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I'm a big fan of Kubrick and while I like Full Metal Jacket it didn't make my list. I have my criticisms of the film but appreciate those of you who are defending it in advance of the first half/second half debate. I like how Speling put it and I've been planning a Kubrick rewatch festival and will keep this in mind and see how it plays if and when I watch the film again.
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I had Full Metal Jacket as my lucky number thirteen, 13 of its 423 points. It was the first Kubrick I had the opportunity to see in its initial run (I was ten-years-old when The Shining was released). I was starting to get more and more seriously and deeper and deeper into cinema, so I was already well versed in Kubrick. Back then I went to one or two movies a week, every week, and even if I wasn't familiar with Kubrick and his legend I would have seen FMJ anyway. In the U.S. it was released in July of 1987 and the new release competition was Revenge of the Nerds II: Nerds in Paradise, White Water Summer, and The Brave Little Toaster so I would have seen it as clearly the most promising choice of the new crop. No surprise I was instantly transfixed.

HOLDEN'S BALLOT
1. The Thin Red Line (#17)
4. Casablanca (#14)
7. Fires on the Plain (#59)
9. Army of Shadows (#29)
10. Waltz with Bashir (#45)
11. The Pianist (#23)
13. Full Metal Jacket (#7)
14. MASH (#39)
15. Rome, Open City (#37)
16. Letters from Iwo Jima (#60)
17. The Battle of Algiers (#24)
18. The Great Escape (#19)
19. The Ascent (#33)
20. The Big Red One (DNP)
21. The Killing Fields (#69)
22. Catch-22 (DNP)
23. Joyeux Noël (DNP)
24. Coming Home (DNP)
25. The Wind That Shakes the Barley (DNP)


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I'll keep it short -- well, except for the stuff on my list - not so much.


22: The Great Dictator (1940, Charlie Chaplin) I've always admired and considered Chaplin to be a man with a beautiful, childlike soul when it came to his cinematic work. And with this movie, that soul cries out with child-like urgency: Stop! PLEASE, stop!

21: The Best Years of Our Lives (1946, William Wyler) A poignant and well-crafted "After The War" and three servicemen and what it has done to them.

20: The Cranes Are Flying (1968, Mikhail Kalatozov) Like numerous Life-affirming films that illustrate the Beauty of those enduring Horrorific situations, TCAF captures the very essence of it and all the subtitles, nuances, and cinematic magic that we, as movie lovers, crave: To be engaged, be entertained, laugh, cry, and be happily lost in the story/film before us.

Coming in at #1



19: The Great Escape (1963, John Sturges)

The Great Escape reigns high on my List of Countless Watches from early childhood of viewings on TV on both Night at the Movies or the Afternoon Movies where it was split into two days. For the longest time, there was not a year that did not pass without watching this film that has endeared itself to my heart.
While there is a certain amount of Hollywood glamourizing to the storyline, it still remains an incredible story adhering rather closely to historical fact, with, of course, that all American prisoners had been moved prior to what occurred. It does not change my love and adoration for this film. From the score that slips into my brain at any given time from the "first day" of foiled escape attempts where we are introduced to the cast, the details brought forth in tunneling, disposing of the dirt, the counterfeiting of documents, the 4th of July celebration of ass-kicking moonshine and the tragedy that sobers the moment of joy to the very escape itself as everyone makes a mad dash at freedom. To this day, the end dedication to the fifty executed still affects me.
I have adored this film throughout my life, and its position in the first place was guaranteed. Seeing it just "break out" of the twenties at #19 is f@ckin awesome! THANK YOU MoFos!!

17. The Thin Red Line (1998, Terrence Malick) Saw this at the Theater upon release, thinking it was something along Platoon. I was not prepared for Malick's style nor the ability at the time to appreciate him. Should revisit but still count it as a see.

Coming in at #15


16. Platoon (1986)

[first lines]
Pvt. Gardner: [seeing body bags] Oh, man. Is that what I think it is?
Sergeant: All right, you cheese-dicks, welcome to the Nam. Follow me!

It's not often you see a war film that is a sans glorification of the ones involved in it. And this, my friends, is high on that list.
An extremely intense, nerve-racking ordeal that shows the reality of war for us lucky ones who never had to go and a reminder to those poor b@stards who did of the demons that still plague both their waking hours as much as their sleeping ones.
Oliver Stone wrote and would direct a lot of the sh#t that he experienced while in Nam and put the actors through an utter hell of not only basic training but also kept them sleep-deprived and ran them ragged to get the most realistic feel of those out in the field.
It is also extremely well done technically when it comes to tactical and day-to-day affairs of war. At the very heart of this war film are the two "fathers" who seem to be split from the same soul, played with such aggressive brilliance by both Tom Berenger and Willem Defoe. Together, they signified the two sides of the war-torn coin. The only thing more haunting than some of the events of the film is the soundtrack. Specifically, Samuel Barber's "Adagio for Strings" plays over some of the more emotional scenes, and it is SUCH a heart-rendering bit of music as if your very soul is weeping. A beautiful bit of music that still affects me to this day.

15. Inglourious Basterds (2009) It's Tarantino who is great at twisting a scene into something crazy and over the top, entertaining the f@ck out of me.

14. Casablanca (1942) A lifetime favorite, this could have easily made my list and scored high on my 40s Countdown, but it did not make this one. There is an absolute array of favorite scenes and quotes: dialogue, characters (from the main all the way down to extras), the music, cinematic and technical aspects, and so forth. This movie ALWAYS puts a smile on my face, and I relish sitting through it every single time.

Coming in at #20

13. Downfall (2004)

This is an exceptional film with far more gravitas on a far more expanded field than similar films I have seen on the final days as Russia invaded Berlin.
Starting with the POV/witness and our escort into the doomed Bunker, with actual footage of Hitler's secretary, Traudl Junge, in both the opening and closing of this film. This perspective seemed to open the doors to many occurrences involving lower officers and staff, along with Bruno Ganz's impressive multi-layered performance of Adolf Hitler. For all the parody fodder that erupted on YouTube, I remained mesmerized by the Humanity and pathos contained throughout the Bunker and its privileged residents and the very streets of Berlin as the citizens were caught in the crosshairs of both Russian invaders and the cold disregard dealt with them by their leaders.

Even if this were not a Historical Piece, it would still be a compelling film with all that occurs within this finely crafted film of a very grim comeuppance and the devoted zealots who went down with the blazing ship.


Coming in at #6


12. Grave of the Fireflies (1988)

Setsuko: Why do fireflies die so soon?

This is one of two heartbreakers that I've included on my list, the second one not making the Countdown. This was everything I had expected it to be, including how beautifully sad it would end up being. I knew for a fact that I would have rather not viewed this for the emotional impact it would cause me. Knowing full well how incredibly beautiful this film would be and is.
It still permeates and weighs me down. Its emotional impact was still powerful enough to circumvent the foreknowledge of what would occur, along with the opening scene. The inevitable sadness STILL affected me due to how masterfully poetic director Isao Takahata brings this story of orphaned Seito trying his very best to care for his little sister, Setsuko, amidst the ever-present air bombing. Its devastation was relentlessly visited by American aircraft continually bombing Japan at the end of WWII.

11. Schindler's List (1993) I was both impressed by and emotionally captured through it all by the humanity of the victims and the precious few survivors. Spielberg deserves every accolade he was given for making this film. There is a beautiful balance between the death that is, at times, overwhelming but, more importantly, the Life of those who suffered it.

Coming in at #21

9. Das Boot aka The Boat (1981)

I own a double VHS of the extended director's cut of this film and always found it quite fulfilling exploring life on a U-Boat. I am curious to see the shorter version and perhaps compare, but for now, I will praise this film and its addition to my List for taking me deep into the precarious life of the German shipmates and all that they encountered and the effects upon them all. The ending will always cause my heart to drop, having become so completely engaged with them all. An excellent, EXCELLENT film.

Coming in at #19

8. Saving Private Ryan (1998)

For me, the epitome of the Day of Storming Normandy extends to a personalized fictional search of the last surviving brother of three soldiers to be sent home, making it protocol to prevent the very common scenario of entire families being decimated by war. A story I remembered from childhood based on real-life The Fighting Sullivans (1944). I am forever moved by this film on the countless rewatches; its placement was pretty much a guarantee from the get-go.

7. Full Metal Jacket (1987) Is a film whose first half outweighs commentary in the second half, but still, WHAT a second half. Sadly, having already placed two others from that era and war, I just did not have room to place this one.




Countdown List Watched 52 out of 94 (57.45%)
1. The Great Escape (1963) (#28)
2. Rome, Open City aka Roma città aperta (1945) (1945) (#37)
3. Stalag 17 (1953) (#35)
4. All Quiet on the Western Front (2022) (#66)
5. Patton (1970) (#28)
6. Grave of Fireflies (1988) (#12)
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8.
9. l'armee des ombres aka Army of Shadows (1969) (#29)
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11. M*A*S*H (1970) (#39)
12. The Dirty Dozen (1967) (#32)
13. Glory (1989)) (#38)
14. Johnny Got His Gun (1971) (#97)
15. Platoon (1986) (#16)
16.
17. Braveheart (1995) (#25)
18.
19. Saving Private Ryan (1988) (#8)
20. Downfall (2004) (#13)
21. Das Boot aka The Boat (1981) (#9)
22. 1917 (2019) (#31)
23. Mrs. Miniver (1942) (#85)
24.
25.

One-Pointers Watched 5 out of 24 (20.83%)

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My #20. Hair (1979)

Directed by Miloš Forman
Starring John Savage, Treat Williams and Beverly D'Angelo

This film was a big hit back in the day. No students party could be held without its music.
John Savage scored twice in 1978-79: The Deer Hunter and Hair, becoming one of the top stars of the time. (He scored twice on my ballot too)
Couldn't skip this title. Unfortunately, it gained not much love here.

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My Ballot

1. Empire of the Sun (1987) [#40]
2...
3. The Pianist (2002) [#23]
4...
5. Underground (1995) [#43]
6. The Deer Hunter (1978) [#25]
7...
8. Ivan's Childhood (1962) [#56]
9. Platoon (1986) [#16]
10. The Great Dictator (1940) [#22]
11. The Thin Red Line (1998) [#17]
12...
13. Ice Cold In Alex (1958) [#119]
14. Enemy at the Gates (2001) [#88]
15. The Hill (1965) [#94]
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18. The Hurt Locker (2008) [#58]
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20. Hair (1979) [DNP]
21. Saving Private Ryan (1998) [#8]
22. Catch-22 (1970) [#116]
23...
24. Black Book (2006) [DNP]
25. The Book Thief (2013) [DNP]






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Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
Director

Stanley Kubrick, 1964

Starring

Peter Sellers, George C. Scott, Sterling Hayden, Keenan Wynn



Dr. Strangelove was my number 24. On my list: Peter Sellers acts his way through every angle of the movie, be it war, absurdism and everything in between. As a pair, Kubrick and Sellers are a powerful force of comedy.



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Dr. Strangelove...it's a funny and well made movie but no votes from me. I never loved it, though it's entertaining, but it doesn't feel like a war film to me.



Dr. Strangelove didn't make my list (it was a late cut), but it's a great film. It just wasn't fresh enough in my mind when I assembled my ballot.
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Dr. Strangelove...it's a funny and well made movie but no votes from me. I never loved it, though it's entertaining, but it doesn't feel like a war film to me.
I like to think of it as taking place in an alternate universe where the Cold War was an actual war.



Trouble with a capitial 'T'
I like to think of it as taking place in an alternate universe where the Cold War was an actual war.
I'm not sure what to make of that? Are you saying of course it's a war film because the cold war was real? Or should I read your post at face value? Honestly asking as I'm not sure how to parse that?



I had Dr. Strangelove at #25, as a sort of token nod. It’s more a commentary on the absurdity of a nuclear war rather than a true war movie, but then, it is about the FINAL war. Which of course results from our own stupidity, arrogance, and shortsightedness. While possessing weapons that can destroy the planet many times over, we nonetheless play these childish games, and nothing good can come from that. I like it more than most the movies on my list, but it felt right at the end, and I knew it didn’t need my help.
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Yeah, Strangelove was banned by own criteria. The part where I outlined "no nuclear" as to help trim my list. It takes nothing away what a fine film it is. It is a victim of myself.

I pushed my own criteria with including "Pan's Labyrinth". But my hypocrisy only goes so far.



Yesss! This is on my list. This is a movie in which Kubrick’s chill is effective. Peter Sellers is hilarious as Dr. Strangelove. His frustration, desperation and humanity as the English Lieutenant up against the mad General is the one bit of warmth in this film. So many great performances and classic scenes. Slim Pickins riding the nuclear bomb like a cowboy is the ultimate meme for American foreign policy. This movie continues to give. Kubrick at his best.



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Paths Of Glory is the surprise of this list for me. Never expected it top 5, or highest Kubrick.

Strangelove is good not great for me. If I do ever fall in love with it, it will be as a comedy not a war flick.
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Dr. Strangelove made my list. I was conflicted though because it’s not a war movie. But there is a war room, and they do fight in it. So close enough.