The MoFos Top 100 of the 90s Countdown - Redux

Hmmm ... interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing that. Just goes to show how the infinite range of personal experience can make judgments about anything (JFK, gumbo, jazz) vary so widely and yet all be so completely valid.

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JFK is a great and challenging film over a difficult subject that still bewilders today. Did anyone read or see anything about the JFK files that were released recently? I haven't.
JFK didn't make my list but it's due for a rewatch.
The Toy Story films on the other hand, I've never had much use for them.

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I think given the state of where our society is at today, especially given the impact of social media and complete distrust of our news media, that NBK is 100x more relevant today than it was 30 years ago in 1994. I'd be surprised if it doesn't make the list.

I LOVE me some Steven Soderbergh and could have easily put four or five of his titles on my ballot (King of the Hill, The Limey, Out of Sight, Schizopolis, and Gray's Anatomy), all are personal favorites. But MoFo-wise...no. Out of Sight is fantastic, a ton of fun, and holds up incredibly well, but it couldn't even crack the Neo-Noir list. Chances of it showing up higher than sixty are essentially nil. Only one Elmore Leonard adaptation is going to make it, and that's because Tarantino made it. Out of Sight and Get Shorty are both very, very worthy of any Top 100 1990s list, but ours will only have Jackie Brown.

A Simple Plan would definitely have shown by now, if it were gonna make the cut. Too many surface similarities to Fargo, and if folks were going to make room for one of those bags of money in the snow flicks it was much more often going to be Joel & Ethan's beloved dark comedy and not their good buddy Sam Raimi's underseen thriller. I suspect no Raimi will make the collective, though I would bet all five of his '90s features - Darkman, Army of Darkness, The Quick and the Dead, A Simple Plan, and For Love of the Game - each got votes (For the Love of the Game is probably somewhere on Yoda's ballot, if nowhere else). I would put Army of Darkness as the one with the best chance, though if it doesn't come in the next fifteen or so reveals I can't see it placing up way, way high.

At this point I think Sling Blade is in real danger of missing, and if THAT didn't make it I can't see any way A Simple Plan finished higher.



Nah. The bulk of the PTA votes went to Magnolia and Boogie Nights. Rightfully so.

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Toy Story 2 does a very good job bringing the themes of the first film into new territory, giving us more great characters and letting the history of franchises do the talking rather than humorous product placement (unless you count a couple overused Star Wars jokes). 97

JFK is a bit too complex, but it never stops being intriguing, exactly what a good legal drama needs. 92.

Seen 28/42, smack dab on the 2/3.

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And yet, it's not enough, not for me. I don't hate it - it's another purely 90s movie that deserves its spot here - but I found it doesn't hold up as well all these decades later, the absurdities and preachiness were a detraction - the ending for example, is ridiculously overwrought, hell Stone, why didn't you have Coster break the 4th wall, turn to the audience, wag his finger in a scolding manner and go, "tsk, tsk, tsk".

Plus, If I want to watch something where the editing does a lot of the heavy lifting, I'll turn to Resnais, something with a political slant, maybe "War is Over"? I'll get a better film and without the absurdities.

But yeah, it's a vibe, if you can vibe with it, it'll probably still be a winner, and the editing is fascinating on its own, to the point where the movie is of more interest academically, the stuff of film school study.

Of course I can't comment on the interesting discussions about content, but there are times as I read where I'm nodding my head 'yes', and others where I'm shaking it 'no'. I have to bite my tongue, but am enjoying the speculation (most of it very educated speculation I might add)

I mentioned early in the thread that I had already collected stats and created graphs for the end of the countdown, and that included a look at the directors - but it's not only for what made the 100 by each, but how many films in total were nominated. And then I got curious if there were any directors who had several movies receive votes, but failed to have any of them crack the top 100? So, I gathered up what I found, and made a list of those with 3 or more unranked movies. I'm looking forward to sharing that info, especially now in light of these conversations and speculations.

It could make it but I, for one, hope it doesn’t. Not a fan of NBK.

Toy Story 2 was all the way up at #5 on my list.

One of my all-time favorite films from my childhood. The original is amazing too but the sequel probably takes a small lead because of how it just naturally elevated all elements and truly made a bigger, broader and deeper film imo.

It still more than holds up for me today and last time I checked it was still a full 5/5 for me. I love it. It’s got everything I want in an animated family film.

As for JFK it’s not on my list… however… it is indeed on my watchlist. Of course. Will I ever see it? Who knows. It’s been there for like 15 or 20 years fyi… fml. So many movies, so little time.

You did and I'm delighted to be wrong.

I think that's the way it is with many/most things. That's why I usually find 40-70 where most of my films reside and the first 50 or 60 are the most interesting of a list on a subject you know a lot about.

You mean opposed to his newer output? Do you know something about this we don't?

It's not, because that would be one of the greatest films of all time and, if it is, then I need to watch it again because that would explain why my friends were so surprised I didn't instantly love it..

Have you seen Scarface? Because that is Vice City.

Maybe I should have this as my signature while the countdown is on?

One of mine has shown, but I'll pick it up in my next post here. It's been quite the day.

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JF who?

Speaking of the 1990s, another beloved cult flick that won't be showing on our list at this point is Tremors (1990). Look what Netflix just announced...

Tremors rocked, what a fun movie, fun cast with chemistry and cool as hell location.

Too bad Fred Ward died before Bacon decided to come back. I know Michael Gross had been in some of the sequels (which I have never bothered to watch), and obviously Reba McEntire is alive and well and working a lot. Finn Carter had some legal troubles five or six years back and hasn't worked in a long time, i have no idea if she is even being considered.

Should be fun, whoever joins Bacon!

I recently revisited the film after a loooong time, and it held up really well. Never caught up any of the sequels which just seems to get sillier and sillier. However, I just don't understand why SyFy passed on this TV series back in 2015, especially considering that Bacon was on board and they did filmed a pilot.

‘Tremors’ Reboot Pilot Starring Kevin Bacon Not Going Forward At SyFy

Maybe if they had done it back then they could've gotten Fred Ward back. The best part of the original film is the banter and chemistry between him and Bacon.

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I can confirm that at least two of those movies got at least one vote each.

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Busy day for me and lots of posts to catch up on! I'm enjoying the level of Mofo participation here. Great minds coming together for the common good. Thank you all.

Toy Story 2 is the 3rd best Toy Story movie but that's pretty dang good if you ask me. JFK is the 1st best Oliver Stone movie and that's pretty dang good if you ask me. I had it at #8. It's a Top 100 film for me. One of those from the 90s that always rewards. Brilliant in execution, madness in what is truth, and I believe very relevant today for all sorts of reasons.

1. Close-Up (1990)
8. JFK (1991)
12. A Moment of Innocence (1996)
18. Apollo 13 (1995)
20. Sonatine (1993)
23. Three Colors: Blue (1993)

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I was just looking over the points so far and I'm surprised how close it is. My #2 vote for Toy Story 2 moved it up about 20 places in the list. So if you don't like it, and it beat one of your favorites, you can blame me.

Tremors has one of my all time favorite gun scenes in film with the sequence inside the rec room blasting the Hell out of the worm thing. Been years since I've watched Tremors, but it was one of my favorites as a kid.