The MoFos Top 100 of the 90s Countdown - Redux

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Stats: Pit Stop #5





Now that we've hit the fifth pit stop (50), the halfway mark, we can all blow a kiss to the old man in the overalls snapping his fingers to some old song while we check out these stats:

Decade Breakdown
  • 1990 = 4
  • 1991 = 6
  • 1992 = 5
  • 1993 = 10
  • 1994 = 4
  • 1995 = 6
  • 1996 = 1
  • 1997 = 8
  • 1998 = 2
  • 1999 = 4

Strong showing from 1991 and 1997 with three (3) and two (2) entries respectively. However, 1993 is still at the top now with 10 entries.

Repeating Directors
  • Krzystof Kieslowski = 3
  • Robert Altman = 2
  • Hayao Miyazaki = 2
  • Kathryn Bigelow = 2

Robert Altman was the Big Kahuna this time with two entries in the same batch, tying with Miyazaki and Bigelow. Kieslowski remains at the top with three (3), though.

We also added two (2) foreign films for a total of thirteen (13), plus one (1) more animated for a total of five (5).

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As for the state of my ballot at the halfway point and the likelihood of how many more will show, I only had five show in the bottom half of the collective, and have eleven more that absolutely must be in the top half. I'd say four more are on the bubble, two of which were on the first '90s list - though if any of them are showing they'd have to come in the next four or five pairs. Then I have five titles left that just plain ain't coming. The only chance they had to sneak onto the list would have been way up in the nineties or high eighties.

Sixteen of mine, for sure, plus maybe one or two more.

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5. The Thin Red Line (#53)
8. A Perfect World (#61)
9. Short Cuts (#55)
12. Barton Fink (#57)
23. Dead Man (#85)
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I believe I have 12 more coming

That means 8 won’t make it. That’s actually quite a few for this normie.
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Some more halfway mark stats...

At this point, our highest ranked entries on Rotten Tomatoes are:
  • Toy Story 2 - 100%
  • Before Sunrise - 100%
  • Three Colors: Red - 97%
  • Raise the Red Lantern - 97%
  • The Player - 97%
  • Three Colors: Blue - 97%
  • Good Will Hunting - 97%


Gummo remains the only "rotten" entry so far with a 39% approval on RT. However, other films with low-ish RT scores are:
  • Lost Highway - 69%
  • Strange Days - 69%
  • Dumb and Dumber - 67%
  • Home Alone - 66%
  • Interview with the Vampire - 63%


Remember again, RT Score is just a measure of overall positive/negative reaction to the film.





As far as IMDb goes, the highest ranked entries have been:
  • Princess Mononoke - 8.3
  • Good Will Hunting - 8.3
  • Close-Up - 8.2
  • Raise the Red Lantern - 8.1
  • Before Sunrise - 8.1


On the other hand, the lowest ranked entries on IMDb are:
  • Clueless - 6.9
  • Sleepless in Seattle - 6.8
  • The Blair Witch Project - 6.5
  • Gummo - 6.6





More list facts:
  • There have been thirteen (13) ties so far.
  • The point gaps between films continue to be small, as usual, with the biggest one so far being four (4) points between The Fifth Element and Short Cuts.



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Other Film Forum List Comparison

Now, at the half road of the countdown, I think, it would be interesting to share some info.

Curiously enough, the other active English language movie forum coincidentally underwent exactly the same poll during the same time as MoFo. They also re-ranked the 90's. Submissions of ballots happened from mid January until Apr 12th. The list was published in the mid April. They've reached 90 voters.

So, to compare how the revealed films #51-100 do on the other rank list.
23 of the movies revealed here so far, made their top 100, plus two more in the near misses.
Some of these are ranked considerably higher on their list, three making top 10!!!
(light grey not making the list at all)

100. What’s Eating Gilbert Grape (1993)
99. Sonatine (1993) I▷ #64
98. The Celebration (1998) I▷ #49
97. Gummo (1997) I▷ #51
96. Fallen Angels (1995) I▷ #26
95. Office Space (1999) I▷ #139
94. True Romance (1993)
93. Porco Rosso (1992) I▷ #57
92. Interview with the Vampire (1994)
91. Sleepless in Seattle (1993)

90. Three Colors: Red (1994) I▷ #48
89. The Crow (1994)
88. My Cousin Vinny (1992)

87. Total Recall (1990) I▷ #63
86. Gattaca (1997)
85. Dead Man (1995) I▷ #62
84. A Few Good Men (1992)
83. Dumb and Dumber (1994)
82. Strange Days (1995)

81. Before Sunrise (1995) I▷ #35
80. Lost Highway (1997) I▷ #5
79. Point Break (1991) I▷ #84
78. The Blair Witch Project (1999) I▷ #47
77. Beauty and the Beast (1991)
76. A Moment of Innocence (1996) I▷ #75
75. The Remains of the Day (1993)
74. Election (1999
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73. Close-Up (1990) I▷ #18
72. The Fugitive (1993)
71. The Double Life of Véronique (1991) I▷ #44
70. Home Alone (1990)
69. Good Will Hunting (1997)
68. Apollo 13 (1995)

67. Three Colors: Blue (1993) I▷ #69
66. Glengarry Glen Ross (1992)
65. Princess Mononoke (1997) I▷ #8
64. Edward Scissorhands (1990)
63. Perfect Blue (1997) I▷ #16
62. Carlito's Way (1993) I▷ #53
61. A Perfect World (1993)
60. Toy Story 2 (1999)
59. JFK (1991)
58. Clueless (1995)

57. Barton Fink (1991) I▷ #22
56. The Fifth Element (1997)
55. Short Cuts (1993) I▷ #142
54. Cure (1997) I▷ #9
53. The Thin Red Line (1998) I▷ #31
52. The Player (1992)
51. Raise the Red Lantern (1991) I▷ #77
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If I get the chance to watch The Red Lantern film I'll do it. A wicked competition between four wives should be fun to watch.
It is and holds up quite well. In fact it's brilliant and there was a time that I had it listed as the single best film of the 1990s because there's so much to it However there are three films that while maybe not as perfect as Raise the Red Lantern, that I love more and are near perfect.

So yep, Raise the Red Lantern is my number four pick, and while I agree it's amazing, I completely disagree that it's the feminist masterpiece that it's widely touted to be in academic and critics circles. In fact, I think it's one of the most subversive anti-femnism films ever made, but I don’t have time to go into that in detail now.
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Also regarding Raise the Red Lantern... did I see that right that it only made six lists? This must mean, if I'm understanding this correctly and just looking briefly at the math, that it must have shown very highly in each of the lists where it voted on - top five high.

I'm pleasantly shocked it appeared as I thought once we got to the half point on this list it wasn't going to show. Glad it made the list.



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... the other active English language movie forum ...
Are we allowed to know what that is?
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The Player was one of my final cuts. I liked it a lot, but as with many Altman films I've seen, I feel like I'll have to rewatch plenty of them to fully appreciate them.

Raise the Red Lantern was #3 on my ballot.

Zhang Yimou's Raise the Red Lantern is set in the 1920's in the Republic of China during the Warlord Era. Set several years before the Chinese Civil War, it shows that, in spite of how China seemingly moved beyond its troubling past, it was still held back by patriarchalism, as is seen through a wealthy lord and several women (concubines and servants) who live in his household. Through the complex character dynamics and the setting, Yimou explores the power imbalances amongst gender and class that were engraved into this lifestyle back then.

There's a lot to say about the various characters in the film. Yuru, the first wife, is the oldest of the bunch. She seems cold and distant when Songlian visits her in the opening, she mainly stays out of the conflict between the other mistresses, and (if I'm remembering correctly) the Master doesn't spend any nights with her throughout the film. It's apparent she has accepted she's growing old, is far past her prime, and that the Master prefers the other mistresses over her. Compared to the other three mistresses, she doesn't do or say that much in the film, but I felt like her limited screen time was earned, so I didn't have an issue with it. Zhuoyun, the second concubine, is the nicest of the bunch. She's the only one who acts friendly around Songlian and, as a result, they quickly bond. After she betrays Songlian though (however, I use the word betray very loosely as the detail which sets off the conflict between them could've meant something else), they fall out of touch with each other in one of the most shocking and upsetting scenes in the film. Her character bridges the gap between the somewhat light first half and the comparably darker second half. Meishan, the third concubine, is spoiled and unable to cope with how she's no longer the Master's favorite mistress. It initially seems like she's out to sabotage Songlian's relationship with the Master, but as the film goes on, her ruthlessness is trumped by Songlian, the fourth mistress. Though you may sympathize with Songlian at first, you eventually hate her as the effects her conspiring behavior has on the other people in the household keeps increasing in severity. Other notable characters include Yan'er, Songlian's servant, who's forced to put up with her harsh treatment throughout the film.

Master Chen, however, is the most significant character in the film as he provides the backbone for the film's patriarchal themes. As the one who runs the household, he leaves a bit of power open for his mistresses to vie for it. The mistresses, in turn, compete for the Master's full attention, because having obtained it will result in power, status, and privilege. As we soon learn though, whatever successes the mistresses find throughout the film are ultimately insignificant and short-lived as, whenever things begin to look up for them, the film is quick to remind you of the superiority the Master (and even the other occupants of the household, to a degree) has over them. For instance, whenever the Master spend a night with a mistress, she gets a foot massage, but at one point in the film, the Master says "A woman’s feet are very important. When they feel comfortable, she’s healthier and better able to serve her man", showing that he's still above them in rank. Other examples include how the Master confiscates Songlian's flute and burns it without letting her know, how Yuru, the Master's first wife, is largely ignored by him since she's aging, and how the household has several rules the mistresses must follow, for which breaking them will result in punishment. My favorite extension of the patriarchal themes though is how you never get a clear view of the Master's face (save for at least one shot in the film, where you get a good look at about half his face). This is a great distancing approach which illustrates that, since the competition amongst the mistresses never slows down, the Master is always just out of their reach.

There's also a lot that can be said about the cinematography and the setting. When I was first introduced to the Master's household, I found the houses which the four concubines lived in to be well-designed and pretty to look at. That they could walk on the rooftops was the cherry on top. The more I watched the film though, it soon dawned on me that none of the mistresses ever walked outside of the Master's property. Instead, they appeared to spend their entire time within his walls. Since the rooftops in the Master's household show occasional glimpses of other houses and structures stretching far off into the distance, you're provided with enough of the outside world to show what the concubines are missing out on. Given that, it feels like the concubines are stuck in a prison-like environment. A beautifully designed and roomy prison, but a prison nonetheless. The lone room on the roof where prior women were hung and the various punishments the mistresses could receive for breaking the rules are great touches which cause the mistresses to seem even more ensnared in the household.

Overall, this is a brilliant film, albeit one I watched with a couple small interruptions. While watching it, the film buffered at a couple points in the middle due to my internet acting up, thus breaking the flow a bit. This hopefully won't happen again when I rewatch this film later this year though as I can see myself bumping it up to a 10/10 with a second or a third viewing.



1. Gummo (#97)
2. A Moment of Innocece (#76)
3. Raise the Red Lantern (#51)
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8. Carlito's Way (#62)
9. Sonatine (#99)
10. The Celebration (#98)
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14. Perfect Blue (#67)
15. The Thin Red Line (#53)
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18.
19.
20.
21.
22.
23.
24.
25.



I’ve had an absolute shocker the last few days:
Heard of: 9/12
Started: 7/12
Finished: 2/12
In my ballot: 1/12

Bringing my totals to:
Heard of: 39/48
Started: 32/48
Finished: 15/48
In my ballot: 3/48
Maximum films from my ballot that can still make the list: 25/25



I haven't seen a Robert Altman movie that I didn't think highly of, and The Player may be the most entertaining.

Raise the Red Lantern is terrific but not on my ballot.

8. Carlito's Way (#62)
14. The Player (#52)
15. Strange Days (#82)
24. Three Colors: Red (#90)



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The Player rules, but did not make my ballot.

I have yet to see Raise the Red Lantern. Must rectify!
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Also regarding Raise the Red Lantern... did I see that right that it only made six lists? This must mean, if I'm understanding this correctly and just looking briefly at the math, that it must have shown very highly in each of the lists where it voted on - top five high.

I'm pleasantly shocked it appeared as I thought once we got to the half point on this list it wasn't going to show. Glad it made the list.
Based on what everyone has shared, its highest ranking was #3 (Speling) and its lowest was #18 (ScarletLion), with a #7, two #5's, and a #4 in between. So yeah, impressive showing.

Carlito's Way had a similarly impressive run getting 97 out of 5 ballots. Its highest ranking was #1 (mattias) and its lowest was #9 (??), with a #7, and two #8's in between.



Since we're at the halfway mark, here are the odds for the rest of my ballot.

1. 100%
2. 100%
3. 100%
4. 100%
5. 100%
6. 100%
7. 100%
8. 100%
9. The Blair Witch Project (1999, #78)
10. 100%
11. Interview with the Vampire (1994, #92)
12. 100%
13. Election (1999, #74)
14. 50%
15. 40
16. 100%
17. 100%
18. 90%
19. A Few Good Men (1992, #84)
20. 90%
21. 90%
22. 45%
23. 25%
24. 10%
25. 0%

Not bad, but I know I went with a lot of very popular choices for most of my list cause, well, those are the ones I enjoy watching the most.



Also regarding Raise the Red Lantern... did I see that right that it only made six lists? This must mean, if I'm understanding this correctly and just looking briefly at the math, that it must have shown very highly in each of the lists where it voted on - top five high.

I'm pleasantly shocked it appeared as I thought once we got to the half point on this list it wasn't going to show. Glad it made the list.

That's interesting. The forum's equivalent of "critic favorite" film. 6 lists is definitely not many for this cat into the results. I'll have to check it out.



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Another stats at this point : The Popularity Meter

The Data is based on 17 most popular and highly active film web sites in the Christian part of the world. They cover the great majority of languages on this part of the Earth.
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The most popular movies out of the countdown:
(the total number of film buffs who made efforts to rate and claim the movies seen)

Home Alone (1990) I▷ 6.36M
Good Will Hunting (1997) I▷ 5.25M

Beauty and the Beast (1991) I▷ 3.05M
The Fifth Element (1997) I▷ 3.00M

Princess Mononoke (1997) I▷ 2.90M
Dumb and Dumber (1994) I▷ 2.16M
Before Sunrise (1995) I▷ 2.06M

What’s Eating Gilbert Grape (1993) I▷ 1.66M
Total Recall (1990) I▷ 1.48M
Gattaca (1997) I▷ 1.46M
Apollo 13 (1995) I▷ 1.43M
The Fugitive (1993) I▷ 1.35M
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