The MoFo Top 100 of the Nineties Countdown

[Guaporense]

Well, it's a quite common criticism, Guap.

What? You said you are parodying now you say it's criticism. I don't understand what you are saying.

You should google it. I can say with confidence that anime is wildly overrated.

You should explain yourself better. Who is wildly overrating it? What it means to overrate a whole set of about 10,000 titles that comprise the totality of Japanese animation?

Nobody here ever said that "anime is amazing", all my opinions are in relation to individual titles not to the collective set of all titles. Anyway, given that only Miyazaki (and maybe Oshii and Kon) is (are) know among film critics I think that anime is mostly unknown outside it's niche public.

[Deadite]

Well, Guap, I estimate from internet that approximately 70% of criticism of anime relates to its genre cliches, inappropriate sexualization of minors and giant robots, and deafening squeals from doe-eyed vixens with jiggling bosoms. Factor in the subset of engrish sub & bad dubbing haters, and we've reached a critical mass of 85%.

It's really not so hard to understand.

[OMEGA5]

Edit: Stupid multi posts...

[jiraffejustin]

The majority of everything sucks. I know you are just trolling Guapo right now, but still.

[OMEGA5]

Guap is a bit young for the 80's that's all. Calm down guap that's not me bullying you, that's just an observation. From what I gather you are in your early 20s, which stands to reason you have seen more movies from the 90s and 2000s.

I for one would like to do an 80s list, but what say we finish this one first.

Unforgiven is an excellent film, I would have expected it a bit higher but it's still in a good spot. The Matrix, however revolutionary the action was for it's time is a 3 star movie at best. Cool concept, decent execution, Reeves is not a good actor and it IMO doesn't really hold up too well.

[OMEGA5]

For the record I love RoboCop.

[Deadite]

Robocop would've been better if it was a Miyazaki. :)

[jiraffejustin]

It probably would have been actually.

[Deadite]

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[Pussy Galore]

Great pair ! The Matrix was number 5 on my list and Unforgiven would be between number 26 and 30

[teeter_g]

Had The Matrix at #7. Still figure 6 more of my list will be on here. We shall see. :)

[Camo]

Damn, i'm surprised that Unforgiven didn't make the top 10. I had it at number 1 of course, such a great film. I'm happy that the Matrix missed out though because i've never been a fan.

1) Pulp Fiction
2) Goodfellas
3) The Big Lebowski
4) Fight Club
5) The Shawshank Redemption
6) Schindler's List
7) Reservoir Dogs
8) Magnolia
9) Se7en
10) L.A. Confidential

Watched - 55/90

List - 10/25

Another 8 should make my list.

[Thursday Next]

The Matrix and Unforgiven were both on my list, at #2 and #23 respectively.

I've seen a lot of groaning and eye-rolling at The Matrix, but it's here because people love it and put it on their lists. So yes it does deserve it's place.

I was seventeen when The Matrix came out and it was the best thing I had ever seen on screen. An intelligent, absorbing action sci-fi movie with a dash of romance, what’s not to like? Even now it is in my top ten, whereas other films which impressed me in the nineties have lost their appeal.

The Wachowskis are interesting and distinctive directors, everything they’ve made is worth watching (with one exception, but more on that later). The Matrix is really well shot, with a distinctive blue/green palette; every scene has clearly been planned out for how it’s going to look, and it’s effective, from the scene in which the car door opens in the rain to Agent Smith opening the file it looks fantastic.

It’s fun, with plenty of memorable, quotable dialogue, from “there is no spoon” to “dodge this”, but just dark enough to be properly thrilling. Keanu Reeves is perfectly cast as the perpetually bemused Neo (as the Oracle says, “You’re cuter than I thought…not too bright though”) and Lawrence Fishburne, Carrie-Anne Moss and Joe Pantoliano are good, although Hugo Weaving as the sinister Agent Smith is probably the stand out. There are characters we can connect with and root for or against and remember. The soundtrack is great, too.

There’s a lot about this film that is original and innovative and interesting, especially the effects. It’s been hugely influential and has countless imitators. Sure, there are aspects pinched from Ghost in the Shell, like the telephone booths, but the story as a whole is not the same at all, so it really can’t be dismissed as a copy. It also draws on a whole pic n mix of philosophical themes and cultural references, from Morpheus the god of dreams to Buddhism to Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, and it’s all the richer for it.

There’s only one thing that lets The Matrix down, and that’s the sequels. Or more specifically Revolutions (since I actually quite like Reloaded). But since this is a 90s list, we can pretend that doesn’t exist yet…

[JayDee]

Unforgiven is an excellent film although I didn't vote for it. The Matrix however I absolutely adore! I had it all the way up at #3 on my list. I think I caught it at just about the perfect age (13) to find it the coolest thing ever!!! and to be honest that's kind of stuck with me. I still think it's just about the coolest thing ever! :D

And also Magnolia made the top 10! :bawling:

^ And those ain't happy tears!

[jiraffejustin]

I had Unforgiven at #2. I am slightly disappointed it didn't crack the top ten.

[Frightened Inmate No. 2]

1) Pulp Fiction
2) The Big Lebowski
3) Goodfellas
4) Fight Club
5) The Shawshank Redemption
6) Magnolia
7). Reservoir Dogs
8) Se7en
9) Schindler's List
10) L.A. Confidential

[jal90]

Whoa, every time I come here there's some crazy discussion out there.

Is parody another concept that eludes you?

I love a good anime. I just hate trying to get into an anime and 7 times out of ten having to turn it off because of the implied pedophilia.
Hey hey. It's not that I'm completely dismissing this opinion, but the last time I read someone use this "implied pedophilia" argument seriously, it was as a reason to not watch a shoujo anime (Princess Tutu). And the guy looked so convinced with his reasoning.

Oh, and on the list. I think I'd better update it:

100. Con Air
99. The Hole
98. Speed
97. Beauty and the Beast - 4.5
96. Edward Scissorhands - 5 #15
95. Show Me Love
94. The Sixth Sense - 5 #17
93. Short Cuts
92. Sling Blade
91. Heavenly Creatures
90. Dark City
89. Scream
88. The Sweet Hereafter
87. Rushmore
86. The Fifth Element
85. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - 4
84. The Player
83. Point Break
82. Batman Returns
81. Farewell My Concubine - 3
80. Close-Up
79. Naked Lunch
78. Fallen Angels
77. JFK
76. A Brighter Summer Day
75. Happiness - 4.5
74. Starship Troopers - 4
73. Life Is Beautiful
72. Donnie Brasco
71. All About My Mother
70. Before Sunrise - 4
69. La Haine - 4
68. Army of Darkness
67. The Nightmare Before Christmas - 4.5
66. Trois couleurs: Bleu
65. Whisper of the Heart - 5 #7
64. The Boondock Saints
63. Funny Games - 5 #16
62. As Good as It Gets - 4.5
61. Twelve Monkeys
60. Babe - 5 #11
59. Dumb and Dumber - 4.5
58. The Double Life of Veronique
57. The Lion King - 3.5
56. Underground - 5 #12
55. Hoop Dreams
54. Trois couleurs: Rouge
53. Toy Story 2 - 3.5
52. Breaking the Waves
51. Hana-bi - 4
50. Total Recall
49. Ed Wood - 5 #3
48. Dazed and Confused
47. True Romance - 4.5
46. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - 4
45. Clerks - 4.5
44. Jackie Brown
43. Sonatine
42. The Straight Story - 4.5
41. Barton Fink
40. Man Bites Dog
39. Naked
38. The Truman Show - 5
37. Miller's Crossing - 5 #18
36. Casino - 5
35. Dead Man - 3.5
34. Jurassic Park - 4
33. Trainspotting - 5 #4
32. Braveheart
31. Chungking Express
30. American History X - 5
29. Toy Story - 5 #22
28. The Thin Red Line
27. Good Will Hunting
26. Being John Malkovich
25. Groundhog Day - 5 #13
24. American Beauty - 5 #6
23. Leon: The Professional - 4
22. Princess Mononoke - 5
21. Heat
20. The Usual Suspects - 4
19. Terminator 2: Judgment Day - 4.5
18. Saving Private Ryan - 3.5
17. Forrest Gump
16. The Silence of the Lambs - 5 #24
15. Eyes Wide Shut - 4.5
14. Fargo - 4.5
13. Boogie Nights
12. Unforgiven - 4.5
11. The Matrix - 4.5

So far it's 44/90 watched and 14 of my entries. I expect at least 2-3 more or them to appear so I guess it will end around the average.

[Masterman]

Hey everyone been on my holidays. Nice to see this list has picked up abit :). 17 of my list so far, niccceeeee.

[gandalf26]

Really surprised Unforgiven didn't get higher.

[Guaporense]

I though that both The Matrix and Unforgiven would be in the top 10, well, top 12 is not that different. I also though that The Truman Show would be higher.

[Guaporense]

Hey hey. It's not that I'm completely dismissing this opinion, but the last time I read someone use this "implied pedophilia" argument seriously, it was as a reason to not watch a shoujo anime (Princess Tutu). And the guy looked so convinced with his reasoning.

I have watched a couple of episodes of Princess Tutu, it's all right, I would never imagine that one would think that's pedophilia. However, I know a couple of titles that actually portray girls under 16 years old in erotic ways (I found Strike Witches to be particularly offensive). Still over 90% of the manga/anime I know doesn't feature any of such content.

[Skepsis93]

There's definitely been a few surprises so far, and I think that will carry on into the top 10.

Pulp Fiction
The Big Lebowski
Goodfellas
Fight Club
Magnolia
The Shawshank Redemption
Se7en
Reservoir Dogs
Schindler's List
L.A. Confidential


I like both Unforgiven and The Matrix (both 4-) but didn't vote for either.

[Thursday Next]

I am just awaiting the uproar when one of these movies everyone is absolutely sure will be in the top 10 doesn't make it. Maybe nobody actually voted for L.A. Confidential or Schindler's List and Satantango and Pump Up the Volume are there instead.

[donniedarko]

Schindlers List had enough point from me and mark alone to make the list, and I'm sure others loved it enough to include it. But I do have a feeling that one of the top ten movies will be a surprise, or at the least a surprise in order

[Miss Vicky]

I voted for both Schindler's List and L.A. Confidential.

[The Gunslinger45]

I voted for Schindler's List

[Mingusings]

100. Con Air
99. The Hole
98. Speed
97. Beauty and the Beast
96. Edward Scissorhands 4
95. Show Me Love
94. The Sixth Sense 4
93. Short Cuts
92. Sling Blade
91. Heavenly Creatures
90. Dark City 3_5
89. Scream 3_5
88. The Sweet Hereafter
87. Rushmore
86. The Fifth Element 3_5
85. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels 3_5
84. The Player
83. Point Break
82. Batman Returns
81. Farewell My Concubine
80. Close-Up
79. Naked Lunch
78. Fallen Angels
77. JFK
76. A Brighter Summer Day
75. Happiness 4_5
74. Starship Troopers
73. Life Is Beautiful
72. Donnie Brasco
71. All About My Mother
70. Before Sunrise 4
69. La Haine
68. Army of Darkness
67. The Nightmare Before Christmas 3_5
66. Trois couleurs: Bleu 3_5
65. Whisper of the Heart
64. The Boondock Saints 2_5
63. Funny Games
62. As Good as It Gets
61. Twelve Monkeys 4
60. Babe
59. Dumb and Dumber 2
58. The Double Life of Veronique
57. The Lion King 3
56. Underground
55. Hoop Dreams
54. Trois couleurs: Rouge 2_5
53. Toy Story 2 4
52. Breaking the Waves 5
51. Hana-bi
50. Total Recall
49. Ed Wood
48. Dazed and Confused 4
47. True Romance 3_5
46. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
45. Clerks 4
44. Jackie Brown 3
43. Sonatine
42. The Straight Story
41. Barton Fink
40. Man Bites Dog
39. Naked
38. The Truman Show 4
37. Miller's Crossing
36. Casino 4
35. Dead Man
34. Jurassic Park 4
33. Trainspotting 3_5
32. Braveheart
31. Chungking Express
30. American History X 3_5
29. Toy Story 4
28. The Thin Red Line 3_5
27. Good Will Hunting 3_5
26. Being John Malkovich 4
25. Groundhog Day 4
24. American Beauty 4
23. Leon: The Professional 4
22. Princess Mononoke 3_5
21. Heat 3
20. The Usual Suspects 3_5
19. Terminator 2: Judgment Day
18. Saving Private Ryan 4
17. Forrest Gump
16. The Silence of the Lambs 4
15. Eyes Wide Shut 5
14. Fargo 3_5
13. Boogie Nights 4_5
12. Unforgiven 3_5
11. The Matrix 4

I didn't save my list, but I bolded the ones I think I had.

[jiraffejustin]

I voted for 7 of the movies coming up in our top ten. The consensus top movies of the 90s are mostly deserving.

[wintertriangles]

Maybe nobody actually voted for L.A. Confidential.Don't tease me

[gandalf26]

I am just awaiting the uproar when one of these movies everyone is absolutely sure will be in the top 10 doesn't make it. Maybe nobody actually voted for L.A. Confidential or Schindler's List and Satantango and Pump Up the Volume are there instead.

Not possible. Harry has been letting people know when they predict the wrong films and he hasn't said a word for the last few guesses (except to laugh at the order guesses).

[stevo3001]

20. The Usual Suspects- MY LIST: 23- Some serious wit and style, Several cuts above almost all the rest of the post-Tarantino talkie crime movies. I don't know if I'd be able to stand quite so much Kevin Spacey nowadays.

19. Terminator 2: Judgment Day- Sequel is bigger, louder and cheesier, and all round, weaker. I mean it's not bad as action films go, but of all the the times I've seen it, I never remember actually enjoying it, except to laugh at parts like 'now I know why you cry'.

18. Saving Private Ryan- The landings are among the greatest battle scenes ever filmed. Not much worth remembering over the rest of the journey.

17. Forrest Gump- I don't care about this either way.

16. The Silence of the Lambs- An iconic character, good acting all round, a good film.

15. Eyes Wide Shut- A laughable, embarrassing failure.

14. Fargo- MY LIST: 12- Not a moment of this could be any better.

13. Boogie Nights- It's a couple of levels below the better Altman movies that inspired it, and like most of Anderson's movies there is something missing, but the cast has a lot of talent and enough of the performances are interesting, and it's shot well.

12. Unforgiven- The last good movie Clint Eastwood made, the last one where his attempts at grit and gravitas worked to an extent and gave the films some power rather than leaving the movie dull and turgid.

11. The Matrix- It's all style, and rather unidimensional and dated style, but it was quite fresh and interesting at the time and did give cinema some innovations.

[HandyApe]

Whoa, every time I come here there's some crazy discussion out there.


Hey hey. It's not that I'm completely dismissing this opinion, but the last time I read someone use this "implied pedophilia" argument seriously, it was as a reason to not watch a shoujo anime (Princess Tutu). And the guy looked so convinced with his reasoning.

So far it's 44/90 watched and 14 of my entries. I expect at least 2-3 more or them to appear so I guess it will end around the average.


Wow, you love '90s movies. :)

[Gabrielle947]

Maybe nobody actually voted for L.A. Confidential or Schindler's List
Voted for both :)

[HandyApe]

1) Pulp Fiction
2) The Big Lebowski
3) Goodfellas
4) Fight Club
5) The Shawshank Redemption
6) Magnolia
7). Reservoir Dogs
8) Se7en
9) Schindler's List
10) L.A. Confidential

Although I don't know the tastes of the members here, I think Goodfellas will be ahead of The Big Lebowski.

[Frightened Inmate No. 2]

It probably will be, I just wanted to be different.

[Guaporense]

The IMDB ratings are a good predictor of the broadness of appeal of these films and thus enable us to roughly predict their order of appearance. Also the number of votes is important in measuring the film's relative popularity.

[honeykid]

Well, since I don't have a car (yet!), it is complicated. I like the fact that orange juice and cheddar cheese is good here but I dislike the bananas and apples sold in the markets.
Wait. American cheese? Unless you mean unpasteurised. Otherwise, it tastes like soap. :sick:

I liked it, it's not great but not bad (well, I think its better than Family Guy)
Isn't almost everything better than Family Guy, though?

inappropriate sexualization of minors
To an Americans sensibilities. That's not a worldwide standard.

It’s fun, with plenty of memorable, quotable dialogue, from “there is no spoon” to “dodge this”, but just dark enough to be properly thrilling. Keanu Reeves is perfectly cast as the perpetually bemused Neo (as the Oracle says, “You’re cuter than I thought…not too bright though”) and Lawrence Fishburne, Carrie-Anne Moss and Joe Pantoliano are good, although Hugo Weaving as the sinister Agent Smith is probably the stand out. There are characters we can connect with and root for or against and remember.
Y'see, I think this is where I fall down with The Matrix. Agent Smith isn't sinister. The dialogue isn't quotable. When I took notice of it, it was stupid, not quotable cool. "There is no spoon." "I know kung-fu." Sorry, I just laughed. Reeves is perfect for the role, though. He's the best thing about the film, IMO.

I think I caught it at just about the perfect age (13) to find it the coolest thing ever!!!
This may be the truest thing you've ever said. I can completely understand loving The Matrix forever if you saw it when you were this age.

However, I know a couple of titles that actually portray girls under 16 years old in erotic ways (I found Strike Witches to be particularly offensive). Still over 90% of the manga/anime I know doesn't feature any of such content.
Again, I think this is mainly a cultural difference. That, and a misunderstanding of what paedophilia is or what paedophilc tendencies are. I know people who think if a woman wore a school uniform to 'spice things up' it'd mean that the partner was/had paedophilic leanings or could lead to such things. I'm not saying that's what anyone here thinks or has said, BTW. Just pointing out just how wrong and twisted some thinking can be on this subject, regardless of how well meaning or intended.

I am just awaiting the uproar when one of these movies everyone is absolutely sure will be in the top 10 doesn't make it. Maybe nobody actually voted for L.A. Confidential or Schindler's List and Satantango and Pump Up the Volume are there instead.
That'd be so cool. There's no chance of it happening.

Don't tease me
:laugh:

[jal90]

Wow, you love '90s movies. :)
Kind of... I seem to have a soft spot for most of the stuff I watch from this decade. My number of 5s is not as high as my ratings may imply (still high, 34), but that's also the merit of this top. It's going really well.

I'm like the antagonist version of Sexy Celebrity, you know.

By the way and off topic. Guaporense, I think you should give a chance to the rest of Princess Tutu. The series is really worthy, and my really means it can easily compete with Madoka Magica in its own way, and for me surpass it (my 4th favorite anime series ever). It never leaves the realm of shoujo demographic but is a very thoughtful and twisted deconstruction of the fairytale schemes.

[Brodinski]

Magnolia makes the top 10. Every spot it gains now is just bonus. MoFo's, you make me proud.

[Guaporense]

By the way and off topic. Guaporense, I think you should give a chance to the rest of Princess Tutu. The series is really worthy, and my really means it can easily compete with Madoka Magica in its own way, and for me surpass it (my 4th favorite anime series ever). It never leaves the realm of shoujo demographic but is a very thoughtful and twisted deconstruction of the fairytale schemes.

I would want you to PM your list of favorite anime series. Really curious about what you like. PMMM is obviously very different from Tutu so I guess they shouldn't be comparable.

[Harry Lime]

I was tempted to manipulate the stats for Magnolia more than even American Beauty. Mofos, you make me disappoint.

[jal90]

I would want you to PM your list of favorite anime series. Really curious about what you like. PMMM is obviously very different from Tutu so I guess they shouldn't be comparable.
Yeah, I mean, they are comparable as pertaining or being related to the same genre (magical girl) with very similar tropes. They are different in the way they develop their stuff, but not so much on the level of depth and introspection they both manage to bring.

I'll send my top in a few minutes :).

[Guaporense]

Wait. American cheese? Unless you mean unpasteurised. Otherwise, it tastes like soap. :sick:

I like that soap taste.

Isn't almost everything better than Family Guy, though?

I like Family Guy. I have watched around 200 episodes of it and I think some were very good. It's not great though.

Y'see, I think this is where I fall down with The Matrix. Agent Smith isn't sinister. The dialogue isn't quotable. When I took notice of it, it was stupid, not quotable cool. "There is no spoon." "I know kung-fu." Sorry, I just laughed. Reeves is perfect for the role, though. He's the best thing about the film, IMO.

What I like about the is the atmosphere and the world building combined with the well executed plot and for me the characters were very memorable even though their lines were not.

This may be the truest thing you've ever said. I can completely understand loving The Matrix forever if you saw it when you were this age.

I saw it when I was 10 as well. I don't know how it would hold up now.

Again, I think this is mainly a cultural difference. That, and a misunderstanding of what paedophilia is or what paedophilc tendencies are. I know people who think if a woman wore a school uniform to 'spice things up' it'd mean that the partner was/had paedophilic leanings or could lead to such things. I'm not saying that's what anyone here thinks or has said, BTW. Just pointing out just how wrong and twisted some thinking can be on this subject, regardless of how well meaning or intended.

However, the Japanese government is thinking about passing a law forbiding the sexual portrayal of any underage person or character, either drawn or photo. So no, that's not cultural as even the Japanese government thinks it's morally wrong to depict 12 year olds in sexual ways.

[OMEGA5]

I've seen 56 of those posted and assuming the top 10 stands as to what we think it is, I'll have seen 66/100. I own several from the list that I just haven't gotten to yet.

[Deadite]

Wow. Just Wow.

I was joking around with those anime posts. Poking fun at both anime stereotypes and Guap's pseudo-pedantic style. I really can't believe I even need to explain that.

Some of the responses, though... are unsettling.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Wow. Just Wow.

I was joking around with those anime posts. Poking fun at both anime stereotypes and Guap's pseudo-pedantic style. I really can't believe I even need to explain that.

Some of the responses, though... are unsettling.

But it's not unsettling to anyone when you constantly call people trolls and tell them to piss off and generally come off as very hostile and angry, manipulative and domineering? 'Cause that's how you sound to me when you bother me.

[Deadite]

But it's not unsettling to anyone when you constantly call people trolls and tell them to piss off and generally come off as very hostile and angry, manipulative and domineering? 'Cause that's how you sound to me when you bother me.

Is something bothering you, Sexy? Besides me, I mean. We usually find something to fight about but you don't usually go for the jugular this fast.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Is something bothering you, Sexy? Besides me, I mean. We usually find something to fight about but you don't usually go for the jugular this fast.

Nope.

[Deadite]

Alrighty, so you want me to defend myself against what you wrote now, maybe point out some stuff I don't like about you? I'm not in the mood, bro.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I can't believe you gave me a rep point for what I said about you, but if you recognize that I'm only trying to tell you something for what I think might be your benefit, I'm glad.

[jal90]

Wow. Just Wow.

I was joking around with those anime posts. Poking fun at both anime stereotypes and Guap's pseudo-pedantic style. I really can't believe I even need to explain that.

Some of the responses, though... are unsettling.
Wait what? How? When? Why? Where?

You happened to write a post and I happened to write an answer, is it really that unsettling? I'd say it is how a forum tends to work but whatever.

My apologies if you weren't referring to my post, though.

[Deadite]

Apology accepted.

I really don't want to single anyone out, anyway. I'm just wishing I'd never parodied Guap in the first place. Never imagined it would go like this... :facepalm:

[Deadite]

I can't believe you gave me a rep point for what I said about you, but if you recognize that I'm only trying to tell you something for what I think might be your benefit, I'm glad.

Just a peace offering, Sexy. I'm not responsible for how I "sounded" in your head.

[jal90]

Come on. You know it could have gone much worse :p.

[Deadite]

Come on. You know it could have gone much worse :p.

You're probably right. :)

[Deadite]

Anyways, I'm surprised myself to see The Matrix so high. Didn't make my list but I genuinely enjoy it. The "simulated reality where you can bend physics" idea allows for a lot of neat stuff. I even liked the sequels although they were inferior IMO.

Unforgiven was very good, more like an anti-western.

[HitchFan97]

Magnolia makes the top 10. Every spot it gains now is just bonus. MoFo's, you make me proud.

I couldn't agree more.

[HitchFan97]

I was tempted to manipulate the stats for Magnolia more than even American Beauty. Mofos, you make me disappoint.

Not a fan of Magnolia, Harry? :p

[Harry Lime]

Not a fan of Magnolia, Harry? :p
It's okay. Just picking on it like I do with American Beauty.

[Deadite]

Got Magnolia at 6th in my 25. :drevil:

[Sexy Celebrity]

MY FINAL GUESS AT THE TOP 10:

1. Pulp Fiction
2. Goodfellas
3. Fight Club
4. The Big Lebowski
5. Se7en
6. Schindler's List
7. Reservoir Dogs
8. The Shawshank Redemption
9. Magnolia
10. L.A. Confidential

[jiraffejustin]

I'll try guessing the rank as well I guess.

1. Pulp Fiction
2. Goodfellas
3. The Big Lebowski
4. Schindler's List
5. Fight Club
6. Reservoir Dogs
7. The Shawshank Redemption
8. Se7en
9. L.A. Confidential
10. Magnolia

[Camo]

I would have had Magnolia at 10-15 probably if i'd watched the whole thing in time. It's my own fault though for sending my list in too early when i knew i would regret it :p

[Deadite]

My final 10 predictions:

10. Blockbuster
9. Quirky Indie
8. Gong
7. Violent Indie
6. Quirky Violent indie
5. The Holocoaster
4. Stylish Thriller
3. Stylish Stoner Comedy
2. Stylish Quirky Violent Stoner Thriller
1. Magnolia

[mark f]

Which one's the Blockbuster?

[Harry Lime]

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[Harry Lime]

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10. Schindler's List
(Steven Spielberg, 1993)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108052/

246 POINTS

[Harry Lime]

100. Con Air
99. The Hole
98. Speed
97. Beauty and the Beast
96. Edward Scissorhands
95. Show Me Love
94. The Sixth Sense
93. Short Cuts
92. Sling Blade
91. Heavenly Creatures
90. Dark City
89. Scream
88. The Sweet Hereafter
87. Rushmore
86. The Fifth Element
85. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
84. The Player
83. Point Break
82. Batman Returns
81. Farewell My Concubine
80. Close-Up
79. Naked Lunch
78. Fallen Angels
77. JFK
76. A Brighter Summer Day
75. Happiness
74. Starship Troopers
73. Life Is Beautiful
72. Donnie Brasco
71. All About My Mother
70. Before Sunrise
69. La Haine
68. Army of Darkness
67. The Nightmare Before Christmas
66. Trois couleurs: Bleu
65. Whisper of the Heart
64. The Boondock Saints
63. Funny Games
62. As Good as It Gets
61. Twelve Monkeys
60. Babe
59. Dumb and Dumber
58. The Double Life of Veronique
57. The Lion King
56. Underground
55. Hoop Dreams
54. Trois couleurs: Rouge
53. Toy Story 2
52. Breaking the Waves
51. Hana-bi
50. Total Recall
49. Ed Wood
48. Dazed and Confused
47. True Romance
46. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
45. Clerks
44. Jackie Brown
43. Sonatine
42. The Straight Story
41. Barton Fink
40. Man Bites Dog
39. Naked
38. The Truman Show
37. Miller's Crossing
36. Casino
35. Dead Man
34. Jurassic Park
33. Trainspotting
32. Braveheart
31. Chungking Express
30. American History X
29. Toy Story
28. The Thin Red Line
27. Good Will Hunting
26. Being John Malkovich
25. Groundhog Day
24. American Beauty
23. Leon: The Professional
22. Princess Mononoke
21. Heat
20. The Usual Suspects
19. Terminator 2: Judgment Day
18. Saving Private Ryan
17. Forrest Gump
16. The Silence of the Lambs
15. Eyes Wide Shut
14. Fargo
13. Boogie Nights
12. Unforgiven
11. The Matrix
10. Schindler's List

[Sexy Celebrity]

:eek: I'm already wrong.

[The Gunslinger45]

My number 11! And the 10th film from my list.

[The Rodent]

Schindler's List near made my list. Excellent film.

[Miss Vicky]

Awesome. Fantastic film though not fun to watch. It's an emotionally grueling movie but one that I think everybody needs to experience at least once.

I voted for it at number 18.

[Camo]

Still not seen it. The amount of praise it gets round here, makes it sound like i'm missing out in alot though. I'm surprised L.A Confidential is above Schindler's List, that is if it's in the list at all of course.

[Deadite]

Still not seen it. The amount of praise it gets round here, makes it sound like i'm missing out in alot though. I'm surprised L.A Confidential is above Schindler's List, that is if it's in the list at all of course.

I wonder....

[cricket]

I have not yet seen Schindler's List.:facepalm:

[Frightened Inmate No. 2]

1) Pulp Fiction
2) Goodfellas
3) The Big Lebowski
4) Fight Club
5) The Shawshank Redemption
6) Magnolia
7). Reservoir Dogs
8) Se7en
9) L.A. Confidential

[mark f]

Oh well... at least my #1 made the top 10... barely. :)

[Miss Vicky]

I just hope my #1 makes it higher than people are predicting.

[Deadite]

I have not yet seen Schindler's List.:facepalm:

Don't be anti-semitic. :(

[donniedarko]

Schindlers List is an absolutely cinematic masterpiece. Just heartbreaking and chilling. Best film on the top ten, even if there's an upset. #2 on my list, the second most effective holocaust film.

[Miss Vicky]

the second most effective holocaust film.

What's the first?

[Deadite]

What's the first?

Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey. :(

[Guaporense]

Oh well... at least my #1 made the top 10... barely. :)

It's also my #1 English film. :D I agree that it also performed rather badly, I was expecting it to be in the top 5.

[mark f]

What's the first?
It's in his Favorite Movies.

[The Gunslinger45]

It's in his Favorite Films.

The Pianist

[Guaporense]

What's the first?

The Pianist.

I love both but I think that Schindler's List is slightly better it's one of my top 5 favorite war films.

[Miss Vicky]

Ah. Haven't seen The Pianist and really didn't know anything about it other than that it stars Adrien Brody, who I generally dislike and tend to avoid.

[Deadite]

There's hope for you yet, Guappy boy.

[stevo3001]

What's the first?

Shoah




Schindler's List is a strong film, a worthy attempt to deal with such an immense and grave subject. Easily Spielberg's most adult and successfully complex film, if some way short of his best.

[Guaporense]

Shoah

I need to watch that one.

Schindler's List is a strong film, a worthy attempt to deal with such an immense and grave subject. Easily Spielberg's most adult and successfully complex film, if some way short of his best.

What's your favorite Spielberg film?

[HitchFan97]

Schindler's List is a great movie, I think it was somewhere in the middle of my list. I'm surprised it's not higher.

[Harry Lime]

Shoah
I was thinking the same thing.

[Harry Lime]

What's your favorite Spielberg film?
Hook.

[Mmmm Donuts]

Ah. Haven't seen The Pianist and really didn't know anything about it other than that it stars Adrien Brody, who I generally dislike and tend to avoid.

He's really good in it, as is the movie. I recommend it if you're feeling like an emotional film some day.

[stevo3001]

What's your favorite Spielberg film?

Hoo... oh Harry Lime already said that. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull then.



Actually my favourite would be either Jaws or ET. I love Duel too, but that is not really among his very best.

[OMEGA5]

Well if you are going to watch Shoah, set aside 10 hours and prepare to be emotionally drained. Plan something positive to do the next day. It's heavy.

[HandyApe]

Schindler's List - 4

Very good movie! It's not my favourite film about the Holocaust (I like some of the documentary films more), but it's my favourite dramatization of the Holocaust.

[Guaporense]

Well if you are going to watch Shoah, set aside 10 hours and prepare to be emotionally drained. Plan something positive to do the next day. It's heavy.

Don't worry, I have watched some very heavy stuff already so I have developed a resistance to tearjerkers. Its probable that I will think that Shoah is rather melodramatic or maybe it may crack my top 20.

[Camo]

Don't worry, I have watched some very heavy stuff already so I have developed a resistance to tearjerkers. Its probable that I will think that Shoah is rather melodramatic or maybe it may crack my top 20.

If i remember correctly, you said the saddest film you have seen is Grave of The Fireflies? Do you honestly think that and 19 other films will be sadder than the most graphic (from what i've heard) account of the Holocaust?

[Mr.Sparkle]

Tis a shame. Fargo should have been in the top ten. The Pianist is indeed a better film than Schindler's List but that is in another decade.

It's sad to see The Matrix so high and Dark City significantly lower. I believe DC to be the better film of the two, but since one is "flashier" than the other it gets more recognition.

[mark f]

No more hypotheticals please - neither in questions nor answers. :)

[Mr.Sparkle]

If i remember correctly, you said the saddest film you have seen is Grave of The Fireflies? Do you honestly think that and 19 other films will be sadder than the most graphic (from what i've heard) account of the Holocaust?

Grave of the Fireflies didn't make me sad, surprisingly. I think because I went in with the expectations of it being incredibly depressing, since that is all I've heard. Sure it's a sad story, but not to the level of The Pianist where he walks down the alley while it rains the ashes of his dead family and friends. Heartbreaking.

[Guaporense]

If i remember correctly, you said the saddest film you have seen is Grave of The Fireflies?

No, the saddest film I ever seem is this:

http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/6/42265.jpg

I was stunned as if hit by a train for over a week. Seriously. While GofT is tied in the second place with Ikiru, Bicycle Thieves and Tokyo Story.

I know you didn't get GofT but art works that way. Let's see if I can get Shoah.

Do you honestly think that and 19 other films will be sadder than the most graphic (from what i've heard) account of the Holocaust?

Well, I am not particularly impressed by the view of simple piles of dead bodies. What moves me is realistic character development combined with a pure sense of humanism. Just stating: millions died here, etc, isn't that impressive from my point of view.

Grave of the Fireflies didn't make me sad, surprisingly. I think because I went in with the expectations of it being incredibly depressing, since that is all I've heard. Sure it's a sad story, but not to the level of The Pianist where he walks down the alley while it rains the ashes of his dead family and friends. Heartbreaking.

Well, I consider both sad but GofT is truly powerful. Like a shot in the arm.

[mark f]

Quiet, guapo.

[The Rodent]

^ What is it?

[Guaporense]

^ What is it?

PMMM the movie parts 1 & 2

[The Rodent]

Ah, the one with the Pokémon.

[Guaporense]

Exactly!

[stevo3001]

Something like Shoah is completely different from a scripted movie. It brings you to a tragedy on an unthinkable scale in the realest and most immediate way possible outside talking to survivors or perhaps visiting the camps. It isn't a 'tearjerker'- a tearjerker is a movie designed to make you sad. Shoah is designed to tell you, as fearlessly and thoroughly as it can, what happened. It is a document of the evil humanity can display, of the murder of millions of innocents. There isn't a trace of added sentimentality or a moment when any attempt to wring tears is detectable; there is no need and it would not be appropriate. It is a complex and challenging film, masterfully crafted, but most intelligent and valuable for letting those who were there tell their stories.

It feels utterly wrong to put Shoah on some kind of sadness ranking against anything at all fictionalised or manipulated. I think that goes for any documentary of a real tragedy that does justice to its subject.

I don't know if cinema, or perhaps any art, can truly convey the enormity of the horror of the holocaust. Schindler's List is a very fine attempt, but even it seems just a little cheapening and trivialising at times- perhaps not because of any correctable flaw, just the possible impossibility of capturing what the holocaust was. The Pianist was a lesser attempt, I never felt it got close. Another film ranked in this 100, Life is Beautiful, was just an insulting disaster that shouldn't have been made and I feel that way about a lot of others. I suppose we should still try though.

[Deadite]

It's just a cartoon, Guap. The Holocaust was real.

[Mmmm Donuts]

Another film ranked in this 100, Life is Beautiful, was just an insulting disaster that shouldn't have been made and I feel that way about a lot of others. I suppose we should still try though.

Sorry, I disagree completely on that. To me, showing the story of a single family during the Holocaust is more powerful than showing images of hundreds of nameless victims, at least in movie terms. This is because no human brain could ever comprehend the number of victims during the Holocaust. When you develop a few characters so intensely, the audience grows with them, and forms a sort of relationship with them. It makes the loss of those characters so much more powerful, and forces an emotional response out of us. That's what Life is Beautiful did so well. Of course, The Pianist and Schindler's List had similar effects.

[Gabrielle947]

I had Schindler's List at #8,it's a 5 film for me. :))

[Guaporense]

It feels utterly wrong to put Shoah on some kind of sadness ranking against anything at all fictionalised or manipulated. I think that goes for any documentary of a real tragedy that does justice to its subject.

Yeah, it doesn't feel right for the victims of the holocaust to say that a documentary about their suffering was less or more sad than some fictional story. Among documentaries the saddest I watched was this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e8/Anvil_ver2.jpg/220px-Anvil_ver2.jpg

I think that Shoah may be more serious than that. :D Well, in that documentary one of the band members' dad actually was a holocaust survivor and he talks about it so the two documentaries are not that different. A real tragic story of a second rate metal band.

I don't know if cinema, or perhaps any art, can truly convey the enormity of the horror of the holocaust.

But a documentary can?

[Guaporense]

Sorry, I disagree completely on that. To me, showing the story of a single family during the Holocaust is more powerful than showing images of hundreds of nameless victims, at least in movie terms. This is because no human brain could ever comprehend the number of victims during the Holocaust. When you develop a few characters so intensely, the audience grows with them, and forms a sort of relationship with them. It makes the loss of those characters so much more powerful, and forces an emotional response out of us. That's what Life is Beautiful did so well. Of course, The Pianist and Schindler's List had similar effects.

Indeed. We feel about the people we "know". We don't feel really sad about the thousands of people that die every day in Africa from AIDS or war but we can feel really sad if someone close to us dies. While the real fact is that the human suffering over all of Africa is certainly greater than the suffering of a single person we care about those we know.

Sadness is also psychological so something can make you sad without even making any sense in real world terms. Such as a musical composition.

Anyway, I will watch Shoah and see how good it is. I expect it to be at least a 4 movie and the saddest documentary I ever watched. Let's see if it cracks my set of saddest movies (many which involve WW2).

I haven't watched Life is Beautiful, now I am interested.

[Mr Minio]

Holocaust wasn't the only atrocity of twentieth century. Stalin's cleansings, Tutsi and Hutu conflict, Nanking rape and Mao Tse Dong's politics to only name a few and there are movies about them, both documentaries and feature films, which is good, because we have to remember about the victims, but personally I prefer documentaries, because feature movies tend to add fictional characters and change the story, even if only a bit.

[OMEGA5]

Shoah is NOT a movie. It's a living record. It's not graphic in it's imagery. It's all done with interviews. It's emotional in watching these people relive it all in their faces. A very different emotional connection than just showing the graphic images we have all seen.

[Deadite]

And Magical Princess Creampuff's Adventures is saddest of all... :facepalm:

[honeykid]

It's just a cartoon, Guap. The Holocaust was real.
Yes, but that doesn't mean someone will feel it more. You can recognise how tragic and awful something is without feeling it or without feeling it in the way might with something else or even the same thing presented in the different way.

We feel about the people we "know". We don't feel really sad about the thousands of people that die every day in Africa from AIDS or war but we can feel really sad if someone close to us dies. While the real fact is that the human suffering over all of Africa is certainly greater than the suffering of a single person we care about those we know.

Sadness is also psychological so something can make you sad without even making any sense in real world terms. Such as a musical composition.
:up:

And Magical Princess Creampuff's Adventures is saddest of all... :facepalm:
Well, the saddest he's seen. In time, that'll almost certainly change simply because he will. It's the same for all of us.

[Cobpyth]

100. Con Air - Not seen
99. Dong aka The Hole - Not seen
98. Speed - 3
97. Beauty and the Beast - 3.5
96. Edward Scissorhands - 4
95. F#cking Amal aka Show Me Love - Not Seen
94. The Sixth Sense - 4
93. Short Cuts - 4.5 (MY LIST)
92. Sling Blade - Not Seen
91. Heavenly Creatures - Not Seen
90. Dark City - Not Seen
89. Scream - 3.5
88. The Sweet Hereafter - Not Seen
87. Rushmore - 3.5
86. The Fifth Element - 3.5+
85. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Not Seen
84. The Player - 5 (MY LIST)
83. Point Break - Not Seen
82. Batman Returns - 3
81. Farewell My Concubine - 4
80. Nema-ye Nazdik aka Close-Up - Not Seen
79. Naked Lunch - Not Seen
78. Duo luo tian shi aka Fallen Angels - 4+
77. JFK - Not Seen
76. A Brighter Summer Day - Not Seen
75. Happiness - 3.5
74. Starship Troopers - Not Seen
73. Life Is Beautiful - Not Seen
72. Donnie Brasco - Not Seen
71. All About My Mother - 3.5(+)
70. Before Sunrise - 3.5(+)
69. La Haine - Not Seen
68. Army of Darkness - Not Seen
67. The Nightmare Before Christmas - 3.5(+)
66. Trois couleurs: Bleu - Not Seen
65. Whisper of the Heart - Not Seen – 3.5(+)
64. The Boondock Saints - Not Seen
63. Funny Games - Not Seen
62. As Good as It Gets - 3.5(-)
61. Twelve Monkeys - 4+ (MY LIST)
60. Babe - Not Seen
59. Dumb and Dumber - Not Seen
58. The Double Life of Veronique - Not Seen
57. The Lion King - 4(+)
56. Underground - Not Seen
55. Hoop Dreams - Not Seen
54. Trois couleurs: Rouge - Not Seen
53. Toy Story 2 - 4
52. Breaking the Waves - Not Seen
51. Hana-Bi - Not Seen
50. Total Recall - Not Seen
49. Ed Wood - 5 (MY LIST)
48. Dazed and Confused - 3.5(-)
47. True Romance - 3.5
46. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - 3.5
45. Clerks - Not Seen
44. Jackie Brown - 4
43. Sonatine - Not Seen
42. The Straight Story - Not Seen
41. Barton Fink - 4.5 (MY LIST)
40. Man Bites Dog - Not Seen
39. Naked - Not Seen
38. The Truman Show - 3.5(+)
37. Miller's Crossing - 4.5(-) (MY LIST)
36. Casino - 4.5 (MY LIST)
35. Dead Man - Not Seen
34. Jurassic Park - 3.5
33. Trainspotting - Not Seen
32. Braveheart - Not Seen
31. Chungking Express - 4+
30. American History X - 3.5(+)
29. Toy Story - 3.5
28. The Thin Red Line - Not Seen
27. Good Will Hunting - 3.5
26. Being John Malkovich - 4(+)
25. Groundhog Day - 3.5+
24. American Beauty - 4.5 (MY LIST)
23. Léon: The Professional - 4.5 (MY LIST)
22. Princess Mononoke - 3.5+
21. Heat - 4-
20. The Usual Suspects - 4.5- (MY LIST)
19. Terminator 2: Judgment Day - 3.5
18. Saving Private Ryan - Not Seen
17. Forrest Gump - 3.5
16. The Silence of the Lambs - 4(+)
15. Eyes Wide Shut - 4.5 (MY LIST)
14. Fargo - 5 (MY LIST)
13. Boogie Nights - 5 (MY LIST)
12. Unforgiven - 4.5 (MY LIST)
11. The Matrix - 4(+)
10. Schindler's List - 4.5(+) (MY LIST)

Unforgiven is an amazingly well made western. It's more melancholic than every western I've ever seen and Eastwood is PERFECT in this film, playing a retired bounty hunter who both despises and in some strange kind of way still longs for his own past as a ruthless killer.
It's also one of the deepest revenge pictures I've ever seen. Normally the theme of revenge is quite shallow and merely a vehicle for an action film, but here it is portrayed in a realistic and very convincing way. GREAT film! It was on my list.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5q5YP9kBuI


The Matrix is entertaining and very awesome to look at. The first time I saw it, I was MINDBLOWN by its action sequences and of course its original premise (for that time). I can understand the criticism that it indeed leans more towards the action aspect of it all than to the story, but I really didn't care that much, as it was very cool to look at. It's not a favorite anymore and it didn't make my list, but it's still a hell of a movie!


Well. What can I say more about Schindler's List that hasn't already been said? It's an amazing dramatization of the holocaust by Steven Spielberg. He made it into an emotional rollercoaster and didn't shy away from showing the immense horror of it all. Film-wise it is also one of the most perfect films I've seen. Unbelievable. It shows that Spielberg really deserves all the credit he gets for his work. Besides being the king of good blockbusters, he also knows how to put together a film in a way that very few directors can.
The only reason why I don't give this film a maximum rating is because I felt that he should have kept the real darkness from the holocaust in his main story, because in reality, "Schindler's list" was a much more obscure 'event' than as it is depicted in this film. A lot of Jews had to buy themselves on the list for instance (not towards Schindler, but towards the one who was in control of typing up the list, etc. In the film it is all a little more 'pure' than it was in reality.
I do get, though, that this film is about the 'one lit candle' in the middle of one of the most gruesome periods in modern human history, and I respect and understand Spielberg's affection towards that small piece of hope.
Definitely a masterpiece and a very strong film. It made my list.

I also consider this one of the best cinematic moments of the '90s (together with the later revelation of the girl's faith):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1VL-y9JHuI

[Mmmm Donuts]

I haven't watched Life is Beautiful, now I am interested.

I'd recommend it. It's actually pretty comedic throughout, so it's not a totally depressing movie. But it definitely gets nightmarish through to the end, as you might expect.

[Brodinski]

Magnolia's towering presence is omnipresent now, fending off magnificent films such as Unforgiven, Schindler's List, Silence of the Lambs and Heat.

T.J. Mackey would approve of the MoFo.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnwghdjwwa1qb44v7o1_500.gif

[mark f]

You guys and your Kool-Aid. :)

[Deadite]

Yes, but that doesn't mean someone will feel it more. You can recognise how tragic and awful something is without feeling it or without feeling it in the way might with something else or even the same thing presented in the different way.


:up:


Well, the saddest he's seen. In time, that'll almost certainly change simply because he will. It's the same for all of us.

http://i2.listal.com/image/4925/600full-never-been-kissed-poster.jpg

:(

[honeykid]

Um... OK. I like the Drewness of it, though.

[Guaporense]

Yes, but that doesn't mean someone will feel it more. You can recognise how tragic and awful something is without feeling it or without feeling it in the way might with something else or even the same thing presented in the different way.

Indeed. A novel can make you sad even though it's only ink on paper.

:up:

The music analogy I have taken over the dialogue of Tarkovsky's Stalker. The writer observed that music has absolutely no relation with anything real but it can move us deeply.

Well, the saddest he's seen. In time, that'll almost certainly change simply because he will. It's the same for all of us.

Not only because I will change but also because I will watch other stuff and someday, something will top it.

My ranking of saddest films is partially as follows:

1 - PMMM the movie parts 1 & 2
2 - GofT, Bicycle Thieves, Tokyo Story, Ikiru
3 - The Elephant Man, Schindler's List, Late Spring
4 - Paths of Glory, The Pianist, Plague Dogs

I should also note that I read on reviews and several different people commented in the internet that they never ever cried in any other work of fiction before they watched PMMM. It's indeed very powerful stuff since it is fundamentally a film about suicidal depression and clinging on the last possibilities for hope amidst a world of despair. It's a true tragedy film that tortures psychologically innocent little girls for nearly 4 hours and is an astonishingly cruel work of fiction. It's similar to GofT in intensity but instead of lasting 90 minutes it last 240 minutes.

While it's possible that I may find Shoah to be even sadder, I still think PMMM would remain forever one of the saddest works of fiction I ever experienced.

[Guaporense]

And Magical Princess Creampuff's Adventures is saddest of all... :facepalm:

I know you are trolling but I feel badass by saying that a movie on the same genre as Cardcaptor Sakura is the saddest thing I ever watched. :D It's like Hamlet but with more pink!

Saying that an holocaust movie is the saddest is almost a boring cliche.

[Guaporense]

I'd recommend it. It's actually pretty comedic throughout, so it's not a totally depressing movie. But it definitely gets nightmarish through to the end, as you might expect.

Both Shoah and Life is Beautiful are on my watchlist.

[Deadite]

I should also note that I read on reviews and several different people commented in the internet that they never ever cried in any other work of fiction before they watched PMMM. It's indeed very powerful stuff since it is fundamentally a film about suicidal depression and clinging on the last possibilities for hope amidst a world of despair. It's a true tragedy film that tortures psychologically innocent little girls for nearly 4 hours and is an astonishingly cruel work of fiction. It's similar to GofT in intensity but instead of lasting 90 minutes it last 240 minutes.

Did the witches get her? :(

[Deadite]

I know you are trolling but I feel badass by saying that a movie on the same genre as Cardcaptor Sakura is the saddest thing I ever watched. :D It's like Hamlet but with more pink!

Saying that an holocaust movie is the saddest is almost a boring cliche.

Nah, I was so devastated by Trigun that I retreated into my bedroom closet for four months, nibbling crackers and peeing into a bottle.

[Guaporense]

Nah, I was so devastated by Trigun that I retreated into my bedroom closet for four months, nibbling crackers and peeing into a bottle.

Man, you are so badass!

I am actually losing my sensibility to movies since I have watched so many powerful films over the past 30 months that films that impacted me greatly now appear to be quite weak. It's like when you use cocaine and it's effects become weaker with time. That applies to any type of emotion: happiness, fear, sadness. For instance, I am quite sensitive to horror films but when I watched Videodrome a few weeks ago, one of the best horror films ever made, I didn't have a powerful reaction as I would have a few years ago.

[Deadite]

This "badass" concept.... explain it to us.

[Yoda]

Let's not derail the countdown too much, yeah? :)

[Deadite]

I am actually losing my sensibility to movies

I can believe that.

you use cocaine

How the F did you know? :eek:

[Deadite]

Let's not derail the countdown too much, yeah? :)

You're right, sorry.

Number 1 movie prediction: The Wedding Singer. Now THAT's 90's!

[Cobpyth]

As we are practically certain of the last 9 entries of the list, it is maybe time to point out my top 3 favorite '90s films that didn't make it.

For me:


1. Bullets Over Broadway (1994)

http://viapozzo6.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/pallottole-su-broadway.jpg?w=500&h=267

One of Allen's funniest, most wicked and interesting films! It's also beautifully filmed and it works very well as a period piece too. I didn't really expect that it would make it, but it certainly made my list.


2. Out of Sight (1998)

http://c2.quickcachr.fotos.sapo.pt/i/Bc91373ec/15069457_91zwS.png

I actually expected this to make it in the beginning, but it seems that it isn't that popular around these parts. For me, it's still one of the most entertaining and stylishly made crime/romance films I've ever seen. Despite all the style, it also had a very sweet core, which I really appreciated personally.


3. Carlito's Way (1993)

http://taconline.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Atrapadoporsupasado_FichaCine.jpg

This is probably the best and most complete film Brian DePalma ever made for me, besides perhaps Blow Out. It's stylish, it's full of awesomeness, but opposed to a lot of De Palma's other films I also thought it had a certain gravitas.
Yes, it is about a gangster who tries to retire, but has to do that one last job, and it sounds very cliché, but I think this film tells it extremely well. Sean Penn's performance in this is also AWESOME! Great film.

[Sane]

Now that you mention it I'm surprised Carlito's Way didn't make it. Three I expected to see (but didn't vote for) would be In The Name of the Father, Hearts of Darkness and Night on Earth.

My favourites that didn't make it - Satantango (would have been number 10 on my list if seen in time), The Road Home (would have been at 14) and A Taste of Cherry (would have been at 18). Wish I had seen those movies in time but I think only Satantango may have made it with my votes.

[Deadite]

No Thelma OR Louise, no Crying Game, no Leaving Las Vegas, no Tombstone!!

[Skepsis93]

Personally I'm most disappointed about Pleasantville.

[JayDee]

Personally I'm most disappointed about Pleasantville.

Was just about to mention that. :yup:

[The Gunslinger45]

No Last of the Mohicans or The Hunt for Red October either.

[The Rodent]

I just can't believe The Next Karate Kid won't make it either.

[cricket]

My top 3 pics that won't make it-

Boys Don't Cry: I thought it had a fair chance but I wasn't confident. I don't believe there's any way that it's not one of the 100 best movies of the decade.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3b/Boys_Don%27t_Cry_movie.jpg

Strange Days: It's a personal favorite. I think it's a brilliant film but I never thought it had a chance of making the list. I don't think many people have seen it.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0c/Strangedays.jpeg

Carlito's Way: I thought it had about a 50% chance, and the best chance of these 3. I gave up hope when Donnie Brasco showed up. I also voted for Brasco but had Carlito's Way a little higher. It just seems that Donnie Brascoe is a little more popular.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/24/Carlito%27s_Way.jpg

It didn't quite make my list, but I'm also perplexed that Thelma and Louise didn't make it.*

Leaving Las Vegas is another that I voted for that I thought had a pretty decent chance.

[syj]

I'm really surprised that Raise the Red Lantern (#3 on my list) didn't make the list at all. It's one of my favorite films and I thought it was really highly regarded, but it looks like I'm in the minority. It has similar themes to There Will Be Blood, except it's Chinese wives instead of American oilmen.

Also, Apollo 13! Way better mid-90s Tom Hanks vehicle than Forrest Gump. And Gettsyburg had the best assortment of facial hair in any movie ever, I would say.

[JayDee]

Actually I just realised the film I'm really stunned didn't make it - South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut. How did that not make it? What the f*ck is wrong with you people?!!!

[jiraffejustin]

I wish the Blair Witch Project would have made it. :(

[Guaporense]

As we are practically certain of the last 9 entries of the list, it is maybe time to point out my top 3 favorite '90s films that didn't make it.

Some favorites that didn't make it:

Only Yesterday
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/46/OYpost.jpg/220px-OYpost.jpg

Porco Rosso
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fc/Porco_Rosso_%28Movie_Poster%29.jpg/220px-Porco_Rosso_%28Movie_Poster%29.jpg

Gattaca
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bb/Gataca_Movie_Poster_B.jpg/215px-Gataca_Movie_Poster_B.jpg

Dreams
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c6/Kurosawasdreams.jpg/220px-Kurosawasdreams.jpg

Rhapsody in August
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/84/RHAPSODY_IN_AUGUST.JPG/220px-RHAPSODY_IN_AUGUST.JPG

Madadayo
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/44/MADADAYO.JPG/220px-MADADAYO.JPG

Central Station
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/12/Central-do-brasil-poster04.jpg/220px-Central-do-brasil-poster04.jpg

Ghost in the Shell
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d1/Ghost_in_the_Shell.jpg/230px-Ghost_in_the_Shell.jpg

Sátántangó
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/18/S%C3%A1t%C3%A1ntang%C3%B3_dvd_cover.jpg/220px-S%C3%A1t%C3%A1ntang%C3%B3_dvd_cover.jpg

The End of Evangelion
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9e/Eoeposter.JPG/220px-Eoeposter.JPG

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'm hoping there's a shocker and Pulp Fiction isn't #1.

But it probably will be because most things I've hoped for and predicted for in this thread have not come true.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Let's not derail the countdown too much, yeah? :)

No.

[Guaporense]

No.

Well, my talk of "saddest movie" was directly related to Schindler's List, so it wasn't a very sharp derailing.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I have no idea what the discussion was - I was just telling Yoda "No!"

[The Gunslinger45]

I wish the Blair Witch Project would have made it. :(

:furiousdevil:

[Sexy Celebrity]

A fascinating science news article appeared today. Stephen Hawking tried to explain the reason why so many good '90s movies were missing from this list. He says it's because the 1990's fell into a black hole.

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=11111&stc=1&d=1377564674

[honeykid]

I'm really surprised that Raise the Red Lantern (#3 on my list) didn't make the list at all. It's one of my favorite films and I thought it was really highly regarded, but it looks like I'm in the minority. It has similar themes to There Will Be Blood, except it's Chinese wives instead of American oilmen.
Well regarded and well loved aren't the same thing and, I think, most people voted for what they loved. I'd hope they did, anyway. Also, while the themes might be similar, there's a massive difference between Raise The Red Lantern and There Will Be Blood. Firstly, it's actually good and, secondly, it's not boring.

I wish the Blair Witch Project would have made it. :(
Did you vote for it? I know it gets a lot of hate, but I really liked it and I'm one of the very few who liked the sequel, too.

A fascinating science news article appeared today. Stephen Hawking tried to explain the reason why so many good '90s movies were missing from this list. He says it's because the 1990's fell into a black hole.
It's not a black hole, it's just that the 90's were so great a top 100 can't do it justice.

[Harry Lime]

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8776/wxm0.jpg

9. Magnolia
(Paul Thomas Anderson, 1999)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0175880/

254 POINTS

[Sexy Celebrity]

Don't debate with Stephen Hawking, Honeykid. You'll always lose. You'll walk, but you'll lose.

[Harry Lime]

100. Con Air
99. The Hole
98. Speed
97. Beauty and the Beast
96. Edward Scissorhands
95. Show Me Love
94. The Sixth Sense
93. Short Cuts
92. Sling Blade
91. Heavenly Creatures
90. Dark City
89. Scream
88. The Sweet Hereafter
87. Rushmore
86. The Fifth Element
85. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
84. The Player
83. Point Break
82. Batman Returns
81. Farewell My Concubine
80. Close-Up
79. Naked Lunch
78. Fallen Angels
77. JFK
76. A Brighter Summer Day
75. Happiness
74. Starship Troopers
73. Life Is Beautiful
72. Donnie Brasco
71. All About My Mother
70. Before Sunrise
69. La Haine
68. Army of Darkness
67. The Nightmare Before Christmas
66. Trois couleurs: Bleu
65. Whisper of the Heart
64. The Boondock Saints
63. Funny Games
62. As Good as It Gets
61. Twelve Monkeys
60. Babe
59. Dumb and Dumber
58. The Double Life of Veronique
57. The Lion King
56. Underground
55. Hoop Dreams
54. Trois couleurs: Rouge
53. Toy Story 2
52. Breaking the Waves
51. Hana-bi
50. Total Recall
49. Ed Wood
48. Dazed and Confused
47. True Romance
46. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
45. Clerks
44. Jackie Brown
43. Sonatine
42. The Straight Story
41. Barton Fink
40. Man Bites Dog
39. Naked
38. The Truman Show
37. Miller's Crossing
36. Casino
35. Dead Man
34. Jurassic Park
33. Trainspotting
32. Braveheart
31. Chungking Express
30. American History X
29. Toy Story
28. The Thin Red Line
27. Good Will Hunting
26. Being John Malkovich
25. Groundhog Day
24. American Beauty
23. Leon: The Professional
22. Princess Mononoke
21. Heat
20. The Usual Suspects
19. Terminator 2: Judgment Day
18. Saving Private Ryan
17. Forrest Gump
16. The Silence of the Lambs
15. Eyes Wide Shut
14. Fargo
13. Boogie Nights
12. Unforgiven
11. The Matrix
10. Schindler's List
9. Magnolia

[Miss Vicky]

Haven't seen Magnolia and am not a Paul Thomas Anderson fan. Doubtful that I'd like it.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I haven't seen Magnolia, but one day I was sitting around waiting for time to pass and I had a copy of the script on me for some reason, so I read it. It was good but I didn't like the ending.

[HandyApe]

Magnolia - 4.5

One of my favorites from the '90s and my favourite Paul Thomas Anderson film!

[Cobpyth]

9. Magnolia - 5 (MY LIST)

Magnolia is a BRILLIANT ensemble piece with many intense scenes and contains some kind of odd, overarching force that watches over its characters. It's a movie full of emotions and it's executed in such an amazing way by Paul Thomas Anderson that it really gives me a "wauw"-feeling. It's all very overwhelming and yet extremely engaging. A very special film that deserves this very special place in the top 10!

[cricket]

I saw Magnolia once and was very annoyed and aggravated by it; I thought it was a mess. After loving Boogie Nights, this movie turned me off of the director. But after finally seeing There Will be Blood, and loving it, I have a great interest in giving Magnolia another shot. With all the praise it gets, I can't help but think maybe I was just having a bad day. I will watch it again with an open mind.

[Yoda]

I had Magnolia 12th, so I'm happy with it in this general range.

I've said something to this effect before, but it makes no sense that I love Magnolia. On paper it's exactly the kind of film I'd usually hate. It's melodramatic, long, kind of opaque, and it has a bizarre ending.

But it's just made with such art and it's so well acted, and the music is used so tremendously that I just can't help myself. And it doesn't feel long, which always impresses me. And the brilliance of that ending is that while it won't work for some, for some people it just clicks. And for me it clicks.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HdJ4z3efqFo/T_-GKwud59I/AAAAAAAAFJI/eScjNbyyOxo/s640/Philip+Baker+Hall+magnolia.png

The whole movie is like that, really. You might not like it, but if you do, there's a chance you'll adore it. If anyone reading this doesn't like Anderson, I think I would suggest trying Magnolia anyway, because it's a lot sweeter and deeper than his more recent films about disturbed men. I can't say you'll like it, because it doesn't make any sense that I do, but there's so much on display here that I think it's worth risking it, just in case you're one of the ones who loves it. It is truly unique.

[linespalsy]

Magnolia... oh well, at least Ghost in the Shell isn't going to make it.

[Guaporense]

Magnolia 4

Very good movie, drama was a little forced, though. Still worth watching but not a masterpiece, it's one of Tom Cruise's best performances. Boogie Nights and There Will Be Blood were better IMO.

Magnolia... oh well, at least Ghost in the Shell isn't going to make it.

I knew that from the 60th place downwards.

[donniedarko]

Haven't seen Magnolia yet, it's indeed very popular here though

[The Rodent]

Boggie Nights and There Will Be Blood were better IMO.


Boggie Nights? Is that film starring Kramy Kram?

[Deadite]

Magnolia at 9th place?! Too low!! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!

[Guaporense]

Boggie Nights? Is that film starring Kramy Kram?

English, you sucker!

[Deadite]

I think around twenty of mine will show by the end.

[Yoda]

I've got six left, and I'm pretty sure they'll all appear (and I know the other two) which means all 25 of mine will make it on here (though three cut it close by being in the 90s).

[jiraffejustin]

Did you vote for it? I know it gets a lot of hate, but I really liked it and I'm one of the very few who liked the sequel, too.


I voted for it somewhere in my top twenty I think. I've never seen the sequel.

[weeman]

I still haven't seen Magnolia, and I probably should have by now. I'll get round to it.

Schindler's List is harrowing and upsetting as anything. Although that being said, I almost shed a tear in the middle of Kung Fu Panda 2. God I felt bad for Po.

The Matrix is a great film ruined by its third act. What beings as a severely interesting dystopian tale, morphs into a generic action picture with added Keanu Reaves. He is one of many actors I name "Mr. Charisma" :(

[HitchFan97]

As most of you already know, Magnolia was #1 on my list. In fact, it's probably my favorite film of the last quarter century. For me, it's the ultimate distillation of Anderson's career-long theme of generational conflict, but it goes much deeper - through fantastic performances, writing, direction, and music, the movie transcends mere drama to become an epic tapestry of interconnected lives and the search for healing. And like Yoda said, it never feels like three hours.

#9? I was expecting something closer to #19. Good job, MoFos.

[rauldc14]

Three oh so 90s films that should have made the cut:
Independence Day
The Last of the Mohicans
Leaving Las Vegas

[Sexy Celebrity]

Just stick a movie (an actual '90s movie, that is) you feel should have made the list into one of these empty spaces. Everything listed here -- I'm okay with it being on here. To some degree. They pass my '90s test. But the films removed don't.

100. Con Air
99.
98. Speed
97. Beauty and the Beast
96. Edward Scissorhands
95.
94. The Sixth Sense
93. Short Cuts
92. Sling Blade
91. Heavenly Creatures
90. Dark City
89. Scream
88.
87. Rushmore
86. The Fifth Element
85. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
84. The Player
83. Point Break
82. Batman Returns
81.
80.
79.
78.
77. JFK
76.
75. Happiness
74. Starship Troopers
73. Life Is Beautiful
72. Donnie Brasco
71.
70. Before Sunrise
69. La Haine
68. Army of Darkness
67. The Nightmare Before Christmas
66.
65.
64. The Boondock Saints
63.
62. As Good as It Gets
61. Twelve Monkeys
60. Babe
59. Dumb and Dumber
58.
57. The Lion King
56.
55. Hoop Dreams
54.
53. Toy Story 2
52.
51.
50. Total Recall
49. Ed Wood
48. Dazed and Confused
47. True Romance
46. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
45. Clerks
44. Jackie Brown
43.
42.
41. Barton Fink
40.
39.
38. The Truman Show
37.
36. Casino
35.
34. Jurassic Park
33. Trainspotting
32. Braveheart
31. Chungking Express
30. American History X
29. Toy Story
28. The Thin Red Line
27. Good Will Hunting
26. Being John Malkovich
25. Groundhog Day
24. American Beauty
23. Leon: The Professional
22.
21. Heat
20. The Usual Suspects
19. Terminator 2: Judgment Day
18. Saving Private Ryan
17. Forrest Gump
16. The Silence of the Lambs
15. Eyes Wide Shut
14. Fargo
13. Boogie Nights
12. Unforgiven
11. The Matrix
10. Schindler's List
9. Magnolia

[mark f]

You took out one of mine!

[Sexy Celebrity]

Don't take it personal.

[Miss Vicky]

Mine are all there. :)

[Guaporense]

Don't take it personal.

I would guess the 1980's. I plan to nominate nearly 20 non-English movies.

[Miss Vicky]

^wtf

[Deadite]

All those cartoons drove him mad.

[Deadite]

Just stick a movie (an actual '90s movie, that is) you feel should have made the list into one of these empty spaces. Everything listed here -- I'm okay with it being on here. To some degree. They pass my '90s test. But the films removed don't.

*puts back all the movies SC removed*

[Skepsis93]

I had Magnolia at #3 but having just finished rewatching it, I have to say that it's about 2 places too low. It's even more extraordinary than I remembered.

[Harry Lime]

Magnolia...It's even more extraordinary that I remembered.
No it isn't.

[Skepsis93]

Oh, but it is.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/oh-yes.gif

[gandalf26]

Top Ten of the 90's based on Box Office takings. Just for kicks.

10. Armageddon

9. Men in Black

8. Jurassic Park: The Lost World

7. The Sixth Sense

6. Forrest Gump

5. The Lion King

4. Independence Day

3. Jurassic Park

2. The Phantom Menace

1. Titanic

[gandalf26]

http://www.moviezadda.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Con-Air.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-S0eLYGuUMfY/T8zIjGy23sI/AAAAAAAABTY/jFl8aoVeKR4/s1600/scream1.jpg

http://www.skandalfilm.net/wp-content/uploads/funny_games.jpg

http://coolrain44.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/dumb_and_dumber.jpg

http://www.dvdsreleasedates.com/posters/800/L/Lock,-Stock-and-Two-Smoking-Barrels-1999-movie-poster.jpg

Better than........

http://www.traileraddict.com/content/warner-bros-pictures/fugitive.jpg

http://wouterdeboeck.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/the-last-of-the-mohicans.jpg

http://img.filmlinks4u.net/2010/10/The-Insider-1999-Hollywood-Movie-Watch-Online.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6LyMu4bcrDU/Tlc2-gCQw8I/AAAAAAAAAHc/UqwK4Es96jM/s1600/lost-highway.jpg

http://www.presse-agrume.net/medias/images/big/audition.jpg

[Mr Minio]

Magnolia? People are creaming over it so much I have to give it another chance. I turned it off after 30 minutes, because the person I was watching the movie with didn't like it, while I was indifferent. I didn't like its style, though.

[JayDee]

Magnolia, ugh!!! http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y193/JayDee87/puke_zps0ee0c920.gif (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/JayDee87/media/puke_zps0ee0c920.gif.html)

:p

I watched it a couple of weeks ago and kind of hated it. So for anyone who didn't see my review, and to further annoy those who did (hi Skepsis! :p), here's what I wrote about it. A little counterbalance to all the people raving about it


This has got to be one of the toughest and longest viewing experiences I've had in some time. At one point as I was struggling I checked the running time, hoping to see I was at least half way though and was dismayed that I had only managed to slog my way through 45 minutes of it. I couldn't believe it! I felt like I had been there for weeks! And yet I had barely made a dent.

The best way I can think to describe it is that I felt like Magnolia was the work of a magician, but not in a positive way. I felt like I was being treated to a case of misdirection, that Anderson was attempting to convince me I was seeing something that wasn't really there. With its epic 3 hour running time, countless number of characters and its numerous inter-weaving story threads it felt like it was trying to create the sense that you were watching something deep, profound, exceptional and unprecedented. Except that personally I didn't really find that to be the case. Instead I found it to be bloated, pretentious, convoluted, contrived and self indulgent. To me the film just felt extremely smug and oh so pleased with itself. This was particularly true of its opening sequences which depict 3 urban legends which apparently prove that sometimes the seemingly impossible does actually open; basically freeing the film from any duty to adhere to logic. These resulting breaks from reality feel tonally ridiculous and just plain silly; I'm looking at you, frogs that fall from the sky! And the moment that the characters all came together for a big sing-a-long? :facepalm: For me it again felt like an attempt to manipulate my feelings towards the film, that by merely making it weird and different it aims to convince me that means it's artistic or beautiful. The whole thing just felt oh so self-aware.
While I know that many people adore Anderson's direction I actually find that it can be quite irritating, especially when it comes to his trademark, Scorsese-aping, long tracking shots which don't seem to serve any purpose to the actual film itself except to show off his technical proficiency with a camera. I know that many people feel Anderson is the voice of his generation but I've got to say that outside of There Will Be Blood (which I thought was fantastic) I don't really feel like his films speak to me personally. And quite often I feel that his stylised direction just overwhelms what he is actually attempting to say.

I was able to identify and appreciate the themes that the film was attempting to touch on - guilt, remorse, loneliness, fate, coincidence, the sins of the father and the lasting effect it has on the children etc and its obvious religious/biblical connotations but I don't really see how it needed 3 hours to muse on them. Some stories do undoubtedly need such immense running times to cover everything they want to, but I didn't think this was one of them. So many of the characters and their stories seemed to be similar that it became repetitive and redundant. I imagine you could easily have trimmed some of the characters and stories, and left a good deal on the cutting room floor and still been able to tell the exact same story. You could argue that its point is relevant in portraying how so many of us are linked by these identical emotions and experiences but for a piece of cinema much of it just felt superfluous to me. And so often I just felt that the scenes went on so much longer than was really necessary. And even with its mammoth running time the film still manages to leave some unresolved threads.

I will concede to a couple of things in the film's favour. I'll give it that its a very ambitious undertaking, even if I felt it rather crumbled under the weight of such ambition. But I'll never level out severe criticism to a film-maker for being ambitious. I think it's a good thing for Hollywood to have distinctive voices such as Anderson and Tarantino, even if I don't always appreciate their efforts. And the other point I'll concede is that across the board it is superbly acted. That is especially true in the case of Tom Cruise and Philip Seymour Hoffman who were both superb in portraying quite disparate characters. Cruise was amazing as the spectacularly arrogant and despicable Frank T.J. Mackie who is eventually revealed to be hiding a deep pain. He is tremendous in the scene where he is confronted by the reporter about the truth regarding his past, saying so much with just his facial expressions as opposed to words. It's got to be one of his best performances. Cruise's scenes were a joy because they had by far the most energy and life about them. Imagine that, making something interesting. The other top performance would be Hoffman's, who is as impressive as ever as male nurse, Paul. Other impressive showings amongst the ensemble are delivered by the likes of William H. Macy, Jason Robards, Philip Baker Hall and Melora Walters. The one performance I had some reservations about was Julianne Moore's. At times I thought she was good but when expressing her grief I felt that on occasion she went way too big with it to cringingly hysterical effect.

So there you have it. I'm sure a lot of you will not agree with what I've said, and perhaps even be quite wound up by it. I only have one favour to ask - please come at me one at a time instead of joining together for a big group attack! :D I know this film is much-loved around these parts, including by a number of people around here I consider friends who have contributed a lot of support and appreciation for my reviews (Skepsis, Daniel, Brodinski, seanc etc) and to them I apologise. I certainly didn't set out with the intention of laying into this film that you love so much. Neither am I claiming that I have seen the truth of the film that you have failed to spot. You guys love it, and that's great. I'm just delivering my own uneducated viewpoint on the matter.

Conclusion - I can imagine Magnolia easily being a film that you don't really 'get' if you're not in the exact right frame of mind for it. So taking that into account along with the efforts of its cast and the reputation it has amongst film fans means that I probably will give it another go someday. Although at the moment I am struggling to imagine how I'll force myself to sit down for 3 hours to watch this again. It may be very impressive in numerous technical terms, and that's extremely true of the acting, but overall I just found it an overwrought experience which was over written, over directed and too often approached the depths of a soap opera.

[Thursday Next]

Magnolia, meh.

Disappointed Thelma and Louise, The Crying Game and Strange Days won't make it (although Strange Days never had much of a chance). I guess I should have had them higher up.

[gandalf26]

This makes no sense!


MoFo Top 100, Summer/Fall 2010

100. The Crow
99. Mystic River
98. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
97. Being John Malkovich
96. Double Indemnity
95. Spirited Away
94. Million Dollar Baby
93. Black Hawk Down
92. Moulin Rouge!
91. Leon (The Professional)
90. Good Will Hunting
89. Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
88. American Beauty
87. Raging Bull
86. Schindler's List
85. Signs
84. Sonatine
83. Magnolia
82. Requiem for a Dream
81. Titanic
80. The Royal Tenenbaums
79. Cabaret
78. Quills
77. Cool Hand Luke
76. The Breakfast Club
75. Monty Python and the Holy Grail
74. Midnight Cowboy
73. To Kill a Mockingbird
72. Dances with Wolves
71. Lawrence of Arabia
70. Superman: The Movie
69. Dark City
68. Psycho
67. Back to the Future
66. The Princess Bride
65. Naked
64. All About Eve
63. The Wild Bunch
62. In the Mood for Love
61. The Shining
60. Fargo
59. The Blues Brothers
58. The Searchers
57. Withnail & I
56. It's a Wonderful Life
55. Aliens
54. City of God
53. North By Northwest
52. Singin' in the Rain
51. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
50. Silence of the Lambs
49. The Third Man
48. Heat
47. Reservoir Dogs
46. The Dark Knight
45. Seven Samurai
44. Rear Window
43. Lost in Translation
42. The Last of the Mohicans
41. Sense and Sensibility
40. Die Hard
39. 12 Angry Men
38. Once Upon a Time in the West
37. Saving Private Ryan
36. Ghostbusters
35. Memento
34. Amelie
33. Forrest Gump
32. American History X
31. Gladiator
30. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
29. Vertigo
28. Terminator 2: Judgement Day
27. Dr. Strangelove: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
26. A Clockwork Orange
25. The Lord of the Rings
24. Se7en
23. Star Wars: Episode V- The Empire Strikes Back
22. Citizen Kane
21. Braveheart
20. Blade Runner
19. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
18. Chinatown
17. Casablanca
16. 2001: A Space Odyssey
15. Goodfellas
14. Apocalypse Now
13. Unforgiven
12. The Godfather, Part II
11. The Shawshank Redemption
10. The Matrix
9. Jaws
8. The Big Lebowski
7. The Departed
6. Fight Club
5. Taxi Driver
4. Raiders of the Lost Ark
3. Star Wars
2. Pulp Fiction
1. The Godfather


How can the voting habits of members change so radically in 3 years?

[Yoda]

Because a lot of the voting members are different.

[gandalf26]

Because a lot of the voting members are different.

But still it comes at number 42 of ALL TIME, and by a rough count number 14 of the 90's films on that list yet fails to make the 90's countdown?

[The Rodent]

Thing is, voting for an all time list and voting for a 90s list... or voting for an 80s list etc...

The choices will vary by quite a large way.

I made my 90s list... yet it has little bearing to 90s films that appear in my own Personal Top 100. The ones that appear in both are also in a different order.

[HitchFan97]

That's exactly why we need a new All-Time Top 100. That, and it would be absolutely epic.

[Yoda]

It's a modest sample size, and I'm guessing over half the people voting are different. So yeah, not too weird. If more people participated you'd see less of that, but 3 years is quite a long time, too. Lots of forum turnover.

[Deadite]

Crybabies... :facepalm:

[Guaporense]

Also the same members change their tastes over a 3 year period. Notice also that Terminator 2 was in 28th place in general and only in the 19th place here. The Matrix was higher at that poll than in this one!

[mark f]

For the most part I haven't been crying, but I think it's perfectly all right for people to express disappointment when their choices aren't recognized. It's at least as normally human as high-fiving your compatriots about how well your movie has done. Of course it's possible to take both emotions too far, as well as making peanut gallery comments or maybe even what you imagine are thoughtful comments. :)

[Miss Vicky]

I still maintain that the variation between this list (and the Milennium list) and the most recent All Time Top 100 has to do with it being a different set of voters rather than a change in taste. Also the age of the voters seems to be getting younger. It could be a false impression, but I feel like we have a lot more teens and twenty-somethings voting this time.

[Deadite]

Both. Tastes change, participants change.

Younger people are probably more likely to have evolving tastes, too.

[Guaporense]

I still maintain that the variation between this list (and the Milennium list) and the most recent All Time Top 100 has to do with it being a different set of voters rather than a change in taste. Also the age of the voters seems to be getting younger. It could be a false impression, but I feel like we have a lot more teens and twenty-somethings voting this time.

Even though the films are becoming more mature on average? :D

Well, young people that still are insecure about their adulthood like to have mature films on their favorites list to prove to themselves and others that they are indeed mature persons.

[Miss Vicky]

Well, young people that still are insecure about their adulthood like to have mature films on their favorites list to prove to themselves and others that they are indeed mature persons.

Are you sure you're not describing yourself?

Also, I must say that I don't believe that your condescension is unintentional. At all.

[Deadite]

Here we go again.

[Guaporense]

Are you sure you're not describing yourself?

Half of my top 10 is children's movies.

Also, I must say that I don't believe that your condescension is unintentional. At all.

I see. Well, what can I do?

[MovieFan31]

Well, young people that still are insecure about their adulthood like to have mature films on their favorites list to prove to themselves and others that they are indeed mature persons.

You are indeed right about this.

[HitchFan97]

Well, young people that still are insecure about their adulthood like to have mature films on their favorites list to prove to themselves and others that they are indeed mature persons.

*Ahem*. Speak for yourself.

[Deadite]

If you people start fighting today, I'm going to pull the pin on this grenade:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzmgixpwEI1rp4vueo1_400.jpg

[gandalf26]

I still think it's a massive swing for a film 42 on all time list and 14th on that list from the 90's films and not even make this list.

[Miss Vicky]

I see. Well, what can I do?

Put more thought into the actual words you choose and consider those on the receiving end, rather than just trying to boost your own over-inflated ego.

From reading the posts on these boards, I'd say most of our younger members are actually genuinely quite mature. The only things that give them away are the films they haven't yet seen and the occasional discussion about school.

[Guaporense]

*Ahem*. Speak for yourself.

I don't intend to point any fingers. It's just an hypothesis.

For instance, the older users like Mark F and Honeykid have movies like Jaws and Star Wars on their top 10's while among the younger users you will find only strictly adult films. Maybe that's because when we watch more movies we begin to value the magic of the classic blockbuster.

[Guaporense]

Put more thought into the actual words you choose and consider those on the receiving end

I see, I will try to be more careful. I am quite lazy so I don't usually read my posts after posting. I should be more careful to not offend anyone.

rather than just trying to boost your own over-inflated ego.

That's my parents fault! Problem is that I am almost autistic so I don't have great sensibility to the feelings of others and so I fail to take that into account when I write my posts.

From reading the posts on these boards, I'd say most of our younger members are actually genuinely quite mature. The only things that give them away are the films they haven't yet seen and the occasional discussion about school.

Yes, they are indeed quite impressive. I would never guess that users like Hitchfan and Cobbyth were under the age of 20, I would think, from their posts and taste, to be persons around the age of 30-60.

[HitchFan97]

I don't intend to point any fingers. It's just an hypothesis.

For instance, the older users like Mark F and Honeykid have movies like Jaws and Star Wars on their top 10's while among the younger users you will find only strictly adult films. Maybe that's because when we watch more movies we begin to value the magic of the classic blockbuster.
That's possible. I expect my tastes to change plenty in coming years, anyways. :)

[stevo3001]

I found Magnolia an interminable and self-parodically overwrought miseryfest.

[Frightened Inmate No. 2]

1. Pulp Fiction
2. Goodfellas
3. The Big Lebowski
4. The Shawshank Redemption
5. Fight Club
6. Se7en
7. Reservoir Dogs
8. LA Confidential

Also, Magnolia is pretty overrated.

[wintertriangles]

1. Pulp Fiction
2. Goodfellas
3. The Big Lebowski
4. The Shawshank Redemption
5. Fight Club
6. Se7en
7. Reservoir Dogs
8. LA Confidential

Also, Magnolia is pretty overrated.These two ideas are incredible and hilarious in juxtaposition.

[Deadite]

Magnolia is an epic emotional roller coaster ride, full of great performances, and its use of music is brilliant. :cool:

[Daniel M]

Magnolia is a great film, not my favourite PTA but a 4.5 maybe. Seeing as JayDee posted his review I am going to copy my reply!

The best way I can think to describe it is that I felt like Magnolia was the work of a magician

All good so far... :D

but not in a positive way.

... what the **** are you trying to say! No, seriously now here's what I have to say...

I felt like I was being treated to a case of misdirection, that Anderson was attempting to convince me I was seeing something that wasn't really there. With its epic 3 hour running time, countless number of characters and its numerous inter-weaving story threads it felt like it was trying to create the sense that you were watching something deep, profound, exceptional and unprecedented.

It does. But a lot of films do this. A film I know that you love is Forrest Gump, I give it 3 for similar reasons, it feels forced, like the director is deliberately placing things that aren't natural to bring the emotions out of you. So I ask the question, and it's a question to myself as well, why does this work for some films and not others and differ from person to person? What makes you fall in love with a character, a film, and make you go along with the magical journey?

Except that personally I didn't really find that to be the case. Instead I found it to be bloated, pretentious, convoluted, contrived and self indulgent. To me the film just felt extremely smug and oh so pleased with itself.

I understand why this could be a problem with PTA in general, he's a confident director and all his works are extremely ambitious, he is going to rub people up the wrong way with the way he combines elements of other directors and puts them together and attempts to make a 'masterpiece', as he admitted with There Will Be Blood. I don't think he's particularly innovative, and understand that he takes a lot from other works, but I just think he knows how to maximise certain elements of direction to make a film work, at least for me. His films do feel big and possibly pretentious, perhaps he hasn't earned the respect to make such titles yet, and I understand you hate 2001: A Space Odyssey too, but I feel he has the ability to do so.

This was particularly true of its opening sequences which depict 3 urban legends which apparently prove that sometimes the seemingly impossible does actually open; basically freeing the film from any duty to adhere to logic. These resulting breaks from reality feel tonally ridiculous and just plain silly; I'm looking at you, frogs that fall from the sky! And the moment that the characters all came together for a big sing-a-long? :facepalm:

I thought this was part of the film and it's kind of irony. From the beginning of the film you kind of expect everything to come together in perhaps an even more contrived way. But instead nothing really comes together and the only thing linking these characters are similar issues and problems in their lives. I can imagine PTA thinking about the ending, adding the frogs, and smiling, laughing almost at the audience. I thought the ending of The Master was very similar. In fact I think the plots are very similar, in both films we expect characters to come full circle, to end at a definitive point, we think we know what's going to happen, but by the end things just don't turn out that way.

For me it again felt like an attempt to manipulate my feelings towards the film, that by merely making it weird and different it aims to convince me that means it's artistic or beautiful. The whole thing just felt oh so self-aware.

Possibly, the ending is a very gutsy move for me, and I found that part of the beautiful irony. Thinks aren't normal, this isn't just some normal tale where everything plays out how you expect. It is self-aware, but I don't think this is a bad thing.

While I know that many people adore Anderson's direction I actually find that it can be quite irritating, especially when it comes to his trademark, Scorsese-aping, long tracking shots which don't seem to serve any purpose to the actual film itself except to show off his technical proficiency with a camera.

Out of interest how do you feel when directors like Scorsese and Altman use such shots. Most of the time I feel they're used with reason, the carefully follow characters and the directions, and helps further the idea of a connection between certain things, like everything is continuous. I can't take about particular scenes from this film as well as I can Boogie Nights though, so I'll leave it at that.

I know that many people feel Anderson is the voice of his generation but I've got to say that outside of There Will Be Blood (which I thought was fantastic) I don't really feel like his films speak to me personally.

Have you seen Punch-Drunk Love? That's a charming little film not too similar to his other works, and it's quirky in a way you might enjoy. But yeh I can understand why his other works may leave people cold. Boogie Nights is a dark, depressing, pessimistic film set in a brutal world, so is Sydney to a lesser extent. The Master and There Will Be Blood both have potentially dislikeable characters, I wouldn't be surprised to hear such a statement from anyone.

And quite often I feel that his stylised direction just overwhelms what he is actually attempting to say.

One of the best things about Scorsese use of tracking shots for me is how it just all blends in naturally, he's showing off without us realising in a way, maybe PTA's do seem more obvious sometimes, it's taking me a few viewings to notice all of them in some of his films, and like I said earlier I think in some scenes they work well in capturing what he's trying to say, displaying a character's emotions, showing connectivity and continuity etc.

I was able to identify and appreciate the themes that the film was attempting to touch on - guilt, remorse, loneliness, fate, coincidence, the sins of the father and the lasting effect it has on the children etc and its obvious religious/biblical connotations but I don't really see how it needed 3 hours to muse on them.

Fair enough, if you don't connect with the film this comment is always going to be present about the length, but for some people you are so engrossed and entertained by what's in front of you, you don't want it to end. And for me and many overs the long running length flew by. I thought the main theme was about the relationships between parents and their children, I didn't think the biblical stuff was in anyway important by the way.

Some stories do undoubtedly need such immense running times to cover everything they want to, but I didn't think this was one of them. So many of the characters and their stories seemed to be similar that it became repetitive and redundant. I imagine you could easily have trimmed some of the characters and stories, and left a good deal on the cutting room floor and still been able to tell the exact same story.

But with as much power? The cutting between scenes and slow build up of atmosphere in each characters stories is part of the film's brilliance for me, it all ticks along quietly, sometimes more subtle than others, but you can feel a real tension building, something dark coming, a storm brewing. Even subtle touches like the weather readings help reinforce this idea that something is about to happen. It feels like we are about to witness the end of the world, its strangely unsettling but delightful at the same time. I guess you wouldn't like Short Cuts either.

You could argue that its point is relevant in portraying how so many of us are linked by these identical emotions and experiences but for a piece of cinema much of it just felt superfluous to me. And so often I just felt that the scenes went on so much longer than was really necessary. And even with its mammoth running time the film still manages to leave some unresolved threads.

Yeh, I've pretty much covered my thoughts on this.

I will concede to a couple of things in the film's favour. I'll give it that its a very ambitious undertaking, even if I felt it rather crumbled under the weight of such ambition. But I'll never level out severe criticism to a film-maker for being ambitious. I think it's a good thing for Hollywood to have distinctive voices such as Anderson and Tarantino, even if I don't always appreciate their efforts.

:up:

And the other point I'll concede is that across the board it is superbly acted. That is especially true in the case of Tom Cruise and Philip Seymour Hoffman who were both superb in portraying quite disparate characters. Cruise was amazing as the spectacularly arrogant and despicable Frank T.J. Mackie who is eventually revealed to be hiding a deep pain. He is tremendous in the scene where he is confronted by the reporter about the truth regarding his past, saying so much with just his facial expressions as opposed to words. It's got to be one of his best performances. Cruise's scenes were a joy because they had by far the most energy and life about them. Imagine that, making something interesting. The other top performance would be Hoffman's, who is as impressive as ever as male nurse, Paul. Other impressive showings amongst the ensemble are delivered by the likes of William H. Macy, Jason Robards, Philip Baker Hall and Melora Walters. The one performance I had some reservations about was Julianne Moore's. At times I thought she was good but when expressing her grief I felt that on occasion she went way too big with it to cringingly hysterical effect.

I'm glad you appreciated the acting. It really is magnificent and I loved how PTA handles the ensemble cast. I have no complaints about anyone, the same goes with Boogie Nights. I think your criticism about Moore is a bit harsh though, for me she gives possibly the best performance and the most powerful.

I love PTA films because he combines what we've seen before with family a lot. Boogie Nights is all about family, despite being cold and set in a harsh world as I said it somehow had a personal effect on me and was a very powerful story. I find him to deal with relationships greatly, and really felt the parent/child theme that was so strong in this film.Neither am I claiming that I have seen the truth of the film that you have failed to spot. You guys love it, and that's great. I'm just delivering my own uneducated viewpoint on the matter.

:up:

[Cobpyth]

I pretty much agree with what Daniel responsed, except this:

I thought this was part of the film and it's kind of irony. From the beginning of the film you kind of expect everything to come together in perhaps an even more contrived way. But instead nothing really comes together and the only thing linking these characters are similar issues and problems in their lives. I can imagine PTA thinking about the ending, adding the frogs, and smiling, laughing almost at the audience. I thought the ending of The Master was very similar. In fact I think the plots are very similar, in both films we expect characters to come full circle, to end at a definitive point, we think we know what's going to happen, but by the end things just don't turn out that way.

I don't feel that way about Magnolia and The Master. They are both very different films, in my opinion, and seem to deal with their characters in very dissimilar ways, if you ask me. I can see that there is a sort of connection between both films, in terms of the troubles and the issues of the characters, but I felt that the outcome was very different.

SPOILERS!!!

I don't completely agree about 'nothing coming together' in Magnolia. I felt many things happened and revolved, ESPECIALLY during and after the exodic climax. I mean, in some sort of way, every character comes 'full circle' in it. Not always in a positive way, but every story had its own satisfying closure, in my opinion.

In The Master, I believe PTA did something completely different with his main character(s). PTA explores the motivations and issues of his characters in a much more subtle way here. In this film, the main character, Freddie Quell, ends up with a sect, a community, and tries to discover the answer to his issues and emptiness by putting himself in the hands of Lancaster Dodd. Only this time, there are no sudden insights. There are no frogs that make him see everything from a new perspective spiritually or emotionally. Still, we feel like the character learned something and that we learned something with him. It was all some sort of therapy. He finally realized something himself. He runs away, but he doesn't regret what happened to him.
In the ending scene, we seemingly see the same man as in the beginning, but somehow it's very different. He seems much more 'free' and 'dissolved' than he was in the beginning. Somehow there still is a circle. He dealt with life. Brilliant film.

Magnolia is more 'dealing with drama of the past and the present', while The Master is more a search for a purpose, something to live for.

[Deadite]

I really don't get the criticism of Magnolia's ending...

First of all, Magnolia wears its heart on its sleeve, so to speak. It lets you know that it's going to be a big operatic affair, but by the end the point should be clear: Life is a mess, and way bigger than our personal issues. Our flaws and little dramas are never going to be neatly resolved, but we can gain some perspective (and comfort) from knowing we live in a crazy world where sometime frogs rain from the sky.

It happens.

[Sexy Celebrity]

On with the next disappointment.

[Frightened Inmate No. 2]

I didn't care for Magnolia, but I don't have a problem with the ending. It felt just as bland as the rest of the movie.

In related news, I'm in the process of watching Boogie Nights. I've watched about the first 85 minutes, and then I had to stop for a while, but I'm actually really enjoying it. I don't love it, but it's far better than Magnolia.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I fear the next movie is Fight Club.

[Harry Lime]

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/3955/eaj5.jpg

8. L.A. Confidential
(Curtis Hanson, 1997)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119488/

313 POINTS

[Sexy Celebrity]

*nods* Good. I think.

[Harry Lime]

100. Con Air
99. The Hole
98. Speed
97. Beauty and the Beast
96. Edward Scissorhands
95. Show Me Love
94. The Sixth Sense
93. Short Cuts
92. Sling Blade
91. Heavenly Creatures
90. Dark City
89. Scream
88. The Sweet Hereafter
87. Rushmore
86. The Fifth Element
85. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
84. The Player
83. Point Break
82. Batman Returns
81. Farewell My Concubine
80. Close-Up
79. Naked Lunch
78. Fallen Angels
77. JFK
76. A Brighter Summer Day
75. Happiness
74. Starship Troopers
73. Life Is Beautiful
72. Donnie Brasco
71. All About My Mother
70. Before Sunrise
69. La Haine
68. Army of Darkness
67. The Nightmare Before Christmas
66. Trois couleurs: Bleu
65. Whisper of the Heart
64. The Boondock Saints
63. Funny Games
62. As Good as It Gets
61. Twelve Monkeys
60. Babe
59. Dumb and Dumber
58. The Double Life of Veronique
57. The Lion King
56. Underground
55. Hoop Dreams
54. Trois couleurs: Rouge
53. Toy Story 2
52. Breaking the Waves
51. Hana-bi
50. Total Recall
49. Ed Wood
48. Dazed and Confused
47. True Romance
46. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
45. Clerks
44. Jackie Brown
43. Sonatine
42. The Straight Story
41. Barton Fink
40. Man Bites Dog
39. Naked
38. The Truman Show
37. Miller's Crossing
36. Casino
35. Dead Man
34. Jurassic Park
33. Trainspotting
32. Braveheart
31. Chungking Express
30. American History X
29. Toy Story
28. The Thin Red Line
27. Good Will Hunting
26. Being John Malkovich
25. Groundhog Day
24. American Beauty
23. Leon: The Professional
22. Princess Mononoke
21. Heat
20. The Usual Suspects
19. Terminator 2: Judgment Day
18. Saving Private Ryan
17. Forrest Gump
16. The Silence of the Lambs
15. Eyes Wide Shut
14. Fargo
13. Boogie Nights
12. Unforgiven
11. The Matrix
10. Schindler's List
9. Magnolia
8. L.A. Confidential

[donniedarko]

On with the next disappointment.

You got that right

L.A Confidential= :yawn:

[mark f]

HA!
http://24.media.tumblr.com/9c22781e4c98efffa8acbc7efacb45c9/tumblr_mpm3bpRYnn1su4cb8o1_500.gif

[Frightened Inmate No. 2]

Yay, my prediction is right so far.

I didn't see LA Confidential in time, but it would be 24th if I made the list now.

[cricket]

L. A. Confidential didn't quite make my list and I didn't think it would make it this high, but I think it's a great movie. It also has my favorite performance from Russell Crowe.

[HitchFan97]

Surprised this didn't appear sooner, but I'm not complaining either. L.A. Confidential is awesome, I'm pretty sure it was in my top ten.

[Cobpyth]

8. L.A. Confidential - 4.5 (MY LIST)

A great neo-noir that contains a wonderful score, stylish atmosphere, awesome acting performances and a very warm, yet obscure look.
I probably placed it a little too high on my list, but I don't regret it. The only problem I have with this film is the ending. It's very formulaic and seemed to "betray" the noir genre a little bit, in my opinion. Oh well, I still liked the film so extremely much, despite the lesser ending, that I consider it as one of the best and most enjoyable films of the '90s.

Kevin Spacey is also freaking G-L-A-M-O-R-O-U-S as Jack Vincennes:

http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/reviews/la_confidential/image1.jpg

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[HitchFan97]

^The whole damn movie is glamorous.

[honeykid]

That's a good choice. It didn't make my list, but I really like it. Well done, MoFo's. Not as good as my #8, but we've already had Scream. :D

[HandyApe]

L.A. Confidential - 4

Really enjoyable film.

[wintertriangles]

On with the next disappointment.

I don't say this very often but Sexy was right. Waaaaaaaaay too high for something this average.

[Harry Lime]

Just a note: This is a big jump in points from the last film, 254-313. Also, this great film was on the highest number of lists so far at 24.

[rauldc14]

Just a note: This is a big jump in points from the last film, 254-313. Also, this great film was on the highest number of lists so far at 24.

That's because it is a hell of a film. This is a place that I could have only dreamed of it making.

[Deadite]

Awesome film. Had it at 12. :up:

[Miss Vicky]

L.A. Confidential - great film. Great cast. And #11 on my list.

[OMEGA5]

Superb film!

[Godoggo]

I don't remember where I had it on my list, but it's on there. Great adaption of a great novel from one of my favorite authors. Ellroy's novels are noted for rapid style delivery and the most corrupt and amoral characters that you will ever root for and even come to care about. The movie catches the tone of the novel perfectly and couldn't have been cast better. I love it. It's not only one of my favorite 90s movies, it's one of my favorites period.

Mark, I thought you liked L.A. Confidential?

[Miss Vicky]

I don't say this very often but Sexy was right. Waaaaaaaaay too high for something this average.

Apparently 24 of the voters don't see it that way.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I haven't seen it. I'm a little curious about seeing it now, but frankly, the fixation I had on Kevin Spacey a decade ago has really diluted and now I kinda cringe at the thought of watching him. Even American Beauty got on my nerves the last time I saw it. But I did watch K-PAX and that was okay.

[mark f]

Mark, I thought you liked L.A. Confidential?
I was ironically referencing my post, not donnie's. I had it at #5.
For the most part I haven't been crying, but I think it's perfectly all right for people to express disappointment when their choices aren't recognized. It's at least as normally human as high-fiving your compatriots about how well your movie has done. Of course it's possible to take both emotions too far, as well as making peanut gallery comments or maybe even what you imagine are thoughtful comments. :)
HA!
http://24.media.tumblr.com/9c22781e4c98efffa8acbc7efacb45c9/tumblr_mpm3bpRYnn1su4cb8o1_500.gif

[Godoggo]

Ahh. I completely missed that post in my skimming. Makes sense now.

[Guaporense]

I don't say this very often but Sexy was right. Waaaaaaaaay too high for something this average.

Yeah, I watched it and though: so??

[Deadite]

Yeah, that's what I think when I read your posts. :)

[rauldc14]

L.A. Confidential - great film. Great cast. And #11 on my list.

Wow! We agree!

[stevo3001]

LA Confidential is a pretty good movie. Not close to making my list or anything, but vastly better than most of the garbage in the 'neo-noir' genre, which would be a contender for 'worst film genre of recent decades' if it wasn't for the existence of torture porn. Interesting premise, strong atmosphere, some good performances (I liked Kim Basinger best); worthwhile anyway.