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Well then he might have grounds for a lawsuit. But he still sounds like an ass to me.

Well said and I agree.

Cops are people too and they're just trying to do their jobs in a very dangerous profession...they risk their lives to keep us safe.

Cops are the last person to understand the law, which is why they are so bad at enforcing it.

This is the precise line of thinking that ends in minorities being shot dead.

We all know being a cop is dangerous. We know the job is dangerous. So like, if you're too cowardly to lay down your life on the job then you have no business being a cop. I have zero patience or respect for officers who break the law/SOPs and then claim fear of danger as their motivation for use of unjustified force. Perhaps they should have considered that before joining up.

The real heroes are the ones that don't come home. Otherwise, they are just doing a job. That does not give them license to bully and act like ********.

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I'm a huge proponent of the rule of law, and this is no exception. But deep down civilization is based on people's everyday pliability more than legalese. The cop should not bother them, but I think it's foolhardy and short-sighted to escalate the situation, too, to make a minute point.

It kinda reminds me of people who, because we have free speech, decide the only way to honor that (or to show up people who might curtail it) is to be as confrontational and offensive with that right as possible. Of course the government should not threaten them for it, but the rest of society doesn't have to pretend it's okay, either. In fact, that is exactly the mechanism we should be using: societal disapproval. No actual force behind it, just disapproval. And I personally disapprove of people, in this particular scenario, responding to slightly overzealous police work by ratcheting things up and using even more of the already wasted police effort, at a time where everyone's on edge already.

Yea, I put this up on my FB this morning. Police state, incoming. Lock and load!

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Yeah you are right

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...930-2020-04-03

Granted, we don't know all the facts. And as someone who knows firsthand how bad most cops are at responding to calls that don't involve an active shooter I would assume that they probably told them to clear off, the father probably responded with a quip about it not being illegal, then cops escalate to "I'm stopping you...drop your pants and assume the position", and then dude escalates more by exercising HIS RIGHT to not identify himself.

We long ago reached a point in this country where exercising YOUR RIGHTS is an open invitation to be met with police brutality/asshattery. Just ask the minorities: they have known and experienced this for decades.

All I know is when a cop tells me to do something I do it and then ask why. It's far better to abide by the officer's commands, get their badge number, and then go after their job once you are no longer at the end of their clutches. I'd much rather see people availing themselves of the justice system to get cops suspended/terminated for doing **** like this, but they only bully the poor and the system is designed so the poor can't leverage the rule of law.

From what I can gather, the family was abiding by the 4-person limit that had been posted at the park itself. I wasn't there, so who knows, but that was the idea I got.

What I mean is we don't know how the encounter went. We don't know if the police officers used threats/rudeness to try and clear them off. We don't know if the man responded rudely when politely asked to leave the park.

But one thing is certain: one of the parties involved used rudeness in the exchange. There's no other reason why it would have escalated to cuffs, but the fact that it ended with the dude in cuffs in front of his kid makes me willing to bet it was rudeness from the officers that resulted in a quip from the dude that they did not like. Why else would you call for backup?

"Uh, dispatch, we got a guy with a wiffle bat refusing to disperse. I'm gunna need backup ASAP. His six year old keeps reaching for something and won't show me her hands."

I can picture that happening!

Indeed a case of the "cure" becoming worse than the problem.

It's only a matter of time before common sense and logic is disbanded by those in authority or before some come to see the crisis as a means to their own ends.

I also support police and rule of law, but not when police utilize a crisis to fulfill some personal ego need for power and authoritarianism by enforcing laws that don't even exist and stepping on the rights of those who are so OBVIOUSLY doing nothing wrong.

Exactly how can they explain their actions? This guy was with the same 2 people he lives with in close quarters - so how is he now going to spread disease to them, outside, yards and yards away from any other people? And what is safer for people - to be forced to huddle indoors close together, or to be outside in the elements where the cycles of nature are constantly cleansing all surfaces?

Sounds like the police were being jerks but let's not make it a racial issue. That's more disgusting than the rest of it.

I sense a colorful conspiracy theory abrew

'theory'=wild speculation, I.E. fan fiction

If we're talking about the same thing... I think it's AOC's colorful theory...
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...19-reparation/

No. Sorry. The majority of folks I talk to do not "understand the law".

"last person to understand the law" ??????????????

Hyperbole doesn't help here. That's setting us up for a conversational abyss.
@Yoda is busy enough, lol...


No. And going there is a can of worms I'm not going into. Just keep in mind that stats are not what either the left or right are very clear on interpreting.

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When women have a poet, they want a cowboy.
When they have a cowboy, they want a poet.
They'll say "I don't care if he's a poet or cowboy, so long as he's a nice guy. But oh, I'm so attracted to that bad guy over there."

Understand this last part, and you'll get them all.

Yes, words of wisdom. I disagree with "jerks" until I know more about what the emergency ordinance says, but I'll certainly support banning this nonsense of having the race card get thrown about.

Oh MAN what a flame-fest that would be.

By the way, having the cops engage in "social distancing" is a no-go at the start----I have no idea why that was mentioned other than to confuse people. Cops cannot perform their job in any way by being forced to obey that particular thing. Can you imagine the effect? A criminal thinking that a cop cannot be within 6 feet? Oy!

But they could practice it with citizens and only have to break with social distancing if they needed to physically stop a criminal or a suspect they were taking into custody.

This whole topic just smacks to me of "outrage porn" and tangential argument that has little if anything to do with corona.

None of us know what actually happened. There are at least two sides to every story. Maybe the cops were wrong, maybe they weren't. Maybe the guy was in the wrong, maybe he wasn't. Maybe both were. None of us can know.

Perhaps it might be best to move on from the topic?

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