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ueno_station54
12-17-21, 12:20 PM
Never heard of The Death of Mr. Lazarescu but that poster is sick so I might look into it.
Always found Battle Royale to be kinda mid and Kitano has X-Pac heat for me. Rarely would I say just read the book but this is one of those situations. It is considerably better than the manga though at least, avoid that **** like the plague.
Renaming the countdown movies Raul has never seen.
This holds up? :shifty:
I have never heard of Dr Lazeraus. That might be a first for me on mofo lists.
Battle Royale is one of the few examples of me watching a movie and genuinely thinking, “people like this? I don’t get why”.
mattiasflgrtll6
12-17-21, 12:23 PM
FIRST MOVIE FROM MY LIST! :king: :leo:
Battle Royale is a haunting brilliant masterpiece. It puts you in the shoes of these students so effectively and makes you really feel sad for the characters who get fleshed out. It also introduced me to Takeshi Kitano, who's a true star here. He's the creepiest kind of monster, the one who doesn't even comprehend that what he's doing is evil. In the name of politics there's no such thing as immoral or inhumane, just a road map to fame and "goodwill" for the school. Strangely enough though he still comes off as somewhat likable at the end after being responsible for thousands of people getting murdered (Even shooting someone himself at the start), just because of his calm down-to-earth energy. It shows how anyone can have moments where they don't seem so bad, no matter who they are. Kitano has his hopes and dreams just like everyone else, it just doesn't make him redeemable.
A must for anyone who's a fan of unrelenting thoughtprovoking cinema.
Deschain
12-17-21, 12:25 PM
Battle Royale was also on my list. At the time it was so unique and one-of-a-kind. It felt like it really took a while to finally get other movies and tv shows to have “battle royale” style stories. I remember looking up if there were any video games that were like it and being disappointed when I couldn’t find anything. It took over 15 years for video games to catch up.
Iroquois
12-17-21, 12:28 PM
One vote. Battle Royale was my #8. It's an old favourite that still holds up very well thanks to finding a worthy variation on the "most dangerous game" plot through state-sanctioned death sports, all the while blending it with the teen angst bullsh*t of high school melodrama and juggling a variety of tones through its eclectic cast of characters. It's certainly weathered its initial reputation as a controversial novelty between its post-Columbine delay and being referenced in Kill Bill, deftly balancing a variety of tones and styles in order to make for a well-rounded thriller. As for The Death of Mr. Lazarescu, I only just saw it earlier this year and liked it, but not enough to vote for it.
Holden Pike
12-17-21, 12:30 PM
83502
Battle Royale was #48 on the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium List as well as #73 on the MoFo Top 100 Foreign Films List. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu has never placed on one of the site's previous lists.
Citizen Rules
12-17-21, 12:31 PM
I don't think I've ever even heard of the The Death of Mr. Lazarescu...
Never heard of The Death of Mr. Lazarescu...
I have never heard of Dr Lazeraus. That might be a first for me on mofo lists...I've not heard of Death of Mr. Lazarescu either, how in the hell does it make the list when no one has heard of it?
Holden Pike
12-17-21, 12:33 PM
I have heard of it and seen it, at the Portland International Film Festival. It wasn't anywhere near my ballot but five voters liked it quite a bit, apparently.
Citizen Rules
12-17-21, 12:35 PM
I have heard of it and seen it, at the Portland International Film Festival. It wasn't anywhere near my ballot but five voters liked it quite a bit, apparently.But you and MarkF hearing about a movie don't count:D
I've not heard of Death of Mr. Lazarescu either, how in the hell does it make the list when no one has heard of it?
5 people heard about it :D and all of them rated it fairly highly (as in above the 15th spot). I'm sure they will jump in and claim it during the day.
ScarletLion
12-17-21, 12:42 PM
I've not heard of Death of Mr. Lazarescu either, how in the hell does it make the list when no one has heard of it?
What an arrogant thing to type.
People voted for it. I haven't heard of a few of these films in the list but it's because some people loved them that they are there.
Citizen Rules
12-17-21, 12:45 PM
What an arrogant thing to type.
People voted for it. I haven't heard of a few of these films in the list but it's because some people loved them that they are there.Not arrogant, just disbelief I can't recall a film making a countdown where so many people hadn't heard of it.
Ahh, I'm sure Citizen was saying it in jest; at least judging by his next comment...
But you and MarkF hearing about a movie don't count:D
The Death of Mr. Lazarescu is a nightmare comedy-drama specifically about the inadequacies and incompetence of the Romanian medical system but by extension, it's an attack on all bureaucracies.
Battle Royale is good with Beat Takeshi's presence threatening to go violent and the actual contestants going violent constantly, so it keeps you guessing and watching.
Neither made my list.
Chypmunk
12-17-21, 12:51 PM
The Death of Mr. Lazarescu sadly earns me another doughnut, at least I do know of it though. Battle Royale is a fun enough watch but always surprises me a little when it shows up on a list like this.
Seen: 14/24 (Own: 11/24)
3. Madeo [Mother] (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216496/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#96]
16. The Descent (2005) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#80]
25. The Pool (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0911024/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_6) [1-ptr]
Faildictions (millennial edition v1.0):
76. Mary And Max (2009)
75. Team America: World Police (2004)
Citizen Rules
12-17-21, 12:53 PM
Ahh, I'm sure Citizen was saying it in jest; at least judging by his next comment...Yeah, I wasn't complaining or anything, might even be a good movie.
and this is obviously a compliment, a big compliment to MoFo's Movie Gurus: Holden and MarkF:
But you and MarkF hearing about a movie don't count
I've not heard of Death of Mr. Lazarescu either, how in the hell does it make the list when no one has heard of it?
I’m wondering that myself but I’m way more concerned at how all of mofo has seen Battle Royale, and it still made the list.
ScarletLion
12-17-21, 12:59 PM
Ahh, I'm sure Citizen was saying it in jest; at least judging by his next comment...
Well fair enough. It only takes a few people to rank a film high to get it into a list. And Mr Lazarescu has always been one that's been talked about on this forum.
SpelingError
12-17-21, 01:01 PM
Haven't seen Battle Royale.
The Death of Mr. Lazarescu was #1 on my ballot, so I'm happy to see that my votes for it paid off. Here's my review of the film:
I was planning to check this film out a while ago, but for some reason, I never got around to it. Having seen it though, I was really blown away by it. I initially thought the first act dragged a little, but after rewatching it, I warmed up to it and the film impacted me to the point that it's become one of my favorites of the decade.
Ever since I got into film, I consistently got more and more used to slow paced films as I went along. Now, I sometimes can't even tell if a film is slow as long as I find it to be interesting. After watching this film, I tried to think of other films that used their slow pacing in a better way, but currently, I'm having great difficulty with coming up with much that compares to this. A couple critics felt that this film was too long, but I wouldn't say it dragged at any point as I was thoroughly engaged throughout it. The majority of the film serves as a criticism of the Romanian medical system as it details the various flaws with the doctors, shown in numerous parts where the doctors wasted time performing tests/asking questions which didn't accomplish anything or where it would take a while for them to help Lazarescu out. This repetition comprised the bulk of the film. Instead of becoming less impressed by this point as it went on though, the overwhelming reaction I got from this repetition (intensity of feeling is largely what the film conveys) was that each wasted minute was tearing him down, slowly but at a steadily increasing rate. This is set against how the film continuously details his declining health, shown by how he slowly loses the ability to walk and speak and how he grows less and less conscious as the film goes on. As the night unfolds, it's clear that the problem slowly escalates. Watching the film, you feel a quiet rage towards the doctors he encounters throughout the film, one that hangs on you to the point that it slowly wears you down as you watch it, causing any forms of progress made on him to feel like a catharsis.
Beside these characters lie a couple others who bring a lighter side to the film. The most notable of which is Mioara Avram, the nurse who accompanies Lazarescu throughout the night. While she sometimes speaks up towards the doctors and expresses criticism towards their practices throughout the film and especially with the third hospital, she usually faces verbal abuse in response. As much as she has the right to be mad at the doctors though, she remains calm and passively accepts the behavior they treat her with. At one point, she says she's had her job for 16 years. With all of this, I got a portrait of a woman who, after many years of experiencing the issues with the medical practices in the country, eventually understood over time that there was nothing she could do to help the situation. While she has a few friends in the medical field (one of the women she meets apologizes that he couldn't be operated on in the second hospital), she's largely powerless in the face of them. Despite this though, she still at least attempts to make a difference. Again and again. Other memorable characters include Sandu Sterian, Lazarescu's neighbor who helps him out in the opening act. While I had issues with this act during my first viewing, I enjoyed it much more this time around. Although his neighbor isn't able to help him out that much, it's interesting that, even though he isn't a doctor, he still does more for him than most of the doctors he encounters throughout the night are able to do. It's a good way of showing how flawed many of the doctors depicted in the film are since many of them compare unfavorably to someone who doesn't even have a medical degree.
Overall, I'd say this is a great film given how Puiu did so much with such a simple premise. It hooked me right at the beginning and held on to me firmly throughout the whole film. This one gets a strong recommendation for sure.
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SpelingError
12-17-21, 01:03 PM
I've not heard of Death of Mr. Lazarescu either, how in the hell does it make the list when no one has heard of it?
Hopefully, it making this list will encourage some more people to check it out.
Citizen Rules
12-17-21, 01:13 PM
Hopefully, it making this list will encourage some more people to check it out.It probably well because one of the neat things about these countdowns are the list they generate and some MoFos will make it a point to watch the movies that they haven't seen.
Of course my few recent post about Death of Mr. Lazarescu will help encourage people to watch it, most of all;)
SpelingError
12-17-21, 01:13 PM
I know SpelingError will enjoy one of those.
You know me too well :D
MovieMeditation
12-17-21, 01:13 PM
Never heard of the first one. Battle Royale was fine but didn’t care much for it. Saw it a long time ago though.
Those are valid points, but I do see the empowerment in terms that they are capable women, all of them able to hold their own in many ways against the environment and against the creatures. They just happen to be in an impossible situation.
Agreed, and I was sort of just busting balls with my post. I am one of those weirdos that thinks Juno is a fairly complex and interesting character, and I think Sarah is a total bad ass.
I haven’t been watching a lot the last couple weeks, but I definitely will get to Lazarus and Diving Bell before we hit the end of the list.
MovieFan1988
12-17-21, 01:24 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/zGZJvzbP/OMG.gif (https://postimages.org/)
me when I see movies that I have not seen yet make the list
Have seen so far: 6
Have not seen so far: 18
lol, have never seen any of the two recent movies
Critics
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Critics thoughts on our #78, The Death of Mr. Lazarescu...
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It currently has a 94% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 7.9/10 score on IMDb (with 15,000 votes).
Roger Ebert gave it ★★★★ and said:
"The movie is not heartless but it is matter-of-fact, and makes no attempt to heighten the drama. In its relentless gaze at exactly what happens, it reminds me of the Dardenne brothers (The Son, L'Enfant), whose films see everything but do not intervene."
Meanwhile Kyle Smith, of New York Post, gave it ★½ said:
"It's supposed to be about a Kafkaesque experience. Instead, it is a Kafkaesque experience. Why are we here? Is everything absurd? Is anyone in charge?"
As for our MoFo reviewers, Thursday Next said:
"It is not an easy film to watch, certainly, at times it is quite dull, although you are never in doubt that this is entirely deliberate. It is, however, quite mesmerising. Worth watching, it will stay with you for some time afterwards."
And Golgot said:
"Its pot-boiler approach churns intriguing ingredients to the surface at first, then enters the dyspeptic world of the hospitals. Be prepared for dourness, power games, and a care community stretched to the max. Caustic humour and a web of catching hands try to stand our protagonist on his feet. Little exchanges illuminate long meetings. People get reduced to notes and anecdotes, but personalities survive in this tale."
Critics
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Critics thoughts on our #77, Battle Royale...
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It currently has a 88% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 7.6/10 score on IMDb (with 178,000 votes).
Roger Ebert said:
"It's remarkable that a movie with such potential for thoughtless tawdry thrills manages to say something about the human condition. Battle Royale is a very rare beast. An intensely violent fable aimed at a young audience, but with true feeling, intelligence, and respect."
Meanwhile Chuck Bowen, of Slant, gave it ★½ said:
"I assume that the film’s considerable cult believes Battle Royale to be edgy and subversive, and that my reservations reflect a delicate, prudish sensibility that couldn’t handle whatever the film thinks it’s peddling. But movies this smug and determined in their ability to shock aren’t shocking, just dull. Maybe Battle Royale’s ultimate punchline is its inexplicable ability to fool some people into taking it seriously."
As for our MoFo reviewers, CiCi said:
"I probably didn't sell this very well, but this is certainly one of the greatest films, and certainly book adaptation, that I have ever had the fortune of seeing. With the vast array of characters, I can guarantee you will find at least one character who deeply relates to you and your experiences; like how I did."
And Nestorio_Miklos said:
"This is widely considered as a cult movie and pretends to send a message however I don't see any message to anyone. All I see is some minor paperback that you buy at the airport for 2 bucks to spend your flight by reading a garbage that you don't have to much reflect about and then just toss it to a waste bin or leave it behind on your seat and ever forget about it."
I wanna go back to the dilemma on how known Lazarescu is to MoFo posters and point out that in IMDb, it only has 15,000 ratings, as opposed to the last couple of entries:
Battle Royale - 178,000
American Psycho - 538,000
The Descent - 215,000
So that ratio kinda equates to the reaction we see here with a good bunch of people not even knowing about it, while still making it on the list on the strength of a handful of really solid votes.
Trailers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5XkrZVt5nM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0p1t-dC7Ko
TheUsualSuspect
12-17-21, 01:50 PM
Count me in with the plebs that have never heard of The Death of Mr. Lazarescu.
20. Battle Royale (2000)
First watched this film in high school and loved it. There have been some imitators since, but nothing really matches the ferocity of this film. A guy gets stabbed repeatedly in the genitals because he tries to sexually assault a female student. The level of violence in the film might shock some, entertain others and leave those select few maybe even speechless.
You'll have a lot of fun watching students kill each other...is that weird to say? In a film where each student is given a random weapon, one kid gets a garbage can lid, you never really know what to expect. Battle Royale still manages to entertain 20+ years after the fact and the less said about the sequel, the better.
25. American Psycho
20. Battle Royale
So, Battle Royale is one I'm 99% certain I have seen, but apparently before I kept fairly careful track. My (faint) recollection is that I was not overly impressed, but I guess I should give it another go.
I'm delighted that The Death of Mr. Lazarescu made the list, however. It was my #15. It is indeed slow, and the story it tells is painful, but deeply human. Here's what I wrote about it earlier this year:
There seems to be some debate over whether this is a dark comedy or just a drama. The absurdly misleading Romanian poster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Mr._Lazarescu#/media/File:Moartea_domnului_lazarescu0.jpg) suggests that the producers at least wanted to market it as a comedy, although that poster makes it look like a movie version of Scrubs, which, well, maybe if it were a Scrubs movie written by Jean-Paul Sartre. Anyway, it is a dark comedy, but very dark. Like, makes Fargo look like The Three Stooges dark. A lonely old man feels ill, calls for aid, and then, accompanied by a dedicated paramedic, must navigate the kafkaesque workings of the Romanian health system. It is grimly comic and poignant, and, despite its length, never dull.
I do hope its appearance on this list encourages people to check it out. It's on Netflix, so no excuses!
honeykid
12-17-21, 02:44 PM
I sat down to watch The Death of Mister Lazarescu and within about 5 minutes knew that I wasn't in the right mood to watch it, especially considering how long it is. I still think it might be something I'd like but I can't see me ever trying again. Not any time soon, anyway.
Battle Royale I loved. I saw it when it came out (technically before it came out here) and it was one of those films I showed everyone I thought would like it asap. As has been mentioned, Columbine had happened less than a year before and a friend of mine was over here with her American husband and I showed it to them. He loved it, but said, there's no way they're showing that anytime soon back in the States. Not because people wouldn't enjoy it, but because they'd be torn apart for showing it.
I've not seen it for at least 15 years but I think I'd still like it.
Wyldesyde19
12-17-21, 02:48 PM
Question about Battle Royale. Tubi has it streaming, but it is in English. Was it released dubbed to the US, or is that a Tubi decision?
For what it’s worth, Tubi usually don’t dub their foreign films, so I am slightly confused on the matter.
Tubi don't dub.
Oh Tubi dubs. Tubi dubs REAL good. Ain't that right, Tubi?
For some reason I hear Ben Stiller and Robert De Niro voice-acting those lines.
mattiasflgrtll6
12-17-21, 03:29 PM
Why, if I may ask?
Pussy Galore
12-17-21, 04:09 PM
I'm surprised that there is a film I never heard of on the list! That's cool, I'm going to watch it.
John Dumbear
12-17-21, 04:13 PM
I have heard of it and seen it, at the Portland International Film Festival. It wasn't anywhere near my ballot but five voters liked it quite a bit, apparently.
Nor have I.
But after reading the reviews and posts here, reminds me of '71's "The Hospital" starring George C. Scott and Diana Rigg. A dark comedy set in a poorly financed medical center which exposes flaws within our own health care system.
CosmicRunaway
12-17-21, 04:24 PM
Count me in as another member of the "death of who now?" group. I might have to add that one to my watchlist.
I saw Battle Royale about 15 years ago, and was not particularly impressed. However, I had been hearing from friends that it was absolutely amazing, so I think my expectations were set too high. Whenever we get a copy of the book in at work I consider giving the film another chance, but it hasn't exactly been a high priority.
Seen: 10/24
My List:
08. Mother (2009) - #96
10. Iron Man (2008) - #83
25. Bon Cop, Bad Cop (2006) - 1-pointer
jiraffejustin
12-17-21, 04:26 PM
Kitano has X-Pac heat for me.
Damn.
edarsenal
12-17-21, 04:30 PM
Haven't seen the first but fully enjoyed SpelingError's review of it.
Battle Royale has bounced around from loving it to simply enjoying teenagers killing teenagers because Kitano says so.
Is it wrong to say that? Of course, it is! Hence the reason FOR saying it ;):cool:
Films Watched 13 out of 24 (54.17%)
17. Mother (#96)
25. A Bittersweet Life (One Pointer)
One Pointers: 10 out of 38 (26.31%)
mrblond
12-17-21, 05:44 PM
• I heard about Battle Royale for the first time about six months ago and saw it soon after that. Initially, I was very sceptical and the cheap production doesn't help much but... wow, what a brave filmmakers.
In a way, the film is somewhat positive that people exist who at least filmed an illusion that the good guys took control and try to clean the world of the Orcs. Naturally, the end was poor (the good guy must be dead) - this is a must otherwise filmmakers risk to be banned by the regime.
By the way, this year we have another work by these kind of alarming creative groups, this time in a form of a TV series ;) - one of the most popular works world wide of the last years (guess which).
I briefly considered Battle Royale for my ballot. It would be my #30, I guess.
▷ This movie is ranked #21 in MoFo 2000 Film Chart (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=64356).
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• One more here never heard The Death of Mr. Lazarescu.
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Seen 10/24.
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My list:
#9. Amores perros [#81.]
#14. The Man Who Wasn't There [#84.]
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(seen one pointers 3/38)
Harry Lime
12-17-21, 07:26 PM
Battle Royale is decent enough and figured it would make this list. As for that "other film no one has heard of" it's awesome that it made it and definitely curious to see some reviews here if you decide to give it a chance.
4. Werckmeister Harmonies (2000)
6. Caché (2005)
9. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (2005)
25. Atanarjuat: The Fast Runner (2001)
cricket
12-17-21, 07:55 PM
I've been meaning to try Battle Royale again since I didn't think much of it the first time, even though it seems to be right in my wheelhouse.
I'm another who hasn't heard of the other movie. I want to see it, just like I want to see every movie that pops up on these countdowns.
Rockatansky
12-17-21, 08:14 PM
I voted for American Psycho and am glad to see it make the list. As an adaptation, it doesn't match the transgression of the source novel (which is not at all for the faint of heart), but makes up for it with a god tier Christian Bale performance.
I remember mostly enjoying The Descent (aside from one character), but didn't vote for it.
I think Battle Royale is conceptually clever, but also found it at times a chore to watch. Mad respect however to Takeshi Kitano, who spends most of his screentime yelling and eating snacks in the same room. I need to dig further into Fukasaku's work (loved Under the Flag of the Rising Sun, was lukewarm on The Yakuza Papers).
Why, if I may ask?
Nothing wrong with the concept, I just think it's awfully made in every aspect.
mattiasflgrtll6
12-17-21, 08:27 PM
Another great movie starring Kitano is Hana-bi. I love Kayoko Kishimoto in it as well.
rauldc14
12-17-21, 08:31 PM
This just doesn't feel like the 2000s best to me. Of course when you haven't seen most of the films that would be the reason.
I'm going to protest the clues until something awesome shows up.
rauldc14
12-17-21, 08:34 PM
I'll give my own clues to tomorrow's films:
Raul has not seen it
And neither have you
One is a horror
And one will make you feel blue
But not a horror like The Ring
Something much worse than that
Think you have any idea?
Maybe the movie features a rat
PHOENIX74
12-17-21, 10:58 PM
78. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu : This is the second film from my list to show up - I had The Death of Mr. Lazarescu at #13 and recommend it to everyone here - all you need is a heart and soul to feel empathy with, and you'll understand how painful it is for people to deal with bureaucracy and a complex machine-like medical monster that many health systems have become. A man needs help. He's beset by snowballing and painful failures in his body, and he starts to die as he's shuttled from hospital to hospital as health care workers bicker, argue, make mistakes and at times honestly try to help him. Throughout he'll lose his dignity, suffer tremendously and become - for a time - something of a cause for one lone ambulance driver trying to help him. It's an angry scream of a film regarding Romania's health system - but it's the kind of system that develops all over the world, where the humanity has been squeezed from our hospitals, making them seem almost alien and their doctors exhausted automatons who barely notice the people they're treating anymore. A superb film.
77. Battle Royale : I haven't seen Battle Royale since it came out, but I still have vivid memories of it - when the Hunger Games books and movies came out I was reminded straight away of this, because it's basically the same thing, except in this Japanese society it's schoolkids who must kill each other to be crowned champions. I don't know how this society got to that stage - and how many people thought "Yeah, that's a great idea!" It's as dark and violent as you'd expect - with a sombre moment or two that I won't describe in case you haven't seen it. I guess I'll watch it again one day - this is the second time it's showed up in a countdown, the last being the foreign language one, so people obviously have a high regard for it. If I'd absolutely loved it I'd have it - but I simply thought it was okay and moved on. I might read up on it a little before I seek it out for a rewatch.
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Films I've seen : 15
Films that have been on my radar : 5
Films I've never even heard of : 4
Films from my list : 3
#78 - My #13 - The Death of Mr. Lazarescu - (2005)
#84 - My #21 - The Man Who Wasn't There (2001)
One pointer - World's Greatest Dad (2009)
Been without Internet all night, even on the phone until a while ago, but hopefully tomorrow is another day. If I can, I'll post some hints early morning.
Sleep tight :)
gbgoodies
12-18-21, 01:57 AM
I've never heard of The Death of Mr. Lazarescu.
The first time I heard of Battle Royale was when it made the Foreign Language Movies Countdown, but it didn't sound like my type of movie, so I haven't seen it.
rauldc14
12-18-21, 06:30 AM
Been without Internet all night, even on the phone until a while ago, but hopefully tomorrow is another day. If I can, I'll post some hints early morning.
Sleep tight :)
Already got that covered for you.
dadgumblah
12-18-21, 08:12 AM
Like quite a few here, haven't even heard of The Death of Mr. Lazarescu, but definitely have heard of and watched Battle Royale and really liked it. But it has been a while since I've watched it so it wasn't under any serious consideration for my list.
#20.Iron Man 83
#23.The Descent 80
Awards
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Now to the awards received by The Death of Mr. Lazarescu...
Cannes Film Festival Un Certain Regard Award (Cristi Puiu)
Bratislava International Film Festival Prize of the Ecumenical Jury, Special Jury Prize and Special Mention (Puiu)
BBC Four World Cinema Award Winner
Indiewire Critics' Poll Award for Best Film
Trieste Film Festival Winner
Among many, many others.
As for Battle Royale, it won...
Japanese Academy Award for Film Editing (Hirohide Abe)
Japanese Academy Award for Popularity
Japanese Academy Award for Newcomer of the Year (Tatsuya Fujiwara and Aki Maeda)
Blue Ribbon Award for Best Film and Best New Actor (Fujiwara)
Yokohama Film Festival Award for Best Supporting Actress (Kou Shibasaki)
Trivia
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The Death of Mr. Lazarescu
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Did you know that...
director Cristi Puiu was inspired by the bureaucratic troubles he went through while trying to get grants from the Romanian public institution that finances filmmaking?
between 2001 and 2003, Puiu was suffering from stress, and frequently sought medical help as a result of hypochondria? He became convinced that he had a terminal illness and spent a lot of time in doctors' offices and ERs, which he translated into the film.
filming was completed over 39 nights and was shot in real hospitals?
the names of the main character, Dante Remus Lazarescu, could be references to Dante Alighieri (who wrote about the circles of Hell) and Lazarus, who was raised from the dead in the Bible?
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Trivia
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Battle Royale
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Did you know that...
director Kinji Fukasaku subjected about 800 potential cast members to a 6-month period of physical fitness training before narrowing the cast to 42?
Fukasaku was driven to direct the film after the novel reminded him of his time working at a munitions factory during World War II? Fukasaku was 15 years old and in July 1945, the factory came under fire, forcing the children to dive under each other and then dispose of the corpses of the dead. He has said he developed a distrust of the government and adults in general.
none of the cast members had stunt doubles?
Quentin Tarantino is a huge fan of the film, which is why he cast Chiaki Kuriyama as GoGo Yubari in Kill Bill Vol. 1?
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Refreshing yesterday's hint...
Hey, buddy. I don't like this place.
Don't wanna end up in a trunk
Or with a ghost looking at my face.
Hey, buddy. Help me with the job.
Things are dropping from the sky
But I wanna hang out with the famous and snob.
I'm still without Internet, so reveal might come earlier than usual... or later than usual.
John W Constantine
12-18-21, 09:48 AM
URRRRRRRRRlllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Please and thanks.
rauldc14
12-18-21, 10:27 AM
I'm still without Internet, so reveal might come earlier than usual... or later than usual.
Isn't this whole countdown predicated upon my sleep schedule? You got an hour and a half :)
Yeah rookie mistake, gotta plan around Raul Van Winkle or he'll never let you hear the end of it.
rauldc14
12-18-21, 10:49 AM
He has plenty of time though the next three days when I'm off. Then I transform into Raul Julia.
82 points, 8 listsKiss Kiss Bang Bang (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/5236-kiss-kiss-bang-bang.html)Director
Shane Black, 2005
Starring
Robert Downey Jr., Val Kilmer, Michelle Monaghan, Corbin Bernsen
83 points, 6 listsThe Devil's Backbone (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/1433-the-devils-backbone.html)Director
Guillermo del Toro, 2001
Starring
Marisa Paredes, Eduardo Noriega, Federico Luppi, Fernando Tielve
crumbsroom
12-18-21, 11:20 AM
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang?????
Apparently we needed this curveball to ensure I haven't seen every movie on the list :( (and almost certainly, never will)
Breakdown of the hint...
Refreshing yesterday's hint...
Hey, buddy. I don't like this place. (First buddy, because KKBB is a buddy comedy... and I don't like the haunted place in TDB)
Don't wanna end up in a trunk (someone ends in a trunk in KKBB)
Or with a ghost looking at my face. (obvious to TDB)
Hey, buddy. Help me with the job. (Second buddy, two buddies, get it? Help with the job is what Downey's character needs)
Things are dropping from the sky (the bomb in TDB)
But I wanna hang out with the famous and snob. (Downey & Co. hanging out with rich and famous)
There you go.
Miss Vicky
12-18-21, 11:26 AM
I watched Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang for the 11th Hall of Fame back in 2016. I had to look that up because I couldn't remember when I'd watched it or what I'd thought of it. According to my write-up for that HOF, it was actually a rewatch but I all I could remember from the initial viewing was that I wasn't impressed. I rated it a 3.5 but gave a very lukewarm write-up. I must've been feeling generous with my ratings that day. In any case, it's apparently a very forgettable movie for me and obviously did not make my ballot.
I haven't seen The Devil's Backbone.
ScarletLion
12-18-21, 11:28 AM
I have seen Kiss Kiss Bang Bang but it didn't leave any impression on me.
The Devil's Backbone is a great film. Del Toro's best. It has the menacing horror of Franco's regime in the background and is clear lineage from films like Spirit of the Beehive in that respect. Glad to see it here, but it just missed out on my list, I was quite dismayed I had to cut it out to be honest..
Thought I watched Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, but apparently I haven’t.
I can say almost the same exact thing about every Del Toro. Imaginative concept, very cool visually, but I don’t quite connect enough for it to be a favorite. Good movie though.
Chypmunk
12-18-21, 11:30 AM
Yay, back on the diet :)
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was certainly in contention for a spot on my ballot but didn't quite make it in the end. The Devil's Backbone is also an enjoyable enough watch but was never really in contention.
Seen: 16/26 (Own: 13/26)
3. Madeo [Mother] (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216496/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#96]
16. The Descent (2005) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#80]
25. The Pool (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0911024/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_6) [1-ptr]
Faildictions (millennial edition v1.0):
74. Salinui chueok [Memories Of Murder] (2003)
73. Inside Man (2006)
Citizen Rules
12-18-21, 11:37 AM
I seen Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Val Kilmer was good in it and the colorfully zealous movie was a good fit for a colorfully zealous Robert Downey Jr....Didn't make my list but I did consider it.
Holden Pike
12-18-21, 11:37 AM
83533
Shane Black's hysterical Kiss Kiss Bang Bang somehow missed making the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium List. Guillermo del Toro's The Devil's Backbone didn't make the cut there either though it did place at #76 for the first MoFo Top 100 Horror Films and dropped to #89 for the 2019 reboot of that list.
ueno_station54
12-18-21, 11:48 AM
haven't seen either of today's films and likely won't :)
CosmicRunaway
12-18-21, 12:01 PM
A couple years ago Kiss Kiss Bang Bang might've been in my top 10. It's on my list, but it's at #16 now. I still regularly quote lines of the film (particularly Kilmer's "Who taught you math!?") but it's no longer one of the Christmas-adjacent films I watch every holiday season.
I watched The Devil's Backbone after it showed up on the last Horror Countdown. I thought it was okay.
Seen: 12/26
My List:
08. Mother (2009) - #96
10. Iron Man (2008) - #83
16. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (2005) - #76
25. Bon Cop, Bad Cop (2006) - 1-pointer
KeyserCorleone
12-18-21, 12:08 PM
I need to see both of these. I really like Del Toro. Hellboy is some of the most fun I've had for a superhero movie. I'm familiar with Shane Black, too, although the only one of his movies I've seen is Iron Man 3.
Pride and Prejudice was a lot of fun to watch. The characters were very strong and perfectly acted. 95. Not enough to make my post-ballot, but still good.
Seen 14/26
rauldc14
12-18-21, 12:26 PM
This is seriously the most goofy countdown ever
Iroquois
12-18-21, 12:33 PM
No votes. I generally like Shane Black's work but somehow Kiss Kiss Bang Bang has never clicked with me no matter how many chances I give it. I've seen The Devil's Backbone once and never felt much like revisiting it.
rauldc14
12-18-21, 12:34 PM
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is ok but I don't think it belongs on a list like this.
Devil's Rejects is a film that I may or may not like. It's certainly one of them that I haven't seen that I may watch sooner rather than later.
John Dumbear
12-18-21, 12:37 PM
Have not seen either. But am a fan of Del Toro, so it's on my list.
The Devil's Backbone is OK horror. Not Del Toro's best, but surely not his worst either. Haven't seen the other. No votes from me.
Iroquois
12-18-21, 12:42 PM
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is ok but I don't think it belongs on a list like this.
Eh, I recognise that it has enough of a cult reputation that I could see it on the low end of a list like this. I'm not going to be surprised when Donnie Darko ends up in the top 25.
cricket
12-18-21, 12:58 PM
Seen The Devil's Backbone a couple of times and I like it quite a bit. I like how what could be an average story is elevated by staging it in a more unusual time and place.
Seen Kiss Kiss Bang Bang once and didn't care for it.
SpelingError
12-18-21, 01:00 PM
Haven't seen either film, but I've been meaning to check them both out for a while. I chose a different Del Toro for my list.
John W Constantine
12-18-21, 01:05 PM
I generally enjoy Shane Black's ridiculous buddycop writing but I didn't care much for KKBB when I watched it again at some point a year ago.
The Devil's Backbone on the other hand I did enjoy quite a bit and it found a spot on my list for this countdown. #15
Deschain
12-18-21, 01:21 PM
3 days in a row a movie from my list made it. Love KKBB. Goofy, fun, endlessly rewatchable.
Devil’s Backbone is probably my favorite Del Toro and it’s a sin I forgot about it when making my list.
This is seriously the most goofy countdown ever
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Still just two from my list but not these.
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is probably the best, funniest of Shane Black's comedy-mysteries. This is an example of why you will [or won't] like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkGH8YtIbic
The Devil's Backbone is a solid horror no matter what. I know people who think it's better than Pan's Labyrinth, but I'm not one of them.
edarsenal
12-18-21, 02:29 PM
Devil's BackBone is an exceptional del Torro film. I had seen this after Hellboy and was impressed by this slow-burning film where the tension permeates and lurks in your peripheral. Building it up instead of unrelentingly hitting you over the head.
It has been a while since seeing this and should get a revisit as is it's due.
And, yeah, mark f Pan's Labyrinth IS better.
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was #14 for me.
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Who thought that scene-stealing Robert Downey Jr would be shown HOW it's done, and it's one of the many things I get an utter f@ckin delight for when he is paired up with Val Kilmer AND Michelle Monaghan, who rises above the trope of Love Intrest/Girl in Distress.
KKBB is a tongue-in-cheek poke, as well as a tip of the hat to the Sh#t Goes Sideways Crime Film with noir influences infused with a fast-paced smart-@ss comedy and a penchant for f@cking with the fourth wall.
Oh, and for CosmicRunaway:
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Films Watched 15 out of 26 (57.69%)
14. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (#76)
17. Mother (#96)
25. A Bittersweet Life (One Pointer)
One Pointers: 10 out of 38 (26.31%)
MovieMeditation
12-18-21, 03:19 PM
None of them were on my list, but both are really good. Thats all I have to say I guess.
So far this countdown feels so weird to me. Such a weird mix of movies thus far.
Pussy Galore
12-18-21, 04:11 PM
I don't really like Del Toro so I haven'T seen the Devil's Backbone.
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is one of the film I most passionately hate. It is unfunny, boring, uninteresting. It tries to be subversive and meta, but it tries to hard and it makes me roll my eyes constantly. An absolute trash of a film if you ask me hahahaha.
mrblond
12-18-21, 05:20 PM
Never heard neither #75 nor #76 and there is a small chance to conceive an interest...
Looking forward to see tomorrow's pair of films...
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Seen 10/26.
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My list:
#9. Amores perros [#81.]
#14. The Man Who Wasn't There [#84.]
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(seen one pointers 3/38)
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou [#98]
Werckmeister Harmonies [#97]
Pride & Prejudice [#93]
Caché [#85]
American Psycho [#79]
Battle Royale [#77]
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dadgumblah
12-18-21, 06:11 PM
Have seen and loved both films. The Devil's Backbone was the first Del Toro I ever saw and I was immediately drawn into his world of, um, otherworldliness. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is an utter hoot and made my list. I'm surprised by how many from the 2000s I've seen that are actually making the list. Haven't had this much success on a list so soon in a long while, maybe since the 70s Countdown, although I'm going by memory and that's an iffy thing these days. :)
#20.Iron Man 83
#23.The Descent 80
#25.Kiss Kiss Bang Bang 76
GulfportDoc
12-18-21, 07:56 PM
I seen Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Val Kilmer was good in it and the colorfully zealous movie was a good fit for a colorfully zealous Robert Downey Jr....Didn't make my list but I did consider it.
Yeah, I thought KKBB was a cute comedy, and probably is as good a fit as any other for #76. I especially enjoyed Val Kilmer in his part.
I haven't seen The Devil's Backbone.
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Heeey, here I am... I've seen these last two films. I remember liking The Devil's Backbone quite a bit, but I haven't seen it in a very long time. That's why I didn't considered it. I really wanted to rewatch it last month when I had a challenge to watch a Guillermo del Toro film, but went with Crimson Peak instead, which was pretty good also.
As for Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, I didn't have it on my list, but I like it a lot. But since it begs the comparison, I kinda prefer The Nice Guys. Takoma11 has said a few times that some people's preference might depend on which one you saw first, and I did see The Nice Guys first. Not sure if that's why I prefer it, but there's that, but KKBB is pretty good, and it does have one of my favorite quotes ever :laugh:
Perry: Jesus. Look up "idiot" in the dictionary. You know what you'll find?
Harry: A picture of me?
Perry: No! The definition of the word idiot, which you ****ing are!
Seen: 15/26
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rauldc14
12-18-21, 09:53 PM
I just realized I didn't even vote for the film that I have an avatar of.
PHOENIX74
12-18-21, 10:01 PM
76. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang : After an eternity, and having remembered enjoying it, I rewatched Kiss Kiss Bang Bang early on in my preparation for this countdown. Quick-witted, it gives Val Kilmer another chance to show off a sense of humour he came to the acting profession well-equipped with, and although I don't like Robert Downey Jnr all that much he's excellent here and matches Kilmer, playing off of him quite well. A very loose and funny take on the adaptations of hardboiled crime novels of earlier times. I knew it wasn't quite enough to break into my list, but my fondness for it made me wish and hope that it would show up in the countdown and I'm pretty happy that it did. Shane Black would go on to make another even better version of this kind of film with Russel Crowe and Ryan Gosling - The Nice Guys. To all of those who voted for this : Thank you!
75. The Devil's Backbone : I'd watched a lot of Guillermo del Toro's stuff by the time I got around to this, and really liked it. Something about The Devil's Backbone simply didn't click with me though, and I've sat through it twice to be sure. I remember kids, the bomb, a supposed ghost - something to do with cruelty to the kids or one of the kids. It hasn't stuck with me really well, but if I were to watch it again it would all come flooding back. I watched the trailer, and while I still remember it, it didn't help bring back all of the plot details. It's been too long. There's another, better Guillermo del Toro film that's sure to crack this list much higher up. In the meantime I'll ponder whether I should give this film yet another go considering how it's held in such high regard.
Seen 17/26
Critics
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Critics thoughts on our #76, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang...
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It currently has an 86% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 7.5/10 score on IMDb (with 222,000 votes).
Roger Ebert gave it ★★½ and said:
"Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang contains a lot of comedy and invention, but doesn't much benefit from its clever style. The characters and plot are so promising that maybe Black should have backed off and told the story deadpan, instead of mugging so shamelessly for laughs. It could still be a comedy, but it wouldn't always be digging its elbow into our ribs. I kept wanting to add my own subtitles: 'I get it! I get it!'"
Meanwhile Christy Lemire, of Associated Press, gave it ★★★ and said:
"Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang is as much fun as the title suggests, and packed with banter that rolls off the tongue just as easily."
As for our MoFo reviewers, JayDee said:
"It entertains as a delightfully dark comedy, intrigues as a noirish mystery, bites as a Hollywood satire, delights as a buddy flick and works as a deconstruction of the genre. Oh and a couple of final thoughts. The film is further heightened by a great jazzy score from John Ottman, and an immensely cool animated title sequence in the vein of vintage Saul Bass. To this day I feel that it still remains a bit of a cult gem; hopefully one day it will grow to become a much wider appreciated film. I just love it!"
And Iroquois said:
"Kiss Kiss Bang Bang may have many hallmarks of a great genre comedy and should theoretically be a film I enjoy, but I just can't seem to get into it. Black's writing has provided a good backbone for action movies in the past, but stripping away the pyrotechnics does reveal how hollow his formula can be even as he goes for noir-ish parody instead of straight action. The film's attempts at comedy, which cover everything from snappy interplay between the leads to snide mockery of the entertainment industry, tend to come across as mildly clever more so than genuinely hilarious."
Critics
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Critics thoughts on our #75, The Devil's Backbone...
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It currently has an 92% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 7.4/10 score on IMDb (with 64,000 votes).
Roger Ebert gave it ★★★ and said:
"The Devil's Backbone has been compared to The Others, and has the same ambition and intelligence, but is more compelling and even convincing."
Meanwhile Gerald Peary, of the Boston Phoenix, gave it ★★ and said:
"Del Toro is good at spooky atmosphere, and he's got a first-rate locale, an isolated, abysmally rundown hacienda baked under the hot, yellow Mexican sun that stands in for an orphanage. But the acting is clunky, and the story is straight-to-midnight-movie stunted and not very believable."
As for our MoFo reviewers, pahaK said:
"More focus on the boys, more focus on the ghost and less underlining of Jacinto's vileness would have improved the film, I think. It looks good, is mostly well acted but ultimately feels like an early draft for something great (possibly Pan's Labyrinth)."
Trailers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__PnD1HWXSo
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Awards
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Now to the awards received by Kiss Kiss Bang Bang...
Empire Award for Best Thriller
Phoenix Film Critics Society Award for Overlooked Film of the Year
San Diego Film Critics Society Award for Best Screenplay (Shane Black)
Satellite Award for Outstanding Actor in a Supporting Role (Val Kilmer)
As for The Devil's Backbone, it won...
Amsterdam Fantastic Film Festival Grand Prize of European Fantasy Film in Silver
Gérardmer Film Festival International Critics Award, Special Jury Prize, and Youth Jury Grand Prize
Young Artist Award for Best Young Actor in an International Film (Fernando Tielve)
Trivia
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Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
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Did you know that...
Shane Black was inspired by Brett Halliday's Bodies Are Where You Find Them and he homaged Raymond Chandler with the chapter titles?
Benicio del Toro, Hugh Grant, and Johnny Knoxville were considered for the lead role?
As a show of support for Robert Downey Jr, Val Kilmer refused to drink during the entire production?
this is Downey, Jr's favorite film of his?
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Trivia
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The Devil's Backbone
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Did you know that...
Guillermo del Toro wrote a whole biography of the character of Jacinto, which he gave to Eduardo Noriega as background and inspiration for his performance?
this is the only del Toro film where neither Ron Perlman nor Doug Jones appear?
the ghost design was inspired by Japanese horror films like Ju-on and Ringu?
in order to make Fernando Tielve cry, del Toro would complain of his acting skills out loud and express disappointment with his work?
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Aaaaand finally... hint!
Open the door
What do I see
There's a couple
Looking at me
Open the door
Darn, she's a great girl
Do I take the plunge
Or do I cower and curl?
Open the door
and go back inside
Take nothing with you
Just enjoy the ride
pahaK might like it and dislIke it at the same time.
SpelingError
12-18-21, 11:22 PM
Aaaaand finally... hint!
Open the door
What do I see
There's a couple
Looking at me
Open the door
Darn, she's a great girl
Do I take the plunge
Or do I cower and curl?
Open the door
and go back inside
Take nothing with you
Just enjoy the ride
Million Dollar Baby, perhaps?
StuSmallz
12-18-21, 11:31 PM
Takoma11Speaking of who, has anyone seen Takoma anywhere lately?
I didn't see her, but she was at the site 50 minutes ago.
PHOENIX74
12-18-21, 11:41 PM
I'm liking these hints - obscure enough to never be sure. I want to have a shot at a guess - I think one might be :
Sideways? It feels too early for Sideways, but that's my guess.
ApexPredator
12-19-21, 12:21 AM
Aaaaand finally... hint!
Open the door
What do I see
There's a couple
Looking at me
Open the door
Darn, she's a great girl
Do I take the plunge
Or do I cower and curl?
Open the door
and go back inside
Take nothing with you
Just enjoy the ride
Perhaps Up in the Air? And maybe The Wrestler?
I've seen Battle Royale. I don't think I had it under consideration, but I thought it was pretty solid. Kind of dark humored, but it's done well.
Haven't seen the other three, but I do want to. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, I imagine has some crackling dialogue working for it. The Devil's Backbone is from the same director of Pan's Labyrinth and I imagine it'd be right up my alley. And the Death of Mr. Lazarescu would probably anger me and sadden me, but the concept at the same time is interesting.
I didn't want to dive into spoilers with The Descent, but I do think Thief hit the nail on the head with what I was trying to say. These women could rely on themselves to get out of messes without a man having to drag/carry them out. The thing they face just happens to be brutal. And yes, the dynamics between them prove to be challenging as well.
Deschain
12-19-21, 12:30 AM
Speaking of who, has anyone seen Takoma anywhere lately?
I see her in the horror thread and the rate the last movie you watched thread quite frequently.
SpelingError
12-19-21, 01:53 AM
I just noticed that Takoma hasn't posted here for the past three days.
gbgoodies
12-19-21, 01:56 AM
I watched Kiss Kiss Bang Bang when it was nominated in a HoF a while back. I didn't love it, but I liked it enough to buy the DVD. I rewatched it for this countdown, and I liked it more this time than I did the first time I saw it, but it still didn't make my list.
I've never heard of The Devil's Backbone.
Rockatansky
12-19-21, 02:32 AM
I forgot to vote for Del Toro (such is the price of spending a total of five minutes on my list), but had I remembered, Hellboy II would have gotten my vote.
StuSmallz
12-19-21, 03:58 AM
I just noticed that Takoma hasn't posted here for the past three days.
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rauldc14
12-19-21, 06:46 AM
Million Dollar Baby doesn't make sense with me for the hint.
Sideways maybe perhaps. I've seen the film though so probably not.
Probably some goofy horror film and some middle of the road foreign movie.
MovieMeditation
12-19-21, 07:44 AM
Million Dollar Baby doesn't make sense with me for the hint.
Sideways maybe perhaps. I've seen the film though so probably not.
Probably some goofy horror film and some middle of the road foreign movie.
:lol:
ueno_station54
12-19-21, 09:26 AM
Probably some goofy horror film and some middle of the road foreign movie.
https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o6fJeAiIpk5EeoC8o/200.gif
KeyserCorleone
12-19-21, 10:56 AM
Coraline and The Wrestler?
Every countdown I end up reminding people that usually not seeing any of your films (or films you know/like) early on tends to mean they're just gonna place higher. So you can be bummed out now, or later. :D And "later" is a much longer period of time than "now."
rauldc14
12-19-21, 11:14 AM
Well, we better hope we aren't bummed out for the whole countdown. But it does seem like voting demographics have changed.
Chypmunk
12-19-21, 11:14 AM
All of the fillums on my ballot are 100% gonna make an appearance. If not 'now' or 'later' then certainly they will when I get to reveal what I voted for. I've never had one of mine not get a mention yet :D
rauldc14
12-19-21, 11:17 AM
Here, we will use this to turn the countdown around:
https://i.gifer.com/fetch/w300-preview/a8/a8a554f007964c46b859579200c51701.gif
The Mega Gong
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is a lot of fun.
Just wanted to say that.
Just woke up from a much needed nap...
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/91/15/d4/9115d4bd9a75050112efd98c38c9bce6.gif
...so reveals in a few minutes
84 points, 5 listsMonsters, Inc. (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/585-monsters-inc..html)Director
Pete Docter, 2001
Starring
John Goodman, Billy Crystal, Mary Gibbs, Steve Buscemi
86 points, 9 listsPunch-Drunk Love (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/8051-punch-drunk-love.html)Director
Paul Thomas Anderson, 2002
Starring
Adam Sandler, Emily Watson, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Luis Guzmán
KeyserCorleone
12-19-21, 11:50 AM
OK, my problem with The Devil's Backbone is that it's more "chilling" than "scary." Not enough ghost horror. BUT the story was really good anyway. Excellent acting, very hatable villain, good ending. 91.
EDIT: How the **** did I not guess Monsters Inc.? It's been a while since I've seen it, but I've always loved it. 93.
I've been interested in checking out Punch Drunk Love since it's a rare breed: an Adam Sandler movie people love.
Seen 16/28
honeykid
12-19-21, 11:50 AM
This is seriously the most goofy countdown ever
That SC impersonation is coming along splendidly, raul. :D
Sideways maybe perhaps. I've seen the film though so probably not.
Probably some goofy horror film and some middle of the road foreign movie.
Really! Very, very good.
Here, we will use this to turn the countdown around:
https://i.gifer.com/fetch/w300-preview/a8/a8a554f007964c46b859579200c51701.gif
The Mega Gong
And now the transformation is complete. Welcome back, SC. :D
ATTT, I was so amped for KKBB. Maybe too much? Val Kilmer and RDJ before he became an utter cock-Womble? Yes please. But I didn't like it. Saw it once, when released, and not since. I remember almost nothing of it other than I didn't like it and was really disappointed and, like Pussy Galore, felt that it was trying soooo damn hard and failing even harder because of it.
The Devil's Backbone I finally saw a couple of years ago, but was underwhelmed by that too. But, by then, I was used to that feeling from Del Toro, who sits very much in the 'everyone loves him but me' column.
honeykid
12-19-21, 11:55 AM
Just as I post the next ones arrive.
Monsters Inc is a wonderful, HK 100 film. Can't praise it much more than that. Funny, smart, touching, great duo and villain/sidekick/henchmen and a wonderful cast of characters for them to play around. Just great and easily the best Pixar film I've seen (and, therefore, the best Pixar film because otherwise I'd have bothered to watch it :D) and, off the top of my head, I'm pretty sure the only animated film to make my 100.
Punch Drunk Love stars Adam Sandler (without Drew Barrymore) and is directed by PTA. What do you think I thought of it?
First of all, I haven't seen Punch-Drunk Love, which made it a bit harder for me to come up with a hint without spoiling things for myself, so there's that. Anyway...
Aaaaand finally... hint!
Open the door (Doors are key to Monsters, Inc. but there's a door on the most known poster of PDL)
What do I see (Very vague, but "see" is the first reference to "looking" with an eye)
There's a couple (again, PDL's poster has a couple in a doorway)
Looking at me (another reference to looking/eye/Mike. Vague, but well)
Open the door (Another door, cause there are many doors in Monsters, Inc.)
Darn, she's a great girl (Sandler wants to be with this great girl)
Do I take the plunge (I understand he has a toilet plunger business?)
Or do I cower and curl? (reference to fear or being scared of what's behind the door)
Open the door (Third door, again, lots of doors)
and go back inside (reference to monsters going back through the door)
Take nothing with you (but they must not take anything with them, or they'll need to be disinfected)
Just enjoy the ride (vague reference to them riding on the doors, like in the Monsters Inc. climax)
There you go. I hope it makes sense.
John Dumbear
12-19-21, 12:04 PM
"Punch Drunk Love" is Sandler' s best film. Kind of like saying that puking is the best thing about a hangover.
"Monsters" was okay enough, never came close to making the list.
Kind of disappointed with some of these picks.
That SC impersonation is coming along splendidly, raul. :D
And now the transformation is complete. Welcome back, SC. :D
Who is SC? :blart:
John W Constantine
12-19-21, 12:05 PM
A case of "Didn't vote for / Don't mind that they're here"
DVF / DMH
Chypmunk
12-19-21, 12:10 PM
Both Monsters Inc. and Punch-Drunk Love are ok watches but neither was ever really under consideration for my own ballot.
Seen: 18/28 (Own: 14/28)
3. Madeo [Mother] (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216496/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#96]
16. The Descent (2005) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#80]
25. The Pool (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0911024/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_6) [1-ptr]
Faildictions (millennial edition v1.0):
72. Snatch (2000)
71. Sideways (2004)
Like I said, I haven't seen Punch-Drunk Love, which is weird, considering how much of a PTA fan I am. I think it's because it came right after Magnolia, which I didn't react well to, and it really didn't get a lot of great reviews back in the day. I will get to it one of these days.
As for Monsters, Inc., for a good while, I would mention it as my favorite Pixar film, and maybe it still is. But even though I saw it a good bunch of times back then, it's been a very long time since I last saw it. That's why I didn't include it.
Seen: 16/28
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Also, Monsters, Inc. is only the second animated film to make it on the list (after Waking Life). How many more will there be? :shifty:
Miss Vicky
12-19-21, 12:13 PM
I watched Punch Drunk Love many years ago and all I remember is that I didn't like it. Considering how much I generally dislike both Adam Sandler and Paul Thomas Anderson, I am certain that a rewatch would not improve anything.
I think Monsters, Inc. is great and it was on my shortlist. It's super imaginative and really funny, but I just couldn't find room on my ballot for it.
Seen: 14/28
My Ballot:
6. Hedwig and the Angry Inch (#91)
25. Surf's Up (One-Pointer)
MovieFan1988
12-19-21, 12:22 PM
Have seen so far: 7 - Monsters Inc was alright, I only seen bits and pieces of Punch Drunk Love
Have not seen so far: 21
Now it’s a party! Punch Drunk Love was my #7. Yes, I’m in the bag for PTA but, also, Punch Drunk Love just rocks. So much nervous energy enhanced by a super cool score. Humor in almost every scene. PSH killing it. A sweet love story at its core. I love it more each time and I just watched it about a month ago. Great film.
I like Monsters Inc quite a bit but, unfortunately, I think my days of gushing over and rewatching animated movies are behind me. Even the ones I like are just kind of there when I put them on now.
SpelingError
12-19-21, 12:24 PM
I've seen and enjoyed both films, but neither made my ballot. Punch-Drunk Love, though pretty good, is one of my least favorite Anderson films and Monsters Inc is a pretty good, albeit middle-of-the-pack Pixar film which was released in the middle of their golden age.
It's worth noting that, up until this point, the distance in points between each entry hasn't been more than 2. We've also had three 2-way ties, three 3-way ties, and one 4-way tie, which should give you all an idea of how close AND spread out the votes were. That will continue for a bit and it won't be until way further along that votes will spread out more.
Iroquois
12-19-21, 12:54 PM
No votes. Monsters Inc. is solid, but it's one of those films that I've practically watched to death on account of younger relatives so I never feel like rewatching it. Punch-Drunk Love is another one I've given at least a couple of chances to win me over (and I was planning on doing so again with a full PTA rewatch in the lead-up to Licorice Pizza) but so far it hasn't clicked. Maybe once I get around to that full rewatch, but we'll have to wait and see.
Haven't seen either of the last two.
Deschain
12-19-21, 01:18 PM
Monsters Inc. is delightful. For all the **** I’ve given the aughts Pixar really was in its prime this decade. Monsters Inc didn’t make my list because I already had three other Pixars on it.
PDL is fine.
Monsters, Inc. is poignant, exciting and funny with great vocal performances by Crystal and Goodman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvsU04Oj188
Punch-Drunk Love resonated with me because the Adam Sandler character reminded me of one of my best friends and his family, so the fact that I could get into the idea of my friend having a positive romantic fantasy was appealing to me. If I didn't have a friend so similar to that character, I'm not sure that I'd buy into the "outrageousness" of the entire story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3P-f-8Lfcs
Neither made my lisr.
Citizen Rules
12-19-21, 01:50 PM
One I've heard of and the other I actually seen, yeah:)
Seen Monsters, Inc...not my favorite Pixar but like most all Pixars well made.
I've heard of and have wanted to watch Punch Drunk Love for the longest time. The reviews are usually real positive for it so I'm guessing it's a good one.
Harry Lime
12-19-21, 02:12 PM
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is decent enough but I'm not a huge fan. No problem wth it being on this list, of course, it has a good following. I haven't seen The Devil's Backbone. I'm just not into horror/thriller types of movies. I do like del Toro, though so I should give it a shot. Every October I'm all "okay gonna watch a bunch of horrors leading up to Halloween" but do I? No. I do want to be cool and get 100% (or high 90%) watched on this list so maybe I'll knock off this and The Decent, get in the holiday spirit.
Monsters, Inc. is upper tier Pixar, not top tier, though, that would be reserved for the one I voted for and a few others. Punch Drunk Love, PTA can do no wrong, right? At least in my book. Maybe Magnolia.
Holden Pike
12-19-21, 02:14 PM
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P.T.A.'s Punch-Drunk Love was #30 on the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium List. PIXAR's Monsters Inc. was #83 on that list as well as #7 on the MoFo Top 100 Animated Films List.
ScarletLion
12-19-21, 02:48 PM
Two good ones, but not close to my list. I do like PDLove but it's a 7/10, just not enough sparkle about it to make my top 25.
mrblond
12-19-21, 03:18 PM
• For a long time, I've not paid attention to Punch-Drunk Love though I've noticed its popularity among the crowd. Finally, I saw it about a year ago mostly because of the name of Paul Thomas Anderson who is one of my loved new generation filmmakers.
Not bad movie, probably my #49 of the 2000's.
• As for the Monsters, Inc., no matter of the strong advertising since its release, I still don't have interest.
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Seen 11/28.
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My list:
#9. Amores perros [#81.]
#14. The Man Who Wasn't There [#84.]
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(seen one pointers 3/38)
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou [#98]
Werckmeister Harmonies [#97]
Pride & Prejudice [#93]
Caché [#85]
American Psycho [#79]
Battle Royale [#77]
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cricket
12-19-21, 04:59 PM
Punch Drunk Love was good but also my least favorite PTA, that is until Inherent Vice came out. I could use another viewing.
Seen Monsters a couple of times and I like it ok.
Critics
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Critics thoughts on our #74, Monsters, Inc...
https://i.imgur.com/KHw5DZb.png
It currently has an 96% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 8.1/10 score on IMDb (with 861,000 votes).
Roger Ebert gave it ★★★ and said:
"Monsters, Inc. is cheerful, high-energy fun, and like the other Pixar movies, has a running supply of gags and references aimed at grownups."
Meanwhile Chuck Rudolph, of Matinee Magazine, said:
"Even with all the good cheer on display, this represents the first instance in which Pixar's ability to produce a thoroughly magical experience hits a brick wall."
As for our MoFo reviewers, MovieMeditation said:
"Here is a movie that seems to monstrously increase in quality with every new viewing. I always liked it, certain aspects I loved, but I do really think this is one of the very best movies from Pixar, which makes it even worse when the general response isn’t quite up there with the likes of Toy Story and such. Because this movie did for monsters in the closet what Toy Story did for toys on the floor and moreover the concept for Monsters, Inc. seem even more ingenious than what came before."
On the other hand, Citizen Rules said:
"I liked Monsters, Inc. I thought it was well done, well animated, with some real talent doing the voices. I was really into the first couple scenes, but then when the film switched to a fight against good and bad and became an action-adventure chase, it lost me. And yet people love chase scenes in all types of movies, but not me. Thus Monsters, Inc. isn't really a film I enjoyed and yet I could see how people could love it."
MovieMeditation
12-19-21, 05:39 PM
Knock, knock. Who’s there? My number #9 and that is the amazing Monsters, Inc.
The first one from my list too. I think it’s one of Pixar’s best. The concept is brilliant and original, the humor is lovely, the pace great and the heart is huge. And that door climax is stunning still to this day. So much fun. My last rewatch was practically so perfect it was almost scary.
One should know I do love me some PTA. He’s my favorite working director, but this one just missed the cut. I love the film though, make no mistake. I’m glad to see it on the list though it’s probably too low.
Pussy Galore
12-19-21, 05:41 PM
I haven't seen Monsters Inc since I was a kid, I'd like to rewatch it, I have good memories of it.
Punch Drunk Love is an interesting movie, I think the themes it tackles are important and the film treats them effectively. However, it's not a very enjoyable movie, I've seen it twice and I never really enjoyed myself. Also, the films looks very good, the cinematographer did well, the way Sandler dresses, the decision of making him work in something that looks like a storage unit makes the film visually memorable which is a good thing (even though not enough to make it a film I really like).
CosmicRunaway
12-19-21, 05:44 PM
I saw Monsters Inc. when it was new, but didn't think much of it. My favourite thing was a toy of the villain my little brother had, that had spider legs that actually moved around. I don't actually remember much about the film other than a whole pile of closet doors though.
I haven't seen Punch-Drunk Love. Despite having watched a number of Adam Sandler films, I really don't like him as an actor, even when he has a more serious role like in Uncut Gems, so I probably won't ever watch it unless I have to for a HoF or something.
Seen: 13/28
My List:
08. Mother (2009) - #96
10. Iron Man (2008) - #83
16. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (2005) - #76
25. Bon Cop, Bad Cop (2006) - 1-pointer
Critics
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Critics thoughts on our #73, Punch-Drunk Love...
https://i.imgur.com/0sVTIqm.png
It currently has an 79% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 7.3/10 score on IMDb (with 157,000 votes).
Roger Ebert gave it ★★★½ and said:
"In voice and mannerisms he is the same childlike, love-starved Adam Sandler we've seen in a series of dim comedies, but this film, by seeing him in a new light, encourages us to look again at those films. Given a director and a screenplay that sees through the Sandler persona, that understands it as the disguise of a suffering outsider, Sandler reveals depths and tones we may have suspected but couldn't bring into focus."
Meanwhile Derek Adams, of Time Out, said:
"The film looks good and has its funny moments, but too often one senses Anderson straining to impress."
As for our MoFo reviewers, Ezikiel said:
"This film is a romance masterpiece, Paul Thomas Anderson has created one of my favorite love story films... His screenwriting is wonderful... This film will always stand out in my mind as, a great romance story, Adam Sandler's best performance, and yet another Paul Thomas Anderson masterpiece. Best film of 2002."
On the other hand, Iroquois said:
"I'm more than ready to write this off as my least favourite PTA film by a considerable margin. Sandler is used to good effect, but it's at the expense of virtually every other actor in this film. Writer-director PTA cares enough to shoot this film with extreme clarity but the writing leaves a lot to be desired and makes the film a chore even when it barely reaches the 90-minute mark. Basically, I can see that there is something of worth about this film but I still struggle to actually like it."
Trailers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGbgaHoapFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGqn5k227HY
Awards
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Now to the awards received by Monsters, Inc...
Academy Award for Best Original Song ("If I Didn't Have You", Randy Newman)
BAFTA Award for Best Children's Film
Grammy Award for Best Song (Newman)
Satellite Award for Best Youth DVD
Among many others.
As for Punch-Drunk Love, it won...
Cannes Film Festival Award for Best Director (Paul Thomas Anderson, tied with Kwon Taek-Im)
Chlotrudis Award for Best Movie, Director (PTA), Actor (Adam Sandler)
Imagen Foundation Awards for Best Supporting Actor (Luis Guzman)
Gijón International Film Festival for Best Actor (Sandler) and Screenplay (PTA)
Some tidbits about one of tomorrow's entries... so far, none of the films have been in more than 9 ballots. Like I said a while ago, that shows how spread out the votes were. #72 is the first film in the countdown that reached double-digits in terms of ballots. Although this will obviously become the norm as we continue the countdown, it will only happen twice in the backend 50 (#72 and #61). Why those two didn't crack the Top 50? Because although they were present in a lot of ballots, most of those people placed it fairly low.
Another interesting tidbit (and sorta hint) for tomorrow's entries is that both films have a word in their title that has (more or less) the same meaning.
Chypmunk
12-19-21, 06:17 PM
Another interesting tidbit (and sorta hint) for tomorrow's entries is that both films have a word in their title that has (more or less) the same meaning.
Hmmmm, sounds like at least one of the Faildictions is safe then :)
Deschain
12-19-21, 07:44 PM
Good job Thief spreading out the facts throughout the day to keep the thread going.
Good job Thief spreading out the facts throughout the day to keep the thread going.
That was my intention when I started, and I think I did it the first 3 or 4 days :laugh: but more often than not, real life kicks in and I'm not always able to sit down for a while to do it.
Citizen Rules
12-19-21, 08:34 PM
I'm definitely liking Theif's plan of action here:yup:
rauldc14
12-19-21, 08:41 PM
Luckily Thief has been a great host because the movies themselves have been a travesty.
Monsters Inc. is pretty solid but there's 4 Pixar better from this decade and we don't need 5% of the countdown to be Pixar.
Punch Drunk Love I haven't seen in a long time and thankfully it wasn't higher. Has no business on any top 100 :)
ueno_station54
12-19-21, 08:42 PM
Never saw Punch Drunk Love and I always felt Monsters Inc. was a waste of a good concept.
On another note, I watched The Death of Mr. Lazarescu today and it was quite good but wouldn't have cracked my ballot. Hyperrealist-type films like this rarely score higher than like a 7/10 with me, just not really my style.
Luckily Thief has been a great host because the movies themselves have been a travesty.
Renaming the countdown movies Raul has never seen.
This just doesn't feel like the 2000s best to me. Of course when you haven't seen most of the films that would be the reason.
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/08/05/11/swan.jpg
:D
Trivia
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Monsters, Inc.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OGZT7hgcDC4/maxresdefault.jpg
Did you know that...
the idea of a film about monsters came to Pete Docter after people complimented him and others at Disney for "bringing toys to life"? Docter has said he wanted to tap into a similar childlike notion, so he chose "monsters in the closet".
the title of the film was suggested by longtime Disney animator, Joe Grant, and is inspired on a gangster film called Murder, Inc.?
Billy Crystal was offered the role of Mike after he regretted declining the role of Buzz Lightyear earlier?
most of Boo's lines were recorded as the crew followed her around with a microphone? This was because Mary Gibbs was so young that they couldn't get her to stand in the recording studio to act her lines.
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/O2Ebhjt3yT1wccN44FXRCQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTkwOQ--/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/5uLDH5YmCPQ3XXDAENHyiQ--~B/aD0xMDI0O3c9NzIxO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/hello_giggles_454/1adc4d4b9fcb8b3ce21f506738de9ce7
Trivia
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Punch-Drunk Love
https://i.imgur.com/pcK9PCp.jpg
Did you know that...
when Paul Thomas Anderson announced in Cannes that his next project would be an Adam Sandler romcom, the press laughed cause they thought it was a joke?
composer Jon Brion worked on the music while filming was taking place, allowing him to experiment with tones and sounds that Anderson was responding more favorably to?
this is Anderson's shortest film at 95 minutes?
there is an Internet theory that sustains the film is a "Superman" story? (read here (https://comicbook.com/dc/news/punch-drunk-love-superman-origin-story-netflix-theory/))
https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/2021/03/17/98d4e201-ad73-4c54-892a-14f800c6d98e/punch-drunk-love-superman-1159056.jpg
PHOENIX74
12-19-21, 10:28 PM
74. Monsters, Inc. - This is one Pixar film I didn't get around to watching while preparing for this countdown. I saw Finding Nemo, Up and WALL·E - plus perhaps one more that escapes me - but not that one.
73. Punch-Drunk Love - I remembered Punch-Drunk Love pretty late in the game, and of course it came in for serious consideration for addition to my list. It really is a great film, and I love it. It came so close to finding a spot. But it's paled ever so slightly over the years for me so I wasn't comfortable booting any of my established 25 to make room for it. Out of all the crap Adam Sandler has done, and I mean crap, he makes up for it a little with his role in this. Sorry Adam Sandler fans. Paul Thomas Anderson only directed one other feature film in this decade, but it's going to feature somewhere in the top 10 of this list and I'm imagining that it's on a lot of people's lists. This quirky love story is a lot of fun, and I think Sandler's character was based on someone real (prone to completely random fits of violent destruction) who actually attempted the pudding coupon thing he does in this film. I love Emily Watson and really need to watch this again, as I'm sure it's been at least a decade since I last saw it.
Seen 18/28
rauldc14
12-19-21, 11:05 PM
I'm trying to decipher the "clue". I haven't come up with anything. Of course I'm looking at well known movie titles and not obscure films or average films that make me think people like Harry Lime, Ueno and Mr. minio have hacked an account or twelve.
rauldc14
12-19-21, 11:08 PM
74. Monsters, Inc. - This is one Pixar film I didn't get around to watching while preparing for this countdown. I saw Finding Nemo, Up and WALL·E - plus perhaps one more that escapes me - but not that one.
73. Punch-Drunk Love - I remembered Punch-Drunk Love pretty late in the game, and of course it came in for serious consideration for addition to my list. It really is a great film, and I love it. It came so close to finding a spot. But it's paled ever so slightly over the years for me so I wasn't comfortable booting any of my established 25 to make room for it. Out of all the crap Adam Sandler has done, and I mean crap, he makes up for it a little with his role in this. Sorry Adam Sandler fans. Paul Thomas Anderson only directed one other feature film in this decade, but it's going to feature somewhere in the top 10 of this list and I'm imagining that it's on a lot of people's lists. This quirky love story is a lot of fun, and I think Sandler's character was based on someone real (prone to completely random fits of violent destruction) who actually attempted the pudding coupon thing he does in this film. I love Emily Watson and really need to watch this again, as I'm sure it's been at least a decade since I last saw it.
Seen 18/28
Oh thank God PTA only has one more from this decade. Hopefully Wes doesn't have much more either. I don't want seanc jumping for glee.
Miss Vicky
12-19-21, 11:13 PM
Luckily Thief has been a great host because the movies themselves have been a travesty.
How many have you even seen?
PHOENIX74
12-19-21, 11:15 PM
Oh thank God PTA only has one more from this decade. Hopefully Wes doesn't have much more either. I don't want seanc jumping for glee.
The Royal Tenenbaums still has a shot of making the countdown - but it'd have to show up within the next 20 or so slots I reckon.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3b/The_Tenenbaums.jpg
I quite like Wes Anderson...but none of his 2000s films made it onto my list.
ueno_station54
12-19-21, 11:25 PM
I'm trying to decipher the "clue". I haven't come up with anything. Of course I'm looking at well known movie titles and not obscure films or average films that make me think people like Harry Lime, Ueno and Mr. minio have hacked an account or twelve.
Don't blame me until a GTA machinima shows up.
rauldc14
12-19-21, 11:31 PM
How many have you even seen?
Not as many as most others.
rauldc14
12-19-21, 11:34 PM
The Royal Tenenbaums still has a shot of making the countdown - but it'd have to show up within the next 20 or so slots I reckon.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3b/The_Tenenbaums.jpg
I quite like Wes Anderson...but none of his 2000s films made it onto my list.
Oh no not that. Please not that!
Holden Pike
12-19-21, 11:35 PM
I still contend Punch-Drunk Love is the height of P.T. Anderson's Robert Altman obsession. Magnolia is clearly the closest in form and style to the point where much of it comes off as homage, but centering the entire narrative of P-DL around that Shelley Duvall song...that's some crazy shee-it. At least Magnolia was aping Altman's masterpieces.
https://youtu.be/qAFgj8mqPk0
Punch-Drunk Love was definitely not on my ballot, but I must admit its artifice and insanity has grown on me over the years.
Harry Lime
12-19-21, 11:41 PM
On another note, I watched The Death of Mr. Lazarescu today and it was quite good but wouldn't have cracked my ballot. Hyperrealist-type films like this rarely score higher than like a 7/10 with me, just not really my style.
That's awesome. Glad to see you gave it a shot even if not your style.
Harry Lime
12-19-21, 11:44 PM
I'm trying to decipher the "clue". I haven't come up with anything. Of course I'm looking at well known movie titles and not obscure films or average films that make me think people like Harry Lime, Ueno and Mr. minio have hacked an account or twelve.
Hey I've got some mainstream films on my list too. I like a good mix. I made sure to put the mainstream movies on my alt account lists too so don't worry.
Hint, hint...
Knock, knock...
Who's there?
Fed
Fed who?
Fed with this goofy films
Someone said
"You shall not pass!"
But I worked hard
And I did pass
I fought, I cried
I flew, I stole, I ran
Money, diamonds
Cash right from the pan
Afraid of the gangster
Afraid of the suit
Afraid of the countdown
They're forcing me to
Ain't putting nothing
Back on that shelf
And if you knock
You can go f*ck yourself
Miss Vicky
12-19-21, 11:53 PM
I'm guessing one of 'em is Catch Me If You Can
ueno_station54
12-19-21, 11:56 PM
Ain't putting nothing
Back on that shelf
Elf lfg!!!
Remember, don't take everything on the hint at face value :shifty: :laugh:
Wyldesyde19
12-20-21, 12:33 AM
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship
And possibly Blood Diamonds?
gbgoodies
12-20-21, 02:32 AM
Monsters, Inc. is the first movie from my list to make the countdown. I first saw it when it was in the theaters, and it quickly became one of my favorite movies. I've seen it many more times since then, and I love it more every time. It was #2 on my list.
I've never been a fan of Adam Sandler, but I watched several of his movies for this countdown, including Punch-Drunk Love. A couple of his movies were good enough that I considered them for my list, but this was not one of them. I liked it, but not enough for it to make my list. However it was nice to see him in some movies that were not just stupid mindless comedies.
rauldc14
12-20-21, 08:23 AM
That clue has brought me to absolutely no conclusions. I like it!
John-Connor
12-20-21, 08:37 AM
Hint, hint...
Knock, knock...
Who's there?
Fed
Fed who?
Fed with this goofy films
Someone said
"You shall not pass!"
But I worked hard
And I did pass
I fought, I cried
I flew, I stole, I ran
Money, diamonds
Cash right from the pan
Afraid of the gangster
Afraid of the suit
Afraid of the countdown
They're forcing me to
Ain't putting nothing
Back on that shelf
And if you knock
You can go f*ck yourself
The Two Towers
Snatch
I don't know what the next films are going to be, but I have enough faith in Thief to be quite certain that neither one is going to be The Lord of the Rings movie.
rauldc14
12-20-21, 10:22 AM
Well I mean it could be Two Towers. No chance it's the other two. I'm getting a Signs vibe for some reason
https://c.tenor.com/KmHSemxwcn8AAAAC/excellent-happy.gif
Catch Me if You Can makes sense...
Not sure of the other one...
Gonna get a coffee and then post the reveals...
SpelingError
12-20-21, 11:14 AM
Gonna get a coffee and then post the reveals...
You think coffee is more important than movies? I can't believe you, man :(
You think coffee is more important than movies? I can't believe you, man :(
I'm at the point in my life where coffee might be more important than my wife and kids.
87 points, 10 listsCatch Me If You Can (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/640-catch-me-if-you-can.html)Director
Steven Spielberg, 2002
Starring
Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Hanks, Christopher Walken, Martin Sheen
88 points, 9 listsSnatch (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/107-snatch.html)Director
Guy Ritchie, 2000
Starring
Benicio del Toro, Dennis Farina, Vinnie Jones, Brad Pitt
Miss Vicky
12-20-21, 11:28 AM
I've loved Catch Me If You Can since I saw it in the theater. It's a really fun movie and was a strong contender for my ballot, but ultimately there were at least 25 other 2000s movies that I love more.
I know I've seen Snatch, but it was a very long time ago and I don't really remember anything about it.
rauldc14
12-20-21, 11:30 AM
I would be surprised if I don't care for Catch Me If You Can. I do look forward to that one.
Snatch doesn't belong on this list.
Rockatansky
12-20-21, 11:30 AM
Didn't vote for Snatch, but I do remember enjoying it quite a bit.
I know Ritchie has lost his cachet over the years, but I really enjoyed Wrath of Man from this year. Gets closer to the meanness of the original Get Carter than I expected. First good use of Scott Eastwood that I've seen as well.
Hmmmm, sounds like at least one of the Faildictions is safe then :)
I'm guessing one of 'em is Catch Me If You Can
The Two Towers
Snatch
Catch Me if You Can makes sense...
Not sure of the other one...
You can divide the winnings...
I don't know what the next films are going to be, but I have enough faith in Thief to be quite certain that neither one is going to be The Lord of the Rings movie.
You got the assignment ;)
Catch Me If You Can is a ton of fun with two of my favorite actors doing their thing. My #22. I like it more each time I see it.
Haven’t seen Snatch since it was released. I enjoyed it well enough but it definitely needs another look eventually.
Watched Kiss Kiss Bang Bang last night. It’s pretty well what I expected. Good bit of fun that over stays its welcome. Wouldn’t have been close to making my list.
Ok, hint breakdown...
Another interesting tidbit (and sorta hint) for tomorrow's entries is that both films have a word in their title that has (more or less) the same meaning.
Obvious... catch, snatch...
I haven't seen Snatch since it came out, which made it harder for me to come up with a hint, but anyway...
Hint, hint...
Knock, knock...
Who's there?
Fed
Fed who?
Fed with this goofy films
(reference to Carl Hanratty's attempt at a joke in CMIYC, and obviously the fact that they are feds. Finally a friendly jab at our friend Raul)
Someone said
"You shall not pass!"
But I worked hard
And I did pass
(a bit of misdirection, but nothing to do with LOTR, but rather to DiCaprio's character passing the bar exam)
I fought, I cried (a bit of a reference to Pitt's boxer in Snatch, and Leo crying in CMIYC)
I flew, I stole, I ran (Leo flies and runs, he and the Snatch characters steal)
Money, diamonds (there's a diamond theft in Snatch)
Cash right from the pan (reference to money laundering)
Afraid of the gangster (reference to the bad gangsters in Snatch)
Afraid of the suit (reference to the feds again)
Afraid of the countdown (reference to the boxing match...)
They're forcing me to (...they're asking Pitt's boxer to throw)
Ain't putting nothing
Back on that shelf (reference to Leo refusing to surrender)
And if you knock
You can go f*ck yourself (bookend reference to Hanratty's joke attempt)
There you go. If you didn't like the hint, you can go f*ck yourself.
rauldc14
12-20-21, 11:39 AM
That was super clever. I hope I'm in another hint!
Anyway, like I said above, I haven't seen Snatch in a very, very long time, and although I remember enjoying it, I barely remember anything about it, so I never considered it.
As for Catch Me If You Can, it is a very well made film and a lot of fun. I had it on my shortlist, but it didn't make it on my list.
So, this is where I'm at...
Seen: 18/30
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KeyserCorleone
12-20-21, 11:40 AM
I first saw Catch Me If You Can when I was 15. I was always intrigued by how it was a true story, and the way it was written and directed influenced my story written just when I was getting serious about writing.
93.
Catch Me if You Can was one of the films I watched again leading up to the countdown, but it didn't end up making my list. That said, it holds up well and is a fine film, deserving of its place on the list.
mattiasflgrtll6
12-20-21, 11:46 AM
Snatch is the second movie from my list. I've been a fan of Guy Ritchie since Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels, and Snatch is another excellent film from him. The trademark witty dark humor, snappy editing and cast of characters are better than ever. Besides Brad Pitt in one of his strangest and funniest roles, it also features the delightful Alan Ford. He has so much fun playing an absolute maniac of a villain that you can practically feel him salivating at the mouth. I really wish he'd get big roles like this more often.
Commenting on Punch-Drunk-Love now since I forgot to before. I'm surprised this movie isn't getting that much love in this thread. It's the first one from Paul Thomas Anderson I saw, and features some of Adam Sandler's best acting. He still gets to be funny, but brings a kind of sincerity as well that makes him really likable. You feel genuinely bad for the rough hand Barry is dealt in life, and his relationship with Lena is one of the sweetest I've ever seen. How about that, a romantic comedy that doesn't contain a sudden mid-act conflict? Instead it becomes a consistent shining beam in his life that he can look forward to whenever things seem to be at their bleakest.
Philip Seymour Hoffman and Luis Guzmán are also terrific as always.
John Dumbear
12-20-21, 11:48 AM
Well, nailed my #24 & #25, so gives the list a sturdy base for all those films that will show up further up the list. The last batch of ten films have been the weakest so far IMHO.
Yet, enjoying the countdown immensely.
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24. American Psycho
25. The OH in Ohio 1-ptr
Have seen so far: 14
Put on list for future viewing: 6
My list that ended up on the cutting room floor (dammit!): 2
Put on "meh" list : 7
1 Ptrs: seen 8
Chypmunk
12-20-21, 11:54 AM
Jaysus, the Faildictions certainly dodged a bullet with this set 😅
I've very likely seen Catch Me If You Can but aside from the basic premise I remember sweet Frances Adams about it so it'll count as if I haven't. Snatch is a fun enough offering with a memorable turn from Brad Pitt but again it's been years since and it was never in with a shot at placing on my ballot.
Seen: 19/30 (Own: 14/30)
3. Madeo [Mother] (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216496/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#96]
16. The Descent (2005) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#80]
25. The Pool (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0911024/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_6) [1-ptr]
Faildictions (millennial edition v1.01):
70. Training Day (2001)
69. Donnie Darko (2001)
Deschain
12-20-21, 12:07 PM
Catch Me if You Can is fun. I always forget that Spielberg directed it or that it even exists sometimes.
I’ve only seen Snatch once and all I remember from it was Brad Pitt’s performance.
cricket
12-20-21, 12:30 PM
I've loved Snatch since the first time I saw it.
I've not seen Catch Me if You Can.
Cathcing up from the weekend:
I haven't seen Kiss Kiss Bang Bang! I thought I had, but nope. So I'll probably give a shot at some point, though I'm not sure it'll be my thing. I like The Devil's Backbone, but not as much as I thought I might. Monsters Inc. was the closest of these to making my list, but I ended up keeping only one Pixar. PT Anderson can be very up and down for me, and Punch-Drunk Love was a down for me. Not terrible, just ... eh. Same for Catch Me If You Can, to be honest. Spielberg is always a great technical director, but I'm just not interested in this story (it's just too ridiculous on every level for me). I did like Snatch pretty well, but it was not a contender for my ballot.
ueno_station54
12-20-21, 12:31 PM
Catch Me If You Can is a movie I can't see myself ever watching. Snatch is a movie I can't see myself ever watching again.
Meanwhile, someday I will watch Punch Drunk Love... PTA tends to rub me the wrong way, with only one or two films I like out of the ones that I have seen to date.
SpelingError
12-20-21, 12:43 PM
Haven't seen either film. I've heard of both of them, but I haven't felt much of an interest in watching them anytime soon.
Citizen Rules
12-20-21, 12:54 PM
Yahoo! Finally another film from my list makes the countdown:)...
Catch Me If You Can was my number 7. Such an amazing true story and for once Spielberg doesn't muck it up with over sentimentality and no cute talking fuzzy bears. Yes, Spielberg does know how to make a great movie!
Catch Me If You Can just missed my list, but I'm still glad it got in. I think A.I. may be his best work of that decade, but Catch is his most fun one.
I'd encourage anyone who liked it to seek out Chameleon Street, which is from '89 and is also about a real-life identity-altering con man, William Douglas Street, Jr.
John-Connor
12-20-21, 01:22 PM
Seen: 18/30
Watch-list:
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Catch Me If You Can, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, American Psycho and Watchmen are all somewhere on my 00's top 100 but didn’t make my ballot this time, Snatch is my #24.
Ballot: 2/25
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Stats: Pit Stop #3
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Yayy!! we're on the third pit stop (70), so here are our stats so far:
Decade Breakdown
2000 = 6
2001 = 6
2002 = 2
2003 = 1
2004 = 1
2005 = 8
2006 = 0
2007 = 3
2008 = 1
2009 = 2
What happened with 2006??? :confused:
Anyway, we still have no repeating directors, so no breakdown. But again, let's see if we can continue the genre breakdown:
Musical = 1
Biopic drama = 2
Romantic drama = 3
Horror = 3
Coming of age = 2
Thriller = 4
Drama/mystery = 1
Comedy drama = 3
Action comedy = 1
Epic, war drama = 1
Psychological drama = 1
Animated drama = 1
Animated comedy = 1
Superhero action = 2
Crime = 2
Western/Neo-western = 1
Science fiction = 1
Also, 11 of the 30 films are foreign, and we got our second animated film of the countdown.
Believe it or not but my fave part of Catch Me If You Can is the awesome opening credits. I really like the whole cat-and-mouse movie although it was hard to believe what I was watching could be real even if if was!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nv2S_S9MlU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-QSz4R7mR0
The main thing I remember about Snatch is how crazy Brad Pitt is and how it gave me flashbacks to Fight Club. I think Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels is a tad better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7QBS0O7gT0
No votes.
Critics
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Critics thoughts on our #72, Catch Me If You Can...
https://i.imgur.com/ijuv4eP.png
It currently has a 96% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 8.1/10 score on IMDb (with 904,000 votes).
Roger Ebert gave it ★★★ and said:
"This is not a major Spielberg film, although it is an effortlessly watchable one. Spielberg and his writer, Jeff Nathanson, working from the memoir by the real Frank Abagnale Jr. and Stan Redding, don't force matters or plumb for deep significance. The story is a good story, directly told, and such meaning as it has comes from the irony that the only person who completely appreciates Abagnale's accomplishments is the man trying to arrest him. "
Meanwhile Charles Taylor, of Salon.com, said:
"Though Catch Me If You Can isn't badly made, the fun slowly leaks out of the movie ... [It] is well-enough made and highly watchable, but it lacks the one thing that would put some swing in its step and some swagger in its attitude: a sense of jazz."
As for our MoFo reviewers, Gideon58 said:
"The story doesn't really surprise as it begins with the ending and flashes back but what it does do more than anything else is entertain, from opening to closing credits. Bouquets to Spielberg, DiCaprio, and everyone else involved in bringing this richly entertaining story to the silver screen."
And Iroquois said:
"Catch Me If You Can is a very middle-of-the-road film that has some okay performances and the odd clever moment but is generally stretched a bit too thin and doesn't bring all that much to the table."
Critics
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Critics thoughts on our #71, Snatch...
https://i.imgur.com/3gmFwCZ.png
It currently has a 74% Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 8.2/10 score on IMDb (with 820,000 votes).
Roger Ebert gave it ★★ and said:
"I don't want Ritchie to 'grow'. I don't care if he returns to the kind of material that worked for him the first time around. I just want him to get organized, to find the through line, to figure out why we would want to see the movie for more than its technique."
Meanwhile Wally Hammond, of Time Out, said:
"Ritchie's follow-up to Lock, Stock is an even more craftily concocted underworld entertainment, helped no end by the casting of Pitt."
As for our MoFo reviewers, Daniel M said:
"Snatch is a highly enjoyable and fun film, filled with an excellent cast and bizarre plot with many twists and turns. If you haven't seen Lock, Stock... then I think you'll enjoy it more as the plot twists and humour will seem more fresh. Snatch is an upgrade on Lock, Stock... where Ritchie gets to have fun upgrading each aspect of his films to get the most out of his extremely fun and extremely funny style. When you sit back, relax and watch this film then you don’t get much better for entertainment value."
Trailers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71rDQ7z4eFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8jbt0wBkMI
mrblond
12-20-21, 03:12 PM
Stats: Pit Stop #3
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If you don't mind, I'd like to add something about actors.
Still no repeat in the leads but there are some other noticeable and important reiterations:
Christian Bale (#79*, #99)
Philip Seymour Hoffman (#73, #90)
Frances McDormand (#84, #90)
Willem Dafoe (#79, #98)
*(bold means leading part)
Quite possible someone is missed.
If you don't mind, I'd like to add something about actors.
Still no repeat in the leads but there are some other noticeable and important reiterations:
Christian Bale (#79*, #99)
Philip Seymour Hoffman (#73, #90)
Frances McDormand (#84, #90)
Willem Dafoe (#79, #98)
*(bold means leading part)
Quite possible someone is missed.
Not at all, man. Party is for all! Thanks
EDIT: Robert Downey Jr. was in #83 and #76, as a lead in both.
Chypmunk
12-20-21, 03:28 PM
My invaluable rubbish stats contribution...
Thus far of the 30 fillums revealed:
25 contain at least one 'e' in the title.
2 of those actually only have an 'é'
5 have no type of 'e' at all
25 + 2 + 5 = 32
Sorry but I was brought up to never attend a party empty-handed.
Steve Freeling
12-20-21, 04:10 PM
Catch Me If You Can is really good. Would have voted for it if it hadn't slipped my mind. Oh, well.
I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, buuuut most of Catch Me If You Can is completely fictional. Ironically, Frank Abagnale's biggest con appears to be convincing people that he was a successful con artist, when really he's just a fabulist. Anyway, that was probably the reason I had such a hard time getting into the movie--I just never bought what it was selling.
At the same time, I don't think the story being "really true" or not necessarily matters. If you think the ride was fun, it was fun! I just prefer something like Baron Munchausen, where the tales are over-the-top outlandish, as opposed to plausibly outlandish. But that's me.
mrblond
12-20-21, 04:21 PM
• #71. Snatch - This was my first Guy Ritchie movie. What a cult!
I saw it during the Kinomania Film Festival, Sofia in the autumn of 2000 and a month later again, when the film was released in the theaters. Since then, it is among the most re-watched movies for me - I see it every two or three years.
Yes, it is #4 on my ballot.
Also, Snatch is #11 in MoFo 2000 Film Chart (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=64356).
83572
R.I.P. Dennis Farina
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• #72. Catch Me If You Can - pleasant, entertaining movie. I saw it back then in the theater and couple more times through the years. It is often on the TV channels around here. It would probably be my #52 of the 2000's.
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stats
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Seen 13/30.
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My list:
#4. Snatch [#71.]
#9. Amores perros [#81.]
#14. The Man Who Wasn't There [#84.]
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(seen one pointers 3/38)
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou [#98]
Werckmeister Harmonies [#97]
Pride & Prejudice [#93]
Caché [#85]
American Psycho [#79]
Battle Royale [#77]
Catch Me If You Can [#72]
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I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, buuuut most of Catch Me If You Can is completely fictional. Ironically, Frank Abagnale's biggest con appears to be convincing people that he was a successful con artist, when really he's just a fabulist. Anyway, that was probably the reason I had such a hard time getting into the movie--I just never bought what it was selling.
For what it's worth, Abagnale himself has said that he wasn't "a consultant on the film. I've never met nor spoken to Steven Spielberg and I have not read the script. I prefer not to." But yeah, there seems to be a lot of recent articles and books questioning the overall accuracy of Abagnale's claims, even the fact that he worked for the FBI.
SpelingError
12-20-21, 04:34 PM
My invaluable rubbish stats contribution...
Thus far of the 30 fillums revealed:
25 contain at least one 'e' in the title.
2 of those actually only have an 'é'
5 have no type of 'e' at all
25 + 2 + 5 = 32
Sorry but I was brought up to never attend a party empty-handed.
But what about titles with more than one 'e'?
Chypmunk
12-20-21, 04:44 PM
But what about titles with more than one 'e'?
Hey, I had to leave room for others to bring something to the party :shrug:
ApexPredator
12-20-21, 06:30 PM
I haven't seen Punch Drunk Love. I liked Monsters Inc, but I think it lacks that something that the best Pixar movies have.
ApexPredator
12-20-21, 06:44 PM
I liked both Catch Me if You Can and Snatch. Not enough for either one to make my list.
ScarletLion
12-20-21, 06:59 PM
Snatch and Catch me if you can are fun but nowhere near my top 25.
ScarletLion
12-20-21, 07:02 PM
Believe it or not but my fave part of Catch Me If You Can is the awesome opening credits. I really like the whole cat-and-mouse movie although it was hard to believe what I was watching could be real even if if was!
[CENTER]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nv2S_S9MlU
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Yeah that's totally a Saul Bass vibe.
donniedarko
12-20-21, 07:32 PM
Two from my list have showed up since I last checked in, suprisingly few that I've seen though. I have only seen 7
My List
11. Caché (2005)
21. Battle Royale (2000)
25. Bellamy (2009. (1 pointer)
donniedarko
12-20-21, 07:33 PM
Snatch is a very fun movie
GulfportDoc
12-20-21, 08:20 PM
I really enjoyed Catch Me If You Can. The true story on which the film was based was appealing enough, so the movie treatment hardly had to exaggerate. Dicaprio did seem a tad young for a couple of the masquerades, but he did a nice job of acting. Hanks was believable in his role.
I thought Snatch was a riot, especially Brad Pitt's part as "One Punch" Mickey O'Neil. The picture was full of interesting characters, most of them laugh-out-loud funny. Alan Ford managed to be intimidating and humorous at the same time.
One could argue that its predecessor, Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels was the superior film, but here the off beat situation and gags continued. Jason Stratham was the perfect middleman. His interplay with sidekick Stephen Graham always seemed fresh.
rauldc14
12-20-21, 08:33 PM
Time for a head scratching clue!
Since some of you brought up the opening credits of Catch Me If You Can, here are a couple of articles about it...
The story behind "Catch Me"'s retro opening credits (https://ew.com/article/2003/01/24/story-behind-catch-mes-retro-opening-credits/)
Art of the Title: Catch Me If You Can (https://www.artofthetitle.com/title/catch-me-if-you-can/)
It's a really memorable sequence.
Awards
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Now to the awards received by Catch Me If You Can...
BAFTA Award for Best Supporting Actor (Christopher Walken)
SAG Award for Best Supporting Actor (Walken)
British Animation Award for Best Film/TV Graphics (main title)
Golden Schmoes Awards for Best Line of the Year ("Knock, knock. Who's there? Go f*ck yourself.")
Grammy Award for Best Score Soundtrack (John Williams)
Among many others.
As for Snatch, it won...
Empire Award for Best British Director (Guy Ritchie)
Empire Award for Best British Actor (Vinnie Jones)
Golden Reel Award for Best Sound Editing, Foreign Feature
National Board of Review Special Recognition for excellence in filmmaking
Time for a head scratching clue!
It's early, man. I just sat here :cool:
John W Constantine
12-20-21, 09:03 PM
Not at all, man. Party is for all! Thanks
There are already 18 new additions that didn't make the millennium list (which I'm kind of basing this list as a reboot).
There are already 18 new additions that didn't make the millennium list (which I'm kind of basing this list as a reboot).
Nice! It'd be neat to mix that with the data that Holden Pike has posted about how films performed then vs. now.
Wyldesyde19
12-20-21, 09:24 PM
Snatch was my #20. It deserves to be here. It is t particularly deep, nor innovative, but it doesn’t have to be. It’s a fun ride with creative casting.
Come at me…..
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