The MoFo Top 100 of the Nineties Countdown

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[Sexy Celebrity]

Dumb and Dumber deserves to be on the list for this moment alone -


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"Can you say pretty bird?"

Roger Ebert thought that was the best thing about Dumb & Dumber.

[The Gunslinger45]

next two movies please!

[Harry Lime]

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58. La double vie de Véronique
aka The Double Life of Veronique
(Krzysztof Kieslowski, 1991)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101765/

71 POINTS

[Harry Lime]

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57. The Lion King
(Roger Allers and Rob Minkoff, 1994)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110357/

72 POINTS

[Harry Lime]

100. Con Air
99. The Hole
98. Speed
97. Beauty and the Beast
96. Edward Scissorhands
95. Show Me Love
94. The Sixth Sense
93. Short Cuts
92. Sling Blade
91. Heavenly Creatures
90. Dark City
89. Scream
88. The Sweet Hereafter
87. Rushmore
86. The Fifth Element
85. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
84. The Player
83. Point Break
82. Batman Returns
81. Farewell My Concubine
80. Close-Up
79. Naked Lunch
78. Fallen Angels
77. JFK
76. A Brighter Summer Day
75. Happiness
74. Starship Troopers
73. Life Is Beautiful
72. Donnie Brasco
71. All About My Mother
70. Before Sunrise
69. La Haine
68. Army of Darkness
67. The Nightmare Before Christmas
66. Trois couleurs: Bleu
65. Whisper of the Heart
64. The Boondock Saints
63. Funny Games
62. As Good as It Gets
61. Twelve Monkeys
60. Babe
59. Dumb and Dumber
58. The Double Life of Veronique
57. The Lion King

[JayDee]

Well yay for another movie from my list making it (Lion King) but god damn it's low!!! :eek: Can't believe that's not even made the top 50. I thought that would have easily been a top 25

[Camo]

Surprised to see The Double Life of Veronique above Blue i've not seen it but i always thought the Three Colours Trilogy was more popular. The Lion King is the 3rd movie from my list had it at 22. When i was about 8 or 9 it was my favourite movie, i actually watched it with my nephew a few weeks back and i still really enjoyed it.

[donniedarko]

I didn't finish Double Life of Veronique, I watched the majority but I just never felt so unattached to a film before. It's not even that I was watching out the corner of my eye, I was just not even remotely involved. Lion King wasn't an intimate part of my childhood, but I watched it again in the past year, and I must say it's the most emotionally extracting animated movie. I am to shocked that it's not vastly higher

[JayDee]

That's it! After the disgracefully low placing for Lion King I'm throwing in with Sexy. This lists SUCKS!!!

[Sexy Celebrity]

We don't need Veronique. We need Mrs. Doubtfire.

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[wintertriangles]

Surprised to see The Double Life of Veronique above Blue i've not seen it but i always thought the Three Colours Trilogy was more popular.My having it at #1 might have something to do with it. I guess I couldn't hope for higher on this one, still upset about Blue though.

[Sexy Celebrity]

8 reps for Lion King. None for Veronique.

[wintertriangles]

8 reps for Lion King. None for Veronique. You sure you want to use that double-edged sword? 21358 cumulative reps for all the posts in this thread telling you to shut up ;)

[Sexy Celebrity]

You sure you want to use that double-edged sword? 21358 cumulative reps for all the posts in this thread telling you to shut up ;)

That don't bother me. Does it bother you that your #1 movie sits next to Dumb and Dumber?

[wintertriangles]

That don't bother me. Does it bother you that your #1 movie sits next to Dumb and Dumber?Nope but I'm sure something about that bothers you since you brought it up and you only talk when you want to bitch.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Nope but I'm sure something about that bothers you since you brought it up and you only talk when you want to bitch.

That's not true. I have a lot of nice things to say. None for you, however.

[Skepsis93]

That's the 4th film from my list, The Lion King at #12. Like most who voted for it, I suspect, it's a childhood favourite, perhaps the defining movie of my childhood, in fact. Still enjoy it immensely today.

[Daniel M]

The Lion King is a really good film, but I wouldn't save I love it as much as some people on here. A strong 3.5, and I'll be honest, probably where it deserves to be on the list :p

[Miss Vicky]

I don't know that I've even heard of The Double Life of Veronique and it doesn't look like my cup of tea.

I've never been a fan of The Lion King and never understood the insane amount of love it gets.

[cricket]

Haven't seen either and don't want to. Not saying they're not great films but I haven't been interested in kid's films in about 30 years, and I really only watch foreign films if they're violent.

[Guaporense]

People's reasons for counting films among their favorites, for example, may be tied to personal experiences. It would be ridiculous for people to deny the significance of these experiences, but it would also be ridiculous to use them to claim a film is objectively good, given that others won't share those experiences. Hence, the common distinction between the best things, and our favorite things.

So, you are saying that the objectively good films are those that are the favorites of many people. :D

I can agree with that. For instance, the movies in this top 100 are the movies that managed to become favorites of a significant number of members of the MoFo and so they are what the MoFo thinks are among the best movies of the decade (among because we all are ignorant of many movies).

[Guaporense]

That's the 4th film from my list, The Lion King at #12. Like most who voted for it, I suspect, it's a childhood favourite, perhaps the defining movie of my childhood, in fact. Still enjoy it immensely today.

The Lion King was my favorite movie when I was 5-6. Now after I rewatched it is just too retarded for me to think of it as a great movie.

According to some critics The Lion King is among the weakest movies of Disney's 1989-2000 renaissance.

[Godoggo]

The Lion King is a really good movie. It's not my favorite Disney, but I do enjoy it and it probably deserves to be higher.

I didn't care for Veronique for similar reasons as Donnie. I just didn't connect to it.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Oh, wait a minute. Lion King showed up. Time for the Whoopi Goldberg hyena.

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[Guaporense]

Well yay for another movie from my list making it (Lion King) but god damn it's low!!! :eek: Can't believe that's not even made the top 50. I thought that would have easily been a top 25

MoFo's average taste seems to be improving. :D The Lion King is probably around the 10,000th best movie of the 1990's, considering I estimate that about 30,000 movies were made in the 1990's and it is an above average movie.

[Guaporense]

Surprised to see The Double Life of Veronique above Blue i've not seen it but i always thought the Three Colours Trilogy was more popular. The Lion King is the 3rd movie from my list had it at 22. When i was about 8 or 9 it was my favourite movie, i actually watched it with my nephew a few weeks back and i still really enjoyed it.

The points from the Three Colors Trilogy got divided among the 3 movies. So it is more popular, Three Colors Red and maybe White may be coming up soon as well.

[Guaporense]

. Kids can enjoy it superficially, but it's a great film for anyone. Wish it were higher, but I'm happy to see it all the same. :)

Agree with your post but except for this: do not underestimate the intellectual capacities of kids. Kid's movies tend to be simplistic not because the kids are dumber than the adults but because the adults who made the films THINK that the kids are dumb. However, I remember that when I watched Babe when I was 7 I was very impressed with it's depth, much more impressed than with the second rate stuff that was made for kids at the time.

[Miss Vicky]

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[Guaporense]

I have reservations about Ebert's tastes tbh...

He hammered films like Constantine, Deep Rising, The Blue Lagoon, The Usual Suspects and The Village... ok, not award winning, but still not films that deserve to be on a Worst List. Which if you look at his site, he has them in the Worst Films Ever Made category.
One thing I noticed though, is that his "Worst" list doesn't feature Howard The Duck or The Garbage Pail Kids Movie.

Then he goes ahead and puts the likes of Gates Of Heaven and 28 Up into the Top 10 Greatest Films Of All Time...

Strange bloke.

No he doesn't, his last top 10 of all time he submitted last year was:

- The General
- Apocalypse Now
- Aguirre: The Wrath of God
- 2001
- Vertigo
- Citizen Kane
- Tokyo Story
- The Tree of Life
- Ranging Bull

and another one I forgot

[mark f]

The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast aren't "kiddie films" and certainly are not "retarded". I was 39 when the former came out and 33 when the latter did, and I tnought and still think they were each one of the best of the year. Maybe some of you could be, as Luke Askew says in Easy Rider, "a trifle polite" when discussing them. Or not. :)

[Sexy Celebrity]

Wasn't Beauty and the Beast nominated for an Oscar for Best Picture or something like that? I remember that being a huge deal.

[mark f]

Yeah, the first and only animated film nominated for Best Picture when there were only five nominees.

[Guaporense]

The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast aren't "kiddie films" and certainly are not "retarded". I was 39 when the former came out and 33 when the latter did, and I tnought and still think they were each one of the best of the year. Maybe some of you could be, as Luke Askew says in Easy Rider, "a trifle polite" when discussing them. Or not. :)

I am sorry but I found The Lion King to be very very limited on an intellectual level. One of the dumbest films I ever watched in my entire life, easily. Its the definition of a movie that shows the authors' contempt for the intellect of it's audience. Babe, by contrast, is a much more complex family film.

I never said that The Beauty and the Beast is retarded - and nobody else did on this thread at least. Though I haven't watched it in ages so I can't comment.

[Miss Vicky]

I never said that The Beauty and the Beast is retarded - and nobody else did on this thread at least. Though I haven't watched it in ages so I can't comment.

He didn't accuse you of calling Beauty and The Beast retarded.

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No he doesn't, his last top 10 of all time he submitted last year was:

- The General
- Apocalypse Now
- Aguirre: The Wrath of God
- 2001
- Vertigo
- Citizen Kane
- Tokyo Story
- The Tree of Life
- Ranging Bull

and another one I forgot

Hi there.

Yeah, the first and only animated film nominated for Best Picture when there were only five nominees.

Hi.

[Deadite]

Oh my god, let's not be inane, people. I've found almost every Disney animation I've seen to be a mixed bag. Lion King's at least an above-average animation. It's not as subtle or gorgeous as a Mononoke or Spirited Away, IMO, but it's certainly not bad.

I think I will rewatch Double Life again before putting any opinion forward.

[honeykid]

The points from the Three Colors Trilogy got divided among the 3 movies. So it is more popular, Three Colors Red and maybe White may be coming up soon as well.
Red will turn up, but I don't see White having any chance.

Well, I love The Double Life Of Veronique, so thank you to those who voted for a film that yoyoed on my list before, finally, being left off because it's been so long since I last saw it. Had this been a 'best of' list, I'd have had no problem placing it in the top 25 and, possibly, above Red, as well.

The Lion King's ok. It's a decent film and I know it means a lot to a lot of people. However, while I knew it'd show up, I have to say I'm slightly pleased it's on the 'wrong' side of the top 50.

[Yoda]

Agree with your post but except for this: do not underestimate the intellectual capacities of kids. Kid's movies tend to be simplistic not because the kids are dumber than the adults but because the adults who made the films THINK that the kids are dumb. However, I remember that when I watched Babe when I was 7 I was very impressed with it's depth, much more impressed than with the second rate stuff that was made for kids at the time.
I agree completely; I wrote something very similar in my review of The Last Airbender (http://www.movieforums.com/reviews/the_last_airbender.html), in fact:

Films meant for children work best when they aim above what their audience can comprehend. The visuals will entertain either way, but it is the hint of something more, something we don't yet understand but know is important, that inspires us to grow. Great storytelling does not stoop to meet us where we are, it beckons us to come further.
In this case I was thinking more of younger children, and just generally conveying my admiration for the fact that Babe can appeal to different audiences.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Add another film I've never heard of to the list.....The Lion King? Who watches these movies?

[Deadite]

You... you're kidding, right?

[The Rodent]

Had The Lion King at 23 in my list...

The Double Life of Veronique wasn't bad, but another I'm not a fan of.


Makes 7 from my list now :D

[Thursday Next]

I voted for The Double Life of Veronique. I had it at #12 on my list, which in hindsight I think was maybe a bit high, but everything after my top 8 changed places frequently while I was trying to decide. I have a combination on my list of films which I watched in the 90s and remember fondly and ones which I saw for the first time more recently and have been impressed by. Veronique falls into the latter category.

Why I prefer it to the Three Colours films: I like the slightly off beat fairytale vibe it has. The double lives, the slightly creepy puppets, Veronique's relationship with the puppeteer, the mysterious letters and tapes -- it's like Amelie without the thick layer of cheese. Irene Jacob is gorgeous and I also love the music and the way it is used in the film.

[Cobpyth]

The Lion King was my favorite movie when I was 5-6. Now after I rewatched it is just too retarded for me to think of it as a great movie.

According to some critics The Lion King is among the weakest movies of Disney's 1989-2000 renaissance.

It's 90% and 8.2 on Rotten Tomatoes (109 reviews), so it's certainly regarded as one of the very best Disney films of the '90s, if not of all time.

I also don't get why someone would EVER call this film retarted? It's a very solid story without any plotholes and with a certain character depth (in my opinion). I already stated my opinion once before and I'm going to say it again: Simba is one of the most three-dimensional and interesting characters in Disney history. He's suffering an existential crisis throughout the whole film and as an almost 20 year old, I still appreciate a lot how they executed it.
I can understand that some of the songs can seem a little corny, but they work for me, mainly because they are all classics. Besides the more dramatic story, there's also a nice portion of good comedy.

The Lion King is one of Disney's most intelligent and epic films ever and it deserves all its credits.

MoFo's average taste seems to be improving. :D The Lion King is probably around the 10,000th best movie of the 1990's, considering I estimate that about 30,000 movies were made in the 1990's and it is an above average movie.

I strongly disagree. The animation is great, the story is great and if you would use audiences as a criterion (which you do a lot in some of your posts), it's actually regarded as one of the 100 best movies of the 1990s.


I am sorry but I found The Lion King to be very very limited on an intellectual level. One of the dumbest films I ever watched in my entire life, easily. Its the definition of a movie that shows the authors' contempt for the intellect of it's audience.

WHAT?
What's more intelligent about Castle in the Sky (one of your favorite movies of all time) than The Lion King? In my opinion: NOTHING.
You know I appreciate Miyazaki a lot and I think he made some brilliant and deep films, but some of his films are on the same level of intelligence as The Lion King, if not lower (in my opinion). It's not because a story is more straightforward, that it's automatically less intelligence. The intelligence of The Lion King lies in its message and in the struggling of Simba to find his true self (which sounds like a cliché, but is actually very believably and cleverly showed in this picture).

For example: this is what I would call brilliant, intelligent and even poetic filmmaking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5az0W4Y1nuU

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The Lion King is the quintessential Disney animated EPIC and is a childhood favorite. It didn't make my list, but it was a strong candidate. I still consider it one of Disney's 5 best (hand drawn animated) pictures of all time.


100. Con Air - Not seen
99. Dong aka The Hole - Not seen
98. Speed - 3
97. Beauty and the Beast - 3.5
96. Edward Scissorhands - 4
95. F#cking Amal aka Show Me Love - Not Seen
94. The Sixth Sense - 4
93. Short Cuts - 4.5 (MY LIST)
92. Sling Blade - Not Seen
91. Heavenly Creatures - Not Seen
90. Dark City - Not Seen
89. Scream - 3.5
88. The Sweet Hereafter - Not Seen
87. Rushmore - 3.5
86. The Fifth Element - 3.5+
85. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Not Seen
84. The Player - 5 (MY LIST)
83. Point Break - Not Seen
82. Batman Returns - 3
81. Farewell My Concubine - 4
80. Nema-ye Nazdik aka Close-Up - Not Seen
79. Naked Lunch - Not Seen
78. Duo luo tian shi aka Fallen Angels - Not Seen
77. JFK - Not Seen
76. A Brighter Summer Day - Not Seen
75. Happiness - 3.5
74. Starship Troopers - Not Seen
73. Life Is Beautiful - Not Seen
72. Donnie Brasco - Not Seen
71. All About My Mother - 3.5(+)
70. Before Sunrise - 3.5(+)
69. La Haine - Not Seen
68. Army of Darkness - Not Seen
67. The Nightmare Before Christmas - 3.5(+)
66. Trois couleurs: Bleu - Not Seen
65. Whisper of the Heart - Not Seen – 3.5(+)
64. The Boondock Saints - Not Seen
63. Funny Games - Not Seen
62. As Good as It Gets - 3.5(-)
61. Twelve Monkeys - 4+ (MY LIST)
60. Babe - Not Seen
59. Dumb and Dumber - Not Seen
58. The Double Life of Veronique - Not Seen
57. The Lion King - 4+

[The Rodent]

What's funnier about Guap saying The Lion King is dumb and has no intelligence to it and that the writers have contempt for audience intelligence... is that the film is based on a Shakespeare play.

I reckon that means Shakespeare must be a right knob, huh? Hamlet is so overrated.

[Cobpyth]

What's funnier about Guap saying The Lion King is dumb and has no intelligence to it and that the writers have contempt for audience intelligence... is that the film is based on a Shakespeare play.

I reckon that means Shakespeare must be a right knob, huh?

Yeah. I also wanted to use that argument, but he would probably reply something like:
"It may be based on Shakespeare's Hamlet, but they oversimplified the source material."

I would strongly disagree with that, by the way.

[The Rodent]

It's a bit of a mix as well... they took stories of Moses as well and mixed them in with Hamlet...

The Lion King has to be Disney's best by a long, long way... Dumbo coming in a second... but, I guess with it being animation of that nature, rather than anime, it means it's rubbish as far as Guap is concerned.

I bet if Myazaki had made the film, in his animation style... but kept every scene, scene placement, and every line of dialogue exactly the same, Guap would love it :rolleyes:

[Camo]

The points from the Three Colors Trilogy got divided among the 3 movies. So it is more popular, Three Colors Red and maybe White may be coming up soon as well.

I would've expected Blue to finish above White tbh, who knows though you may be right.

[jal90]

I can't say I understand Guaporense's rant on the (lack of) intelligence of The Lion King, but to me it simply doesn't work as well. The movie tries very hard to appeal to a wider audience than the usual Disney, but it turns out to be a mixed bag. The light parts with the songs are incredibly corny (in a level that is, at times, even excessive for Disney standards), and the dark parts instead are very f***ed up. It just keeps veering to either extreme through the whole movie, and to me it lacks the malice and charm that other darker-than-usual Disneys have, let's say Pinocchio or The great mouse detective.

On the development I have other specific issues with the movie that I commented at one of these threads about overrated flicks just a few days ago.

[Camo]

No he doesn't, his last top 10 of all time he submitted last year was:

- The General
- Apocalypse Now
- Aguirre: The Wrath of God
- 2001
- Vertigo
- Citizen Kane
- Tokyo Story
- The Tree of Life
- Ranging Bull

and another one I forgot

I always though it was odd that he had Tree of Life on that list when A Seperation was his pick for best film of 2011.

[JayDee]

The Lion King was my favorite movie when I was 5-6. Now after I rewatched it is just too retarded for me to think of it as a great movie.

According to some critics The Lion King is among the weakest movies of Disney's 1989-2000 renaissance.

Wow...just wow. First of all I hate when people use the word 'retarded' to describe anything; just sounds so derogarory and offensive to me. And to aim it at The Lion King of all films seems ridiculous to me. It's a beautifully animated film with some great vocal performances, striking images and is both hilariously funny and greatly touching. And has some damn fine songs!

Yeah and according to many more critics I'm guessing its the best of their renaissance; and one of Disney's best ever. So I don't really see how that is lending any credence to your arguement.

[seanc]

I would like to know which critics thought Lion King was worse than Hunchback, Mulan, Pocahontas, or even Bugs Life. I'm sure there are a couple others I left out that there would be a consensus that Lion King is superior to. We all know that consensus is the only true way to judge a film.

[Deadite]

I thought the comedy and drama worked better together in Mulan, and I was more interested in her journey than Simba's.

I find most of 'em quite corny and obvious, overall, TBH, but I generously rate them relative to each other. If I rated them broadly with any and all animation, then yeah, Disney cartoons tend to be too simplistic and predictable.

[seanc]

Your going to look elsewhere for abstract ideas for sure. I like the connotations that come with the word simplistic as opposed to retarded. I certainly rank children's films against other children's films. I don't think anyone does that genre like Disney and Pixar.

[Deadite]

Yeah, I thought "retarded" was a poor word choice.

[rauldc14]

better watch out. The Lion King is the 2nd on my list to appear, at #18 for me. I am with SC though, we do need a Mrs. Doubtfire sighting.

[wintertriangles]

I am with SC though, we do need a Mrs. Doubtfire sighting.Even Robin Williams would disagree

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[Yoda]

Yeah, great post. I'll have to link to that in the future when it comes up again. Great job Vicky. :up:

[Sexy Celebrity]

I am with SC though, we do need a Mrs. Doubtfire sighting.

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Even Robin Williams would disagree

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[gandalf26]

By teaching Sexy that multi quote trick, Vicky has inadvertently reduced the final number of pages in this thread by about 8 thousand.:)

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yeah, I thought "retarded" was a poor word choice.

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No, it's not. We are taking it back.

[donniedarko]

Yeah, I thought "retarded" was a poor word choice.

True. We're not talking about Forrest Gump

[Deadite]

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No, it's not. We are taking it back.

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[Harry Lime]

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56. Underground
(Emir Kusturica, 1995)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114787/

75 POINTS

[Harry Lime]

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55. Hoop Dreams
(Steve James, 1994)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110057/

77 POINTS

[Harry Lime]

100. Con Air
99. The Hole
98. Speed
97. Beauty and the Beast
96. Edward Scissorhands
95. Show Me Love
94. The Sixth Sense
93. Short Cuts
92. Sling Blade
91. Heavenly Creatures
90. Dark City
89. Scream
88. The Sweet Hereafter
87. Rushmore
86. The Fifth Element
85. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
84. The Player
83. Point Break
82. Batman Returns
81. Farewell My Concubine
80. Close-Up
79. Naked Lunch
78. Fallen Angels
77. JFK
76. A Brighter Summer Day
75. Happiness
74. Starship Troopers
73. Life Is Beautiful
72. Donnie Brasco
71. All About My Mother
70. Before Sunrise
69. La Haine
68. Army of Darkness
67. The Nightmare Before Christmas
66. Trois couleurs: Bleu
65. Whisper of the Heart
64. The Boondock Saints
63. Funny Games
62. As Good as It Gets
61. Twelve Monkeys
60. Babe
59. Dumb and Dumber
58. The Double Life of Veronique
57. The Lion King
56. Underground
55. Hoop Dreams

[Miss Vicky]

I've not seen either. I don't think I've even heard of Underground. Neither looks particularly interesting to me.

[Harry Lime]

Both were on my list.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Trash and something I haven't seen.

[mark f]

That's what you think of the whole list. :)

[Sexy Celebrity]

The first thing I saw coming in here was Harry's post, "Both were on my list" and I was immediately upset without even seeing the films.

[cricket]

2 films that don't interest me at all; just not my taste.

[mark f]

Underground is a trippy three-hour Yugoslavian black comedy, and Hoop Dreams is a three-hour documentary that follows two poor Chicago boys' high school basketball careers and the unpredictable way their college recruitment and possible turning professional plays out for themselves and their families. Neither is what you'd call mainstream, but they reward your investment of time if you're interested. I didn't vote for them.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Both of these movies are three hours long? I've noticed a lot of these pairs have something in common. It really makes me suspect Harry tampered with the list, like he said he would.

[honeykid]

Never gotten around to seeing Underground or been particularly bothered to. I liked Hoop Dreams and, when it came out, I'd not seen anything like it before. It must be close to 20 years since I saw it, but I'd certainly recommend it.

[Guaporense]

Underground would be on my top 25 if I had seem it earlier, I haven't gotten around Hoop Dreams yet. Though I ask, do documentaries can be compared to regular films?

[Guaporense]

Whoa! I am using multi-quote!

Your going to look elsewhere for abstract ideas for sure. I like the connotations that come with the word simplistic as opposed to retarded. I certainly rank children's films against other children's films. I don't think anyone does that genre like Disney and Pixar.

Well, children's films don't need to be simplistic at all. Spirited Away, for instance, is extremely complex and rich and is a movie that was made with 10 year old girls in mind. If you want an example from Pixar/Disney, take films like UP and Wall-E, two children's movies that are very sophisticated works of art. The defense "it's a children's movie" from the accusation of lack of complexity and substance is no defense at all. In fact, if all children's movies were simplistic I personally would never put them into my favorites list but I have around 3 movies made for children at or under 12 in my top 100 favorites.

The Lion King is a very very very simplistic movie that I would rank as the least complex film I saw in the recent past. It can be summed up as:

1 - The rightful heir of the throne is born, son of the good king
2 - The good king is murdered and the throne is stolen by an evil impostor
3 - The rightful heir to the throne is exiled for a decade, but he comes back and kills the evil impostor who whose evil government was leading the kingdom to it's decline with famines and stuff.
4 - Everybody is happy now that the rightful heir is the new good king. He has now produced a son, who is the new heir of the throne.

The movie is also rather medieval in terms of ideology, it even appears to favor a monarchical system of government. The characters are all made of cardboard without any complexity at all. Also, the life cycle and death of a parental figure are concepts recycled from Bambi, a film that I found considerably superior to The Lion King.

Yeah, I thought "retarded" was a poor word choice.

Well, despite being quite intellectually limited it still has tons of heart so I rate it as an above average movie but I didn't enjoy watching it as much as I though I should because the lack of complexity really made everything looks rather fake and forced.

[donniedarko]

I'm glad to see Underground, it wasn't on my list, but for a three hour film it's highly entertaining, and has a unique circus/carnival humorous style to it. 3.5+

Don't really want to see Hoop Dreams

[Deadite]

Do can be what?

Anyhoo, Hoop Dreams is a very good doc. Dunno the other one but I'm interested. *googles* ...whoah. It was originally a 5 hour mini-series.

[edarsenal]

Underground definitely piques the curiosity

[OMEGA5]

Well, despite being quite intellectually limited it still has tons of heart so I rate it as an above average movie but I didn't enjoy watching it as much as I though I should because the lack of complexity really made everything looks rather fake and forced.

You know a movie doesn't have to be complex to be great. Simplicity is sometimes more. E.G. Modern Times, Safety Last!...

[Guaporense]

You know a movie doesn't have to be complex to be great. Simplicity is sometimes more. E.G. Modern Times, Safety Last!...

Maybe. But in certain cases it is not only simple but simplistic. And in that case the film is hurt. My favorite movie is simple but not simplistic, it is elegant.

[Godoggo]

I recently watched Underground for a tournament and really liked it. I toyed with putting it on my list, but I had so many old favorites, I didn't have any room for new favorites.

Hoop Dreams is really good. I should watch it again.

[rauldc14]

The millenium list continues its dominance on the 90s list. Now there are some great films that are truly in question here, which would really piss me off if they didn't make it.

[Deadite]

So what are the absolute musts that will piss you off if they don't show up?

[Guaporense]

The millenium list continues its dominance on the 90s list. Now there are some great films that are truly in question here, which would really piss me off if they didn't make it.

Why piss you off? The smallest the quantity of films that you watched on the list the better it is since it means that there are many great films you don't know about.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Underground definitely piques the curiosity

It piques everybody's curiosity because nobody's seen it.

[jiraffejustin]

My first post here was telling people to vote for Underground. It looks like maybe a couple people followed my advice.

[Harry Lime]

My first post here was telling people to vote for Underground. It looks like maybe a couple people followed my advice.
Oh yeah, if it wasn't for your advice I would have never voted for it.

[Deadite]

Burn, I guess. Post some movies, Lime, you scoundrel.

[Harry Lime]

Burn, I guess. Post some movies, Lime, you scoundrel.
Why, so I can read some more bitching and complaining?

[Deadite]

Yeah!

[jiraffejustin]

Oh yeah, if it wasn't for your advice I would have never voted for it.

Can't tell the level of sarcasm here, either way....

:highfive:

[Harry Lime]

Can't tell the level of sarcasm here, either way....

:highfive:

No...No sarcasm here at all. Really.

[jal90]

I sent the movie, so what I'm saying here is no use, but Underground is a masterpiece of epic proportions, like literally. And don't worry about the length, it's not what I would call a bore. But rather crazy and fast-paced.

[Daniel M]

Both films that I really want to see, Underground especially because recently its had a lot of love around here, Hoop Dreams when I eventually get round to watching more documentaries.

[gandalf26]

Didn't realise we could vote for documentaries. Thought this was supposed to be a movies list.

[Cobpyth]

1 - The rightful heir of the throne is born, son of the good king
2 - The good king is murdered and the throne is stolen by an evil impostor
3 - The rightful heir to the throne is exiled for a decade, but he comes back and kills the evil impostor who whose evil government was leading the kingdom to it's decline with famines and stuff.
4 - Everybody is happy now that the rightful heir is the new good king. He has now produced a son, who is the new heir of the throne.


If you think that's the only main subject of this movie, then it is you who has the superficial and simplistic look. Have you even read my post, by the way? Why would they put a scene like the one I posted in the film if the topic is merely what you claim it to be?

Your argument is like saying:

The Shining is:

SPOILERS!!!

1. A family goes to a hotel for several months to beware of it during the winter.
2. The father of the family becomes crazy and goes on a killing spree.
3. The father dies at the end, because of the snow, and the family is saved!

I'm not comparing The Shining to The Lion King, but this is what you're basically doing here. If that is the level of involvement in a film for you, then I'm not sure who actually lacks intelligence, the filmmakers or the viewer.

No offence by the way. I know you're not stupid and I generally love your taste of films, but I just think your criticism towards and your arguments against this film's intelligence make absolutely no sense.


The movie is also rather medieval in terms of ideology, it even appears to favor a monarchical system of government. The characters are all made of cardboard without any complexity at all. Also, the life cycle and death of a parental figure are concepts recycled from Bambi, a film that I found considerably superior to The Lion King.

Well, despite being quite intellectually limited it still has tons of heart so I rate it as an above average movie but I didn't enjoy watching it as much as I though I should because the lack of complexity really made everything looks rather fake and forced.

You critisism on the monarchist theme surprises me. Why can Miyazaki films contain monarchs who are depicted in a positive way and Disney films not? That's ridiculous.
The whole royal concept of the The Lion King is merely a theme to support the statement of finding truth inside yourself (and not in a typical cliché way, I think), in my opinion. It isn't the one and onely subject of this film.

You still haven't answered my earlier post about the intelligence of the film and why a film like Castle in the Sky would be more intellectual.

[The Rodent]

^ Yeah that Shakespeare... always nicking ideas from Bambi...

[The Rodent]

Anyway, I think Ghibli, not Disney, needs to listen to Guap when it comes to recycling ideas... all of Ghibli's animation looks the same... like it's been recycled from film to film.

Show me a still from a Ghibli film, it could be any of them. Absolutely any of them.

Disney at least uses a range of animation and even makes live action films too.

[mark f]

Didn't realise we could vote for documentaries. Thought this was supposed to be a movies list.
??

[The Rodent]

^ Hoop Dreams is a documentary filmed over 5 years ^

[wintertriangles]

Didn't realise we could vote for documentaries. Thought this was supposed to be a movies list.Documentary is a sub-genre of film...why do I have to say this

[Thursday Next]

So pleased to see Underground! I voted for it at #4 on my list. I watched it for a tournament on here, and it bowled me over. Riveting, crazy, masterful, I loved it instantly.

For those who are still completely bemused by the lesser known movies making it, I've noticed a lot of movies on this list also made it into the '1001 movies to see before you die' list (including Hoop Dreams, Underground, A Brighter Summer Day, The Sweet Hereafter, Funny Games, Happiness, Heavenly Creatures, Farwell My Concubine, The Double Life of Veronique, Close Up, Naked Lunch and Babe). Now you can say what you like about the purpose and content of that list, but I think this does illustrate that just because something isn't on imdb's top 250, doesn't mean it's not critically acclaimed or that it's just two or three random deluded people on this board who think these are good films.

[Camo]

The millenium list continues its dominance on the 90s list. Now there are some great films that are truly in question here, which would really piss me off if they didn't make it.

How many films have you seen from this list so far?

[linespalsy]

Need to see Underground again. Didn't vote for it, but I did have another Kusturica film on my list (which I'm pretty sure won't make it.)

[rauldc14]

How many films have you seen from this list so far?

Not enough. I will probably rate them somewhat soon with what I have seen again.

[JayDee]

Not seen either of those last two but have fancied Hoop Dreams for a while. Not sure about Underground.

[rauldc14]

Why piss you off? The smallest the quantity of films that you watched on the list the better it is since it means that there are many great films you don't know about.

Yes, there is a chance. I guess that's what makes it fun. When it's all said and done most of my favorites probably make the list anyways, I just don't want some of my favorites to miss the cut, ALA Mystic River which was a shame for the millenium list.

[rauldc14]

I know we've been talking about an 80s countdown. I just can't wait till we get to a 50s or 40s countdown.

[weeman]

I know we've been talking about an 80s countdown. I just can't wait till we get to a 50s or 40s countdown.

10s countdown?

"And Number 1 is..... The Birth of a Nation!" :sick:

[wintertriangles]

10s countdown?

"And Number 1 is..... The Birth of a Nation!" :sick:I feel like either 20s or probably even 30s would be the last possible one since most of the 10s films are lost

[The Rodent]

We could eventually have a Top 21 Of The 1890s... :D

[jiraffejustin]

If the The House of the Devil doesn't win the 1890s I will leave the forum forever.

[wintertriangles]

It would be essentially a Méliès competition...SC would be disgusted, let's do it.

[jiraffejustin]

You know, that's not actually a bad idea. All of those Méliès shorts are pretty awesome.

[The Rodent]

70s - Jaws
60s - Psycho
50s - Rear Window

Sorted... no need to do those ones now.

[Tyler1]

I don't think I've even seen a film that was made before 1902.

[wintertriangles]

70s - Jaws
60s - Psycho
50s - Rear Window

Sorted... no need to do those ones now.Save your portents, faux-soothsayer, until the real competition.

[The Rodent]

I don't think I've even seen a film that was made before 1902.

L'Arrivée d'un train en gare de La Ciotat...

It'll blow your socks off...

[weeman]

We should just do a separate 90's list comprised of votes for films Sexy would approve of.

[wintertriangles]

We should just do a separate 90's list comprised of votes for films Sexy would approve of.Only if Yoda locks the thread so SC can't comment!

[The Rodent]

Most of us have never heard of the films he was watching in the 90s.

[weeman]

I'd probably like the list though :p (except Bio-Dome)

[jiraffejustin]

70s - Jaws
60s - Psycho
50s - Rear Window

Sorted... no need to do those ones now.

70s - Taxi Driver
60s - 2001: A Space Odyssey
50s - Seven Samurai

seems possible.

[Camo]

If the The House of the Devil doesn't win the 1890s I will leave the forum forever.

I just watched this. It's well edited for a film from the 19th Century :laugh:

[jiraffejustin]

I just watched this. It's well edited for a film from the 19th Century :laugh:

It's a blast, is it not? I won't pretend to know a lot about film history, but I think it's the first "horror" film. It's supposed to be pretty influential.

[Camo]

70s - Taxi Driver
60s - 2001: A Space Odyssey
50s - Seven Samurai

seems possible.

No idea how the 50s would end but i think Psycho and 2001: A Space Odyssey would be 1 and 2 in either order. I completely agree that Taxi Driver would top the 70s, after getting to know the members tastes better here i actually think it would have a good chance of topping an all time list.

It's a blast, is it not? I won't pretend to know a lot about film history, but I think it's the first "horror" film. It's supposed to be pretty influential.

I don't know much about film history either but i agree it's got to be the first horror. I liked it, it was funny and actually quite creepy with the creepy musc and knowing that all the people in that movie have been dead for a long time :eek:

[Camo]

Not enough. I will probably rate them somewhat soon with what I have seen again.

You can't exactly say whether the millennium list is better or not then can you? :rolleyes: People should start watching the films before criticizing them or just accept that they're on the list.

[Miss Vicky]

Sigh. I see my Multi-Quote instructional post did a lot of good. :rolleyes:

Come on people, it's not difficult. You can even use it to quote multiple posts from different pages of the thread.

[The Rodent]

But that would require going through different pages and clicking a button.

[Yoda]

She's right. :) It's not too hard.

In this case I went ahead and merged the first two together; the other one's reasonable since it's a different reply to a different person and it makes sense to separate them to avoid confusion.

[Camo]

Sigh. I see my Multi-Quote instructional post did a lot of good. :rolleyes:

Come on people, it's not difficult. You can even use it to quote multiple posts from different pages of the thread.

I didn't post all of those at the same time. When responding to this - 70s - Taxi Driver
60s - 2001: A Space Odyssey
50s - Seven Samurai

seems possible. I left my computer and by the time i came back and posted it this had been posted - It's a blast, is it not? I won't pretend to know a lot about film history, but I think it's the first "horror" film. It's supposed to be pretty influential. Anyway i apologize and thanks Yoda for editing my post.

[Deadite]

Post two more all-frikkin-ready! :bored:

[meatwadsprite]

You ain't see Hoop Dreams yet, than you aint nothing.

Second movie from my list to show up, had it at #3 I think.

[Guaporense]

I feel like either 20s or probably even 30s would be the last possible one since most of the 10s films are lost

But there are more than enough to do a top 100 since there are more than a hundred surviving 1910's films, though.

70s - Taxi Driver
60s - 2001: A Space Odyssey
50s - Seven Samurai

seems possible.

My bets:

1990's - Pulp Fiction
1980's - The Empire Strikes Back
1970's - The Godfather/Star Wars
1960's - Psycho/The Good the Bad and the Ugly/2001
1950's - Seven Samurai/Vertigo/Rear Window
1940's - Casablanca/Citizen Kane

[Guaporense]

Yes, there is a chance. I guess that's what makes it fun. When it's all said and done most of my favorites probably make the list anyways, I just don't want some of my favorites to miss the cut, ALA Mystic River which was a shame for the millenium list.

Well, Only Yesterday and Porco Rosso will not make the list though they are among my top 5 favorites of the 1990's. But I know too few members have watched these films so it's natural they are outside of the top 100. Whisper of the Heart was a positive surprise, though.

[Camo]

But there are more than enough to do a top 100 since there are more than a hundred surviving 1910's films, though.



My bets:

1990's - Pulp Fiction
1980's - The Empire Strikes Back
1970's - The Godfather/Star Wars
1960's - Psycho/The Good the Bad and the Ugly/2001
1950's - Seven Samurai/Vertigo/Rear Window
1940's - Casablanca/Citizen Kane

My guesses:

1990's - Pulp Fiction
1970's - Raiders of the lost ark
1960's - Psycho
1950's - Vertigo
1940's - Casablanca
1930's - City Lights?

[honeykid]

My guesses:
1930's - City Lights?

I disagree with a couple of the others, but if Gone With The Wind isn't the choice for the 30's, I'm not playing.:p

[Camo]

I disagree with a couple of the others, but if Gone With The Wind isn't the choice for the 30's, I'm not playing.:p

It would top my list without a doubt :D .

[jiraffejustin]

I haven't actually seen Gone With the Wind, I will have no doubt amended by the time a 30s countdown ever ran. For me though, King Kong, Duck Soup, M, Frankenstein, or (a dark horse I know, but I can dream) The Awful Truth would be acceptable #1s.

[Guaporense]

1st of the 1930's may be even M, or maybe a Mizoguchi film, if a lot of the people here who like foreign movies put they on top of their lists.

[Deadite]

Wizard of Oz. :randy:

[Harry Lime]

http://imageshack.us/a/img692/5628/qust.jpg

54. Trois couleurs: Rouge
(Krzysztof Kieslowski, 1994)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111495/

78 POINTS

[Harry Lime]

http://imageshack.us/a/img585/3920/7dj7.jpg

53. Toy Story 2
(John Lasseter and pals, 1999)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120363/

81 POINTS

[Harry Lime]

100. Con Air
99. The Hole
98. Speed
97. Beauty and the Beast
96. Edward Scissorhands
95. Show Me Love
94. The Sixth Sense
93. Short Cuts
92. Sling Blade
91. Heavenly Creatures
90. Dark City
89. Scream
88. The Sweet Hereafter
87. Rushmore
86. The Fifth Element
85. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
84. The Player
83. Point Break
82. Batman Returns
81. Farewell My Concubine
80. Close-Up
79. Naked Lunch
78. Fallen Angels
77. JFK
76. A Brighter Summer Day
75. Happiness
74. Starship Troopers
73. Life Is Beautiful
72. Donnie Brasco
71. All About My Mother
70. Before Sunrise
69. La Haine
68. Army of Darkness
67. The Nightmare Before Christmas
66. Trois couleurs: Bleu
65. Whisper of the Heart
64. The Boondock Saints
63. Funny Games
62. As Good as It Gets
61. Twelve Monkeys
60. Babe
59. Dumb and Dumber
58. The Double Life of Veronique
57. The Lion King
56. Underground
55. Hoop Dreams
54. Trois couleurs: Rouge
53. Toy Story 2

[Miss Vicky]

I'll never quite understand the insane love for the Toy Story movies. I like them well enough but they're not favorites.

Haven't seen Red.

[cricket]

Another pair that I just have no interest in watching. Can't say it's not an interesting list though.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Red. Like the color of my RAGE over this list.

[Guaporense]

See, Three Colors Red went higher than Blue, even though I though that everybody was set to vote for Blue representing the trilogy. :)

[mark f]

Both very good movies, but I didn't vote for them.

[donniedarko]

I like Red, I love Blue. But Red did have a dazzling score, awesome visuals, and a better first act. It does have a lot of great scenes, like when she listens to the conversations, and the scene in the CD store was solid. I'd be surprised if White shows up. Toy Story 2 I watch a long time ago.

[Harry Lime]

See, Three Colors Red went higher than Blue, even though I though that everybody was set to vote for Blue representing the trilogy. :)

It didn't seem like everyone was committed so I think that idea fell through.

[honeykid]

I'm with donnie in liking Red, but loving Blue. I didn't vote for it, but it's a very good film.

Toy Story 2 is the best of the series, IMO, so it's sad but completely predictable that the first will appear higher. Probably much higher.

It's been a while I had something show up from my list. Still think there'll be a good few, though.

[Deadite]

http://i.qkme.me/3pz0i9.jpg

[Sexy Celebrity]

Am I the only person left who hasn't had a movie from their list appear on this list, yet?!

[Miss Vicky]

Am I the only person left who hasn't had a movie from their list appear on this list, yet?!

Possibly.

I'm still at 4 movies voted for and have seen 25/48 listed films. And of the two movies we both voted for, I think only one will make the list.

[The Gunslinger45]

I have had two movies appear so far. So yeah I think so SC

As for the two movies, I have not seen Toy Story 2, but I liked Red the best out of the Three Colors Trilogy.

Also I am 21 of 48.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Never cared for the Toy Story movies. Haven't seen them since the '90s, though. Haven't seen part 3, yet. I remember going to see Toy Story 2 at the movies and - this will be surprising - I annoyed someone I saw it with because apparently I talked too much during the movie in annoyance of it.

[Thursday Next]

Two movies that are the best of their respective trilogies.

I had Red on my list at #25. Really good movie.

I liked Toy Story 2 a lot when I first saw it, I found all the movie references funny. I can't stand the song, though.

[Daniel M]

I'm with donnie in liking Red, but loving Blue. I didn't vote for it, but it's a very good film.

Toy Story 2 is the best of the series, IMO, so it's sad but completely predictable that the first will appear higher. Probably much higher.

It's been a while I had something show up from my list. Still think there'll be a good few, though.

Whilst I haven't seen any of the Three Colours films, I completely agree with your opinion on the Toy Story films, whilst I enjoy all three of the trilogy, for me, the second film is definitely superior to the other two, and it made it on to my list, the first didn't.

The plot with Al is creative and much more enjoyable for me than the first film, and we have a load of more interesting other characters like Pete the Prospector and Jessie.

[Cobpyth]

100. Con Air - Not seen
99. Dong aka The Hole - Not seen
98. Speed - 3
97. Beauty and the Beast - 3.5
96. Edward Scissorhands - 4
95. F#cking Amal aka Show Me Love - Not Seen
94. The Sixth Sense - 4
93. Short Cuts - 4.5 (MY LIST)
92. Sling Blade - Not Seen
91. Heavenly Creatures - Not Seen
90. Dark City - Not Seen
89. Scream - 3.5
88. The Sweet Hereafter - Not Seen
87. Rushmore - 3.5
86. The Fifth Element - 3.5+
85. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Not Seen
84. The Player - 5 (MY LIST)
83. Point Break - Not Seen
82. Batman Returns - 3
81. Farewell My Concubine - 4
80. Nema-ye Nazdik aka Close-Up - Not Seen
79. Naked Lunch - Not Seen
78. Duo luo tian shi aka Fallen Angels - Not Seen
77. JFK - Not Seen
76. A Brighter Summer Day - Not Seen
75. Happiness - 3.5
74. Starship Troopers - Not Seen
73. Life Is Beautiful - Not Seen
72. Donnie Brasco - Not Seen
71. All About My Mother - 3.5(+)
70. Before Sunrise - 3.5(+)
69. La Haine - Not Seen
68. Army of Darkness - Not Seen
67. The Nightmare Before Christmas - 3.5(+)
66. Trois couleurs: Bleu - Not Seen
65. Whisper of the Heart - Not Seen – 3.5(+)
64. The Boondock Saints - Not Seen
63. Funny Games - Not Seen
62. As Good as It Gets - 3.5(-)
61. Twelve Monkeys - 4+ (MY LIST)
60. Babe - Not Seen
59. Dumb and Dumber - Not Seen
58. The Double Life of Veronique - Not Seen
57. The Lion King - 4+
56. Underground - Not Seen
55. Hoop Dreams - Not Seen
54. Trois couleurs: Rouge - Not Seen
53. Toy Story 2 - 4

Toy Story 2 is my second favorite from the trilogy (3 is the best, in my opinion), but it is much more interesting than the first one in terms of storyline.
The creativity of the film is limitless and the presented topic is entertaining and meaningful at the same time.
I love the series as a whole, but Toy Story 2 is the moment when it captured my love for the first time.

I really need to see the Three Colors Trilogy...

[jiraffejustin]

So far three of my movies have showed up, but I am start to regret not voting for Toy Story 2, Army of Darkness, and JFK. I had Edward Scissorhands at 22, Funny Games at 15, and Underground at 6.


And I've seen only 15 so far.

[Camo]

I can't really remember Toy Story 2 since i've not seen it since i was a kid, i remember enjoying it at the time though. Red is my favourite of the trilogy it could have easily made it onto my list. I doubt White will make it onto the list now, which doesn't really bother me because i don't think it's anwhere near as good as Red or Blue.

Watched - 26/48
My list - 3/25

[Skepsis93]

I like both of those, especially Toy Story 2. Didn't vote for either though.

[Nostromo87]

My bets:

1990's - Pulp Fiction
1980's - The Empire Strikes Back
1970's - The Godfather/Star Wars
1960's - Psycho/The Good the Bad and the Ugly/2001
1950's - Seven Samurai/Vertigo/Rear Window
1940's - Casablanca/Citizen Kane

looks like pretty accurate bets

here are my picks as "strong bets." making myself choose just one from each decade

20's: Metropolis
30's: It Happened One Night
40's: Casablanca
50's: Seven Samurai
60's: the Good, the Bad & the Ugly
70's: Star Wars
80's: Raiders of the Lost Ark
90's: GoodFellas

the following would be my personal picks at the moment

20's: Nosferatu
30's: Angels with Dirty Faces
40's: the Maltese Falcon
50's: Sunset Blvd
60's: Psycho
70's: Halloween
80's: a Nightmare on Elm Street
90's: GoodFellas

the 70's were really hard to pick just one... could've easily picked Taxi Driver, Alien, or Star Wars as my choice. but in the end had to go with Halloween :)

[jal90]

Anyway, I think Ghibli, not Disney, needs to listen to Guap when it comes to recycling ideas... all of Ghibli's animation looks the same... like it's been recycled from film to film.

Show me a still from a Ghibli film, it could be any of them. Absolutely any of them.

Disney at least uses a range of animation and even makes live action films too.
You can't compare them. Ghibli was founded by two directores who share a huge portion of their career and influence, and are the main ddirectores as well as having a lot of direct control on the rest of the works. Miyazaki and Takahata have a very clear style and they follow it. If you want variety in the studio (there is), you'll have to dig deeper; the music videos of Momose, "The night of Taneyamagahara", Iblard jikan", some long movies like "My neighbors the Yamadas" or "Ocean waves" have different artstyles but it's not the norm. Disney has a kind of common philosophy too but not -at all- in the same personal level of involvement.

[jal90]

By the way, sorry for my grammar mistakes ("directors" as "directores" and such), I'm writing from a tablet/phone these days and damn autocorrect is damn.

[Frightened Inmate No. 2]

Toy Story 2 was 4th on my list. Disappointed to see it so low, but glad it made the list.

[Godoggo]

By the way, sorry for my grammar mistakes ("directors" as "directores" and such), I'm writing from a tablet/phone these days and damn autocorrect is damn.

It's embarrassed me more than once. On my dog training forum autocorrect turned a word I had apparently misspelled into something very unfortunate and I didn't catch it until too late. The word was sodomizing. :blush:

Back on topic: I haven't seen Red (or any of the colors). I really like Toy Story but it didn't stick with me as a childhood favorite like some other movies did.

[stevo3001]

I think I'll start going through these 10 by 10:

100. Con Air - One of my favourite action movies of the 90s; in fact one of the very few American action movies I like. The plot is propulsive but much more important are the characters. Well 'character' is probably too strong a word- there's no depth or realism here- and maybe a better term is 'gimmick', as in wrestling. And just as in wrestling, there may be no substance to the gimmick but if it's strong enough and played by someone charismatic enough (and the cast here- Malkovich, Buscemi, Rhames, Cusack, Trejo, Meaney, Cage- is overflowing with charisma) then the result can be a load of stupid fun. (I saw Pacific Rim recently- if that had a tenth of the gimmick power of this it would have been an absolute gem). Not too far off my list and makes The Rock and most other action films look terminally bland.

99. Dong aka The Hole - Not seen yet

98. Speed - One of those action films that look bland next to Con Air. Ah I suppose it's better than most, it's a pretty good idea.

97. Beauty and the Beast - I love Gaston and especially his theme song. Also See My Vest is possibly my favourite song from the Simpsons.

96. Edward Scissorhands - Burton and Depp have so worn out their schtick that's it hard to remember how sweet and charming this felt then.

95. F#cking Amal aka Show Me Love- MY LIST: 6- Lukas Moodysson has ('had', I fear) such a lovely way with characters that when he made their lives turn out well the result was wonderfully feelgood. (He did that again in Tillsammans, which was even higher on my Millennium list.) But what I love most about this movie is that no film I have ever seen got closer to how it feels to grow up in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere. The pathetic passing of time at each other's houses, the friends who were just the best you could do from an limited population, the search for absolutely anything that could possibly alter your mind state enough to forget how boring the place was, and so much else- it was Sweden but it could just as well have been my little village in Wales.

94. The Sixth Sense - I found the twist unavoidably obvious and found nothing else of any interest in this movie (or in any of the rest of Shyamalan's crappy ouevre, for that matter).

93. Short Cuts - One of Altman's better films, I will certainly watch again before long.

92. Sling Blade - Is Billy Bob's career making character so good that its vehicle deserves a place among the top 100 films of a decade? Yeah quite possibly.

91. Heavenly Creatures - Definitely above average.

[stevo3001]

90. Dark City - Continuing the Millennium list trend of mediocre sci-fi movies getting totally undeserved mentions.

89. Scream - A pretty good concept carried through well.

88. The Sweet Hereafter - Crushingly sad, well acted. I don't know that I could watch this since I moved to Canada and my son was born.

87. Rushmore - I have very much of a love/hate thing with Wes Anderson, and I dislike more of his movies than I like so far. I like this one a lot. Schwartzmann is brilliant, the dialogue is good, it manages to be light enough and well enough constructed, and the school play is great. No Fantastic Mr Fox maybe, but Anderson's next best movie.

86. The Fifth Element - Continuing the Millennium list trend of absolutely dire sci-fi movies getting totally undeserved mentions.

85. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - There's only been one good British gangster movie since the 80s, and it's Sexy Beast. This I suppose is one of the tiny number that isn't totally shite, hard as that is to admit about a Guy Ritchie film.

84. The Player - Another of the better Altman movies.

83. Point Break - Not seen yet

82. Batman Returns - 'Bottom line, she tries to blackmail me, I'll drop her out a higher window. Meantime, I got better fish to fry.' Deserves its place for Walken's delivery of that line. Not nearly as good as Burton's first, but has a case as the second best Batman movie because of the visuals and villains.

81. Farewell My Concubine - Ambitious, beautiful, very good.

[Thursday Next]

95. F#cking Amal aka Show Me Love- MY LIST: 6- Lukas Moodysson has ('had', I fear) such a lovely way with characters that when he made their lives turn out well the result was wonderfully feelgood. (He did that again in Tillsammans, which was even higher on my Millennium list.) But what I love most about this movie is that no film I have ever seen got closer to how it feels to grow up in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere. The pathetic passing of time at each other's houses, the friends who were just the best you could do from an limited population, the search for absolutely anything that could possibly alter your mind state enough to forget how boring the place was, and so much else- it was Sweden but it could just as well have been my little village in Wales.


I think you have nailed what is so good about this film.

It's a perfect example of how 'realistic' doesn't have to mean 'bleak and depressing'.

[Guaporense]

looks like pretty accurate bets

here are my picks as "strong bets." making myself choose just one from each decade

20's: Metropolis
30's: It Happened One Night
40's: Casablanca
50's: Seven Samurai
60's: the Good, the Bad & the Ugly
70's: Star Wars
80's: Raiders of the Lost Ark
90's: GoodFellas

the following would be my personal picks at the moment

20's: Nosferatu
30's: Angels with Dirty Faces
40's: the Maltese Falcon
50's: Sunset Blvd
60's: Psycho
70's: Halloween
80's: a Nightmare on Elm Street
90's: GoodFellas

the 70's were really hard to pick just one... could've easily picked Taxi Driver, Alien, or Star Wars as my choice. but in the end had to go with Halloween :)

My personal picks:

20's: The Passion of Joan D'Arc
30's: M
40's: Late Spring
50's: Ikiru
60's: 2001: A Space Odyssey
70's: Stalker
80's: My Neighbor Totoro
90's: PM

Am I the only person left who hasn't had a movie from their list appear on this list, yet?!

I have got one from mine (65th place). :D Don't worry, I am sure that T2 will show up in the future so you will have a movie from your list on the top 100.

[stevo3001]

80. Nema-ye Nazdik aka Close-Up - Most interesting as an innovative, rule-shattering experiment, or just to see what Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was up to before he took up politics? Worth seeing either way.

79. Naked Lunch - Not seen yet

78. Duo luo tian shi aka Fallen Angels - Not seen yet

77. JFK - A torrent of utter bunk. Pretty exciting as a movie though, if worthless as 'history'.

76. A Brighter Summer Day - Not one of my favourite films of the decade, but certainly one of the most impressive.

75. Happiness - Horrible, depressing, and not far from my list. A few great scenes and great lines, the best of which fall to Jon Lovitz and Jane Adams.

74. Starship Troopers - I've just remembered that this, along with Con Air, is one of two movies that I first saw in the little cinema on the ferry to Ireland. Did the boat rocking and smashing about on the waves make for a more immersively physical experience? Did sea sickness make the bugs and the Nazis all the more stomach churning? Anyway I never quite know how much credit to give this film, but I guess I believe that it is a knowing and fairly smart satire as well as decent action and funny.

73. Life Is Beautiful - Absolute claptrap and offensive as hell.

72. Donnie Brasco - Superior gangster movie. Obviously not on the Godfather I & II/Goodfellas level, but compares favourably to almost all the rest of the Hollywood mob films of the last few decades. Excellent performances.

71. All About My Mother - MY LIST: 11 - Almodovar's best film, I think. Delirious, raw, spectacular, heartfelt, wild, touching.

[Camo]

My personal picks:

20's: The Passion of Joan D'Arc
30's: M
40's: Late Spring
50's: Ikiru
60's: 2001: A Space Odyssey
70's: Stalker
80's: My Neighbor Totoro
90's: PM



I have got one from mine (65th place). :D Don't worry, I am sure that T2 will show up in the future so you will have a movie from your list on the top 100.

My picks would be:

30's: Gone With The Wind
40's: The Third Man
50's: North By Northwest
60's: Once Upon a Time in the West
70's: Taxi Driver
80's: Platoon
90's: Unforgiven
00's: There Will Be Blood

[stevo3001]

70. Before Sunrise - It's a sweet two-parter. Three, I guess- have to watch the third.

69. La Haine - Fairly good. Decent amount of style.

68. Army of Darkness - A great idea and an unimprovable lead. Crazy thrilling.

67. The Nightmare Before Christmas - Sweet and made for a lot of nice merchandise. Not really any more than a pretty good film though.

66. Trois couleurs: Bleu - Good, but not my favourite couleur.

65. Whisper of the Heart - Ghibli was on fire in this decade, when it was still in the best form of any animated studio ever, before Pixar surpassed even their incredible standards in the next decade. This one is forgettable compared to most of the rest though.

64. The Boondock Saints - Absolute shite. Really really terrible movie in every possible aspect. Any gang of people just grabbed off any street in the world and giving movie equipment would almost certainly do much better than this laughable ********. Made by total incompetents who had just two thoughts in their heads- '"Irish" gangsters are cool' and 'Samuel L Jackson's "know my name is the Lord" speech is cool' and absolutely no ability whatsoever. Could quite possibly be the worst-made movie ever to make any significant money. I hate this movie.

63. Funny Games - Self-impressed but actually pretty uninteresting advert for Dogme.

62. As Good as It Gets - A few good lines.

61. Twelve Monkeys - See number 90 about mediocre scifi films.

[mark f]

The Boondock Saints made $30,000 at the box office. Millions in DVD sales but just sayin'. :)

[stevo3001]

The Boondock Saints made $30,000 at the box office. Millions in DVD sales but just sayin'. :)

At least $30,000 more in box office takings than it should have made :mad:

[Sexy Celebrity]

I want one of my movies to show up! I'm furious. I'm like a fire-breathing dragon over this.

http://image.blingee.com/images19/content/output/000/000/000/7a6/762609334_526258.gif

[Deadite]

I want one of my movies to show up! I'm furious. I'm like a fire-breathing dragon over this.

http://image.blingee.com/images19/content/output/000/000/000/7a6/762609334_526258.gif

You mad, bro? :furiousdevil:

[Guaporense]

Don't worry, your top 25 will show up all on the top 25!

[Sexy Celebrity]

You mad, bro? :furiousdevil:

Wow, that could be taken as a fire-breathing dragon rather than a devil.

[gandalf26]

I'm still 0/48

[The Gunslinger45]

I'm still 0/48

None of your showed up either?

[Guaporense]

Probably, because I believe he watched many of these films.

[Guaporense]

You can't compare them. Ghibli was founded by two directores who share a huge portion of their career and influence, and are the main ddirectores as well as having a lot of direct control on the rest of the works. Miyazaki and Takahata have a very clear style and they follow it. If you want variety in the studio (there is), you'll have to dig deeper; the music videos of Momose, "The night of Taneyamagahara", Iblard jikan", some long movies like "My neighbors the Yamadas" or "Ocean waves" have different artstyles but it's not the norm. Disney has a kind of common philosophy too but not -at all- in the same personal level of involvement.

Also, he was talking about art style elements like character design. But of course Miyazaki's films all share the same general art style such as character designs, but you cannot say that's "recycling", in the same way all live action films share the same "character designs" (i.e. real people) and general "art style" (photographic realism).

Recycling in the context of reusing plot structures is an altogether different thing. And in these terms it is obvious to anyone with some brainwave activity that Miyazaki's work is anything but recycled.

[mark f]

Some people here are apparently dead to you.

[jal90]

Also, he was talking about art style elements like character design. But of course Miyazaki's films all share the same general art style such as character designs, but you cannot say that's "recycling", in the same way all live action films share the same "character designs" (i.e. real people) and general "art style" (photographic realism).

Recycling in the context of reusing plot structures is an altogether different thing. And in these terms it is obvious to anyone with some brainwave activity that Miyazaki's work is anything but recycled.
Hmmm, I disagree. Actually it is very easy to find common threads in Miyazaki movies. And these patterns and obsessions are what define his artistic trajectory and what made me a fan after all. Anyway on the other hand having an artstyle and being loyal to it might be a flaw when there isn't a personal involvement. Ghibli is certainly not the case so that's why I disagreed with The Rodent before.

[Camo]

Also, he was talking about art style elements like character design. But of course Miyazaki's films all share the same general art style such as character designs, but you cannot say that's "recycling", in the same way all live action films share the same "character designs" (i.e. real people) and general "art style" (photographic realism).

Recycling in the context of reusing plot structures is an altogether different thing. And in these terms it is obvious to anyone with some brainwave activity that Miyazaki's work is anything but recycled.

So anyone who doesn't agree with you on Miyazaki has no brain :rolleyes: . I haven't been here for long but from what i have observed so far, The Rodent is one of the most frequent and admired members here. Great achievement imo for someone without brain activity :rolleyes: . One thing i'll say is i respect his opinion alot more than the opinion of Miyizaki preacher/holier than thou guy.

[HitchFan97]

Wow, guess the Kieslowski vote was split three ways. Toy Story 2 was on my list, a major childhood favorite that still holds up. I don't know a whole lot about animation, but it may be my favorite animated movie.

[Harry Lime]

http://imageshack.us/a/img823/6494/8hg1.jpg


52. Breaking the Waves
(Lars von Trier, 1996)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115751/

83 POINTS

[Harry Lime]

http://imageshack.us/a/img834/7613/kile.jpg

51. Hana-bi aka Fireworks
(Takeshi Kitano, 1997)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119250/

83 POINTS

[Harry Lime]

100. Con Air
99. The Hole
98. Speed
97. Beauty and the Beast
96. Edward Scissorhands
95. Show Me Love
94. The Sixth Sense
93. Short Cuts
92. Sling Blade
91. Heavenly Creatures
90. Dark City
89. Scream
88. The Sweet Hereafter
87. Rushmore
86. The Fifth Element
85. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
84. The Player
83. Point Break
82. Batman Returns
81. Farewell My Concubine
80. Close-Up
79. Naked Lunch
78. Fallen Angels
77. JFK
76. A Brighter Summer Day
75. Happiness
74. Starship Troopers
73. Life Is Beautiful
72. Donnie Brasco
71. All About My Mother
70. Before Sunrise
69. La Haine
68. Army of Darkness
67. The Nightmare Before Christmas
66. Trois couleurs: Bleu
65. Whisper of the Heart
64. The Boondock Saints
63. Funny Games
62. As Good as It Gets
61. Twelve Monkeys
60. Babe
59. Dumb and Dumber
58. The Double Life of Veronique
57. The Lion King
56. Underground
55. Hoop Dreams
54. Trois couleurs: Rouge
53. Toy Story 2
52. Breaking the Waves
51. Hana-bi

[Miss Vicky]

Sigh.

Voted For: 4/50
Seen: 25/50

[Cobpyth]

Haven't seen both, but I'm watching Breaking the Waves tomorrow. It's been on my watchlist for way too long. This is the final push I needed to finally see it. I enjoyed Von Trier's other work so far (Dancer in the Dark, Antichrist, Melancholia).

[donniedarko]

I've wanted to see Breaking the Waves, I don't think that I've ever heard of the other one

[wintertriangles]

I thought Breaking The Waves was the ultimate in depressing films until I saw Dancer in the Dark. I've never seen Emily Watson top that performance.

Never seen Fireworks surprisingly, though I did have a Kitano film in my list.

[Guaporense]

2 from my list thus far

Fireworks made it too! Interestingly, the only two movies from my list to appear up to now were Japanese movies. That's because the other ones are well known popular english language movies and these will appear at the top 30-25.

[honeykid]

Never did get around to watching Breaking The Waves, but it's one of the few films on the list, so far, that I've not seen and yet wouldn't mind seeing.

Hanna-Bi is pretty good. For some reason it's a film which doesn't seem to do as well as a memory, as it does when I actually watch it. :D

Before SC gets in here, though, these are both definitely 90's films. Not mainstream 90's, I'll grant you, but I and a good few of my friends were watching this in the 90's and this was without the internet/cheap dvd's or the interest there is now in cinema.

[cricket]

That's a pair I have no interest in. In fact, I have no interest in 9 out of the last 10 picks. I don't want it to seem like I'm complaining but I must say the first half of the list seems odd to me. I'm sure most of these films are of excellent quality, I just don't think a lot of them have much appeal to the average person.

Although interesting and talented, I don't think I'm a fan of Lars Von Trier.

[Camo]

Never heard of the second one. Breakng The Waves i should've seen already, since i've told myself that it will be my first Von Trier film.

[Sexy Celebrity]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbHwbgIELCc

[Guaporense]

Hmmm, I disagree. Actually it is very easy to find common threads in Miyazaki movies. And these patterns and obsessions are what define his artistic trajectory and what made me a fan after all.

I find each of his movies to be very, very different from the others. Unlike Ozu's films, for instance, which vary in terms of tone but are very similar to one another.

Of course, you find "common threads" in the works of any artist, that's his signature, but that was not my argument. For example, PM and Totoro are both set in rural Japan and feature a certain adoration for the natural environment but they are very different movies and each of these two films show a very, very high degree of originality (specially Totoro, which is an unique film: nothing quite like it exists even today).

[Mingusings]

Breaking the Waves is in my top 10. I love it like none other. Brilliant and depressing.

[The Gunslinger45]

Still only have two form my list.

[cricket]

Still only have two form my list.

Me too; I still think I'll get like 15 in, but I was hoping to get a couple low key faves in, rather then the ones almost everyone voted for.

[The Gunslinger45]

Me too; I still think I'll get like 15 in, but I was hoping to get a couple low key faves in, rather then the ones almost everyone voted for.

Yeah I got more then a few that I am sure will show up much later.

[Guaporense]

Me too. I voted for many popular favorites. I think I will try to include more obscure films for my top 25 for the 1980's.

[cricket]

Me too. I voted for many popular favorites. I think I will try to include more obscure films for my top 25 for the 1980's.

I'm curious to see how that works out, as we go further back in time.

[rauldc14]

This is all so strange to me.........

[Guaporense]

I'm curious to see how that works out, as we go further back in time.

The further back we go the less movies we know and so the more obscure the top 100 lists will be. The top 100 of the 1950's will be full of strange films and will have perhaps half a dozen Hitchcock and half a dozen Kurosawa films.

[rauldc14]

The further back we go the less movies we know and so the more obscure the top 100 lists will be. The top 100 of the 1950's will be full of strange films and will have perhaps half a dozen Hitchcock and half a dozen Kurosawa films.

and that's perfectly fine with me.

[Harry Lime]

I just don't think a lot of them have much appeal to the average person.
I take it by "average person" you mean the average moviegoer? Those people usually don't join movie forums and spend all this time watching films and making lists about movies. We are not average, so assuming this would be a 90's list similar to imdb's top 250 doesn't make any sense.

[Deadite]

Zomg list sux allcaps exclamation point exclamation point one.

[Godoggo]

Breaking the Waves is a great film. It's one of those that sticks with you for a long time.

Not seen the other one.

[Sane]

Hana-bi was number 5 on my list. Actually surprised to see it so high - thought it probably wouldn't make it at all. Great movie with excellent chemistry between Kitano's character and his wife.

[jal90]

I am surprised to see that people didn't even know about Hana-bi at all... It's Kitano. He was one of the very first directors I ever heard of when I got.into cinema seriously, and he has a certain mainstream appeal. This is one of his most well known.

[Thursday Next]

Breaking the Waves was on my list at #5. I wasn't sure I liked it the first time I watched it, but it really stayed with me, a powerful, devastating movie with a fantastic performance from Emily Watson. With this, as with Dancer in the Dark, there's genuine emotion and connection with the characters rather than the sometimes smug gimmickry of some of Von Trier's films.

Hana-Bi I've been meaning to watch for a while, so I'd better get on with that.

Seen 37/50
Voted for 5

[Daniel M]

Seeing as we're at a half way point.

100. Con Air 3.5 LIST
99. The Hole
98. Speed 3.5
97. Beauty and the Beast 3
96. Edward Scissorhands 2.5
95. Show Me Love
94. The Sixth Sense 3
93. Short Cuts 3.5
92. Sling Blade
91. Heavenly Creatures
90. Dark City
89. Scream 4 LIST
88. The Sweet Hereafter
87. Rushmore 3.5
86. The Fifth Element
85. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels 3.5
84. The Player 4 LIST
83. Point Break 3.5
82. Batman Returns
81. Farewell My Concubine
80. Close-Up
79. Naked Lunch
78. Fallen Angels
77. JFK
76. A Brighter Summer Day
75. Happiness
74. Starship Troopers
73. Life is Beautiful
72. Donnie Brasco 3.5
71. All About My Mother
70. Before Sunrise
69. La Haine
68. Army of Darkness
67. The Nightmare Before Christmas
66. Three Colours: Blue
65. Whisper of the Heart
64. The Boondock Saints
63. Funny Games
62. As Good as It Gets
61. Twelve Monkeys
60. Babe 3
59. Dumb and Dumber 2
58. The Double Life of Veronique
57. The Lion King 3.5
56. Underground
55. Hoop Dreams
54. Trois couleurs: Rouge
53. Toy Story 2 4.5 LIST
52. Breaking the Waves
51. Hana-Bi

A poor 16/50 seen, with 4/25 of my list making it so far.

[The Rodent]

I haven't seen either of the last two... :(

[teeter_g]

Call me a snob, but I hope the top 50 is better. :)

[Cobpyth]

Call me a snob, but I hope the top 50 is better. :)

You're pretty much the opposite of a snob. :p

[cricket]

I take it by "average person" you mean the average moviegoer? Those people usually don't join movie forums and spend all this time watching films and making lists about movies. We are not average, so assuming this would be a 90's list similar to imdb's top 250 doesn't make any sense.

I completely understand and agree; I have seen many films since joining this forum that I loved, that I never would've tried otherwise. I think that's the best thing about this forum. But I still can't help my surprise when some of these pop up. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I put films on my own list that I never expected to see.

[Nausicaä]

So far I've seen 40 of the films in the list and 7 of them appear on my voting list if I remember right.

[The Rodent]

I'm at 42/50, with 7 from my list as well...

[cricket]

The further back we go the less movies we know and so the more obscure the top 100 lists will be. The top 100 of the 1950's will be full of strange films and will have perhaps half a dozen Hitchcock and half a dozen Kurosawa films.

That's what part of me is thinking. The other part of me wonders if the opposite is true due to the fact that the younger members weren't renting movies or going to the movies during that time, and can have only seen what they've heard of.

I think the 80's list will have more action/horror/comedy films but who knows. I'm continually surprised by the refined taste of many members here.

[stevo3001]

60. Babe-Rather adorable little film.
59. Dumb and Dumber- Never found Jim Carrey particularly funny. This one is a little better than most of his pure comedy vehicles, maybe one good laugh.
58. The Double Life of Veronique- Minor Kieslowski, still fascinating.
57. The Lion King Rating- MY LIST: 14- I would rate this alongside Princess and the Frog as the best Disney movies since their 'revival' began.
56. Underground- Never really got into this.
55. Hoop Dreams- MY LIST: 4- Unflinching, eye-opening epic with an immense power that will only continue to grow.
54. Trois couleurs: Rouge- Good, but also not my favourite coleur.
53. Toy Story 2- MY LIST: 8- The first film in one of the greatest creative golden periods in cinema. Rare heart and soul and one of the great ensembles.
52. Breaking the Waves- Lars von Trier is such a scumbag. This is unmistakably the work of a disgusting man, and I hate the film. Emily Watson is great and the whole revolting thing is well-directed. Indeed there's a ton of talent on display; I'm sure it is the Devil's idea of a really good film.
51. Hana-Bi- Very good, think I'll watch this again.

[gandalf26]

FINALLY! Hana Bi voted for by me. My first entry to show up.

1/50 films now lol. Though I reckon the top 50 will have at least 21-22 more of my picks.

Who else voted for Hana Bi? Glad there are some Kitano fans out there.

http://file.gfl.blog.shinobi.jp/hana_bi.jpg

[gandalf26]

Glad to hear it. Hana Bi and Zatoichi are his best work imo. I take it you're a fan of Kitano then.

[the samoan lawyer]

Didnt get a list in but Hana-Bi definately would have been up there.

[the samoan lawyer]

Hell, i probably would have had Kikujiro on there too!!

[Camo]

100. Con Air Rating: 6/10
99. The Hole
98. Speed Rating: 6.5/10
97. Beauty and the Beast 6.5/10
96. Edward Scissorhands 6.5/10
95. Show Me Love
94. The Sixth Sense Rating 7/10
93. Short Cuts
92. Sling Blade 9/10
91. Heavenly Creatures 7.5/10
90. Dark City
89. Scream Rating 7.5/10
88. The Sweet Hereafter 7.5/10
87. Rushmore Rating 8.5/10
86. The Fifth Element
85. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels 8/10
84. The Player
83. Point Break
82. Batman Returns 6.5/10
81. Farewell My Concubine
80. Close-Up
79. Naked Lunch
78. Fallen Angels
77. JFK 8.5/10
76. A Brighter Summer Day
75. Happiness
74. Starship Troopers 6/10
73. Life is Beautiful
72. Donnie Brasco 8/10
71. All About My Mother 9/10 (list)
70. Before Sunrise 7.5/10
69. La Haine
68. Army of Darkness
67. The Nightmare Before Christmas
66. Three Colours: Blue 8/10
65. Whisper of the Heart
64. The Boondock Saints 7/10
63. Funny Games 8/10
62. As Good as It Gets 8.5/10 (list)
61. Twelve Monkeys
60. Babe 7.5/10
59. Dumb and Dumber 7.5/10
58. The Double Life of Veronique
57. The Lion King 8.5/10 (list)
56. Underground
55. Hoop Dreams
54. Trois couleurs: Rouge 8.5/10
53. Toy Story 2 7.5/10
52. Breaking the Waves
51. Hana-Bi

Seen: 26/50
List: 3/25

[Thursday Next]

(Trying this whole multi-quote thing out...)

The further back we go the less movies we know and so the more obscure the top 100 lists will be. The top 100 of the 1950's will be full of strange films and will have perhaps half a dozen Hitchcock and half a dozen Kurosawa films.

I think it will be the exact opposite. The further back we go, the fewer films from the decade people will have seen and the ones they have seen are more likely to be the same ones -- the ones from all the other lists.

Of course there are some people who only watch Hollywood films of the last two decades and probably think anything showing up on a 1950s list is obscure, whether it is directed by Hitchcock, Kurosawa or whoever.

Call me a snob, but I hope the top 50 is better. :)

If snob is the word for someone who doesn't like movies because they haven't seen them... ;)

I think it's kind of the default that the next 50 will be better (however you define that). That being the idea when you have a countdown going from 100 to 1. The next 50 will be the more popular choices, because they will be the ones that garnered the most votes.

Personally I think this first 50 has been great, a real spread of films, and I'm looking forward to the next bunch.

I have seen many films since joining this forum that I loved, that I never would've tried otherwise. I think that's the best thing about this forum.

I think that's great. It's exactly what I love about this forum, and about lists like this. But if you believe that, it does make it all the more strange that you keep saying you have no interest in watching the films that have turned up on this list. Why not give some of them a chance too?

[Deadite]

I find movies I don't know strange and threatening! :eek:

[Nausicaä]

Who else voted for Hana Bi? Glad there are some Kitano fans out there.

I didn't vote for it but it's my favourite film from Kitano.

[cricket]

(Trying this whole multi-quote thing out...)


I think that's great. It's exactly what I love about this forum, and about lists like this. But if you believe that, it does make it all the more strange that you keep saying you have no interest in watching the films that have turned up on this list. Why not give some of them a chance too?

I put some on my to see list; La Haine, Twelve Monkeys, and Short Cuts. I also just taped Wonder Boys after seeing it on the millennium list. But for some of these movies, the subject matter just doesn't interest me. I'm also not interested in children's films so that's a few that get crossed out for me. There may be different reasons for others; I'm not interested in Breaking the Waves because I don't like the director. When I say I'm not interested, it doesn't mean I think they're crappy movies. It just means they're not for me.

[Deadite]

Von Trier isn't for everyone, that's for sure.

[Harry Lime]

http://imageshack.us/a/img571/7651/6hu5.jpg

50. Total Recall
(Paul Verhoeven, 1990)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100802/

90 POINTS

[Harry Lime]

http://imageshack.us/a/img405/7568/jmq0.jpg

49. Ed Wood
(Tim Burton, 1994)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109707/

90 POINTS

[Skepsis93]

Voted for neither but I have seen Ed Wood. Meh.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Glad to see Schwarzenegger, but it isn't my Kindergarten Cop!

[The Rodent]

Get in!

Had Total Recall at 7th... that makes 8 from my list now :D

Wasn't keen on Ed Wood though... well made, just not my sort of film.

[Harry Lime]

100. Con Air
99. The Hole
98. Speed
97. Beauty and the Beast
96. Edward Scissorhands
95. Show Me Love
94. The Sixth Sense
93. Short Cuts
92. Sling Blade
91. Heavenly Creatures
90. Dark City
89. Scream
88. The Sweet Hereafter
87. Rushmore
86. The Fifth Element
85. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
84. The Player
83. Point Break
82. Batman Returns
81. Farewell My Concubine
80. Close-Up
79. Naked Lunch
78. Fallen Angels
77. JFK
76. A Brighter Summer Day
75. Happiness
74. Starship Troopers
73. Life Is Beautiful
72. Donnie Brasco
71. All About My Mother
70. Before Sunrise
69. La Haine
68. Army of Darkness
67. The Nightmare Before Christmas
66. Trois couleurs: Bleu
65. Whisper of the Heart
64. The Boondock Saints
63. Funny Games
62. As Good as It Gets
61. Twelve Monkeys
60. Babe
59. Dumb and Dumber
58. The Double Life of Veronique
57. The Lion King
56. Underground
55. Hoop Dreams
54. Trois couleurs: Rouge
53. Toy Story 2
52. Breaking the Waves
51. Hana-bi
50. Total Recall
49. Ed Wood

[Sexy Celebrity]

Get in!

Catch me! *jumps in*

[Sexy Celebrity]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCn88b8KpDo

Song about the number of films from my list that are on this list.

[Frightened Inmate No. 2]

Total Recall was okay, but it didn't make my list. I've wanted to see Ed Wood for a while.

[The Gunslinger45]

None of these are from my list, but I have seen both and they are awesome!

[Godoggo]

Blerg. Neither are bad movies, there just not ones I care for much.