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Das Boot is so gripping and realistic you can feel claustrophobic and seasick just by watching it. The pursuit scene with the eighties synths in the background is amazing. For those that haven't seen it but want to, make sure to check the director's cut. One of the best naval warfare/submarine films ever made, my #2.

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Das Boot is my #6. Riveting and tense as a war film can get. I was totally sold through the whole journey and when the ending rolled around, it was one of the few times when my jaw was literally left hanging open. A total classic.

#2 Platoon "Barnes been shot seven times and he ain't dead. Does that mean anything to you, huh? Barnes ain't meant to die. The only thing that can kill Barnes is Barnes." #16
#4 1917 "Look, its just a bit of bloody tin. It doesn't make you special. It doesn't make any difference to anyone." #31
#6 Das Boot "They're drinking at the bar, celebrating our sinking! Not yet, my friends. Not yet!" #9
#7 The Longest Day "In this darkest hour, in the gloom of night, we must not despair. For each of us, deliverance is coming!" #36
#8 Hacksaw Ridge "Please Lord, help me get one more. Help me get one more." #67
#9 We Were Soliders "If any of you sons of bitches calls me grandpa, I'll kill you." #104 DNP
#10 The Hurt Locker "The rush of battle is often a potent and lethal addiction, for war is a drug."#58
#12 Dunkirk "Seeing home doesn't help us get there, Captain." #47
#15 Patton "Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!" #28
#17 The Best Years of Our Lives “I had a dream. I dreamt I was home. I've had that same dream hundreds of times before. This time, I wanted to find out if it's really true. Am I really home?” #21
#18 The Dirty Dozen "Killin' generals could get to be a habit with me." #32
#21 Tora! Tora! Tora! "It looks good on paper, but for God's sake... that's not a paper fleet sitting out there." #63
#23 The Deer Hunter "Stanley, see this? This is this. This ain't something else. This is this. From now on, you're on your own." #25
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Didn't Make the List (2/4)

18. This Land is Mine (1943)

Unfortunately, my group watch nomination for this film didn't help to secure its place on this countdown. Still though, it's an excellent film which was way ahead of its time with its ruminations on the importance of the resistance efforts. As with The Great Dictator, being released in the middle of war gave this film an extra layer of importance. Just like it could be argued that Chaplin's film wouldn't be as powerful with a remake, the same could be said for this film. Not only does the film stress the importance of the resistance effort, but it also shows the dedication the resistance fighters enact to keep their movement alive. For example, after the Nazis threaten to execute a group of resistance fighters unless another member gives himself up, the film shows that it's better for him to refuse to save them and continue fighting, as opposed to giving up and costing the resistance efforts yet another man. Its great moments like those which make its themes all the more striking. And, of course, Albert makes for a great anchor to these themes. Initially portrayed as a coward and the subject of ridicule by his students and those around him, he's forced to decide whether to risk his safety and stick up for the resistance efforts or to take the coward's way out to save himself. This dilemma makes for a great payoff as the final scene has emotional power in spades. It recalls the down but not out vibes of the ending to Mrs. Miniver. I think this film generally gets left out of the discussion when people discuss Jean Renoir, but I think it ranks with his best films, personally.

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My updated ballot:

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5. To Be or Not to Be (#41)
6. The Battle of Algiers (#24)
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8. The Best Years of Our Lives (#21)
9. From Here to Eternity (#30)
10. The Ascent (#33)
11. The Thin Red Line (#17)
12. Pan's Labyrinth (#54)
13. The General (#64)
14. Kanal (#61)
15. Red Angel (#100)
16. Underground (#43)
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18. This Land is Mine (N/A)
19. Barry Lyndon (#50)
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21. The Fifth Seal (N/A)
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23. Johnny Got His Gun (#97)
24. Night and Fog (#48)
25. The Deer Hunter (#25)



Das Boot is one of those really famous war movies I've never seen. For some reason my interest has never really been there for it. Though, to be fair, I really don't have a great guess as to what my opinion would be of it.



Das Boot was my #3. Great to see it feature in the top 10.




I forgot the opening line.
9. Das Boot - Das Boot is simply a classic. I don't know what else I can say about it after writing a review in a Hall of Fame and talking about it in the Foreign Language Films countdown. In my review I said that "no film will ever give you as accurate a gauge on what [going to war aboard a sub] was like than Das Boot, an absolute classic account based on Lothar-Günther Buchheim's time as a war correspondent onboard one." Then I talked about what I thought it was about : "It's about the psychological impact [of war], transferred to us as spectators. It's about a lot of positive aspects regarding humanity, in the worst of all possible situations - [people] who work for each other and fight to live, longing to be with loved ones again and never wanting to let that go. It's also about the absurdity of sending young men away to face near certain death in the middle of the Atlantic ocean, and the absurdity to send them out there to kill. It's about the relationship between man and machine - and the relationship between the men who use the machine, and those who make it. It's about human endurance, and the psychological limits of men. It's about leaders, and those who are old before they were ever meant to be old, and the fact that war is often fought by those who were just yesterday children. Those with the most to lose, are often those who are sent to die. More incredible is that most of it is true, and that 30,000 young men felt that awful fear moments before their life, love and soul were suddenly and violently snuffed out." Like I said - a classic, and a submarine film that may never be bettered. I had it at #6.

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Seen : 70/92
I'd never even heard of :12/92
Movies that had been on my radar, but I haven't seen yet : 10/92
Films from my list : 17

#9 - My #6 - Das Boot (1981)
#10 - My #8 - All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
#11 - My #3 - Schindler's List (1993)
#12 - My #9 - Grave of the Fireflies (1988)
#13 - My #12 - Downfall (2004)
#15 - My #21 - Inglourious Basterds (2009)
#17 - My #11 - The Thin Red Line (1998)
#20 - My #17 - The Cranes Are Flying (1957)
#27 - My #15 - The Human Condition I: No Greater Love (1959)
#31 - My #20 - 1917 (2019)
#33 - My #2 - The Ascent (1977)
#34 - My #4 - The Human Condition III: A Soldier's Prayer (1961)
#38 - My #23 - Glory (1989)
#49 - My #24 - The Guns of Navarone (1961)
#51 - My #7 - The Human Condition II : Road to Eternity (1959)
#70 - My #14 - The Caine Mutiny (1954)
#74 - My #16 - Shoah (1985)

Overlooked films : Breaker Morant, Fail-Safe, Night and Fog, Casablanca
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From Tarantino's trademark moments of tense conversations
One of the many things which disappointed me about IB was the lack of trademark Tarantino dialogue. No spark, no wit. Nothing.

I love submarine movies, but other than Das Boot, I don't think there are many that have transcended into high levels of quality/notoriety. Crimson Tide and The Hunt for Red October are the ones that come closer,.
The Cruel Sea. I doubt it'll show now, but if you're talking submarine films, you need to watch The Cruel Sea.

Just so you know Christoph Waltz is not British and does not have a natural British accent. He was absolutely perfect for the role. I doubt the movie would have worked with anyone else.
It didn't work with him! He was one of the worst things about it for me.

I'm sitting on 10 selections,
Well go and find a chair or something you ninny.

It's been quite a while since I've posted here so some quick housekeeping. Ran, Platoon, Downfall, Schindler's List all made my list at 8, 5, 6, and 11 respectively.

As some of you may know, I have a thing about war movies (and movies in general) where if the first thing I hear about it is "the battle scenes are amazing!" I'm fairly confident from that point on it's not for me. Ran is the exception to that rule. The battle scenes in Ran are amazing but so is Ran. It probably does help that it's based on a Shakespeare play, and one of his best, but that is just the foundations from which this film is built and it's a huge, sprawling, exquisite film which sits upon them.

I like Oliver Stone quite a lot, and Platoon is one of his best. It's a film about division, about ying and yang, about good and evil, about right and wrong, about them and us and dozens of other sides. But, like all the best war films, it's about being human and the absolute best and the absolute worst of what that means.

Downfall I haven't seen now for a very long time, but I've seen it two or three times and it just hits like a sledgehammer every time. It's so tense, so claustrophobic, so frightening to see crazy that close up, to see that kind of delusional devotion which goes beyond all logic and which seems like absolute madness to anyone who isn't one of those in that state, for whom it's the most natural thing in the world. Again, like Platoon, it's about being human and how complex that is even in a story where it should simply be black and white and how that's usually told to us.

I've seen Schindler's List twice, I doubt I'll watch it again. Both times are in the 90s, and so my memories of it are either incredibly vivid or simply a blurred sense of emotion. After so many years of therapy I'm not even sure if I could watch it now without completely falling apart? Maybe that's the point? Anyway, as I have so few war films to choose from and because this film is so important (maybe more so now than when it was actually made?) I had to include it, as I did Night and Fog for the same reason.



I saw All Quiet on the Western Front when I was 19 or 20, which is a great time to see a film like that. A bit like watching The Breakfast Club When you're 15 or listening to The Doors when you're 17, it just fits for where you probably are in your life. I think part of why I like this so much is because you rarely see things from the German point of view in US/UK films, especially when I saw it in the early 90s. It being an anti-war film, also marked it out as something different. But I don't think I included it just because it's different, I think I included it because it's a very good film, which I had at number two.

I also had Das Boot on my list at number 4( because it's the second best submarine film ever made and my number 3 film was also a submarine film.) I first saw Das Boot when I was 10 or 11 in its miniseries format on BBC 2 and was absolutely captivated by it. The small, dark claustrophobic sense of the film works so well on television and I felt simlarly sitting my small, dark bedroom, peering at 12" B&W screen. Later I saw Das Boot and the director's cut, probably in my late teens/early twenties? And was once again taken back to being that little boy in his bedroom staring now it's a bigger screen in colour and once again being captivated by these men trapped in their small little box full of fear, trepidation, joy and loneliness.
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...The Cruel Sea. I doubt it'll show now, but if you're talking submarine films, you need to watch The Cruel Sea....
I've seen it. One of the best British WWII films I watched for this countdown and I seen a number of them. I wrote this:

The Cruel Sea (1953)
This was a breath of fresh air! So many war films rely on non stop action or they rely on lots of melodrama...The Cruel Sea didn't do that, it didn't need to. Oh there's action aplenty but it's well earned and critical to the movie's theme. The theme is a group of British Naval personal who are on a very dangerous mission of escorting ship convoys across the Atlantic....where U-Boats lurk. I thought this was very well done, it feels personal like we're part of the convoy, and I liked that. It's an interesting subject too and a critical acclaimed British war film.
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One of the many things which disappointed me about IB was the lack of trademark Tarantino dialogue. No spark, no wit. Nothing.
What?! That opening? the underground bar scene? and pretty much every scene with Landa?

The Cruel Sea. I doubt it'll show now, but if you're talking submarine films, you need to watch The Cruel Sea.
Yeah, I've heard about this one, as well as many other more "obscure" ones. That's why I mentioned notoriety/popularity.
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Saving Private Ryan
Director

Steven Spielberg, 1998

Starring

Tom Hanks, Tom Sizemore, Edward Burns, Matt Damon



Saving private Ryan was my number 21. On my list: Spielberg's knack for war movies recreates the battlefield in ways no one has ever seen before, so the realism is hard to handle, even for non-veterans.



Saving Private Ryan - It was a good war movie, I sure enjoyed it.

Ballot Update

Saving Private Ryan is #1 on my ballot
Tropic Thunder is #2 on my ballot
The Deer Hunter is #4 on my ballot
Three Kings is #6 on my ballot
First Blood is #8 on my ballot
Inglorious Basterds is #9 on my ballot

I'll reveal the rest of my ballot after countdown is done even though my #3, 5, 7, 10 probably won't make the war countdown list.
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Private Ryan was my 13, probably should be higher. Finally rewatched for the first time since the theatre. The battle scenes are unmatched. It’s really astounding. Schindler’s List was my 8. Spielberg knows how to make a film.
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What?! That opening? the underground bar scene? and pretty much every scene with Landa?

The underground bar scene has never worked for me but the opening and the strudel scene are two of the best things QT has ever done.


And I also admit a fondness for the Bear Jew, even though it's my nemesis Eli Roth.


And while it is far from my favorite Tarantino film, it would have definitely made my top 25 war list (turns out I don't really love that many war films)



Saving Private Ryan is the rare critically revered film (at least by those whose opinions I generally respect) that I think is borderline shit.


I always forget it was made by Spielberg, since it is rare that he makes a complete dud like this one....but it was definitely the beginning of me not watching his films religiously anymore. I've barely seen anything he's done since it, and I think it's all Private Ryan's fault