The MoFos Top 100 of the 90s Countdown - Redux

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Towards the other end of the spectrum, four directors each
appear twice in my list, and every other director only appears once.
Two directors with three each. No other repeats (somewhat by design).

I've ranked my picks according my prediction on whether they'd place. One of those two directors has three films with a "good" chance, while the other with three has two "fair" chances and one "no chance."

Good Chance: 0/12
Fair Chance: 2/10
- Sleepless in Seattle: #91 / My #3
- Office Space: #95 / My #23
No Chance: 0/3
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Blue is terrific, yet somehow it was my least favorite of the trilogy.

Have never seen Apollo 13. I'm not as much of a Tom Hanks fan as I once thought I was, and with some exceptions, I'm also not a big fan of space films. I'd definitely watch it though.



Reading your comment again, I can see that I have slightly misinterpreted/misrepresented it.

It still seems though, even if you were being more nuanced than I'd credited, that you seem to be saying you would rather he made a film delivering a different message to the one that he did. It seems to me that you are still effectively criticising the director for not presenting the debate which you would like to have been presented.

Isn't it a case of waiting for that particular film to come along, and in the mean time assess A Short Film About Killing for what it is? rather than for what it isn't or what else it might have been?
A lot of films say something, or make the attempt, they take a position, but that doesn't give them a free pass. Well, he meant to do this, so we can't criticize it. No, we criticize movies because we feel they fail to do this or that all the time, even great movies and directors - and something in the delivery didn't gel. I felt the approach here, the message, which was very important to director, was delivered with a heavy hand... that a subtler, more nuanced approach might have made for a better picture. I am judging the movie for what it is, and I found it lacking. It's not the position, it's the telling, which felt forced to me.

Now, you can get away with that sometimes... I'm not really in line with Mrinal Sen's politics for example, but I love how he tells a story, how he relays the message. I thought Chorus, for example, was amazing filmmaking, even though he's repeatedly hitting his audience over the head with a big Marxist hammer. I think the politics in Soy Cuba are the same - big hammer propaganda, but it's so gorgeously filmed and such a powerfully told picture, that I'm absolutely enthralled with it. And I go along with it not because I agree or disagree with its position, but because on cinematic terms, it's astonishing.

But I feel Kieslowski stumbles in his telling, most especially as a stand-alone. Certainly, you can take a humanistic approach about a horrible act, Dostoevsky did so with Crime and Punishment, where even this murderer receives grace - even if he doesn't deserve it, and he knows he doesn't deserve it, he receives it, in the form of Sonja, who represents that Christ like grace and forgiveness.



Isn't it a case of waiting for that particular film to come along, and in the mean time assess A Short Film About Killing for what it is? rather than for what it isn't or what else it might have been?

Any film "might've been" something else. The crew behind Saw "might've" kept the getaway car's model in mind before just grabbing another one to finish a scene because they didn't think anyone would've noticed. And in the eyes of the subjective, moral standards can easily play a part in something, especially if certain information feels forced or basic, not progressing or advancing as far as it should.
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If you're going to approach it from a child's point of view then it kinda changes the topic of discussion, doesn't it.



We're gonging French movies now?
This one was special case gong just for raul and SC.
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I was wondering what the gong was about, I thought it might be a meme type of thing, but a googleearch came up empty... "Hmm, then it must be a MoFo thing"



Positively surprised to see Blue above Red . I always saw Red rated as the best one. Not holding my breath for White though.



And one more thought about the debate on A Short Film About a Killing - I'll entertain the idea that I could be wrong, that I'm missing something. When I don't love a movie that's considered a beloved classic, I often question myself (and I'm talking about higher level pieces - I'm not losing sleep over not loving Home Alone as much as others do).

While some folks get mad at the movie, get mad at the people who admire it, I'll often look at myself and search for a reason why - this was worthwhile to a lot of people I respect, am I being stupid here, and if so, let's not cling to my stupidity and figure this out, because certain movies are worth it.

For example, friends would wonder why I kept going back to Jeanne Dielman when I couldn't stand it... for decades I did this, watch, study, ask questions, watch again... it was actually the people here, folks like SpelingError and crumbsroom with his advice on how to approach it from a musical, rhythm standpoint who helped the most, they gave me the key to unlocking the thing, and it was like the scales fell from my eyes, "Holy ---- I can see it, I finally understand, and it's incredible and worth all the time I spent on it" Why do I go back, why do I question myself, that's why, the reward is worth it when it clicks.

So, by all means, push back on me, tell where I got it wrong. I'll defend my position probably, and when it's all said and done, I could feel the same, that my criticisms are valid (I'm looking at you, the ending to "No Country for Old Men"), but tell me anyway. It's like good medicine.



Juliette Binoche is one of the best. Anything she is in is a must see for me. Apollo 13 is an excellent movie. And yet… neither is on my list.



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Apollo 13 is good. I saw it once a few years ago. I enjoyed it. I never had the desire to rewatch it.

I don't watch French films anymore. I've hated each one I've seen.
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That’s a strong reaction. Which French films have you seen?
I don't remember all of them. I know I've seen Breathless, 400 Blows, Mon Oncle, Passion Joan d'Arc, and Le Samourai. There are others I fail to recall. I can't stand any of them.



I don't remember all of them. I know I've seen Breathless, 400 Blows, Mon Oncle, Passion Joan d'Arc, and Le Samourai. There are others I fail to recall. I can't stand any of them.
You poor soul. But if you like tense movies, as suggested by several movies in your top 10, check out A Man Escaped and Army of Shadows. Now I agree that Le Samourai is a bit overrated, but Army of Shadows is legit, as well as 400 Blows and Passion of Joan of Arc.



My pants ran off with an antelope.
You poor soul. But if you like tense movies, as suggested by several movies in your top 10, check out A Man Escaped and Army of Shadows. Now I agree that Le Samourai is a bit overrated, but Army of Shadows is legit, as well as 400 Blows and Passion of Joan of Arc.
Tension is good. I don't know that those will appeal to me. I can look into them at least. I won't make any predictions on anything though.



Tension is good. I don't know that those will appeal to me. I can look into them at least. I won't make any predictions on anything though.
I hope at least one of them will work, as a top ten is only a general basis for guessing. If I had to tell you my highest rated French movie, it's Amelie.



My pants ran off with an antelope.
I hope at least one of them will work, as a top ten is only a general basis for guessing. If I had to tell you my highest rated French movie, it's Amelie.
I've heard of that one. It hadn't piqued my interest. The two you mentioned are centered around World War II so that helps. Maybe if I can find them for free I can give them a go.