[quote=Sedai]Quint![/quote]

[quote=Austruck][quote=John McClane][quote=Yoda]That's understandable, but unfortunately the speed at which we invest more heavily in nuclear power is the entirety of the issue.[/quote]Agreed. Between McCain's nuclear talk and Obama's ignoring it, I would rather have Obama. I heard McCain said he wanted to build 40-45 plants. Sorry, but I can't get behind that kind of number with our current nuclear program.[/quote]

What exactly do you know about our "nuclear program"? Just curious, because I hear about it from a firsthand source every day over dinner. :D[/quote]

[quote=Austruck]Side note related to (gasp) movies: Watching the original "Jaws." I just love this movie -- for its characterizations, which is probably why later sequels sucked so bad. Not the same great interplay of characters as on the microcosm of that boat.[/quote]

[quote=Austruck]Anyway, I sense a thread coming on....[/quote]

[quote=Austruck]John, you want to talk nuclear? Heck, I'm all for it. My husband works in a local nuke plant, and he's worked at plenty of them around the country.

The trouble with oil and nuclear isn't that they're not good ideas. It's that we haven't built a new refinery in several DECADES. It's that companies like Westinghouse have big customers for nuke plants in places like China, but not so much around here.

BTW, your assertion that it's not safe for widespread use is malarkey. It's the most highly regulated industry out there, and the safety stats bear out the logic of having those safety regulations. 

You wanna talk nuclear? Fine, but know your facts. It's definitely safe ... and probably the cleanest realistic form of widespread energy production we have in the near future.

And as for drilling domestically being environmentally unsound -- not sure where you get that, except from the environmental wackos. Because the local wildlife around the Alaskan pipeline LOVE that pipeline and are actually reproducing more than they used to. Healthier, more prolific wildlife. Go figure.[/quote]

[quote=Sedai]Cya soon, girl![/quote]

[quote=LTIZZY]Hey there guys hope everyone has a great night ! Take care ![/quote]

[quote=John McClane][quote=Yoda]That's understandable, but unfortunately the speed at which we invest more heavily in nuclear power is the entirety of the issue.[/quote]Agreed. Between McCain's nuclear talk and Obama's ignoring it, I would rather have Obama. I heard McCain said he wanted to build 40-45 plants. Sorry, but I can't get behind that kind of number with our current nuclear program.[/quote]

[quote=Yoda][quote=John McClane]Yes, but do you know why he opposes it? I have a fairly good idea because it's the same reason why I wouldn't want a bunch of nuclear facilities being setup across America: we lack nuclear power experience.[/quote]
That's understandable, but unfortunately the speed at which we invest more heavily in nuclear power is the entirety of the issue. I'll give Obama some credit for being friendlier to nuclear power than most in the Democratic party, but there's a disconnect between his talk about our energy problems, and his incredible reluctance to push what is far and away our most promising solution to them.

Take a look at his site; you won't find the word "nuclear" on his Energy page, or his page dedicated to "New Energy." You have to go trolling through a PDF just to find a mention of it, and even that is just a couple of paragraphs. We're not talking about some vague reticence about safety, or a plan to increase standards before committing to increased use; the guy's putting it on the backburner.[/quote]

[quote=Yoda][quote=John McClane]That is the biggest pile of BS I have ever heard. No matter where you drill oil is going to be environmentally unfriendly. Not only that, but we still have to move it even if we drill domestically.[/quote]
Uh, why is it BS? Tankers are far more likely to spill than possible alternatives like pipelines. And while we still have to transport it, drilling domestically means the transportation is over a much shorter distance.

[quote=John McClane]As for the Venezuela part, I didn't know about the government. So throw that idea out the window. ;)[/quote]
Nah, c'mon. You'd never put forth such a forceful opinion without all the facts. ;)[/quote]

[quote=Powdered Water]I like the idea for windmill powered cars... is there going to be a facility near me where I can get one of those bad boys installed?[/quote]