a BS nom...that sounds problematic to me.


*Note: I did message Ueno earlier and offered to help find her first movie choice.

Miss Vicky 01-09-22 03:34 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
*wonders if she picked the wrong time to come back*

rauldc14 01-09-22 03:43 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
I hope it sets up to me joining. I'm just saying I'm not putting myself through a Themroc/In a Glass Cage scenario.

Probably came across as a temper tantrum. I obviously don't expect to like every film I just legitimately want people to nominate films they like and not nominate just to get people to watch a strange/absurb film for the hell of it.

ueno_station54 01-09-22 03:48 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
to clarify, the superhero bs im nominating is something i've wanted to nominate for awhile because i genuinely loved it last time i saw it. as for my reviews being bad im just a very shallow film watcher.

SpelingError 01-09-22 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by rauldc14 (Post 2270632)
I obviously don't expect to like every film I just legitimately want people to nominate films they like and not nominate just to get people to watch a strange/absurb film for the hell of it.
Sure, but judging from her reviews, ueno did enjoy both Themroc and Daisies, so I don't think the latter applies for her.

ueno_station54 01-09-22 03:55 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
also the superhero bs was rejected. it was a miniseries and those being allowed or not seems to vary from host to host. so the replacement replacement nom is something ive legitimately never heard anyone say a bad word about so hope this one works out.

rauldc14 01-09-22 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Takoma11 (Post 2270578)
So I'm reading the plot summary for Themroc and, I'm sorry, but "Made on a low budget with no intelligible dialog," is EXACTLY the kind of movie I want in at least one of the nominations. Not all of them, mind you, but c'mon. Live a little!

In this moment, would I rather rewatch Citizen Kane for the nth time, or watch a 70s film where a worker becomes a caveman? You already know the answer to that question.
Go watch it then. Have fun.

SpelingError 01-09-22 04:01 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
Anyways, just sent my nomination.

ueno_station54 01-09-22 04:01 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
also i admit Themroc was an off the grid pull. it was the first general HoF i was in and coming off of one genre HoF prior which are a bit more lax seemingly I thought that would be fine. im not gonna blind pick again, at least not entirely (will probably do a lot of things i saw a long time ago and want to revisit). you can go look at the list of my favourite films i posted here awhile ago Daisies is in the top 10 and it has been for a long time that was a very genuine nomination i assure you.

pahaK 01-09-22 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by rauldc14 (Post 2270632)
I hope it sets up to me joining. I'm just saying I'm not putting myself through a Themroc/In a Glass Cage scenario.

Probably came across as a temper tantrum. I obviously don't expect to like every film I just legitimately want people to nominate films they like and not nominate just to get people to watch a strange/absurb film for the hell of it.
In a Glass Cage was on my all-time top-100 ballot so what's your issue with it again?

Miss Vicky 01-09-22 04:04 PM

Can I just say thank you to @edarsenal for not allowing miniseries? I did not sign up to watch TV.

rauldc14 01-09-22 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by pahaK (Post 2270640)
In a Glass Cage was on my all-time top-100 ballot so what's your issue with it again?
We've already talked about this one before. It's in that thread.

SpelingError 01-09-22 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by pahaK (Post 2270640)
In a Glass Cage was on my all-time top-100 ballot so what's your issue with it again?
While I enjoyed your nomination, I understand why it got some backlash given that it was an extreme film which showed actual scenes of underage boys being disrobed and sexually touched on camera by an older man. It's a bit different than Themroc and Daisies, given that the backlash those films received were mostly due to them being weird more than containing potentially objectionable content.

pahaK 01-09-22 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by rauldc14 (Post 2270643)
We've already talked about this one before. It's in that thread.
I didn't ask why you don't like the film, but what's your issue with the nomination? It's certainly fine by the criteria you provided a few posts earlier (...I just legitimately want people to nominate films they like...). Feels awfully like a "temper tantrum" to me :rolleyes:

SpelingError 01-09-22 04:14 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
Anyways, this is a very drama-filled introduction to this Hall, but after all this is finished, let's hope for smooth sailing from here.

rauldc14 01-09-22 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by pahaK (Post 2270646)
I didn't ask why you don't like the film, but what's your issue with the nomination? It's certainly fine by the criteria you provided a few posts earlier (...I just legitimately want people to nominate films they like...). Feels awfully like a "temper tantrum" to me :rolleyes:
Did you honestly see that movie getting good feedback? It was an obvious last place the minute the synopsis was read.

pahaK 01-09-22 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by SpelingError (Post 2270644)
While I enjoyed your nomination, I understand why it got some backlash given that it was an extreme film which showed actual scenes of underage boys being disrobed and sexually touched on camera by an older man. It's a bit different than Themroc and Daisies, given that the backlash those films received were mostly due to them being weird more than containing potentially objectionable content.
Yet for some reason Christine F. featuring a 13- or 14-year-old girl giving a hand job to an adult man, having sex with her junkie boyfriend, and doing drugs didn't raise any eyebrows. Also Pixote featuring a rape of a young boy, full-frontal underaged nudity, and said boy kissing an adult woman raised only small concerns from one user (I'd remember).

Sorry about this slightly off-topic rant. This has no effect on me joining or not and fortunately, I don't know any other pedophile nazi murderer films I'd like.

crumbsroom 01-09-22 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by SpelingError (Post 2270577)
As an aside, I'm sure that crumbsroom would've liked Themroc.

That definitely sounds up my alley. And kudos to having such a thing nominated. Now hopefully it's going to be easy for me to find a link to stream it........

Siddon 01-09-22 04:30 PM

Well what I like about my nom's is I try and move away from genre, age, and prestige and give you guys an experience. You never know what a Siddon nomination is going to be.

pahaK 01-09-22 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by rauldc14 (Post 2270648)
Did you honestly see that movie getting good feedback? It was an obvious last place the minute the synopsis was read.
Most of the reviews seemed to be around 3/5 and prior to nominating, I knew that two other participants liked the film (there are older discussions about it on the forums). Besides, that's a completely different "issue" now - apparently, nominator liking the film isn't enough now?

ueno_station54 01-09-22 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by crumbsroom (Post 2270653)
That definitely sounds up my alley. And kudos to having such a thing nominated. Now hopefully it's going to be easy for me to find a link to stream it........
part of the reason i picked it is because it was extremely easy to find a link just by googling it lol.

ueno_station54 01-09-22 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Siddon (Post 2270655)
Well what I like about my nom's is I try and move away from genre, age, and prestige and give you guys an experience. You never know what a Siddon nomination is going to be.
the best and worst things i saw in 2021 were Siddon noms lol.

edarsenal 01-09-22 05:05 PM

::adjusts Host hat::
::clears throat::
https://i.imgur.com/lDrW2Ck.gif

All righty, then, allow me to address some truly important issues, if I may.

The first and most important, I feel, that yes, Speling is VERY correct. I AM a d@mn good host. I rock, I roll, and even shimmy and groove, so there's that.

Secondly, and equally important:
WELCOME BACK MISS VICKY!!!!
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AgonizingD...ow-max-1mb.gif

Next; We're at a very excellent rate on day one of nominations with eight folks in, two on the sidelines accompanying a new spectator -- WELCOME @Dumbear!! Sit back, enjoy, and I'm very happy to have you here!

Regarding @rauldc14 and his concerns he has the right, as we all do, to voice them, and I have love and respect for the man and I'd rather things were allowed their time to "air out" than to fester.
We love this format and the myriad of opportunities it presents for us movie lovers/watchers so it's best to speak out and to respect one another and our myriad of opinions/views on all sides.

@ueno_station54 is new and like all of us, will adjust while, hopefully, staying true to herself as a fellow movie watcher. Not everyone gels with everyone and for good and for bad, variety is a good thing. We can applaud. We can groan and b#tch. Both of which are ALSO a good thing.
I did reject her initial series suggestion, simply because this is a Movie HoF and I do firmly believe that a Specialty HoF of Mini-Series would be excellent and her "superhero bs lol" ;) would fit beautifully there. When Siddon's mini-series was accepted it was a very singular exception that, for me, paid off. But, again, as Host, I wanted to stay within the set format of Films and would happily participate in a Specialty HoF of mini-series. Speling's Twilight Zone is an excellent example of how well such an HoF would do.


That should do for now, till next we meet. . .
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SpelingError 01-09-22 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by pahaK (Post 2270651)
Yet for some reason Christine F. featuring a 13- or 14-year-old girl giving a hand job to an adult man, having sex with her junkie boyfriend, and doing drugs didn't raise any eyebrows. Also Pixote featuring a rape of a young boy, full-frontal underaged nudity, and said boy kissing an adult woman raised only small concerns from one user (I'd remember).

Sorry about this slightly off-topic rant. This has no effect on me joining or not and fortunately, I don't know any other pedophile nazi murderer films I'd like.
Since I haven't seen those films, nor was I a participant in the respective Halls for those films, I'd have to watch them to form an opinion on the content in them. Regardless, my post was more of a general statement that extreme films shouldn't be nominated in main Halls. They'd be more appropriate for an extreme film HoF if anyone were to put one together.

Allaby 01-09-22 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by SpelingError (Post 2270668)
Since I haven't seen those films, nor was I a participant in the respective Halls for those films, I'd have to watch them to form an opinion on the content in them. Regardless, my post was more of a general statement that extreme films shouldn't be nominated in main Halls. They'd be more appropriate for an extreme film HoF if anyone were to put one together.
I respectfully disagree. I think extreme films should be eligible for general halls, if the person nominating it genuinely believes it is worthy. There are some great films that have content or themes that might be considered extreme or offensive to some people, but are still worthy of being nominated for a general hall, in my opinion.

Takoma11 01-09-22 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2270614)
I've seen a lot of films but I have not seen 2 out of 3 of those (The Deer Hunter and No Country for Old Men).

This time I went with a well known film myself. Sometimes I don't. Just depends on my mood.
It's not so much about it being known or unknown. You haven't seen The Deer Hunter but I bet everyone on this forum knows of it, and that most people who haven't seen it yet vaguely have it on their to-see list.

The value I've gotten out of these HoF experiences is seeing films that weren't on my radar or that I would not have sought out on my own.

Originally Posted by rauldc14 (Post 2270637)
Go watch it then. Have fun.
I . . . might have fun with it? Which is the point of this kind of thing?

Originally Posted by rauldc14 (Post 2270648)
Did you honestly see that movie getting good feedback? It was an obvious last place the minute the synopsis was read.
I liked it a lot and rated it something like
. It was around the middle of my ballot if I recall correctly, maybe even toward the top?

It comes down to whether you mean what you say about people nominating things they love and think that some others may really like. Like I said in the thread at the time, I was as disturbed by the child abuse in Antwone Fisher as what happened in In a Glass Cage. Moreso, honestly, because it was a thing happening to a real person and not part of a larger allegory.

This is a potluck. Do you want people to bring food they genuinely find delicious, knowing it might make some people gag? Or do you want everyone to bring potato chips?

SpelingError 01-09-22 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Allaby (Post 2270670)
I respectfully disagree. I think extreme films should be eligible for general halls, if the person nominating it genuinely believes it is worthy. There are some great films that have content or themes that might be considered extreme or offensive to some people, but are still worthy of being nominated for a general hall, in my opinion.
I remember several of us discussing a similar thing in the past. While I agreed with the general consensus we settled on that it's impossible to account for everything which may possibly trigger or offend someone, I do think we should make an effort to avoid nominating some films with obvious or common triggers, like unstimulated violence toward animals or underage nudity.

Allaby 01-09-22 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by SpelingError (Post 2270674)
I remember several of us discussing a similar thing in the past. While I agreed with the general consensus we settled on that it's impossible to account for everything which may possibly trigger or offend someone, I do think we should make an effort to avoid nominating some films with obvious or common triggers, like unstimulated violence toward animals or underage nudity.
Those two types of content are wildly different though. Unsimulated violence towards animals is genuinely offensive, wrong, and harmful. Underage nudity, in my opinion, is not harmful or immoral and should not be offensive, although some people are, for whatever reason, offended by it. Not trying to offend anyone here, but that is my honest opinion on it.

SpelingError 01-09-22 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Allaby (Post 2270675)
Those two types of content are wildly different though. Unsimulated violence towards animals is genuinely offensive, wrong, and harmful. Underage nudity, in my opinion, is not harmful or immoral and should not be offensive, although some people are, for whatever reason, offended by it. Not trying to offend anyone here, but that is my honest opinion on it.
I mentioned underage nudity because that caused controversy in some past Halls. I don't want to directly name anyone, but I saw a couple posters state in the past that they might not join anymore Halls due to the underage nudity in some films which were nominated for them. I haven't seen this type of controversy occur for different types of potentially disturbing or offensive content, so that's why I listed unsimulated violence and underage nudity as common triggers up above. They have caused issues in the past.

Siddon 01-09-22 05:55 PM

LOL you guys are really tempting me to ruin your days with a nomination.

edarsenal 01-09-22 05:58 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
It is all a bit of a tightrope walk but it is one we all walk together and the success of that does come down to having these conversations and expressing our views.

At the end of it all, General, in my experience has been both amazing and grueling and has allowed me to venture into places I wouldn't on my own. Some I'd rather have not, ever, but it doesn't lower their cinematic value and it does allow me the opportunity to get thrown in the deep end of film experiences and thereby grow, cinema-wise. Not to mention the payoff for the discovery of films I have come to love and respect or just simply needed to see and finally have, easily surpassed the ones I could have done without.

edarsenal 01-09-22 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Siddon (Post 2270679)
LOL you guys are really tempting me to ruin your days with a nomination.
https://media1.giphy.com/media/uVDhk...XCgx/giphy.gif

Wyldesyde19 01-09-22 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Takoma11 (Post 2270672)
It comes down to whether you mean what you say about people nominating things they love and think that some others may really like. Like I said in the thread at the time, I was as disturbed by the child abuse in Antwone Fisher as what happened in In a Glass Cage. Moreso, honestly, because it was a thing happening to a real person and not part of a larger allegory.
This kind of stuff never bothers me because it’s not actually happening, although I do note it as a disturbing scene. Wether it’s a allegory or not, though, I’m not going to rationalize one as more disturbing than the other.

EDIT: actually, scratch that. I seem to remember being more disturbed by the depiction in Glass Cage.

cricket 01-09-22 06:16 PM

If I do join, maybe I'll hold off on the incest film. This time.

Miss Vicky 01-09-22 06:22 PM

I think people need to realize that participating in a Hall of Fame means you risk having to watch movies that make you uncomfortable and this is especially true when you join a general HOF. People trying to restrict what is and is not allowed is what led to my first hiatus from the HOF.

That said, any nomination that contains actual animal cruelty or that contains exploitative child nudity will get an automatic last place on my ballot.

Miss Vicky 01-09-22 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by edarsenal (Post 2270664)
Secondly, and equally important:
WELCOME BACK MISS VICKY!!!!
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AgonizingD...ow-max-1mb.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGo6x_uzG8Y

edarsenal 01-09-22 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 2270689)
ROFL I was thinking the exact same thing when I saw your post early this morning and forgot to post it.
TESTIFY, girlfriend!!

edarsenal 01-09-22 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 2270685)
If I do join, maybe I'll hold off on the incest film. This time.
Then what's the point of you joining? Seriously.

;)

SpelingError 01-09-22 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 2270686)
I think people need to realize that participating in a Hall of Fame means you risk having to watch movies that make you uncomfortable and this is especially true when you join a general HOF. People trying to restrict what is and is not allowed is what led to my first hiatus from the HOF.

That said, any nomination that contains actual animal cruelty or that contains exploitative child nudity will get an automatic last place on my ballot.
Sorry if it seems like I'm derailing this thread, so I'm cool with dropping the discussion. Since most of us seem to be against restricting topics, I won't stand alone.

Regardless, though we haven't interacted a lot on this forum yet, glad to see you re-joining these Halls!

Miss Vicky 01-09-22 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by SpelingError (Post 2270697)
Regardless, though we haven't interacted a lot on this forum yet, glad to see you re-joining these Halls!
Well, you might not be so glad I'm back once I start actually reviewing the movies. Raul once called it the "Miss Vicky Hate Parade." :D

SpelingError 01-09-22 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 2270699)
Well, you might not be so glad I'm back once I start actually reviewing the movies. Raul once called it the "Miss Vicky Hate Parade." :D
I better change my nomination to Quills then.

Takoma11 01-09-22 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19 (Post 2270683)
This kind of stuff never bothers me because it’s not actually happening, although I do note it as a disturbing scene. Wether it’s a allegory or not, though, I’m not going to rationalize one as more disturbing than the other.

EDIT: actually, scratch that. I seem to remember being more disturbed by the depiction in Glass Cage.
I think that your average movie watcher (by average I just mean most, not, like "average = pedestrian" or something) would be more disturbed by In a Glass Cage, as it is a more graphic portrayal.

My point was partly that for some people (me included) something being more graphic doesn't automatically equate to it being more disturbing.

But as a very sensitive soul myself, I have a lot of sympathy for people who don't want to watch things that cross their personal sense of "too much." I really, REALLY get it.

jiraffejustin 01-09-22 07:25 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
I nominated a pretty well-known, respected a film. But I love when something off the wall gets nominated. I wish more foreign films and more horror films got nominated. I think, say, Texas Chain Saw Massacre is better than most of the films that have won general hofs, but rarely does horror get nominated. I hate the idea of relegating it to only being nominated in its own category, because last I checked, it's also a film, so would fit in a film hall of fame.

rauldc14 01-09-22 07:25 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
Sorry for the ruffled feathers. Hopefully we can move forward and have a fun time.

jiraffejustin 01-09-22 07:26 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
By the way, as somebody who has been watching the thread and not really responding. I don't think this has gotten all that dramatic. It's good to get your feelings out there.

jiraffejustin 01-09-22 07:28 PM

Also if anybody wants to PM me their nominations so I can start downloading buying them, I'd be cool with that. And I won't snitch on you for doing it. :D

Miss Vicky 01-09-22 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by SpelingError (Post 2270700)
I better change my nomination to Quills then.
I've nominated it twice already. :D

Just, you know, maybe don't pick something like Bringing Up Baby or The Music Man.

Citizen Rules 01-09-22 07:44 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
Changing my nom to The Music Man, Ed did you get that;)


















nah I'll stick with my nom, it's a well respected 4 hour long musical:cool:

Takoma11 01-09-22 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 2270715)
I've nominated it twice already. :D

Just, you know, maybe don't pick something like Bringing Up Baby or The Music Man.
*Looks at nomination, Bringing Up the Music Man*
*begins to sweat*

Siddon 01-09-22 07:44 PM

I wish people would talk about and post short lists for feedback.

Part of me really wants to ruin your lives by introducing you guys to Allan King and his documentaries.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqff0fONb3w

Citizen Rules 01-09-22 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Siddon (Post 2270721)
I wish people would talk about and post short lists for feedback.

Part of me really wants to ruin your lives by introducing you guys to Allan King and his documentaries.
I prefer this Allan King
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfXBhfM8ga0

Miss Vicky 01-09-22 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2270718)
Changing my nom to The Music Man, Ed did you get that;)
Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 2042091)
If I believed in hell, I imagine it would be something like having to sit through this movie again.
:devil:

SpelingError 01-09-22 07:58 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
I'll change my nomination to Themroc Returns.

Citizen Rules 01-09-22 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by SpelingError (Post 2270726)
I'll change my nomination to Themroc Returns.
I go to IMDB...search for Themroc Returns, come back disappointed:(

Torgo 01-09-22 08:27 PM

(enters thread while humming "Gary, Indiana")

You need to look for Themroc 2: The Brick Stops Here.

SpelingError 01-09-22 08:27 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
Themroc, or the 120 Days of Cavemen

Takoma11 01-09-22 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by SpelingError (Post 2270735)
Themroc, or the 120 Days of Cavemen
I thought we agreed no miniseries!

SpelingError 01-09-22 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Takoma11 (Post 2270736)
I thought we agreed no miniseries!
Themroc is so great that he's an exception to the rules of this thread.

edarsenal 01-09-22 09:30 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
There is no god, only Themroc

jiraffejustin 01-10-22 02:22 AM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
I really need to see Themroc

Wyldesyde19 01-10-22 02:50 AM

In Themroc we trust.

ueno_station54 01-10-22 07:37 AM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
damn, you can still hear the echoes of my boy's primal screams through each new hall. so beautiful <3

Torgo 01-10-22 08:44 AM

https://i.imgur.com/ayjWX2L.jpg

Thief 01-10-22 09:35 AM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
I'll consider it.

Siddon 01-10-22 02:29 PM

I've made my selection....today I woke up and choose violence

https://cdn.twibooru.org/img/2020/7/9/10892/full.gif

rauldc14 01-10-22 02:41 PM

Re: The 27th General Hall of Fame
 
Battling with myself on a potential pick.

Siddon 01-10-22 03:01 PM

Betcha y'all having a nice day...be a real shame if something were to happen to that nice day you got going for ya

https://i.gifer.com/2Ej7.gif

crumbsroom 01-10-22 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Siddon (Post 2270721)
Part of me really wants to ruin your lives by introducing you guys to Allan King and his documentaries.

What this HoF clearly needs is some Dying at Grace.

Siddon 01-10-22 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by crumbsroom (Post 2270999)
What this HoF clearly needs is some Dying at Grace.

Yeah I thought about that but I decided to go in a much darker direction. I actually have a gif of Ed opening up his pm...


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crumbsroom 01-10-22 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Siddon (Post 2271011)
I decided to go in a much darker direction.

Good Lord.


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