[quote=Sedai]Cya soon, girl![/quote]

[quote=LTIZZY]Hey there guys hope everyone has a great night ! Take care ![/quote]

[quote=John McClane][quote=Yoda]That's understandable, but unfortunately the speed at which we invest more heavily in nuclear power is the entirety of the issue.[/quote]Agreed. Between McCain's nuclear talk and Obama's ignoring it, I would rather have Obama. I heard McCain said he wanted to build 40-45 plants. Sorry, but I can't get behind that kind of number with our current nuclear program.[/quote]

[quote=Yoda][quote=John McClane]Yes, but do you know why he opposes it? I have a fairly good idea because it's the same reason why I wouldn't want a bunch of nuclear facilities being setup across America: we lack nuclear power experience.[/quote]
That's understandable, but unfortunately the speed at which we invest more heavily in nuclear power is the entirety of the issue. I'll give Obama some credit for being friendlier to nuclear power than most in the Democratic party, but there's a disconnect between his talk about our energy problems, and his incredible reluctance to push what is far and away our most promising solution to them.

Take a look at his site; you won't find the word "nuclear" on his Energy page, or his page dedicated to "New Energy." You have to go trolling through a PDF just to find a mention of it, and even that is just a couple of paragraphs. We're not talking about some vague reticence about safety, or a plan to increase standards before committing to increased use; the guy's putting it on the backburner.[/quote]

[quote=Yoda][quote=John McClane]That is the biggest pile of BS I have ever heard. No matter where you drill oil is going to be environmentally unfriendly. Not only that, but we still have to move it even if we drill domestically.[/quote]
Uh, why is it BS? Tankers are far more likely to spill than possible alternatives like pipelines. And while we still have to transport it, drilling domestically means the transportation is over a much shorter distance.

[quote=John McClane]As for the Venezuela part, I didn't know about the government. So throw that idea out the window. ;)[/quote]
Nah, c'mon. You'd never put forth such a forceful opinion without all the facts. ;)[/quote]

[quote=Powdered Water]I like the idea for windmill powered cars... is there going to be a facility near me where I can get one of those bad boys installed?[/quote]

[quote=John McClane][quote=Yoda]By the by, one of our current Presidentical candidates supports nuclear power, and the other opposes it. No points for guessing which is which, but I'll give you a hint: you like the one who opposes it.[/quote]Yes, but do you know why he opposes it? I have a fairly good idea because it's the same reason why I wouldn't want a bunch of nuclear facilities being setup across America: we lack nuclear power experience.

Sure, we have quite a few plants across the USA, but we're not even close to meeting the same quality of, say, the Japanese. I think we need a few more years before nuclear energy becomes safe enough for widespread use. However, I will most definitely be the first person to push for nuclear energy when I feel it's safe enough.

Mind you, I think the current plants are extremely safe. I would just much rather be very careful, than very dead. ;)[/quote]

[quote=Powdered Water]Nuclear... pronounced nu-ka-ler. 

Now you're all done with the book learnin'![/quote]

[quote=Yoda][quote=John McClane]Certainly, yet so many people are talking about Anwar as a method to lower costs which is simply not true.[/quote]
Er, yes it is. There are some issues about when the oil might hit the market, or how long it might alleviate costs, but the former is largely a matter of regulation (which can be changed), and the latter is a matter of degree. It's simple supply-and-demand. Also, I don't know of many people who see ANWR as a standalone solution. Most (myself included) see it as one part of a series of new policies.

[quote=John McClane]And no, I am putting an argument against drilling. Setup the equipment, but don't drill. We've got plenty of oil. People are turning this debate into some type of huge crisis, yet the actual crisis is not having enough research into alternative energies.[/quote]
Really? Do you have the numbers on that research on you? How much is "enough"? What if various alternatives do not pan out in a commercially viable way?

[quote=John McClane]I'm all for nuclear energy, the French and Japanese have been using it for years and look how efficient they are in terms of energy. America is one of the worst countries when it comes to energy progress. Sure, we have the most advance refineries in the world, but we have such an overwhelming dependence on oil. I see so many people wanting to extend that dependence, instead of remedying it.[/quote]
I'm not sure where you "see" that. Not in The Shoutbox. I love nuclear energy, and think it's ridiculous that we haven't used it more. By the by, one of our current Presidential candidates supports nuclear power, and the other opposes it. No points for guessing which is which, but I'll give you a hint: you like the one who opposes it.[/quote]

[quote=John McClane]As for the Venezuela part, I didn't know about the government. So throw that idea out the window. ;)[/quote]

[quote=John McClane][quote=Yoda]Not to mention that importing oil is far less environmentally sound than drilling domestically, or offshore.[/quote]That is the biggest pile of BS I have ever heard. No matter where you drill oil is going to be environmentally unfriendly. Not only that, but we still have to move it even if we drill domestically.[/quote]