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I just know they're coming to kill me.
My only problem is that I don't ever remember the monster being white.

At least make it true to the movie. I love the monster and the way it was designed; but this? This model is crap.
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The monster was definitely white in the film; I and a couple of other people I saw it with all noticed as much, though the lighting varied greatly, so it wasn't evident in every shot.

I'm not sure how the model can be "crap." It appears to be the exact design the filmmakers used; I believe it's an "official" product, so this isn't just some random artist's version of it. If it doesn't live up to the expectations created by the glimpses of the film, I have to float the idea that nothing possibly could.



Well, obviously I can't give you timestamps. But I think it was most noticable in the overhead shots in the helicopter. I'm positive it was very lightly colored, though; I took notice of it (as did the three people I was with) mainly because it's so unusual. Director Matt Reeves has confirmed it, too, citing the fact that it was so unusual as one of the reasons for doing it:

We also really loved the idea that the creature in contrast to other creatures you might have seen was sort of a pale, white and again because it’s a baby, it’s just been born and it has this ugly translucence to its skin.
I would think this would all be fairly evident. I mean, what exactly was being suggested? That the studio signed off on an expensive collector's model that didn't even match the design of the monster in the film? Studios can be pretty dumb, but that'd be downright bizarre.



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Yeah, but the very last scene when it got Hud... it was black.

And its tail when it swung out of the water... that was a brownish tint.

And there were other scenes where its color was dark in nature.

I just found it odd that they're painting it white when I just cited two definite scenes where it wasn't.



Well, you can't really "cite" these instances, because you're only describing what color you thought it was when you saw it, and even then only from a specific perspective. So it's not a "cite" in the sense that you can reference it objectively.

Anyway, I'd assumed that it looked black at the end because of the lighting. Anything looks black if it's right in front of you with the sun behind it, for example. And as you can see from the Reeves quote in my last post (which ought to settle this, really), it's intended to be somewhat translucent, so that, too, could explain why it occasionally looked a little different.



Well, I feel like a bit of a jerk forcing the issue, but we have the director on record describing the creature as "pale" and "white." And the official model for sale is also white. I don't think that leaves a lot of room for interpretation.

I suppose one could claim that the creature was designed to be white, and simply wasn't in several shots, but that'd be one massive oversight on the part of the effects team and filmmaker, and by all accounts a lot of time went into the design.

I won't belabor the point any further, though. When the DVD comes out we can all have another, clearer look.



Right, I gave Cloverfield
when I first saw it. But now I think it was more like a
movie.

Now, at first I thought it was a very different, very well done monster movie. But then I started thinking about the technique they used to make it. Is this "found footage" supposed to be unedited by whoever found it? I assume it was because I don't think DV tapes last any longer. If it was, then it was highly convenient how a guy like Hud managed to capture so much story and character amongst his friends, and it was very well paced for something that was edited on the spot with the record button. And I would never have filmed some of the things he did. I mean, fair enough, you'd try and film the monster...

WARNING: "Cloverfield" spoilers below
...but why would you film yourself trying to chat someone up? Why would you film Rob telling his mother that Jason had died? Why would you linger on an clearly upset and distraught Marlena, who just saw the monster, and asked her to tell the camera about what she saw?


What he filmed was important for the story, which was highly entertaining, but I just didn't believe some of it for a second.

It played out exactly like a Hollywood movie. There's nothing wrong with that, but then why choose to employ such a realistic approach?
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It played out exactly like a Hollywood movie. There's nothing wrong with that, but then why choose to employ such a realistic approach?
I think Hud explains why he continues to film everything half way through, when he says something along the lines of, when everything starts to break down, someone has to be there to document the end. (I believe he uses the word “sh!t”. *snigger*) Its what I was talking about earlier on in this thread, with the availability of new technology, whether it be on your phone or on small hand held DV, everyone has the opportunity to be a reporter now. Just the same as the cameras kept rolling throughout 9/11 by the media and the survivors.

The fact that it was such a Hollywood movie is because it's made to entertain us. Would be pretty boring if he was crying all the time and pointing the camera at the floor.
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I really enjoyed this film which was a great surprise. However, the camcorder style filming may not be for everyone and i did make me feel a little ill at times.



I really enjoyed the film the first time that my friend (nerd who followed the online crap for 6 months) made us go see it again. Second was still fun but not as much. You can tell this is a movie that will get less and less interesting with repeated viewings.



I may be portuguese but I swear i cried when i saw the Statue of Liberty decapited..but still the movie was great though the ending wasn't that good quote " I love you...I love you " * rocks come down* ...-.-



Dunno why I'm not mentioning this until now, but when I came out of the film, I was wondering aloud to the people I was with whether or not I should give it 4.5 stars or 5 stars. My brother asked "well, what was wrong with it?" Dead silence on my end. Couldn't think of anything. Hence, 5 stars.



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If you judge this movie based on whether it did what it set out to do, it's hard not to give it 5 stars. I agree, despite having some running disagreements with family members about what exactly happened at the very end.



Bright light. Bright light. Uh oh.
I don't know where else to post this, but here goes my mini review of Cloverfield. I realize that I didn't see it with a large audience in the theatre. I also did not see The Blair Witch Project (
) or the original Gojira (Godzilla) (
) in a packed theatre. So this review is strictly based on watching it twice at home with a large TV and the stereo cranked up.



The film began quite lowkey for me, and I know it was all supposed to be a setup for what came later, but I have to admit that although I did find it well-acted, I didn't really care that much about what was happening or the characters' personal relatiionships. I will also admit though that it all seemed real and that the characters themselves honestly seemed to care about each other. When the attacks began, they certainly got my attention, but even though the presentation of the film is somewhat original (although I'd call it a cross between the lousy Blair Witch and the bravura United 93), the story of the film just doesn't hold enough interest for me, even at about 74 minutes, not counting the end credits. I'm happy that somebody attempted to update the monster-run-amok genre and made a decent one, but even though there are a few good, quiet moments sprinkled about, there just wasn't really enough of any of the individual elements to make me feel I was actually watching a completed film, even if it was just supposed to be a "document".



I believe the main reason I can't wholeheartedly jump on the Cloverfield band wagon is that it is pretty good, but not truly very good in most of its elements. For example, the special effects, when presented from the point of view of people on the street, are pretty impressive, but when you see them from a larger perspective (say, a helicopter or the top of a building), they don't seem to be as realistic. The simple, honest reactions of the characters seem to give way to reacting to a monster, and I realize this is a problem with monster movies in general, but I didn't find the characters really reacting to an incomprehensible situation. This doesn't mean that I thought the acting got weaker; it's just that the acting didn't really seem to matter after awhile because all the characters were just pawns to be attacked or killed by the monster. I actually care about these characters more than I do most of these sci-fi monster movies, but it just goes with the genre. Another thing which goes with the genre is that when the military shows up in a sci-fi monster flick, my interest level wanes. The military always seems to do the same thing in these kinds of films, so it always makes me squirm a little when they don't do something original. (I will give the one soldier points though for letting them go out to attempt to save a loved one.)



Still, there were a good half-dozen scenes of intensity which would lead me to give the film a qualified recommendation. It does go by quickly enough, especially since it's so short, and I found it to be well-crafted. Yes, it's better than most all the '50s and '60s films of a similar nature, but those were all low-budget, mostly-cornball, and knew it. I find this film better in most every way, but it still seems more like a gimmicky blueprint than a full-blooded sci-fi/horror/monster flick. I'm happy if you enjoyed it and continue to enjoy it when watching it at home. I'm not really trying to disagree with other people's opinions. I'm just sharing my belated thoughts on the film. I get the feeling I'm rambling here. Sorry.
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Hey Mark ... do you have the speakers surrounding you?

Because for me one of the best elements was the chaos, the way lots of things were happening just out of your field of view ... for me the actual camera became a sort of character ... and my ears became the more important sense rather than incidental as usually happens ... I enjoyed being frustrated because I heard something off camera and just wanted to see WTF was happening ... I ended up ducking a bit in my seat when suddenely the military turned up and I was between them and the monster.
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Bright light. Bright light. Uh oh.
Yep, the speakers are arranged for surround sound. The sound was good and made you imagine things, but they often didn't pan out, at least for me. There are many more things I would comment about, but as I said, I felt like I was wearing out my welcome.



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For me it takes a lot for a film to keep me on the edge of my seat when only couple hours sleep and hungover ... Cloverfield did that ... but agreed that it is not perfect.

Hope sequel is not another Blair Witch fiasco



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Nice review Mark. I'm really interested in seeing this at home on DVD. I, like a lot of people here thoroughly enjoyed my cinema experience of seeing Cloverfield for the first time, so I’m very keen to watch it at home, especially with some friends who didn’t get a chance to see it at the cinema, and to see what their reactions are.

There’s one thing that’s really bugging me though, WHY OH WHY are there so many versions of the DVD out to buy? Apparently there’s one with the soundtrack and some extra feature all about Hud (Our camera man), then there’s another in a special steel tin, then there’s another with a toy or something. It’s annoying.

I know this is lazy, but I can’t seem to find them everywhere as I think most of these limited editions are available in the US only, but can someone (Jrs? You da DVD man!) Recommend which one is best? Ideally I want to buy the steal tin one, but I don’t wanna miss out on the cool features of the other releases. OH GOD WHAT TO DO.