The MoFos Top 100 of the 90s Countdown - Redux

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Maybe, but I think the fact that it has a broader appeal and is perhaps a bit more "mature" might translate into a wider audience. Personally, I haven't seen it in a very long time and didn't vote for it, but I do think it might still have a chance to make it in the next 10-ish slots.
For one thing, Crimson Tide doesn't seem especially "mature" in comparison to The Thin Red Line or Schindler's List. It seems pretty lightweight and artificial.

Besides there being another great submarine movie in the decade - namely The Hunt for Red October - just in terms of military/war movies there's also Saving Private Ryan, The Thin Red Line, A Few Good Men, The Last of the Mohicans, Braveheart, Three Kings, and Schindler's List....That Crimson Tide did not even make the cut on the MoFo Top100 War Films should tell you it has very, very slim chances making a decade list. As I say, the recent death of Hackman just before the deadline may have given it a boost...but if I were wagering, I'd place my moolah on it being a no-show here.

I don't think Hunt for Red October will make it, either, but I'll bet it got more points.

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The Hunger is Tony Scott’s best film by far.
As for True Romance, it’s a movie I feel I may have seen a long time ago but can’t remember really. Either way, I should watch it to make sure and perhaps to refresh my memory.
Have not seen Porco Rosso yet.
Going to say I’m 0/2 here.



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Although considerably downranked (from #47 to #94), Many Thanks to all five voters who kept True Romance in the list.

I've seen this movie three or four times and I like it but the competition for this decade is huge. Probably, I would include it in my top 50-60 of the 90's. Great cast indeed. Nice easy classic story. Somehow agree that Gary Oldman partly stole the show in the beginning.


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True Romance: Seen it. S'Ok. Packed with top-name stars and gonna-be-top-name-stars, so hard to resist when surfing for things to watch. But falls into that "not my type of movie" category. A bit "too much of too much."

Porco Rosso: Well, I can say this: Glad to be participating. Adding quite a few new entries to my impossibly long Letterboxd watchlist.

Seen: 3/8
Ballot: 1/25
Office Space: #95 / My #23
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For one thing, Crimson Tide doesn't seem especially "mature" in comparison to The Thin Red Line or Schindler's List. It seems pretty lightweight and artificial.

Besides there being another great submarine movie in the decade - namely The Hunt for Red October - just in terms of military/war movies there's also Saving Private Ryan, The Thin Red Line, A Few Good Men, The Last of the Mohicans, Braveheart, Three Kings, and Schindler's List....That Crimson Tide did not even make the cut on the MoFo Top100 War Films should tell you it has very, very slim chances making a decade list. As I say, the recent death of Hackman just before the deadline may have given it a boost...but if I were wagering, I'd place my moolah on it being a no-show here.

I don't think Hunt for Red October will make it, either, but I'll bet it got more points.

Yeah, I think you're right. I'm willing to bet it still made it as high as 100-150.
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I would expect zero other Tony Scott flicks.



There's a slight chance the recent death of Gene Hackman may propel Crimson Tide or Enemy of the State onto the very bottom of the list, but even that I wouldn't put great odds on, and if they haven't shown by the time we get to the seventies on the countdown, they ain't comin'. The Fan is laughably awful, and DeNiro has a myriad of much better movies to choose from in the '90s. Revenge is such a wasted opportunity, an appropriately long-forgotten, overwrought dud. Though The Last Boy Scout has gained some cult appeal over the decades, there are certainly many both better and more popular action-oriented titles that should take precedence, and frankly the unflitered Shane Black that we got with Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and The Nice Guys in the 21st Century makes Boy Scout and The Long Kiss Goodnight look worse and worse in retrospect. As for Days of Thunder, it may have a chance on the eventual Sports movie list, as that is a much shallower pool, but it sure ain't gonna show here.

In fact, the only other Tony Scott movie to have made a MoFo List thus far is...his remake of Man on Fire (2004), which was #70 on the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium, though it did not reappear on the Top 100 of the 2000s list. Even Top Gun missed the MoFo Top 100 of the 1980s, and The Hunger didn't make that or either of the Horror lists.

Definitely more of the Tarantino factor than support of Tony Scott that has helped True Romance, voting wise, I expect.

But...keep those fingers crossed!


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True Romance was an instant favorite when I saw it the weekend it came out, and I think it was my #2 for the 1st 90's countdown. I still love it but it's gotten a little stale in recent years. It just missed my ballot this time around.

I watched every Miyazaki film for the animation countdown and it was hit or miss. Porco Rosso was a hit but still not close to a consideration for my ballot.



Porco Rosso is one I have not seen. True Romance is a film I really liked but I haven't watched in a long time. I remember really liking Gary Oldman in it because I'm quite a fan of his, and I also loved the Dennis Hopper/Christopher Walken scene. I like Christian Slater and Patricia Arquette in this, but I prefer all the supporting characters to them, so I'm not sure what that says about the movie as a whole. Still a good watch but I didn't include it on my list.

Still no love for me on the countdown. Ah well, there's always tomorrow. And no, I'm not drifting back to the 80s there.
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I've now seen 1/8. I didn't like True Romance much though. The performances are fine. I just found the script boring and convoluted and just took forever to get anywhere. After a while, I lost interest.
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Finally found the time to catch up on the thread!

Of the reveals so far, I've seen What's Eating Gilbert Grape, Sonatine, Office Space, True Romance, and Porco Rosso. Of those, only Office Space was in contention for a spot on my list, though it was a very early cut.

I finally watched Sonatine in preparation for this Countdown, but was quite underwhelmed. Perhaps years of seeing people praise it set me up for disappointment. I kind of wish I had used that time to watch Fallen Angels instead, since I actually like all of the Wong Kar-wai films I've seen (which unfortunately is not something I can say about Kitano).

I haven't seen The Celebration or Gummo, but my interest in the former has certainly been piqued by the comparison some people here have made between it and The Hunt/Jagten, which was a fantastic film.

Seen: 05/08

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I've now seen 1/8. I didn't like True Romance much though. The performances are fine. I just found the script boring and convoluted and just took forever to get anywhere. After a while, I lost interest.
True Romance has a hell of an atmosphere going for it, but the real issue is that the major characters are drowned out a swarm of side characters. Not enough Kilmer, Walken, Jackson, Oldman or Hopper. Now I liked the plot well enough, and there were easily several brilliant scenes with some major raw power behind them. But the swarm of characters is a problem for me, which is the only thing getting in the way of an otherwise great way of showing how a simple romance can turn into a road trip for your life based on that. I love Slater's performance and dialogue as well: "I'm not satisfied until the spoon stands straight up."

85/100. Seen 4/8
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True Romance joins Mona Lisa, Lean’s version of Oliver Twist, and The Phantom Carriage as films I feel like I have seen before but really not sure of if I did and so I’ll consider them unwatched for now.

Then there are the films I haven’t seen in over 20 years that I should rewatch, such as Funny Games (original) along with Brotherhood of the Wolf. Both exist on the periphery of my memory but I’m unable to recall much about them, as a result. 20 years is a long time, after all.



True Romance is fine, but it had no chance at making my ballot.

True Romance (1993) -


This film was a mixed bag for me. For one, I don't know what it was going for with the characters. Clarence and Alabama's flaws are left out in the open,
WARNING: spoilers below
but given the weird 'they live happily ever after' ending,
it seems like you're meant to root for the two of them, and that connection just wasn't there for me. Like, Clarence's Elvis Presley hallucination in the first act screamed "This guy needs serious help!" and I kept that impression all throughout the film. Alabama didn't prove much better in this regard as the way she shrugged Clarence's violence off (the line "I think what you did is so romantic" made me cringe so hard) also annoyed me. As per Tarantino style, the action is highly stylized, but I found very little of it exciting. Those scenes really could've used some tightening up in terms of editing and cinematography. Even the final shootout, though interesting on paper, suffered from this to a degree. With that being said, I liked a few aspects about this film. Tarantino's writing style isn't for everyone, and while a couple scenes like the n word conversation are cringe inducing, I enjoyed most of the dialogue and felt it brought enough style to the film to keep it entertaining from beginning to end. Tarantino has a talent for writing catchy and witty scripts and this film was no exception to that. The film also lives up to another of Tarantino's strengths as it has a strong ensemble cast. Slater, Hopper, Walken, Rubinek, Rapaport, and even Arquette, though her acting occasionally annoyed me, ranged from good to great. Finally, while the story didn't interest me much, I did enjoy a few smaller scenes within the larger story, like Elliot being pulled over by a cop. Issues aside, I enjoyed my time with this film and, while I doubt I'll ever end up loving it, I might watch it again if I'm in the right mood.
I haven't seen Porco Rosso.
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Well my one-pointer is somewhere on the list.
Of those movies revealed, I have only seen What's Eating Gilbert Grape.
It is not on my list. I do like Lasse Halstrom, especially My Life as a Dog.

The best thing about WEGG was Leonardo DiCaprio's performance as the younger brother.
So far nothing from me.



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True Romance has a hell of an atmosphere going for it, but the real issue is that the major characters are drowned out a swarm of side characters. Not enough Kilmer, Walken, Jackson, Oldman or Hopper. Now I liked the plot well enough, and there were easily several brilliant scenes with some major raw power behind them. But the swarm of characters is a problem for me, which is the only thing getting in the way of an otherwise great way of showing how a simple romance can turn into a road trip for your life based on that. I love Slater's performance and dialogue as well: "I'm not satisfied until the spoon stands straight up."

85/100. Seen 4/8
I do remember enjoying Hopper, Oldman, and Walken, but I don't remember much else, nor liking much else. It's also been like 18 years since I watched it so maybe my memory is just hazy on it. I do recall not liking it as much as I had hoped, and I watched it in my "Tarantino fan" days, so I can't imagine revisiting it now and liking it more.



As much as I love animation in general, I don't love many animations from the 1990s. I wasn't really watching animation during the decade and I let nostalgia have a huge influence on my ballot, so much so that no animation made the cut. Having said that, I watched Porco Rosso sometime around the animation countdown. I didn't like it.
I'm fairly confident that most of us overseas, with very limited exception (including one which may well make this Countdown), did not grow up with a lot of pre-2000s anime movies.

Studio Ghibli didn't even have much of an overseas presence until Princess Mononoke got dubbed in 2000 and Spirited Away released theatrically in 2001... both of which are likewise insanely over-represented when it comes to Ghibli's "best" movies.

If you were lucky (or unlucky), you might have caught Nausicaa's bastardized straight-to-VHS localization into Warriors of the Wind back in the 80s, before Disney gave it a proper dub and rereleased it unedited in 2005.



Allegedly, this butchering scared off baby Ghibli from releasing more movies overseas, which doesn't surprise me. As it goes, it was already a massive bitch to even get original animations funded in the first place, so if it was enough of a pain to release a movie in Japan and THIS is what became of it overseas... then it's no wonder we didn't see more movies from Ghibli until the 2000s.

TLDR; I doubt anyone here over 25 saw Porco Rosso growing up.
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Never saw True Romance. I really have no opinion of this fact. It's neither a movie I feel an inclination to seek out nor actively refuse to watch - I just have other, higher priorities.


Back in the mid-00s someone on the RT forums did a "favorite (20 or 30) Studio Ghibli movies," and placed Porco Rosso at number 1. It wouldn't be my number 1, but I respect that opinion. It was in consideration for my ballot, but was an early cut from what was becoming an ever-growing shortlist. Glad to see it make the countdown.



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Excellent - my 100% record as to what I've seen continues....

94. True Romance (1993) - What I love most about True Romance is the sheer number of great actors we get to see deliver interesting and varied performances. Many are in small supporting roles, but they keep coming and all of them provide something interesting. Christian Slater and Patricia Arquette are serviceable in their lead roles, but for me are the least of what attracts me (I do like Christian Slater though, in general.) Dennis Hopper gets to play against type as the responsible, brave and devoted dad. Val Kilmer unfortunately we hardly see as "fantasy Elvis". Gary Oldman is devilish and scary as a drug dealer. Brad Pitt is hilarious as a hopeless yet very friendly stoner. Christopher Walken is unforgettable as a Mafia kingpin. Bronson Pinchot is loads of fun as a Hollywood underling. Samuel L. Jackson had yet to find himself, but is present. James Gandolfini is suitably ugly as a murderous thug. Chris Penn and Tom Sizemore really inhabit their roles as pushy detectives out for a big bust. When each of these performers appear on this film's stage I get excited - and as such True Romance is endlessly rewatchable. Didn't make my list, but I do like this film.


93. Porco Rosso (1992) - I caught up with this Studio Ghibli film when it briefly appeared in the Foreign Language countdown ages ago (due to a miscalculation it subsequently dropped out, but I still took note and managed to find it and watch it.) This was the first Hayao Miyazaki animated movie I ever saw, and as strange as it is I hadn't seen anything yet. I liked it well enough, and over the years I've managed to see quite a few others. No chance of making my list though.

Seen : 8/8
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