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edward scissor hands, nightmare b4 xmas, ed wood, and finally sleepy hollow
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Just a dog? Porthos dreams of being a bear, and you want to shatter those dreams by saying he's just a dog? What a horrible candle-snuffing word. That's like saying, "He can't climb that mountain, he's just a man", or "That's not a diamond, it's just a rock." Just.
Just a dog? Porthos dreams of being a bear, and you want to shatter those dreams by saying he's just a dog? What a horrible candle-snuffing word. That's like saying, "He can't climb that mountain, he's just a man", or "That's not a diamond, it's just a rock." Just.
Originally Posted by Purandara88
That's nice, but having a visual style does not in and of itself make you good. There has to be something else there or all you're producing is empty cinematic calories.
You misread what I wrote, read it again, but emphasize the italics:
"Visual style is pretty much all Tim Burton is about."
God, I really hate Tim Burton.
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Edward Scissorhands
Beetlejuice
Sleepy Hollow
Corpse Bride
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Sweeny Todd
Big Fish
a bit irrelevant, but....
(one thing that annoys me is that my mom never gave sweeny a chance, but chose to watch Confessions of a Shopaholic instead)
Beetlejuice
Sleepy Hollow
Corpse Bride
NBC
Sweeny Todd
Big Fish
a bit irrelevant, but....
(one thing that annoys me is that my mom never gave sweeny a chance, but chose to watch Confessions of a Shopaholic instead)
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I actually prefer his early films; Beetlejuice and Pee Wee's Big Adventure. When he started delving into more Gothic themes I began to lose interest.
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While I like his distinctive nature, he's still a very "hit or miss" guy for me.
My top 5 fave of his worx:
5. Batman
Okay, so maybe, the latest incarnations of the Batman have sort of watered down the impact of the Caped Crusader's modern film debut.
And maybe, Jack Nicholson, for the role of the Joker, was a little too old, not to mention, not exactly in the kind of shape that one would expect for a Clown-Prince of Crime.
But in the same manner of Marlon Brando in Superman's 1st big budget blockbuster, Nicholson also brings a certain class & credibility to a movie based off a comicbook. And just as in Clean & Sober, Michael Keaton shows that he can provide the kind of weight that is needed for more "non-humorous" roles.
But, more importantly, for Bat-Aficionado such as myself, I have to consider this movie just for the fact that Burton's version was the first serious effort outside of the comicbook to try & depict ol' Bats as a true Dark Knight of justice & finally introduce the down to earth grittiness that revealed the Caped Crusader as the real badass that we who read his comics always knew that he really was.
4. Beetlejuice
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice!
3. Ed Wood
Tim Burton teams up with Johhny Depp (surprise surprise....), & Martin Landau, along with Bill Murray (in his most non-Murray role to date), George "The Animal" Steele (a former wrestler with a literal taste for turnbuckles), & that one Sex In The City chick (the one who bears a striking resemblence to the equine-like pratronus that my wand conjures up whenever I'm surrounded by Dementors) to produce a colorful black & white film about the worst movie ever.
2. Sleepy Hollow
While I really like the style that Burton has to his movies, for my money, they usually seem to lack the substance to back up the strength of the uniqueness of their look. Sleepy Hollow is the exception. The idea of this movie wasn't one that had any real appeal for me, but in the end, I found it to have more in terms of story & character than I would've initially expected. I think Mr. Burton's work, though still considered somewhat as visually "avante garde" (I mean, y'know... as far as a mainstream director is concerned...), would be held in much higher regard if he could flesh out his stories, as well as he did for Sleepy Hollow (at least).
1. Nightmare Before Christmas
Is it a Halloween movie with a Christmas twist, or a Christmas movie with a Halloweenic slant? Or is it both?
For me, I look at it like discovering that your trick-or-treat bag has been filled with presents instead of candy. And if there are any rocks or coal in it, they would be the kind that would come alive with a large mouth & sharp teeth that might eat your face off, but would do so with such a childlike glee, that you wouldn't really mind at all.
Even though Burton didn't direct this, the idea (along with producing & co-writing it) is still of his own creation. And I really like the cast of characters of Halloween Town. Innocent enough for kids who can still see the world thru bushy-tailed bright-eyed glasses, yet twistedly dark enough to keep the interests of those of us adults who've had that part of our spirits crushed a long time ago.
An inter-holiday movie for all ages on either side of the perspective spectrum.
My top 5 fave of his worx:
5. Batman
Okay, so maybe, the latest incarnations of the Batman have sort of watered down the impact of the Caped Crusader's modern film debut.
And maybe, Jack Nicholson, for the role of the Joker, was a little too old, not to mention, not exactly in the kind of shape that one would expect for a Clown-Prince of Crime.
But in the same manner of Marlon Brando in Superman's 1st big budget blockbuster, Nicholson also brings a certain class & credibility to a movie based off a comicbook. And just as in Clean & Sober, Michael Keaton shows that he can provide the kind of weight that is needed for more "non-humorous" roles.
But, more importantly, for Bat-Aficionado such as myself, I have to consider this movie just for the fact that Burton's version was the first serious effort outside of the comicbook to try & depict ol' Bats as a true Dark Knight of justice & finally introduce the down to earth grittiness that revealed the Caped Crusader as the real badass that we who read his comics always knew that he really was.
4. Beetlejuice
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice!
3. Ed Wood
Tim Burton teams up with Johhny Depp (surprise surprise....), & Martin Landau, along with Bill Murray (in his most non-Murray role to date), George "The Animal" Steele (a former wrestler with a literal taste for turnbuckles), & that one Sex In The City chick (the one who bears a striking resemblence to the equine-like pratronus that my wand conjures up whenever I'm surrounded by Dementors) to produce a colorful black & white film about the worst movie ever.
2. Sleepy Hollow
While I really like the style that Burton has to his movies, for my money, they usually seem to lack the substance to back up the strength of the uniqueness of their look. Sleepy Hollow is the exception. The idea of this movie wasn't one that had any real appeal for me, but in the end, I found it to have more in terms of story & character than I would've initially expected. I think Mr. Burton's work, though still considered somewhat as visually "avante garde" (I mean, y'know... as far as a mainstream director is concerned...), would be held in much higher regard if he could flesh out his stories, as well as he did for Sleepy Hollow (at least).
1. Nightmare Before Christmas
Is it a Halloween movie with a Christmas twist, or a Christmas movie with a Halloweenic slant? Or is it both?
For me, I look at it like discovering that your trick-or-treat bag has been filled with presents instead of candy. And if there are any rocks or coal in it, they would be the kind that would come alive with a large mouth & sharp teeth that might eat your face off, but would do so with such a childlike glee, that you wouldn't really mind at all.
Even though Burton didn't direct this, the idea (along with producing & co-writing it) is still of his own creation. And I really like the cast of characters of Halloween Town. Innocent enough for kids who can still see the world thru bushy-tailed bright-eyed glasses, yet twistedly dark enough to keep the interests of those of us adults who've had that part of our spirits crushed a long time ago.
An inter-holiday movie for all ages on either side of the perspective spectrum.
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1. Edward Scissorhands
2. Beetlejuice
3. The Nightmare Before Christmas
And just to throw it in, my absolute least favorite Burton movie, and one of my least favorite movies of all time, is Planet Of The Apes.
2. Beetlejuice
3. The Nightmare Before Christmas
And just to throw it in, my absolute least favorite Burton movie, and one of my least favorite movies of all time, is Planet Of The Apes.
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5.Ed Wood
"Mr.Lugosi, I know you're very busy, but can i have your autograph?"
4.Edward Scissorhands
"Hold me, I cant"
3.Big Fish
"I do know you...at least by reputation"
2.Beetlejuice
"You think i'm qualified?"
1.Nightmare Before Christmas
"What's this, what's this..."
"Mr.Lugosi, I know you're very busy, but can i have your autograph?"
4.Edward Scissorhands
"Hold me, I cant"
3.Big Fish
"I do know you...at least by reputation"
2.Beetlejuice
"You think i'm qualified?"
1.Nightmare Before Christmas
"What's this, what's this..."
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My 100 ALL-TIME FAVE Movies
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I think his BEST films have been the following, imo:
1. Edward Scissorhands- what a classic love story, an updated gothic retelling of Frankenstein but with a more macabre approach, and a sweet sentimental touch, that Frankenstein did not. He crafted such a great performance from Johnny Depp, and launched his career, even!! The film was both tender and lighthearted, but also tragic and moody. I think he had such a great balance between these two moods, and I honestly can't think, if this had been made by anyone else, would it have been as successful and popular? I think it's his best film to date.
2. Big Fish: This didn't even feel like a Tim Burton film, apart from some of the peculiar characters! It just had a lot of heart and EPIC feel to it. And the finale of the movie is one of the most emotionally churning scenes I've ever seen.
3. Beetlejuice: We all knew Burton started on Pee Wee's Playhouse, but this was the definative film that showed Burton's knack for morbid sense of humor. It was such a playful movie, with an exceptional Michael Keaton as the title character. Apart from the, quite obvious, dark tones to the movie, you wouldn't even know that Tim Burton would have to do with such a comedy!
I know everyone defines Tim Burton with 'Batman' but that certainly isn't his best, cuz its not, its just a very good film. The three I chose I believe in strongly though, are his best.
1. Edward Scissorhands- what a classic love story, an updated gothic retelling of Frankenstein but with a more macabre approach, and a sweet sentimental touch, that Frankenstein did not. He crafted such a great performance from Johnny Depp, and launched his career, even!! The film was both tender and lighthearted, but also tragic and moody. I think he had such a great balance between these two moods, and I honestly can't think, if this had been made by anyone else, would it have been as successful and popular? I think it's his best film to date.
2. Big Fish: This didn't even feel like a Tim Burton film, apart from some of the peculiar characters! It just had a lot of heart and EPIC feel to it. And the finale of the movie is one of the most emotionally churning scenes I've ever seen.
3. Beetlejuice: We all knew Burton started on Pee Wee's Playhouse, but this was the definative film that showed Burton's knack for morbid sense of humor. It was such a playful movie, with an exceptional Michael Keaton as the title character. Apart from the, quite obvious, dark tones to the movie, you wouldn't even know that Tim Burton would have to do with such a comedy!
I know everyone defines Tim Burton with 'Batman' but that certainly isn't his best, cuz its not, its just a very good film. The three I chose I believe in strongly though, are his best.
Truthfully, I much prefer his early work; Pee Wee's big adventure, and Beetlejuice. They were more original, quirky character pieces. Edward Scissorhands is fine as well, though around this time he was delving deeper into more Gothic themes. I felt Sleepy Hollow was equally engaging in story, as it was in visual flair. I wish he would go back to his roots and work with original material, instead of just remaking older films.
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