The MoFo Top 100 of the 2000s Countdown

[Thief]

344 points, 24 listsWALL·E (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/10681-wall·e.html)Director
Andrew Stanton, 2008

Starring
Ben Burtt, Elissa Knight, Jeff Garlin, Fred Willard

[Thief]

Hint breakdown...

Hint, hint...

(I used this same opening for two previous entries and someone mistook it for Kill Bill, so I decided to play on that)


Blood, blood everywhere (obviously KB is full of blood...)
Guns, stabs, bites (from guns, swords, knifes, etc.)
Blood on the screen (blood again...)
Messing my nice whites (reference to O-Ren Ishii's final fight, but also to the predominant white in the last act of WALL-E)

Outside is cold (reference to space, but also to the snow in O-Ren Ishii's final fight)
Below is dirty (Earth is dirty, full of trash)
Will we get there?
Maybe in thirty (jab at how much we have left before the Earth becomes the WALL-E Earth)

Find all of them (all of the ones from The Bride's list)
Follow her through (follow EVE)
Whether for payback (payback like The Bride)
or for love too (or love like WALL-E/EVE)

[rauldc14]

Wall E was my 18. It's a great film.

Kill Bill is ok but shouldn't be this high. Unfortunately everyone's obsessed with Tarantino movies.

[John Dumbear]

Hopefully, that is the end of the cartoons...

Hated kill bill, so much so, never bothered with the other one.

harumpth

[Thief]

Seen both, voted for ONE...

Kill Bill Vol. 1 was my #9. Even though I like to think of it as one big film, I tend to lean more towards the first one as my favorite. It has what I think are my favorite sequences, which is pretty much everything with O-Ren Ishii (the anime sequence, her introduction, the final fight). I love the way the film sets up everything, but all the fights are impressive. It's one of my favorite films to revisit.

I saw WALL-E a while ago and although I appreciate it and respect it, it didn't resonate with me that much.


How many is that?...

Seen: 71/88


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7. Synecdoche, New York (#46)
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9. Kill Bill Vol. 1 (#14)
10.
11. Requiem for a Dream (#26)
12.
13. The Prestige (#38)
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15.
16.
17. Once (#103)
18.
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21. Before Sunset (#42)
22.
23. Mother (#96)
24.
25.

[KeyserCorleone]

I liked Kill Bill. 1, but it was a bit drawn out. I liked 2 more because it was more story based.


I found Wall-E to be cute and charming, but predictable. Though the last time I saw it was in junior high...

[KeyserCorleone]

Hopefully, that is the end of the cartoons...


Spirited Away?

[Miss Vicky]

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When I first saw the marketing for WALL·E, I was a little hesitant to see it. I initially didn't like the design of WALL·E the character (he looks a bit too much like Johnny 5 from Short Circuit), but I decided to see it anyway because I trusted Pixar to make a quality movie. And they certainly didn't betray that trust. The movie is an absolute treat with breathtaking animation, a fantastic romance, and adorable characters. It became an instant favorite and placed at number 12 on my ballot.

I hated Kill Bill.

Seen: 54/88

My Ballot:
1. Quills (#67)
2. Gladiator (#40)
3. Up (#33)
5. Ratatouille (#23)
6. Hedwig and the Angry Inch (#91)
12. WALL·E (#13)
14. The Departed (#19)
21. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (#63)
24. Inglourious Basterds (#18)
25. Surf's Up (One-Pointer)

[Chypmunk]

As mentioned before I quite like both parts of KB but having not watched them for ages neither Kill Bill Vol. 1 nor the second part made my ballot. WALL·E on the other hand was one I did watch in prep for this countdown and I love it just as much now as I did when I first saw it and it was always gonna be highly ranked by me.

Seen: 60/88 (Own: 41/88)

1. WALL·E (2008) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0910970/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#13]
3. Madeo [Mother] (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216496/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#96]
5. Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain [Amélie] (2001) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0211915/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#16]
6. Moon (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182345/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#48]
8. Der Untergang [Downfall] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#28]
11. Oldeuboi [Oldboy] (2003) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364569/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3) [#22]
12. The Departed (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407887/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#19]
15. Låt den rätte komma in [Let The Right One In] (2008) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1139797/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#29]
16. The Descent (2005) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#80]
25. The Pool (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0911024/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_6) [1-ptr]



Faildictions (millennial edition v1.01):
26. Superbad (2007)
25. Memento (2000)
24. Road To Perdition (2002)
23. The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers (2002) [15]
22. Shrek (2001)
21. Requiem For A Dream (2000) [26]
20. Oldboy (2003) [22]
19. Inglourious Basterds (2009) [18]
18. Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind (2004)
17. City Of God (2002) [25]
16. In The Mood For Love (2000)
15. O Brother Where Art Thou? (2000) [21]
14. Children Of Men (2006) [17]
13. Amélie (2001) [16]
12. Zodiac (2007)
11. WALL·E (2008) [13]
10. The Departed (2006) [19]
9. The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring (2001)
8. Shaun Of The Dead (2004) [20]
7. Mulholland Drive (2001)
6. Pan's Labyrinth (2006)
5. There Will Be Blood (2007)
4. The Dark Knight (2008)
3. Spirited Away (2001)
2. The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King (2003)
1. No Country For Old Men (2007)

Seventeen down, nine to go...

[CosmicRunaway]

I don't have anything new to say about Kill Bill vol 1 that I didn't already mention when vol 2 appeared on the Countdown earlier. Probably don't need to say it wasn't on my list haha.


WALL·E is another film that has an absolutely fantastic start, but unfortunately goes in a direction that doesn't interest me as much after. I've seen it twice: once in theatres, and again for the Animation HoF. While I initially hated everything that took place on the spaceship, I found it a little more compelling the second time through. I neglected to consider it for my list though.

Seen: 55/88

My List:
02. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) - #15
05. The Lives of Others (2006) - #41
06. Millennium Actress (2001) - DNP
08. Mother (2009) - #96
09. Shaun of the Dead (2004) - #20
10. Iron Man (2008) - #83
11. Paprika (2006) - #64
12. Memories of Murder (2003) - #27
16. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (2005) - #76
17. Hot Fuzz (2007) - #30
20. Moon (2009) - #48
25. Bon Cop, Bad Cop (2006) - 1-pointer

[seanc]

Love Kill Bill, but I wasn’t going to vote for both. Thought one would be higher but this is quite a jump and that surprises me.

Wall-E is another really good Pixar that I saw once, liked, but didn’t vote for.

[mrblond]

Hopefully, that is the end of the cartoons...


Mary and Max?

[mark f]

Kill Bill: Vol. 1 is a solid set-up for the epic saga. Is everyone aware that Tarantino stole part of The Candy Snatchers (1973) as inspiration?

I'm pretty sure that most people realize that WALL·E , my #15, takes place in the year 2815 and begins on Earth where the only things which seem to be "alive" are a small robot who tries to clean up the trash and an especially-resilient cockroach-type creature. All the humans left the planet 700 years earlier on a huge spaceship which was designed by the mega corporation/world government called Buy and Large, with the intention of only being away for about five years. There were apparently millions of WALL·Es left behind, but now there seems to be one, and shortly after the film begins, he finds green plant life growing in the soil.

Soon a spaceship appears and leaves a probe behind to search for signs of life. This probe is called EVE, and it is like nothing WALL·E has ever seen before. In fact, although WALL·E (ostensibly playing a male) is frightened by EVE's seemingly violent nature and firepower, he finds himself attracted to her as a companion along the lines of the ones he sees in the film version of Hello, Dolly! which he watches repeatedly. Eventually, both machines find themselves on the huge spaceship where the descendents of the humans who left 700 years earlier live blissfully unaware of their history or potential. OK, that wasn't as brief as I intended.

I thoroughly enjoyed the film. It creates a barren, grimy Earth, a beautifully inviting Solar System and a unique vision of human life on a spaceship far in the future. It succeeds on all levels of storytelling for me. I especially loved the homages to 2001: A Space Odyssey, and Thomas Newman's magical musical score is one of the two best I've heard in 2008, along with Carter Burwell's terrific In Bruges score. I'm also happy about who they used as the voice of the ship's computer. I can believe that some people may find it to be a kiddie movie, but I think it's far too romantic and thought-provoking to relegate it to that realm. I also didn't find myself being swamped by the film's message of conservation vs. consumerism as many others have. I thought the film's overriding message was one of humanity, and if it takes some non-human "creatures" to help us rediscover our lost humanity, that's OK with me. I don't find WALL·E to be a political film along the lines of Persepolis; that's for sure. :)

My List

1. The Incredibles
5. Ratatouille
7. Downfall
8. Up
10. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
11. Everything Will Be OK
12. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
15. WALL·E
16. Children of Men
19. The Pianist
21. Pride & Prejudice

[John-Connor]

Seen: 68/88

Never was a big fan of Short Circuit but I love WALL-E.

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Kill Bill: Vol. 1 is my #8. Couldn't choose between vol. 1 & 2. Really like the O-Ren Ishii character/anime and the story behind the Hatori Hanzo blade so I picked this one for my ballot.

Ballot: 16/25
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[rauldc14]

52/88. The lowest anyone has posted so far!

[ScarletLion]

14. Kill Bill Vol. 1 (340 points) - I quite like both Kill Bill's as far as Tarantino goes but it didn't get considered as one of the greats of the decade.

13. WALL-E (344 points) - Think I watched it once with my children. Not my bag baby.

[Sedai]

I think I still prefer Kill Bill Vol. II a bit more than the first, but I like them both well enough. Vol II didn't make my list, so obviously, I wasn't going to make it, either.

Wall-E is great, but I had that weird rule of not filling my list with too many Pixar flicks, so it ended up getting cut fairly early.

[Thief]

Tarantino nabs his third entry in the countdown, joining Wes Anderson and the Coen brothers as the only ones so far with three films in.

Meanwhile, Andrew Stanton places his second film in, after having Finding Nemo at #44. He also becomes the fourth director to go 100% (2/2), along with Edgar Wright, Pete Docter, and Brad Bird. Along with the last two, it marks an impressive showing from Pixar, placing 6 out of 7 films so far (maybe Cars still has a chance? :shifty: )

[Holden Pike]

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Both of these titles make positive jumps from the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium List: Pixar's WALL·E was #21 there while Tarantino's Kill Bill: Vol. 1 was #46. WALL·E was also all the way up at #4 on MoFo Top 100 Animated Films.

[Okay]

Wall E was my 18. It's a great film.

Kill Bill is ok but shouldn't be this high. Unfortunately everyone's obsessed with Tarantino movies.
Kill Bill is a great film. Almost made my list.
Wall E is ok but shouldn't be this high. Unfortunately everyone's obsessed with Pixar movies.

[Thief]

Kill Bill is a great film. Almost made my list.
Wall E is ok but shouldn't be this high. Unfortunately everyone's obsessed with Pixar movies.

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[Citizen Rules]

I previously wrote this about Wall-E:
Citizen Rules

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WALL·E (2008)

Director: Andrew Stanton
Writers: Andrew Stanton & Pete Docter (story)
Genre: Animation, Adventure, Sci Fi
Studio: Disney Pixar

Everyone loves WALL-E, the critics loved it! The fans loved it!..It won an Oscar for Best Animated Feature Film and was nominated for five other Oscars as well. WALL-E has a very high user rating of 8.4 on IMDB. But why all this love?

Myself, I was amazed at parts of the movie. I loved certain aspects of it. I enjoyed it, it was fresh (mostly) and yet there were a few things that didn't work for me...and two aspects of the movie that I out right hated.

What did I love? and hate? and what impressed me? Keep reading.


I loved the...opening scenes on a post apocalyptic Earth. An Earth that seemed to be filled with trash and remnants of some strange future society now vanished...except for one lone robot.

I like WALL-E the robot. He was personable and charming with his childlike curiosity over the discarded junk of a dead society. He was a bit sad too. Seemingly all alone on a planet void of life. I was glad to see his cockroach friend. Not so much so that he wouldn't be all alone, but because one lone cockroach gave a glimmer of hope that the world had not become a barren planet void of all life.
I bet you didn't think of that?

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World building...The movie did world building so well! Each frame of the film was full of detail. Even in the furthest corners of each frame I could see layers of someone's ideas that were put on the screen and yet if you blinked you'd miss them. I love the background sets of films and this movie was richly designed with animation that was a real joy to behold.

I also loved...the way the first scenes on Earth played out like an old Charlie Chaplin film with WALL-E as the little tramp exploring his world in a Chaplinesque type of way. Gosh I wish the film had went with that idea.

Hitchcock once said that the audience is always one step ahead of the film, anticipating what they will see next. I know I often image what the next scene will be like. I was disappointed when the film didn't turn out to be WALL-E going about his daily routines, finally discovering the mystery of what had happened to humanity. I suppose that would be too bleak for Disney, but oh well I can dream can't I.

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What I hated it...was Eve. I hated the way the robot looked. It had no charm and looked antiseptic and rather cheaply done too. It moved like a exile from the cartoon The Power Puff Girls, which I actually like but I sure didn't like Eve.

Even worse was Eve's voice, which instantly took me out of the film as it sounded like an actresses voice and not a robot. I bought into WALL-E sounding real as he was mechanical sounding but EVE sounded like a person duping their lines in the studio.

I really didn't care...about the romance between the two robots. That was cooked and I didn't buy it and didn't care. In fact the romance part was poorly done without much character building...lBy the time they leave Earth and head into space, I was thinking the film was a total loss.

But then it got real good!...when they got aboard the Axiom. Hot damn! Disney has some guts to do what they did with the humans. I couldn't believe they made their social commentary and satire, so blatant. I approve too! I'm talking of course about the humans who had grown grotesquely fat in the distant future after living a sedentary, self indulgent life abroad the Axiom.

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Some of my favorite scenes...Monty Python would've been proud of Disney.


Oh My God! I couldn't believe they showed these people chugging down sugary supersized drinks as they floated on their carts, because they were too fat to walk. Hey, I didn't say that, Disney did!

In one scene a portly human falls out of his cart and couldn't even get up, holly crap, that was bold of Disney! Will anybody take the social message of the film and improve their own life styles? I doubt it, but it was funny none the less.

I doubt anyone got this...but, the Axiom is not a space ship at all, it's a giant cruise ship...complete with a regenerative food buffet none the less, ha. I loved the reference to 'Gopher', I doubt the kiddies got it, but I sure did. I mean all one has to do is look at the ship and see it's a supersized cruise ship. They even had the big pool on the lido deck. So if you've ever been on a cruise you can appreciate just how priceless all that was. Loved this part of it!

But you know what else I hated?...The insidious cat-walling of the two robots saying over and over again E VAAA....WALLLL E....E VAAA... Repeat that a 100 times and I got space sick. I mean I literally got a headache over the dumbnumbdaness of it all.

I didn't really care about the bad robots vs the good robots...or the Captain vs the AutoPilot, nor did I care that they went back to Earth. I was actually hoping they would stay in space, cause Earth seemed better off without the Humans.

3.5++

[ueno_station54]

i saw WALL-E in theatre once and don't remember it well enough to comment on. big thumbs down to all QT films.

[Thief]

Critics

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Critics thoughts on our #14, Kill Bill Vol. 1...

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It currently has an 85% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 8.1/10 score on IMDb (with 1,100,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★★ and said:

"Kill Bill, Volume 1 shows Quentin Tarantino so effortlessly and brilliantly in command of his technique that he reminds me of a virtuoso violinist racing through 'Flight of the Bumble Bee' -- or maybe an accordion prodigy setting a speed record for 'Lady of Spain'. I mean that as a sincere compliment. The movie is not about anything at all except the skill and humor of its making. It's kind of brilliant."

Meanwhile Jonathan Rosenbaum, of the Chicago Reader, said:

"Even more gory and adolescent than its models, which explains both the fun and the unpleasantness of this globe-trotting romp."

As for our MoFo reviewers, seanc said:

"Tarantino starts Kill Bill with a simple narrative but immerses us in his world with precision. His non-linear story telling is distracting in the hands of other directors. Somehow when we come to the end of a Tarantino film we can't see the story being told any other way. That is because he knows at what point we need to know details better than we do. He realizes if he tells the story straight forward we will lose interest, the intrigue will be gone."

And meatwadsprite said:

"Tarantino's weakest writing of his career, paraded by fantastic music and amazing action set pieces. It teases you with the allure of a great film and disappoints when you explore further... In paying tribute to older films, Tarantino made his first poor film. A classic example of a film less than the sum of it's parts - a handful of great scenes do not make a complete great film."

[Iroquois]

One vote. Kill Bill Vol. 1 was my #16 - paired with Vol. 2 at #15 just to emphasise how much I think of them as one film. That being said, I obviously consider this the lesser half - though it does have what may well be the best part of either film with its House of Blue Leave third act, I ultimately feel like it has to tread water on setup just enough to slow things down while Vol. 2 is free to form a more cohesive conclusion to the Bride's journey (though some of that setup is pretty good, such as O-Ren's backstory or everything involving Hattori Hanzo). As for WALL-E, despite the fact that I've managed to avoid voting for any Pixar in this countdown for one reason or another (be it overexposure or simply not liking it much in the first place), this is the only one that I think I genuinely would've added to my list if only I either hadn't forgotten or made a last-minute decision not to include it. Not sure how I'd rank them all, but it may well be my favourite of theirs.

Anyway, while we're at it, I've seen 86/88 of the films announced so far (Werckmeister Harmonies and Pride and Prejudice being the exceptions).

[Deschain]

That woman deserves two spots on this countdown...and we deserve to die.

I’m now 3/3 for Pixars that made my list.

[Thief]

Critics

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Critics thoughts on our #13, WALL-E...

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It currently has a 95% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 8.4/10 score on IMDb (with 1,100,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★½ and said:

"Pixar’s WALL-E succeeds at being three things at once: an enthralling animated film, a visual wonderment and a decent science-fiction story... That it works largely without spoken dialogue is all the more astonishing; it can easily cross language barriers, which is all the better, considering that it tells a planetary story."

Meanwhile Stephanie Zacharek, of Salon.com, said:

"The picture feels weirdly, and disappointingly, disjointed, something that starts out as poetry and ends as product."

As for our MoFo reviewers, ahwell said:

"I like Wall-E because it has great characters, a touching story, and a beautiful ending. The themes for me more have to do with love and sacrifice than the world and the environment. At its core, it's a robot love story. Which... Well, I love that."

And DalekbusterScreen5 said:

"Wall-E is a film that definitely disappointed me when I saw it at the cinema. The first twenty minutes are good with their clear homage to 1920s silent cinema but once we find out what happened to the human race it starts to go downhill. The animation is stunning though and eight years on is still yet to be beaten."

[Thief]

Trailers

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[The Rodent]

Ahh, WALL-E...

1. Moon (2009) - 48th
.
6. Shaun of the Dead (2004) - 20th
.
8. Sin City (2005) - 47th
9. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) - 15th
.
11. Million Dollar Baby (2004) - 57th
.
13. Cast Away (2000) - 69th
14. WALL·E (2008) - 13th
.
20. Unbreakable (2000) - 62nd
21. Gladiator (2000) - 40th
.
22. Watchmen (2009) - 87th
23. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003) - 63rd
.
25. Inglourious Basterds (2009) - 18th

[MovieMeditation]

I had Kill Bill vol. 2 on the list and prefer that over the first. Didn't want to include both either.

I had Wall-E at #17. Very beautiful and well-made. Pixar took some chances with this one and for me it payed off.

[Thief]

Awards

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Now to the awards received by Kill Bill Vol. 1...



Empire Award for Best Director (Quentin Tarantino) and Best Actress (Uma Thurman)
Gold Derby Award for Film Editing (Sally Menke)
International Cinephile Society Award for Best Actress (Thurman)
Saturn Award for Best Action/Adventure/Thriller Film and Best Actress (Thurman)


Among many others.

As for WALL-E, it won...



Academy Award for Best Animated Feature Film
BAFTA Award for Best Animated Film
Saturn Award for Best Animated Film
Awards Circuit Community Award for Best Animated Feature of the Decade
Golden Globe for Best Animated Film

[kgaard]

I won't reiterate my feelings about Tarantino here. Wall-E is fine, but always felt to me like a movie-length response to this well-know Ikea commercial: . (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBqhIVyfsRg)
For those who like to read more lengthy quibbles, my friend Noah wrote about Wall-E (http://theamericanscene.com/2008/07/07/why-does-eve-pack-heat.html) back when it came out.

[mrblond]

Wow, for the first time, both films of the reveal were on my ballot.

• Kill Bill Vol. 1 was my #19. Saw it in the theater back then. I also have the DVDs of the two parts. Seen them multiple times, mostly Part One.
I thought, it will be shame not to include at least one Tarantino on my list and for the 2000's, I think this is the obvious choice.
Beautifully shot, a bit overdosed story featuring colorful characters which is usual for Quentin.
The scene in the sushi bar presenting the squabble between Hattori Hanzō and his employee is absolute cult. I can't stop watching this over and over again.
4.5
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• WALL-E - saw it for the first time about four years ago and instantly loved it. The first half of the movie is outstanding. I agree with the opinions that the story in the second half went down a bit.
I gave it only 2 pts at #24 on my ballot because I was sure it will be well supported.
Anyway 4.5
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My list:
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3. Amélie [#16.]
4. Snatch [#71.]
5. The Royal Tenenbaums [#35.]
...
8. Sideways [#39.]
9. Amores perros [#81.]
10. The Wrestler [#54.]
...
12. The Pianist [#31.]
14. The Man Who Wasn't There [#84.]
19. Kill Bill: Vol. 1 [#14.]
...
24. WALL·E [#13.]
...
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The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou [#98]
Werckmeister Harmonies [#97]
Pride & Prejudice [#93]
Caché [#85]
American Psycho [#79]
Battle Royale [#77]
Catch Me If You Can [#72]
Fantastic Mr. Fox [#70]
A Serious Man [#66]
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Yi Yi [#50]
Dancer in the Dark [#49]
Adaptation. [#43]
Before Sunset [#42]
Casino Royale [#37]
Lost in Translation [#32]
Requiem for a Dream [#26]
Inglourious Basterds [#18]
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[MovieFan1988]

Have seen so far: 30 - Kill Bill Volume 1 - Not a bad movie, I wouldn't say it's one of my favorite movies in the 2000s though.
Have not seen so far: 62

[Thursday Next]

Kind of interesting that five spots on the countdown get taken up by just two movies. (I'm not trying to argue that they aren't actually separate movies, but I wonder what might have made it if Kill Bill and Lord of the Rings hadn't been released in separate installments...)

Anyway, Two Towers is the second of the very well realised but sometimes a bit cheesy Lord of the Rings movies and I didn't vote for it. I still don't see why they discarded the actually quite dramatic ending of the book for some wandering. Good battle scenes.

Amelie struck me as a bit too quirky and insincere when I saw it, but maybe I ought to give it another chance.

Kill Bill I absolutely hated. Wiggle your big toe. Ugh.

I didn't really feel the charm of WALL-E.

[SpelingError]

I like Kill Bill Vol. 1 quite a bit, but I prefer Vol. 2 by a considerable margin. Neither of these films made my ballot though.

Wall-E starts out great, but lost me somewhat in the second act as it abandoned the sense of mystery and silence for some satire that was fine, I guess, but didn't grab me as much.

[cricket]

I liked Wall E a little bit, and a little bit more than Kill Bill.

[Harry Lime]

WALL-E is top top top Pixar and got some voter points from me at #8. Kill Bill Vol 1 is an excellent movie, would have made a personal top 100 of the decade, and Tarantino's best of the decade...but another true fact: Vol 1 and 2 are basically one film.

3. Yi Yi (2000)
4. Werckmeister Harmonies (2000)
5. City of God (2002)
6. Caché (2005)
8. WALL·E (2008)
9. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (2005)
17. Shaun of the Dead (2004)
22. The Aviator (2004)
25. Atanarjuat: The Fast Runner (2001)

[Harry Lime]

A dozen movies left? Does someone have a list since they should be guaranteed at this point.

[rauldc14]

Fellowship
Return of the King
Memento
Dark Knight
Mulholland Drive
There Will Be Blood
No Country
Eternal Sunshine
Zodiac
Pans
Spirited
In the Mood

[Harry Lime]

Thanks, raul. What do you all think will be #1? Seems like Fellowship to me. A little surprised Zodiac will be this high but hey I think it's a great film so all good. I think I'll make a top 10 guess after the next two are posted.

[donniedarko]

My List
1. The Pianist (2002)
2. Donnie Darko (2001)
6. Oldboy (2003)
8. Gran Torino (2008). (#108)
11. Caché (2005)
12. Ratatouille (2007)
14. Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003)
15. Downfall (2004)
16. Dancer in the Dark (2000)
17. A Serious Man (2009)
18. Requiem for a Dream (2000)
21. Battle Royale (2000)
22. City of God (2002)
25. Bellamy (2009. (1 pointer)

[donniedarko]

if i was a guessing man

1. No Country for old men
2. Return of the King
3.Dark Knight
4.There Will Be Blood
5. Fellowship
6. Pans Labyrinth
7. Memento
8. Spirited Away
9. Mulholland Drive
10. Eternal Sunshine
11. Zodiac
12. In the Mood

[ynwtf]

I swear, every time I take part in one of these things I learn just how much I do NOT know about you weirdos.

[ApexPredator]

Parts of Wall-E are strong, such as the sequence where Wall-E and Eva are dancing in space or where Wall-E tries to mimic the moves in Hello Dolly. But the satire on the ship was heavy handed and the villain is kinda meh. It didn't make my cut, although it's still a solid film.

Kill Bill Volume 1 is my number 20 (Considering my bad luck with the foreign film list, I'm tickled that I'm getting more entries here). Although the part at the van is kind of weak to be honest, each of the fight sequences feels different. From the brutal and up close battle with Vernilla to the wild chaos of the fight with Gogo to the elegant fight with O-Ren and the bad-ass one with the Crazy 88s. Throw in an anime sequence the chronicles how O-Ren got to be and Sonny Chiba as a sushi chef/master swordsman and the results are chef's kiss.

My List:
1. City of God
4. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
6. Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl
8. Up
9. Million Dollar Baby
11. Spider-Man 2
13. Brokeback Mountain
14. Finding Nemo
15. Requiem for a Dream
19. Amelie
20. Kill Bill Volume 1
21. Chicago (Just Missed)
22. The Wrestler
25. Gladiator

Honorable Mentions:
Remember the Titans
Unbreakable
Shaun of the Dead

[Thief]

Trivia

-

Kill Bill Vol. 1

https://images.mubicdn.net/images/film/33722/cache-23931-1445880080/image-w1280.jpg

Did you know that...


Quentin Tarantino has mentioned the 1971 western Hannie Caulder, starring Raquel Welch, as one of his influences behind the film?
Jack Nicholson, Kurt Russell, Mickey Rourke, Kevin Costner, Warren Beatty, and Burt Reynolds passed on the role of Bill? Aside from his hands, the character is not seen in this part.
Tarantino heard the all girl band The 5,6,7,8's on a store radio as he was leaving Japan after location scouting? After asking the clerk to sell him his CD, Tarantino listened to it and immediately signed them to play during the Showdown at the House of Blue Leaves.
the long take scene took 6 hours to rehearse and was shot in 17 takes? The whole Showdown at the House of Blue Leaves fight sequence took 8 weeks to film.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFCb-iYTSg0

[Thief]

Trivia

-

WALL-E

https://i.imgur.com/UfB3umE.jpg

Did you know that...


both WALL-E and EVE are voiced by not "traditional" actors? Ben Burtt is a sound designer for Pixar, while Elissa Knight was a Pixar employee that occasionally recorded "scratch tracks".
Roger Deakins was consulted about realistic lighting and cinematography?
WALL-E's eyes were inspired by a pair of binoculars that were given to Andrew Stanton during an MLB game?


https://i.imgur.com/ieAJFKR.jpeg

[Takoma11]

I expect 4 more films on my ballot to appear, and at this point I am now sure that 12 of them will not.

I'm sure everyone feels this way about their films that didn't make it, but at least three of them I genuinely feel didn't make the cut because they are so underseen.

[pahaK]

I've seen Kill Bill 1 and consider it as a top-tier Tarantino. I even considered it for my ballot, but haven't seen it in ages (and maybe wanted to punish QT for making lots of garbage). Just like other Pixars, I haven't seen Wall-E.

As we're so close to the end, I'll start revealing one of my missing films each day (in somewhat random order, starting from the ones I expect to have the least love from others).

Seen: 46/88

My Ballot:
1. Let the Right One In (2008) [#29]
5. Watchmen (2009) [#87]
6. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) [#15]
8. The Descent (2005) [#80]
13. The Children (2008) [DNP]
18. Battle Royale (2000) [#77]
25. Harry Brown (2009) [1-pointer]

[Wyldesyde19]

I expect 4 more films on my ballot to appear, and at this point I am now sure that 12 of them will not.

I'm sure everyone feels this way about their films that didn't make it, but at least three of them I genuinely feel didn't make the cut because they are so underseen.
Is Wendy and Lucy one of them? I just watched that and had I gotten around to it beforehand, it defiantly would have ranked highly on my ballot.
But that’s how it goes…there were so many films released in that decade it’s difficult, and almost a Sisyphean task, to get around to all of them in a timely manner.

[Takoma11]

Was Wendy and Lucy one of them? I just watched that and had I gotten around to it beforehand, it defiantly would have ranked highly on my ballot.
But that’s how it goes…there were so many films released in that decade it’s difficult, and almost a Sisyphean task, to get around to all of them in a timely manner.

Wendy and Lucy was a late cut, unfortunately, though I did love it.

I think that part of it is that two of the films on my list were worldview-shifting for me, and the fact that people either (1) haven't seen them or (2) don't think of them as top-tier is a little sad/disappointing.

I'll be interested to hear, when it's all over, what everyone's highest-ranked pick (from their own list) didn't make it. For me it'll be my #4 film.

[Captain Terror]

My #2 and #3 have no shot

[rauldc14]

My #2 and #3 have no shot

Anything not on my list of 12 has no shot

[ynwtf]

I've abandoned most of my list at this point, but I am still pining for Walken's masterpiece, Balls of Fury, to make the show. I was so excited to see it not fall into the one-pointers list!! Sadly, I didn't vote for it, but I had a feeling it would square itself comfortably on a lot of other lists. I must admit that I'm a bit giddy in disbelief that it's made it to such a high rank with this community.


For all the other flagrant faults in this developing list, this one is great stuff. I'm truly proud of some of you.

[PHOENIX74]

14. Kill Bill Vol. 1 : It's been 20 or so films since I had one appear from my list (there are 3 or 4 upper echelon locks to go) but 4 films that were on my list before I cut them have appeared in the last 12 - well, they were the films that didn't need my help and I felt comfortable letting go. Kill Bill Vol. 1 is the last of those that were on it for a long time - I have a slight preference for it over Vol. 2, but that's not to say that I don't enjoy the latter immensely. I've got to the point though, where I feel a little over-familiar with them - seeing them so many times that it's hard to judge just where they sit in comparison to others. The fact that I've watched them multiple times however speaks to their value as entertainment - Uma's battle's with Vivica A. Fox, Lucy Liu and the Crazy 88 are remarkable, and her ordeal with a somewhat unethical hospital attendant is typically over the top. The soundtrack is electric, cast enviable and revenge story like something from the pages of a comic book.

13. WALL-E : This was one of the Pixar films I caught up with in preparation for this countdown, and I agree with the general voting consensus that it's the best (unless there's another waiting in the wings.) This really is something different - the two main characters have to rely on a lot more than words to communicate - and they're as cute as hell. Everything goes up a notch when they end up on a mammoth space ship populated by grossly obese humans who have lost touch with where they come from - a prescient depiction of a ruined Earth. I enjoyed this one the most, and I'd love to hear about what kids think about it. When I was a kid I remember the robot from Short Circuit who reminds me quite a lot of WALL-E ("Number 5 is alive") - but these days the imaginative minds at Pixar bring today's younger generation stories and images that have my generation well and truly beat. No votes from me though.

Seen : 75/88

The List :

1. #1 contender
2. Adaptation. (2002) - #43
3. #1 contender
4. Will probably show - 95%
5. I'm still pretty confident - 93%
6. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007) - #51
7. Lost in Translation (2003) - #32
8. Dancer in the Dark (2000) - #49
9. A Serious Man (2009) - #66
10. Little Miss Sunshine (2006) - #102
11. 3% - Thought it had an excellent chance for a lower spot on the countdown
12. 66% - This is still getting mentioned in predictions - but with so few spots left I'm wondering
13. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (2005) - #78
14. 1% - Not enough spots left - this one was simply not popular enough
15. 1% - Was talked about a lot before the countdown, but it's not showing
16. The Secret in Their Eyes (2009) - #59
17. Sideways (2004) - #39
18. 0% - I cut a good film for this, but I do love this film - thought it had a chance
19. Michael Clayton (2007) - #109
20. In Bruges (2008) - #56
21. The Man Who Wasn't There (2001) - #84
22. 0% - A late addition after I remembered it and wanted it represented. Maybe too few have seen it.
23. Snatch (2000) - #71
24. 1% - I thought this was a certainty, but if it didn't show in the top 70 it wasn't going to show at all
25. World's Greatest Dad (2009) - 1-pointer

[Deschain]

I know at least 4 more of mine will make it and 3 others have no chance.

[Thief]

Short hint...


Let's get together and do nothing
Forget about the world around us
Come sit with me and write
about this or that, about my loss

[Takoma11]

My #2 and #3 have no shot

The Secret and I'll Always Know What You Did Last Summer?

Come on, man. You knew that was a pipe dream.

[Miss Vicky]

At this point only one more of mine will show.

[dadgumblah]

I loved Kill Bill Vol.1 but as I loved Vol. 2 a bit more and didn't vote for that one, well, you know.

Wall-E is top-notch Pixar but my sentimental favorite has always been Finding Nemo and since that's already on the list, no-go for this Pixar joint. I don't know---I'm expecting maybe three of mine to make it, but will not hope for more. I'll just wait and see. This list has been all over the place but I've loved it because of its unpredictability.


#4. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers 15
#5.Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl 63
#8. Unbreakable 62
#10.Million Dollar Baby 57
#15. Shaun of the Dead 20
#18. The Royal Tenenbaums 35
#20. Iron Man 83
#21 Finding Nemo 44
#22. Fantastic Mr. Fox 70
#23. The Descent 80
#25. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang 76

[gbgoodies]

I bought the DVDs both of Kill Bill movies years ago because there was so much hype about them that it piqued my curiosity, but I hated Kill Bill: Vol. 1 so much that I gave away the DVDs without even watching the second movie.


I first saw WALL·E in the theater when it was released. At the time, I didn't have high hopes for it because I had heard that there was very little dialogue in the first 40 minutes of the movie, but I loved it so much that when it was over, I immediately went back in and watched it a second time. I bought just about every toy and gadget of Wall-E that I can find, including my favorite, a Wall-E speaker that would dance when you played music through an mp3 player. I have seen the movie numerous times and it just gets better each time. It was #1 on my list, as well as #1 on my All-Time Movies list, #1 on my Animated Movies list, and #2 on my Sci-Fi Movies list.

I still buy just about every Wall-E item I can find. My most recent purchase was this Funko Pop Movie Moments of Wall-E and Eve:

84530


My list so far:
1. WALL·E (2008)
2. Monsters, Inc. (2001)
24. Ocean's Eleven (2001)
25. Beyond the Sea (2004)

[rauldc14]

Short hint...


Let's get together and do nothing
Forget about the world around us
Come sit with me and write
about this or that, about my loss


In the Mood for Love and Memento

[Hey Fredrick]

Have seen all but one from 24-13 and the one I haven't seen is probably not that surprising to anybody who knows what kind of movies I generally avoid. I did have three from my ballot make the top 25 so far.

Oldboy was my number 18 film. This is one of them movies that leaves an impression on you after the first viewing, good or bad, that's hard to shake. I thought it was great.

Next up is QT's Kill Bill Vol. 1, which I had at number 7. Until he made Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, this was the last QT movie I REALLY liked. Why? It's 90 minutes of slicing, dicing, blood spraying, severed limbs, eye gouging, door slamming/Pussy Wagon driving bad assery and 10 minutes with Sonny Chiba. That all adds up to about 110 minutes of a good time. Along with Sin City, this is one of the most watched movies of the decade for me.

Also making my ballot at number 8 is WALL-E. I am not a fan of Pixar at all. I just don't get what makes everything they do so outstanding. Being totally honest, they usually bore the hell out of me but this was different. I went in with very low expectations and ended up watching this twice in two days I liked it so much. Maybe it was my desire for a Short Circuit 3, scratching that itch a little, I don't know but there was something about this that just hit the right spot. If this isn't my #1 Pixar it's 1b.

[crumbsroom]

INGLORIOUS BASTERDS: Until Once Upon a Time in Hollywood came along, this was the QT penned film that seemed to have the most to say. Had the most heart. But exactly what it was trying to say, I don't think I'm so sure (something about how we relate to cinema). And as for the feelings, I'm not so sure I was always feeling them (the plight of Shoshanna). But it seemed that Tarantino was lifting himself out of his box of cinema for cinema's sake. His movies were becoming shaggier, more indulgent, more self important, even if I was never able to completely give him credit that he was really on point with his message. Thankfully, I don't really care about the thematic successes of a film. But I do care about filmmakers who take risks and put something out there that is willing to be misinterpreted. And IB definitely does this. It also contains probably his greatest of all characters (Landa), his most impressive moment of suspense (the opening, constructed without a single wink to the audience). And one of his more controversial but undeniably excitingly extreme. narrative elements (Nazi Hunters! Nazi scalps! I'm in!). When the films ends, with QT patting himself on the back about his masterpiece, I remember nodding and understanding why he thought this. Even though, ultimatelty, with all of these pluses, IB is the film of his that leaves me the most cold. As great as Melanie Laurent is, her storyline seems to meander in not so great ways. She is also the emotional heart of the film, but is presented to the audience at a great emotional distance. And as legendary as many treat the Who Am I game, I've always found it never hits those heights of suspense it requires to sustain its length.



Still, this is QT and I'm a fanboy. And whatever criticisms I have, I still retain a huge chunk of affection for the film. It was the beginning of his films probably being less satisfying as narratives, but so much more interesting as self indulgent hunks of cinema. His indulgences here maybe just are as interesting to me as they were in later films.


CHILDREN OF MEN: Great concept. Great execution. Great acting and characters. Unapologetically grim tone. I think this movie is probably above any criticism I can level at it. It is kind of a masterclass in this kind of filmmaking. I'm not in love with it, it's much too perfect for that, but I respect the hell out of it.



AMELIE: Was on my list, hopefully disproving any allegations that can be levelled at me for being a pretentious, grumpy cynic. If cinema is many to articulate all the different feelings and thoughts of living on this planet and being human, this is the candidate for whimsy and joy. It's a beautiful film, full stop. And it is also a great love letter to Paris, to mischief, to love and to filmmaking. Everything I want in a movie is here, and in this instance, I don't have to feel even worse about the plight of existence once I'm finished with it. I actually might even dance a little.


TWO TOWERS: Marvellous filmmaking. Pretty good source material. And while this trilogy has earned respect in my head, it certainly has never made its way to my heart, as it has so many others. Normally though, it is the battle scenes in these films that put me to sleep, in the instance of Two Towers though, the raid on the castle (or whatever it is) is stupendously exciting stuff. Other than this though, I don't really have much of a take away from Two Towers. Like many, it feels like it is mostly just the connective tissue to two other films.



KILL BILL VOL 1: Was on my list. Was probably number 2. Is it really the second best film of the decade...almost certainly not. But there was no other place for me to put this as the compulsive rewatchability it affords me is undeniable. I'm never not in a mood to watch this, and God knows how many times I've put it on. Is it mostly just a set up for part two, which will do most of the narrative heavy lifting? Yup and good on it. This allows it to simply express itself with a pure kineticism you almost never find in any film, like, ever. It just wants to put fists through things with its red eyes fixed on revenge. It's all I need. Well, that and a director who can distill everything this is thought to be disposable trash about film, and turn it into poetry. And that is ultimately what Kill Bill is. A poem. Even its excessive violence is beautiful, and hypnotic and hilarious. Tarantino would never defy gravity in such a way again. It's a special special movie.


WALL-E: Much like my feelings towards The Incredibles, WALL-E is a film that I think has an undeniably brilliant first half, only to be undone by its finish. As I watched it for the first time, all I wanted was for WALL-E to stay on that trash planet. I wanted the silence to continue. I wanted to just continue to contemplate the purpose of this sad robot. And then, all of a sudden I'm forced to reckon with a satire of American culture. Now, is this satire on point? Yeah, I think mostly. But its intrusion on what was basically perfection up until this point is an anchor thrown at everything that came before. It grounds what seemed a daringly mysterious experiment in near silent cinema, and starts hitting us over the head with such an obnoxiously loud point, it knocked all the love of the movie out of me. The kind of movie that I feel was overthought into irrelevance. Where some focus group must have come in and demanded all that quiet beauty lead us to a louder more brash climax to really stick in our head. Unfortunately, the satire at the end of this lodged right into mine, crashing through my skull into my brain, like a ball bearing dropped from a very immense height. Yes, noticeable, but not pleasant. Or the kind of impact I was asking for.

[Sedai]

Crumbs has a way of crystalizing some of my more nebulous feelings and thoughts about various films, perhaps more so than any other person on this site. This time re: Wall-E.

[Yoda]

Agreed, and I think that's a talent: most people are capable of hating or praising something effusively, but trying to articulate a nuanced opinion, or one that pulls in opposite directions in different ways, is tough.

[Thief]

Yeah, that's how he gets to you, but...

https://64.media.tumblr.com/46744c0095a526b24c73088dc8110e36/306da6433506084b-93/s540x810/e0d9e08c40b69ac4138438e91baf625c3d12701f.gifv

:D

[Thief]

By the way, reveals in a few...

[Sedai]

He can be my JEG...

[Thief]

https://c.tenor.com/76j9fsC3n0UAAAAC/hmm-thinking.gif

[Thief]

351 points, 24 listsIn the Mood for Love (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/843-in-the-mood-for-love.html)Director
Wong Kar-wai, 2000

Starring
Tony Leung Chiu-wai, Maggie Cheung, Rebecca Pan, Kelly Lai Chen

[Thief]

366 points, 23 listsMemento (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/77-memento.html)Director
Christopher Nolan, 2000

Starring
Guy Pearce, Carrie-Anne Moss, Joe Pantoliano, Mark Boone Junior

[Thief]

Hint breakdown...

Short hint...


Let's get together and do nothing (the couple from ITMFL spends time together and yet...)
Forget about the world around us (forgetting = amnesia, or short term memory loss)
Come sit with me and write (the couple from ITMFL spend time writing)
about this or that, about my loss (while Lenny writes on himself about the loss of his wife)

[Thief]

Seen both, voted for ONE...

Memento was my #6. This is a film that blew my mind back when I first saw it, not only for its inventive storytelling technique, but because of the tragedy of its story. I remember seeing it 2 or 3 times on the same day and still being mesmerized by it. The small cast is perfect and the film is rewarded by multiple watches. Nolan might have gotten bigger budgets, but he has never done a better film.

I saw In the Mood for Love for the first time a couple of years ago and I loved it. Strongly considered it for my list, but left it out. I knew it would make it, though.


This is where we are...

Seen: 73/90


1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6. Memento (#11)
7. Synecdoche, New York (#46)
8.
9. Kill Bill Vol. 1 (#14)
10.
11. Requiem for a Dream (#26)
12.
13. The Prestige (#38)
14.
15.
16.
17. Once (#103)
18.
19.
20.
21. Before Sunset (#42)
22.
23. Mother (#96)
24.
25.

[Chypmunk]

Yay - In The Mood For Love is another that made my personal ballot, beautifully vibrant and such a marvellous watch imo. Memento is great and was also briefly in with a shot but cutting it from my ballot wasn't that hard of a decision for me, glad to see it turn up although I'm somewhat surprised it made it quite this high.

Seen: 62/90 (Own: 43/90)

1. WALL·E (2008) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0910970/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#13]
3. Madeo [Mother] (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216496/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#96]
5. Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain [Amélie] (2001) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0211915/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#16]
6. Moon (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182345/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#48]
8. Der Untergang [Downfall] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#28]
10. Fa yeung nin wah [In The Mood For Love] (2000) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118694/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#12]
11. Oldeuboi [Oldboy] (2003) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364569/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3) [#22]
12. The Departed (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407887/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#19]
15. Låt den rätte komma in [Let The Right One In] (2008) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1139797/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#29]
16. The Descent (2005) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#80]
25. The Pool (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0911024/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_6) [1-ptr]



Faildictions (millennial edition v1.01):
26. Superbad (2007)
25. Memento (2000) [11]
24. Road To Perdition (2002)
23. The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers (2002) [15]
22. Shrek (2001)
21. Requiem For A Dream (2000) [26]
20. Oldboy (2003) [22]
19. Inglourious Basterds (2009) [18]
18. Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind (2004)
17. City Of God (2002) [25]
16. In The Mood For Love (2000) [12]
15. O Brother Where Art Thou? (2000) [21]
14. Children Of Men (2006) [17]
13. Amélie (2001) [16]
12. Zodiac (2007)
11. WALL·E (2008) [13]
10. The Departed (2006) [19]
9. The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring (2001)
8. Shaun Of The Dead (2004) [20]
7. Mulholland Drive (2001)
6. Pan's Labyrinth (2006)
5. There Will Be Blood (2007)
4. The Dark Knight (2008)
3. Spirited Away (2001)
2. The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King (2003)
1. No Country For Old Men (2007)

Eighteen down, eight to go - this is where it gets tough...

[Iroquois]

Well, we finally reached a point where both films got my vote. In the Mood for Love was my #1. Admittedly a bit of a shaky choice that could've swapped around with anything else in my top 5 on a different day, but in the moment choosing Wong Kar-wai's lavish period melodrama simply felt like the right choice. The more I think about it right now, the more I'm convinced that choosing this exquisitely-visualised realisation of its protagonists' subdued emotions was the right call - I'm even considering revisiting it at some point in the immediate future just to be sure. Memento, on the other hand, was my #14. I'm basically ambivalent on Nolan as a whole but he's done at least two or three films that genuinely work for me, chief among them being his reverse-order revenge story that makes simple but effective use of his preoccupation with time displacement before he ended up taking it to bigger but arguably lesser extremes as his career progressed.

[seanc]

In The Mood For Love was my #6. Just a beautiful film that I watched for the second time pretty close to submitting my list. Think it would have still been high, but that viewing cemented it as a favorite. I just love everything about it. The vibe f melancholy mixed with hopeful is just my jam in every way.

Memento is a cool flick. Been a while but I have seen it a couple times and it’s really well done. 4/5 for me but not on my list.

[John Dumbear]

Going into the home stretch and really see only two more off my ballot in the final ten.



1. 100%
2. City of God
3. Children of Men
4. Let the Right One In
5. Requiem for a Dream
6. 5%
7. Sideways
8. In Bruges
9. Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?
10. 80%
11. 0%
12. 0%
13. Quills
14. 5%
15. Old Boy
16. The Wrestler
17. 28 Days Later
18. 20%
19. Shaun of the Dead
20. 0%
21. 5%
22. 0%
23. 0%
24. American Psycho
25. The OH in Ohio 1-ptr



Have seen so far: 51/ 91
Put on list for future viewing: 13
My list that ended up on the cutting room floor (dammit!): 6
Put on "meh" list : 21
Zero chance of ever watching: 14
1 Ptrs: seen 8

[rauldc14]

Pippen (Raul) vs. Ewing (Thief)

https://c.tenor.com/VFta1F-zgOcAAAAC/scottie-pippen.gif

Nailed it.

[Captain Terror]

Lol, I just thought the same thing about my #5. I guess I just forgot to place that one when I was arranging the list. Because it's definitely not top 5- worthy. Also my 2 & 3 have no shot at this point. My top 5 is a mess.

The #5 I referenced here was Memento. Great film and I'm not ashamed for having it on my list by any means, but I was just surprised to learn that I'd had it so high on my ballot. I wouldn't describe it as my fifth favorite of the decade. But here we are.

[John Dumbear]

I've yet to make it through "Momento" after a few tries. Never heard of "In the Mood for Love".

This is my third countdown and each has their share of surprises and disappointments. Already looking forward to the next one.

[Thief]

Pippen (Raul) vs. Ewing (Thief)

https://c.tenor.com/VFta1F-zgOcAAAAC/scottie-pippen.gif

Nailed it.

Are you under the impression that I'm trying to "block" you in some way?

https://c.tenor.com/LfYgloztN2IAAAAd/barack-obama-what.gif

[ueno_station54]

i've been slow to get to other Wong Kar-wai films because I disliked Chungking Express and fell asleep through one of his other films. forgot Memento was a 2000's movie. wouldn't have voted for it, i saw it once in class and forgot it soon after.

[Thief]

Critics

-

Critics thoughts on our #12, In the Mood for Love...

https://i.imgur.com/Gpg2Isp.png

It currently has a 91% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 8.1/10 score on IMDb (with 141,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★ and said:

"The movie is physically lush. The deep colors of film noir saturate the scenes: Reds, yellows, browns, deep shadows. One scene opens with only a coil of cigarette smoke, and then reveals its characters. In the hallway outside the two apartments, the camera slides back and forth, emphasizing not their nearness but that there are two apartments, not one."

Meanwhile Gilbert Adair, of Independent on Sunday, said:

"The problem with In the Mood for Love is that its imagery has far too many face-cards and not enough twos and fives and eights, which, boring as they are, nevertheless constitute the indispensable nitty-gritty of narrative."

As for our MoFo reviewers, CiCi said:

"Every last element of this film was handled perfectly, and I can honestly say that this is the greatest film I have ever seen, regardless of location or genre. It was masterful, and a beautiful piece of cinema that I would classify as a piece of art."

And cricket said:

"This is supposedly a romance film but there is no heat. I felt no sexual tension or chemistry between the two leads. In fact, I felt more passion between the cheating spouses when they aren't even seen. I was left with the feeling that the two faithful spouses were not consummating their relationship on moral grounds. I thought this was sort of bogus, especially since I felt nothing between them as I noted before."

[Thief]

Critics

-

Critics thoughts on our #11, Memento...

https://i.imgur.com/dew1yrP.png

It currently has a 93% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 8.4/10 score on IMDb (with 1,200,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★ and said:

"Memento is a diabolical and absorbing experience, in which Pearce doggedly plays a low-rent Fugitive who patiently makes maps, jots notes and explains over and over that he has to talk fast because in a few minutes he'll start forgetting the conversation. "

Meanwhile Steven D. Greydanus, of Decent Films Guide, said:

"Intriguing and accomplished as it was, Memento left me unpersuaded that this trip was really necessary."

As for our MoFo reviewers, TylerDurden99 said:

"This is how a thriller should be; complex, engaging, fascinating and handled by a director who doesn't know how to tell good stories, but great ones."

And Citizen Rules said:

"I really don't know how to review this as I don't like bloody thriller crime movies, maybe it was well done but it's sure not for me... After an hour I got real tired of the 'I won't remember you bit', it just seemed like the director was milking it instead of exploring it. And the whole mind trip thing that Nolan is known for, I could care less about that. I thought the reasoning at the end of the film for what happened with Guy Pearce felt somewhat inorganic to the rest of the story. I'm not a big fan of Nolan anyway, but this is one film I just didn't care for."

[rauldc14]

Are you under the impression that I'm trying to "block" you in some way?

https://c.tenor.com/LfYgloztN2IAAAAd/barack-obama-what.gif

Just me letting you know I'm dominating clues.

[Thief]

At this point, clues are pretty much useless. As a matter of fact, as has been done in previous countdowns, I'm going to ditch them for the rest of the run.

[Chypmunk]

Thief - will you be dropping down to just the one reveal per day for the Top 10?

[MovieFan1988]

Fun Movie Bashing Part 2


50. Solaris >>> Yi Yi (2000)
49. Drive (2011) >>> Dancer in the Dark (2000)
48. Battle Royale >>> Moon (2009)
47. Moon >>> Sin City (2005)
46. Kill Bill: Volume 1 >>> Synecdoche, New York (2008)
45. Ghost World >>> 28 Days Later
44. Finding Nemo >>> Finding Nemo (2003)
43. Downfall >>> Adaptation (2002)
42. The King's Speech (2010) >>> Before Sunset (2004)
41. Let the Right One In >>> The Lives of Others (2006)
40. A History of Violence >>> Gladiator (2000)
39. Wonder Boys >>> Sideways (2004)
38. Dancer in the Dark >>> The Prestige (2006)
37. Ratatouille >>> Casino Royale (2006)
36. The Pianist >>> The Incredibles (2004)
35. Talk to Her >>> The Royal Tenenbaums (2001)
34. The Lives of Others >>> Kill Bill Volume 2 (2004)
33. The Prestige >>> Up (2009)
32. Almost Famous >>> Lost in Translation (2003)
31. The Fountain >>> The Pianist (2002)
30. Punch Drunk Love >>> Hot Fuzz (2007)
29. Toy Story 3 (2010) >>> Let the Right One In (2008)
28. Unbreakable >>> Downfall (2004)
27. The Royal Tenenbaums >>> Memories of Murder (2003)
26. Spirited Away>>> Requiem for a Dream (2000)
25. Black Swan (2010) >>> City of God (2002)
24. Inception >>> Donnie Darko (2001)
23. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers >>> Rataouille (2007)
22. The Social Network (2010) >>> Old Boy (2003)
21. Wall-E >>> O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000)
20. Oldboy >>> Shaun of the Dead (2004)
19. The Assassination of Jesse James >>> The Departed (2006)
18. Pan's Labyrinth >>> Inglorious Basterds (2009)
17. Memento >>> Children of Men (2006)
16. Zodiac >>> Amelie (2001)
15. Donnie Darko >>>The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002)
14. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King >>> Kill Bill Volume 1 (2003)
13. Up >>> Wall-E (2008)
12. The Departed >>> In the Mood for Love (2000)
11. Children of Men >>> Memento (2000)


44. Finding Nemo >>> Finding Nemo (2003) - Well would you look at that Finding Nemo found itself lol.

29. Toy Story 3 (2010) >>> Let the Right One In (2008) - The right one came in and it ended up with Andy's toys getting brutally massacred by the main lady vampire. She sure didn't have a friend in them toys that's for sure lol.

23. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers >>> Ratatouille (2007) -
Frodo and his buddies beaten by a rat and chefs, what a shame.[/QUOTE]

14. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King >>> Kill Bill Volume 1 (2003) - The bride slays all of the characters from the movie and takes the ring all for herself mwhahahaha :laugh:

Part 3 10 - 1 coming soon

[Captain Terror]

The Secret and I'll Always Know What You Did Last Summer?

Come on, man. You knew that was a pipe dream.

In hindsight it was probably a mistake to vote for BOTH Jeepers Creepers films. Lesson learned.

[Thief]

Thief - will you be dropping down to just the one reveal per day for the Top 10?

Yes, that's the plan. From now on, one reveal per day, as is usually done. Final day will have #2 and #1 revealed at the same time for obvious reasons. According to my calculations, that would be January 28.

[Holden Pike]

84539

Wong Kar-Wai's In the Mood for Love did not make the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium List, though it was #62 on the original MoFo Top 100 and #34 on the MoFo Top 100 Foreign Films List. Christopher Nolan's breakthrough Memento was #17 on the Millennium list and #35 on the original MoFo Top 100. Neither film made the 2020 edition of the MoFo Top 100. All ten of the eligible films from that recent list will make this countdown.

[rauldc14]

At this point, clues are pretty much useless. As a matter of fact, as has been done in previous countdowns, I'm going to ditch them for the rest of the run.

Ah, so you've admitted your defeat to me.

It was a hell of a run by me. I don't know how many I got right, bit certainly the clubhouse leader.

[CosmicRunaway]

I watched In the Mood for Love for a Hall of Fame, and was quite impressed by it at the time. The visuals and colour were stunning, and I remember it using repetition really well, but it didn't ultimately leave much of an impression on me. Maybe I should rewatch it.

Speaking of rewatches, I've seen Memento a number of times over the years. The more complex narrative structure was interesting the first time I saw it, but when you remove the film's gimmick, what remains isn't a particularly compelling story. I do still like the film overall, just not as much as I did when it was new.

Seen: 57/90

My List:
02. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) - #15
05. The Lives of Others (2006) - #41
06. Millennium Actress (2001) - DNP
08. Mother (2009) - #96
09. Shaun of the Dead (2004) - #20
10. Iron Man (2008) - #83
11. Paprika (2006) - #64
12. Memories of Murder (2003) - #27
16. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (2005) - #76
17. Hot Fuzz (2007) - #30
20. Moon (2009) - #48
25. Bon Cop, Bad Cop (2006) - 1-pointer

[Miss Vicky]

In the Mood For Love is a gorgeous movie and I respect it, but there wasn’t even enough room for all the 2000s movies I love.

Memento is the one Nolan movie I seriously considered but there just wasn’t room for it.

[Thief]

Trailers

-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWVDZ98AFhI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CV41hoyS8A

[ScarletLion]

12. In the Mood for Love (351 points) - My #1. A simply sumptuous film. Beautifully shot by Christopher Doyle. So tender. Probably Wong Kar Wai's best film. Just amazing. I could watch it on repeat all day long.

https://i.imgur.com/jDPFOKN.gif

11. Memento (366 points) - Pretty good film but not in my 25.

[Thief]

Ah, so you've admitted your defeat to me.

It was a hell of a run by me. I don't know how many I got right, bit certainly the clubhouse leader.

The only thing you've defeated is my patience. If I ever consider doing one of these again, your name will surely headline the list of cons.

[ynwtf]

Yes, that's the plan. From now on, one reveal per day, as is usually done. Final day will have #2 and #1 revealed at the same time for obvious reasons. According to my calculations, that would be January 28.

So you're saying Jan 28 is a hint for the #2 and #1 spots? Remember, remember, January 28'er.... wait. V was FIFTY-eight. I think someone has a spreadsheet miscalculation somewhere.

hmmmmmmmm.

[Sedai]

I've yet to make it through "Momento" after a few tries. Never heard of "In the Mood for Love".

Run, don't walk, to see this.

Meanwhile, this was the big mistake I made on my list. While shuffling films on and off, I somehow deleted this, and then managed to not get it back on the list before I submitted my final ballot. I had it up around #11 or so at one point, and I can't figure out how I managed to leave it off,. I am a jack ass, is the only explanation.

I mean, I only have this...

https://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/in-the-mood-for-love.jpg?w=640

...hanging above my desk at work. But I somehow manage to include something like The Hurt Locker on my list, but not In the Mood for Love. Terrible.

I watched Memento again after the countdown started, and yep, that probably should have made my list, as well. Oh well. I can change it all up in 10 years...

https://filmschoolrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Memento-Ending.jpeg

[John-Connor]

My first ballot error and I see I'm not the only one who simply forgot to vote for Memento which is ironic. :D

https://64.media.tumblr.com/591426113eed3e4a74f6e02abd30a3a0/4dd2757392fdb7da-56/s400x600/2173e9ae8a53f36ea08fed8d008e40656e9a365d.gifv

In the Mood for Love is my #22.

https://i.gifer.com/CefY.gif

Seen: 70/90
Ballot: 17/25

25. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
24. Snatch
23. 100%
22. In the Mood for Love
21. :mad:
20. Inglourious Bastardos
19. 100%
18. Sin City
17. :mad:
16. :mad:
15. Lost in Translation
14. :mad:
13. :mad:
12. The Pianist
11. Downfall
10. Master and Commander
09. Casino Royale
08. Kill Bill: Vol. 1
07. Ocean’s Eleven
06. 100%
05. City of God
04. Donnie Darko
03. Collateral
02. Gladiator
01. The Two Towers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSzy7UWjKNo

[ynwtf]

In the Mood for Love sits very confidently in my #15 spot. Just a beautifully shot movie.

Memento was fun the first time, still interesting the second time to piece things back together, but the novelty began to wear by then. I have the DVD somewhere, I think, but I've not bothered to watch it since. I think the only Nolan flick that had a chance for my list was Bowie. I mean The Prestige, and that didn't happen. I'm kind of shocked to see this. More so that it landed where it did. I can buy maybe wanting a Nolan representation and this maybe being the most innocent one to offer up. I suppose I'm just too jaded after Tenet, Dunkirk, Interstellar, Tenet, and uhm, Tenet.

[ScarletLion]

I suppose I'm just too jaded after Tenet, Dunkirk, Interstellar, Tenet, and uhm, Tenet.

Tenet, Dunkirk, Interstellar, Dunkirk, Tenet

[Holden Pike]

84541

Memento was on my list. Way down at twenty-four, but I had to represent. Nolan's clever amnesiac revenge pic was a kick to the cinematic nuts when it hit the scene way back in the year 2000 (insert classic Conan O'Brien bit here). Following was a promising micro-budgeted debut but Memento left no doubt there was a new gunslinger in town. Eleven features in and I too am in the camp that Tenet was laboriously vacant, but nobody is perfect. Revisit Memento and know that there are still masterpieces to come.

Now that we are at the eve of the Top Ten I can say unreservedly that only four more of mine will be showing up, leaving six from my ballot that missed. Your loss, MoFos.

HOLDEN’S BALLOT
1. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (#86)
2. Dancer in the Dark (#49)
7. Children of Men (#17)
8. Amélie (#16)
9. The Lives of Others (#41)
10. The Pianist (#31)
14. Synecdoche, New York (#46)
15. Moon (#48)
16. Fantastic Mr. Fox (#70)
17. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (#92)
18. A Serious Man (#66)
19. Adaptation. (#43)
20. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (#51)
21. Downfall (#28)
24. Memento (#11)

[mark f]

Wong Kar-wai's In the Mood For Love is a beautiful romance bordering on a mystery-thriller. Always interesting to watch but doesn't really affect me at all.

Memento is very entertaining and exciting in the moment with a twist in almost every scene, but it's still gimmicky. Close to making my ballot.

[John W Constantine]

in the year 2000 (insert classic Conan O'Brien bit here).


...in the year two thouuuussssaaaannndddddddddd...


Memento was my #6, watched it a few times during last year and had it in mind when I put my list together.


In the Mood for Love I liked enough to buy the criterion bluray but haven't watched it again yet. I liked pretty much all the Kar-Wi i have seen.

[KeyserCorleone]

Memento as my number 6. Recenty rewatched it with my mom, and I picked up on some more of the foreshadowing. I adore the unique structure for its spot-on scripting.

In the Mood for Love was a beautiful romance tale, but I felt like it was missing something.

Sent-In Ballot:

#2. Oldboy (22)
#3. Sin City (47)
#5. Requiem for a Dream (26)
#6. Memento (11)
#7. Yi Yi (49)
#8. The Departed (19)
#10. Casino Royale (37)
#13. Million Dollar Baby (57)
#15. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (53)
#16. Let the Right One In (29)
#20. Iron Man (83)
#21. Inglourious Basterds (18)
#22. Pirates of the Caribbean (63)
#25. Hot Fuzz (30)

Post-Ballot:

#2. Oldboy (22)
#3. Sin City (47)
#5. Requiem for a Dream (26)
#6. Memento (11)
#7. Yi Yi (49)
#8. The Departed (19)
#10. Casino Royale (37)
#12. Snatch (71)
#14. Million Dollar Baby (57)
#16. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (53)
#17. Let the Right One In (29)
#18. Slumdog Millionaire (not placed but it made my new 25)
#19. Monsters, Inc. (74)
#22. Iron Man (83)
#23. Fantastic Mr. Fox (70)
#24. Inglourious Basterds (18)
#25. Pirates of the Caribbean (63)

Seen 52/90

Reached over half the whole of it!

[ynwtf]

...in the year two thouuuussssaaaannndddddddddd...


I feel an ATHF bit brewing....

[Holden Pike]

I'll throw out a guess for the order of the Top Ten...

1. LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring
2. No Country for Old Men
3. There Will Be Blood
4. Spirited Away
5. Mulholland Dr.
6. LOTR: The Return of the King
7. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
8. Pan's Labyrinth
9. Zodiac
10. The Dark Knight

[Chypmunk]

Funny thing with Memento is I know I once watched the option to play it in chronological order but I genuinely don't remember anything about my feelings for that viewing :shrug:

[rauldc14]

My prediction
1. No Country
2. Fellowship
3. There Will Be Blood
4. Return of the King
5. Pans Labyrinth
6. Dark Knight
7. Spirited Away
8. Mulholland
9. Eternal Sunshine
10. Zodiac

[ynwtf]

guys. seriously. don't predict. prenice. you're better than that.

=\

[mark f]

My final total will be 18/25. Whatever.

[Chypmunk]

It'll be 15/24 and a Spanish entry for me.

[kgaard]

In the Mood for Love is very good, but not on my list. Like others have said/implied, Memento (my #8) was about where Nolan peaked--I'd like to see him to do more scaled-down films again.

[Citizen Rules]

Yes! finally another from my ballot. In the Mood for Love was my #15...I have Thursday Next to thank for this movie as I seen it in the 15th HoF where it was her nomination.


I previously wrote this about In the Mood for Love in the 15th HoF:
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=44016&stc=1&d=1524708516
In the Mood For Love (2000)


Ascetics and Aesthetics


The ascetics of a relationship built on unconsummated love, wrapped in gorgeous haute couture du jour. The aesthetics of 1963 Hong Kong were in abundance and Mrs. Chan was quite the fashion plate in all those high collared, form fitting dresses with the bold prints.

I'd give the movie 5 popcorn ratings just for the way she walked! Her hip swaying was part of the film's sub-context, and the cinematographer framed her in a way that we can see her curvy attributes from the mind set of Mr. Chow. That's not just wolf whistles for a hot babe...the film does indeed present her as a sexy, but not obvious woman of taste and class. Her walk clues us in on how Mr. Chow sees her.

I loved the art production of the film, the sets were so intricate so balanced. I'd say each room, each hallway and every scene is designed with feng shui in mind. That is if I understood what feng shui is all about. At any rate I thought it looked real cool. From the first shot of Mrs Chan's room with the painting of the red apples on the wall and a bowl of red apples resting on the table below...I knew someone had taken great care to make visual art out of the story.


https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=42030&stc=1&d=1519153280


Most shots had a 'closed in' feeling and we never get broader shots of the building they live in, all we see is a narrow corridor and a few rooms. Even when we enter their rooms the director chooses to limit the information there by not showing us much. I liked that! Especially as it put the focus on the two people as if they existed outside of the everyday world. That's focused directing.

rating_4

[thracian dawg]

I forgot to include In the Mood for Love on my ballot. That was a huge oversight; I definitely would have placed it high with somewhere between 18 - 22 points.

This film has breathtaking sound design and the wonderful temporal device of Maggie Cheung’s dresses. In a restaurant scene, the camera will pan to him then back to her and she’s wearing a new dress, then pan to him then return to her in another dress. Making that not one supper but three consecutive date nights.

Their circle of friends and acquaintances are decidedly tawdry, every morning Chow Wo-wan has to listen to his best friend tell him about his nocturnal festivities and Maggie manages her boss’s extra-marital affairs, supplying gifts for his wife and his current girlfriend.

This is a great subversive romance. This may actually be a fantasy relationship with them as surrogates only imagining their spouses passionate love affair. Notice how many times Maggie Cheung is placed in front of or behind bars.

[ueno_station54]

i knew two films on my ballot were gonna list but i didn't think either of them were top 10s lol.

[ynwtf]

prolly
Shaun of the Dead (2004)
nope
nope
nope
The Departed (2006)
Michael Clayton (2007)
Let the Right One In (2008)
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000)
Dark horse possibility
nope
nope
nope
prolly
In the Mood for Love (2000)
Collateral (2004)
prolly
Moon (2009)
nope
nope
Catch Me If You Can (2002)
tragically, nope
nope
nope
Kung Pow: Enter the Fist (2002)


Figuring 11/24 + a one-pointer.
:indifferent:

[Rockatansky]

guys. seriously. don't predict. prenice. you're better than that.

=\

Precoct

[Rockatansky]

Memento got my Nolan vote.


Haven't seen the other one yet.

[crumbsroom]

IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE: If this was a list of 25 'best' films, I may have included this. Wong Kar Wai has been a seismic voice in movies the last twenty years. A rebel, a pioneer, a deep cinematic soul. Unfortunately, as much as I like his films, I've never been swept away by them. And it is pretty clear by the presentation of the relationship in Mood for Love, that being swept away, not only by the love that is in the air, but by the directors general aesthetic, is very much a part of his point. So I always feel I'm missing one last ingredient for truly loving this. Part of the problem is, there is elements to Kar Wai's style that don't jive with my idea of beauty. I don't like his tendency to change frame rates, and slow things down, blur the city lights into a glittering smear as we move through the streets. It calls too much attention to the camera and pulls too much attention away from the sensuality of what he is filming. Now, I don't say this as a plea for a corrective to this, that he should start dialling down this signature move of his. What I'm saying is I want to learn how to become immersed in it, as is required. And I maybe just haven't watched his stuff enough to get there. Yet!


MEMENTO: I think I might have overlooked this. If I did, it should have been on my list, as the 'gimmick' of its structure unleashes not only an irreverence to how narrative is supposed to play out, but also serves a number of really important functions. It completely immerses us in the head space of the character. It inverts the movies sense of humor (an often overlooked element of the film) where we continually are laughing at moments that happened earlier in the film, as the set ups for the jokes become the punchlines. And, maybe most importantly, it allows the despair of the 'twist' to have particular resonance. After we wade through the time warping sensibilities of the movie, all the way to the end, to have the information that waits for us there (at what is actually the beginning, the place where all of this could have been avoided) it becomes a particularly deflating gut punch, and something which only illuminates the films sadness and wisdom about the pathetic human condition with every rewatch. It's a straight up masterpiece of suspense and the sweatiest of noirish sensibilities.

[Chypmunk]

10. Dark horse possibility

Ruffian (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499558/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0)?

[Thief]

Stats: Pit Stop #9
https://i.imgur.com/KI6bThJ.jpg

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This is the ninth and penultimate pit stop (90), so here are our stats so far:

Decade Breakdown


2000 = 17
2001 = 10
2002 = 7
2003 = 8
2004 = 10
2005 = 12
2006 = 6
2007 = 6
2008 = 6
2009 = 8


Surprisingly, 2000 continues to widen the gap, with 2005 falling further back, and then 2001 and 2004.


Director Breakdown


Joel & Ethan Coen = 3 (O Brother, Where Art Thou?, The Man Who Wasn't There, A Serious Man)
Wes Anderson = 3 (The Royal Tenenbaums, Life Aquatic of Steve Zissou, Fantastic Mr. Fox)
Christopher Nolan = 3 (Memento, The Prestige, Batman Begins)
Quentin Tarantino = 3 (Kill Bill Vol. 1, Inglourious Basterds, Kill Bill Vol. 2)
Edgar Wright = 2 (Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz) = 100%
Andrew Stanton = 2 (WALL-E, Finding Nemo) = 100%
Brad Bird = 2 (Ratatouille, The Incredibles) = 100%
Pete Docter = 2 (Up, Monsters Inc.) = 100%
Alfonso Cuarón = 2 (Children of Men, Y tu mamá también)
Darren Aronofsky = 2 (Requiem for a Dream, The Wrestler)
Bong Joon-ho = 2 (Memories of Murder, Mother)
Clint Eastwood = 2 (Mystic River, Million Dollar Baby)
Ang Lee = 2 (Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Brokeback Mountain)
Danny Boyle = 2 (28 Days Later, Sunshine)
Richard Linklater = 2 (Before Sunset, Waking Life)


A couple of new additions, most notably, Tarantino who springs into the list with two films within the last 10 entries. Also, after today, Nolan also joins the group of 3. As mentioned previously, Edgar Wright and Andrew Stanton get their second films in to complete their perfect run for the decade. Finally, Alfonso Cuarón is the other new addition to the list.


Genre Breakdown


Musical = 2
Biopic drama = 6
Romantic drama = 6
Horror = 5
Horror comedy = 1
Coming of age = 2
Thriller = 12
Drama/mystery = 4
Comedy drama = 10
Romantic comedy = 1
Action comedy = 3
Epic, war drama = 3
Psychological drama = 5
Animated drama = 2
Animated comedy = 7
Superhero action = 4
Crime = 8
Western/Neo-western = 2
Science fiction = 2
Martial arts = 3
Action = 2


After 90 films, thrillers continue on top with comedy dramas next. Crime films, and then animated comedies are next.


And finally, with three more foreign films in this last batch we have 25 out of 90. As for animated, films, we add one more for a total of 9.

[ynwtf]

Ruffian (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499558/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0)?


<3

[Thief]

Awards

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Now to the awards received by In the Mood for Love...



Asia-Pacific Film Festival Award for Best Cinematography (Christopher Doyle and Ping Bin Lee) and Best Editing (William Chang)
British Independent Film Award for Best Foreign Independent Film
Cannes Film Festival for Best Actor (Tony Leung)
Chlotrudis Award for Best Cinematography (Doyle and Ping) and Best Movie (tied with Mulholland Dr.)
Durban International Film Festival Award for Best Lead Performance (Maggie Cheung)
Faro Island Film Festival Audience Award for Best Actor (Leung) and Best Film


Among many others.

As for Memento, it won...



Saturn Award for Best Action/Adventure/Thriller Film
AFI Award for Screenwriter of the Year (Christopher Nolan)
Awards Circuit Community Award for Best Screenplay (Christopher and Jonathan Nolan) and Best Editing (Dody Dorn)
Chlotrudis Award for Best Director (Nolan)
Sundance Film Festival Waldo Salt Screenwriting Award (Nolan brothers)

[mrblond]

• For a long period, I've avoided the contemporary far east movies just because noticing their popularity among the western crowd. Couple of years ago, I organized a month dedicated to these films, watching a selection of 5 titles I've made. Well, I was deeply impressed by In the Mood for Love, feeling alone in the understanding what this movie is actually about. Since then, I constantly consider this title for my top slots for polls like this.
It was #16 on my ballot. 4.5

In the Mood for Love was the winner in MoFo 2000 Film Chart (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=64356).
I've expected it to make the Top 5 of the decade.

84552
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• I saw Memento when it came out in the theaters. It was just OK and nothing more it pretended to be.
3.5


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my stats
▽
Top 100 seen 52/90.
(seen one pointers 3/38 • seen 101-110: 5/10)
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My list:
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3. Amélie [#16.]
4. Snatch [#71.]
5. The Royal Tenenbaums [#35.]
...
8. Sideways [#39.]
9. Amores perros [#81.]
10. The Wrestler [#54.]
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12. The Pianist [#31.]
14. The Man Who Wasn't There [#84.]
16. In the Mood for Love [#12.]
19. Kill Bill: Vol. 1 [#14.]
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24. WALL·E [#13.]
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The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou [#98]
Werckmeister Harmonies [#97]
Pride & Prejudice [#93]
Caché [#85]
American Psycho [#79]
Battle Royale [#77]
Catch Me If You Can [#72]
Fantastic Mr. Fox [#70]
A Serious Man [#66]
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Yi Yi [#50]
Dancer in the Dark [#49]
Adaptation. [#43]
Before Sunset [#42]
Casino Royale [#37]
Lost in Translation [#32]
Requiem for a Dream [#26]
Inglourious Basterds [#18]
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[Sedai]

I'll throw out a guess for the order of the Top Ten...

1. LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring
2. No Country for Old Men
3. There Will Be Blood
4. Spirited Away
5. Mulholland Dr.
6. LOTR: The Return of the King
7. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
8. Pan's Labyrinth
9. Zodiac
10. The Dark Knight

And I will take a shot at guessing your final 4 ballot entries:



No Country for Old Men
There Will be Blood
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Zodiac


I know you aren't a big PTA fan, but I think TWBB does enough right, and excels at so much else, while also not being your typical Altman/Scorsese mashup. Not 100% on this one...maybe Pan's Labyrinth in this slot? Nah, it's TWBB.

[Kaplan]

Memento made my list at #17. The more I see it the more I'm convinced it's not a gimmick film, but the absolute best way of telling this story, and it has never failed to draw me into the perspective of the character.

My List:
3. Synecdoche, New York (#46)
4. Inglourious Basterds (#18)
6. Let the Right One In (#29)
8. Sin City (#47)
13. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (#53)
14. The Lives of Others (#41)
16. The Royal Tenenbaums (#35)
17. Memento (#11)
18. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (#86)
19. The Incredibles (#36)
20. Lost in Translation (#32)
22. The Man Who Wasn’t There (#84)
24. Moon (#48)

[pahaK]

I saw Memento when it was newish. I guess it did something right, as I still remember the concept, but it felt awfully gimmicky then. One of the few Nolans I'm planning to rewatch at some point. And I guess I haven't been in the mood for love :p

Seen: 47/90

My Ballot:
1. Let the Right One In (2008) [#29]
5. Watchmen (2009) [#87]
6. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) [#15]
8. The Descent (2005) [#80]
13. The Children (2008) [DNP]
18. Battle Royale (2000) [#77]
19. Chocolate (2008) [DNP]
25. Harry Brown (2009) [1-pointer]

[crumbsroom]

13. The Children (2008) [DNP]


I totally forgot about this movie. It may have been an outlier to get my 1 pointer if i had remembered. Criminally overlooked.

[ScarletLion]

IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE: If this was a list of 25 'best' films, I may have included this.

Can I ask what exactly your "top 25" list consists of then?

[Mr Minio]

Apart from a few 'obvious' masterpieces, this is a rote, insipid list, MoFo's worst to date. An equivalent of looking up IMDb's top films of the 2000s. Then, there's the social aspect. But I'm not interested in it anymore. inb4 you haven't even sent a list. True, but it wouldn't have changed anything. The non-English language list was better than this, and my participation had nothing to do with that fact (none of the films from my list made it IIRC).

Yeah, an ugh list. But I guess that's the issue with most accumulated lists. There's hope individual ballots will be more captivating. But I doubt it.

[crumbsroom]

Can I ask what exactly your "top 25" list consists of then?


My list of 'best' movies? Or the actual list I submitted, which is just the ones I like best.

[pahaK]

Apart from a few 'obvious' masterpieces, this is a rote, insipid list, MoFo's worst to date. An equivalent of looking up IMDb's top films of the 2000s. Then, there's the social aspect. But I'm not interested in it anymore. inb4 you haven't even sent a list. True, but it wouldn't have changed anything. The non-English language list was better than this, and my participation had nothing to do with that fact (none of the films from my list made it IIRC).

Yeah, an ugh list. But I guess that's the issue with most accumulated lists. There's hope individual ballots will be more captivating. But I doubt it.

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[Yoda]

I'm still waiting for a criticism of any of these lists that doesn't take hundreds of words to say "I'm upset more people don't like the things I like."

Of course, the real (unanswerable) question is, if more people did, who would still like them, and who would somehow find other lesser-known things to like? Sometimes there's just a difference in taste (which is totally unremarkable), but sometimes I get the sense the lack of popularity is a substantial part of the appeal. In other words, sure, some people like things just because they're popular, but the inverse is true, too.

[ynwtf]

Apart from a few 'obvious' masterpieces, this is a rote, insipid list, MoFo's worst to date. An equivalent of looking up IMDb's top films of the 2000s. Then, there's the social aspect. But I'm not interested in it anymore. inb4 you haven't even sent a list. True, but it wouldn't have changed anything. The non-English language list was better than this, and my participation had nothing to do with that fact (none of the films from my list made it IIRC).

Yeah, an ugh list. But I guess that's the issue with most accumulated lists. There's hope individual ballots will be more captivating. But I doubt it.

Not so fast there, pard'ner....
https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2259075#post2259075


a
aaaaaahjhhhh!!!! PAYOFF nearly a month and a half in the making!!!! I LOVE ME!!!!!1!

[pahaK]

I'm still waiting for a criticism of any of these lists that doesn't take hundreds of words to say "I'm upset more people don't like the things I like."

Of course, the real (unanswerable) question is, if more people did, who would still like them, and who would somehow find other lesser-known things to like? Sometimes there's just a difference in taste (which is totally unremarkable), but sometimes I get the sense the lack of popularity is a substantial part of the appeal. In other words, sure, some people like things just because they're popular, but the inverse is true, too.

I was just thinking the same (as you did in the 2nd paragraph). It's like the old music joke about a guy who raves about a demo, but once the band releases the same songs on a label they turn to commercial garbage. To me, Minio is a caricature of a snob movie elitist - I just don't know if he's for real or is he just trolling.

[Yoda]

It'd be very interesting to see what everyone liked--movies, music, books, whatever--in a world where nobody got to see what everyone else liked first.

It would definitely be different.

[John Dumbear]

It'd be very interesting to see what everyone liked--movies, music, books, whatever--in a world where nobody got to see what everyone else liked first.

It would definitely be different.




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[Sedai]

My taste in film would be even worse than it is now if I didn't get to see what some of the more knowledgeable MoFos liked...

[ueno_station54]

Apart from a few 'obvious' masterpieces, this is a rote, insipid list, MoFo's worst to date. An equivalent of looking up IMDb's top films of the 2000s. Then, there's the social aspect. But I'm not interested in it anymore. inb4 you haven't even sent a list. True, but it wouldn't have changed anything. The non-English language list was better than this, and my participation had nothing to do with that fact (none of the films from my list made it IIRC).

Yeah, an ugh list. But I guess that's the issue with most accumulated lists. There's hope individual ballots will be more captivating. But I doubt it.
lmao this dude sucks even when i agree with him.

[SpelingError]

Two films from my ballot.

In the Mood for Love was my #15. Just a gorgeous film from start to finish. Everything about it - the beautiful production design, the melancholy and inevitable feel of the film, and the wide emotional spectrum it creates in the final act - is top notch and very well-realized. Almost tempted to rewatch it, in fact.

As for Memento, I've had my ups and downs with Nolan over the years, but this is my favorite of his films. While the complex plot structures and engineered deception of his films can be hit or miss with me, this is a case where the fractured plot structure is all at the heart of the protagonist's short-term memory loss and inability to solve the mystery of who killed his wife. It's a great gimmick which puts you in the head of the protagonist. It's a real shame that The Dark Knight will place higher on this list, but oh well.

1. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (#78)
2.
3.
4. Children of Men (#17)
5.
6.
7. A Serious Man (#66)
8.
9. 28 Days Later (#45)
10.
11. Memento (#11)
12.
13. Shaun of the Dead (#20)
14.
15. In the Mood for Love (#12)
16. Requiem For a Dream (#16)
17.
18. The Pianist (#31)
19.
20. Moon (#48)
21.
22.
23. Sunshine (#88)
24.
25. The New World (#99)

[SpelingError]

Here are the odds that the remaining films on my ballot have of making this list:

1. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (#78)
2. Will make it for sure.
3. Won't make it. I blame Takoma for this.
4. Children of Men (#17)
5. Won't make it. I blame MovieGal for this.
6. Will make it for sure.
7. A Serious Man (#66)
8. Won't make it. Can't think of anyone to blame for this.
9. 28 Days Later (#45)
10. Won't make it. I blame crumbsroom for this.
11. Memento (#11)
12. This one might make it. If not though, I blame Thief for this.
13. Shaun of the Dead (#20)
14. Won't make it. I blame Takoma again for this.
15. In the Mood for Love (#12)
16. Requiem For a Dream (#16)
17. Won't make it. Can't think of anyone to blame for this.
18. The Pianist (#31)
19. Will make it for sure.
20. Moon (#48)
21. Won't make it. Since I already blamed Takoma twice, I'll blame Mr Minio for this.
22. Won't make it. I can't think of anyone to blame for this.
23. Sunshine (#88)
24. This one might make it. If not though, I blame Stu for this.
25. The New World (#99)

Btw, I'm not actually blaming any of you. I'm just being goofy here.

[John W Constantine]

Apart from a few 'obvious' masterpieces, this is a rote, insipid list, MoFo's worst to date. An equivalent of looking up IMDb's top films of the 2000s. Then, there's the social aspect. But I'm not interested in it anymore. inb4 you haven't even sent a list. True, but it wouldn't have changed anything. The non-English language list was better than this, and my participation had nothing to do with that fact (none of the films from my list made it IIRC).

Yeah, an ugh list. But I guess that's the issue with most accumulated lists. There's hope individual ballots will be more captivating. But I doubt it.


Yeah, Juno was a pretty bad call

[Mr Minio]

I don't expect people to like the films I like. As a matter of fact, some interesting lists contain films I'm either indifferent to or downright dislike. But these lists come with an interesting edge to them. Admittedly, these are mostly lists curated by just one person, hence my point about how accumulated lists often come with their issues.

So there's that. Best lists are personal. They allow you to get into the head of their maker and get a better understanding of the maker as a cinephile. Of course, this can lead to misunderstandings, but that's one entertaining side to it! Clearly, if the maker is totally oblivious to film, his list will probably be riddled with uninteresting choices, just a cookie-cutter copy of the most popular films. Mercifully, it can still be saved by write-ups with details on why they find these films personal. (But there's also an issue of the person refusing to say why a work of art is personal, which is totally fine).

So what we're left with, most of the time is just the films. And way too many people only watch the absolute surface level cinema. This is boring. This leads to no new discoveries. This leads to no appealing, personal lists. Because to get below the surface, one needs to invest a lot of time into both finding and then watching films outside of the IMDb Top 250. Without this, we get another list with The Godfather, Taxi Driver, and The Lighthouse, if we're lucky. That's fine. These are good films. And it's fine to have them on the list if one really loves them, but had one delved deeper into the art form of cinema, one would have discovered there are better, and definitely potentially more personal, films out there begging to be discovered. But unanimously sticking to the 'canon' (whatever that is) won't lead anybody into discovering them. To make it clear, obscure films (however you define that) are not the aim of film-watching itself but rather the by-product of getting deeper into cinema, and it's only natural that some of them will turn out to be as good (if not better) than the ubiquitous canon (whatever that is).

And that's twice as true with accumulated lists. By the sheer law of statistics, the more lists you combine, the less interesting the final list will be. That's a ranking of popularity rather than quality. The most interesting choices are cut off during the process. That's why the list of one-pointers is more interesting than the final list. And that's, maybe, why I'm bound to be disappointed with a list of the best films of the 2000s. People probably haven't had enough time to discover great films from that era. Or haven't had enough other people to tell them what films are worth discovering (incidentally, many film critics somehow get into the retard mode once we're talking about post-2000 cinema and often choose total garbage even if their older film choices were better, so it's a universal problem). Yes, lots of commercial cinema is garbage but not because it's commercial. And lots of obscure cinema is garbage, too. Trust me, I've seen enough fancy raters on Letterboxd that only watch obscure films and whose shtick is to watch and rate films nobody else has rated before (and unsurprisingly, these films are impossible to find, they're mostly not that good either, by the way).

A film is not better by the sheer virtue of being less known. But it's often much more interesting because of that. And a more interesting film is more interesting to check out. And by checking out more films, the possibility of discovering new favorites increases. But then you stumble upon a top of films that only contains the most tedious set of films you see everywhere. And what's there to get from it? Totally nothing.

I think most people watch films but they don't know why they watch films. But that's fine.

It'd be very interesting to see what everyone liked--movies, music, books, whatever--in a world where nobody got to see what everyone else liked first
Sounds good on the surface, but comes with some issues. For one, if you never saw what anybody else liked, you'd be cut off from thousands of potentially wonderful works of art. That's how one discovers new favorites, by looking up other people's favorites. That's what searching on your own implies, too. Even many members of MoFo discovered great films thanks to looking up the "Rate the last film you saw" or personal list threads. If one was to be cut off from that, one would have to be forced to stay at the mercy of local theatres and unimaginative TV broadcasts. That, on the other hand, would contribute even more to cookie-cutter, boring, uninteresting lists of favorites.

So, unless, in the aforementioned world, we all had equal access to all works of art there are and unlimited time to experience literally all of them (or rather could experience them all just like that, in a second), then yes, it'd be cool. But since our time is limited, we must make choices as to what to watch, which inevitably implies some form of discrimination. I like the idea of tabula rasa you were probably suggesting here, but this is simply impossible to achieve. Even our previous watches inform future ones and form our taste.

lmao this dude sucks even when i agree with him. Well, nobody's perfect!

[ynwtf]

Here are the odds that the remaining films on my ballot have of making this list:

...

I will happily take blame for numbers 8 and 17. Mybad there. =\

[SpelingError]

I will happily take blame for numbers 8 and 17. Mybad there. =\

Blame has been assigned. Thanks for stepping up :up:

[ueno_station54]

I don't expect people to like the films I like. As a matter of fact, some interesting lists contain films I'm either indifferent to or downright dislike. But these lists come with an interesting edge to them. Admittedly, these are mostly lists curated by just one person, hence my point about how accumulated lists often come with their issues.

So there's that. Best lists are personal. They allow you to get into the head of their maker and get a better understanding of the maker as a cinephile. Of course, this can lead to misunderstandings, but that's one entertaining side to it! Clearly, if the maker is totally oblivious to film, his list will probably be riddled with uninteresting choices, just a cookie-cutter copy of the most popular films. Mercifully, it can still be saved by write-ups with details on why they find these films personal. (But there's also an issue of the person refusing to say why a work of art is personal, which is totally fine).

So what we're left with, most of the time is just the films. And way too many people only watch the absolute surface level cinema. This is boring. This leads to no new discoveries. This leads to no appealing, personal lists. Because to get below the surface, one needs to invest a lot of time into both finding and then watching films outside of the IMDb Top 250. Without this, we get another list with The Godfather, Taxi Driver, and The Lighthouse, if we're lucky. That's fine. These are good films. And it's fine to have them on the list if one really loves them, but had one delved deeper into the art form of cinema, one would have discovered there are better, and definitely potentially more personal, films out there begging to be discovered. But unanimously sticking to the 'canon' (whatever that is) won't lead anybody into discovering them. To make it clear, obscure films (however you define that) are not the aim of film-watching itself but rather the by-product of getting deeper into cinema, and it's only natural that some of them will turn out to be as good (if not better) than the ubiquitous canon (whatever that is).

And that's twice as true with accumulated lists. By the sheer law of statistics, the more lists you combine, the less interesting the final list will be. That's a ranking of popularity rather than quality. The most interesting choices are cut off during the process. That's why the list of one-pointers is more interesting than the final list. And that's, maybe, why I'm bound to be disappointed with a list of the best films of the 2000s. People probably haven't had enough time to discover great films from that era. Or haven't had enough other people to tell them what films are worth discovering (incidentally, many film critics somehow get into the retard mode once we're talking about post-2000 cinema and often choose total garbage even if their older film choices were better, so it's a universal problem). Yes, lots of commercial cinema is garbage but not because it's commercial. And lots of obscure cinema is garbage, too. Trust me, I've seen enough fancy raters on Letterboxd that only watch obscure films and whose shtick is to watch and rate films nobody else has rated before (and unsurprisingly, these films are impossible to find, they're mostly not that good either, by the way).

A film is not better by the sheer virtue of being less known. But it's often much more interesting because of that. And a more interesting film is more interesting to check out. And by checking out more films, the possibility of discovering new favorites increases. But then you stumble upon a top of films that only contains the most tedious set of films you see everywhere. And what's there to get from it? Totally nothing.

I think most people watch films but they don't know why they watch films. But that's fine.


Sounds good on the surface, but comes with some issues. For one, if you never saw what anybody else liked, you'd be cut off from thousands of potentially wonderful works of art. That's how one discovers new favorites, by looking up other people's favorites. That's what searching on your own implies, too. Even many members of MoFo discovered great films thanks to looking up the "Rate the last film you saw" or personal list threads. If one was to be cut off from that, one would have to be forced to stay at the mercy of local theatres and unimaginative TV broadcasts. That, on the other hand, would contribute even more to cookie-cutter, boring, uninteresting lists of favorites.

So, unless, in the aforementioned world, we all had equal access to all works of art there are and unlimited time to experience literally all of them (or rather could experience them all just like that, in a second), then yes, it'd be cool. But since our time is limited, we must make choices as to what to watch, which inevitably implies some form of discrimination. I like the idea of tabula rasa you were probably suggesting here, but this is simply impossible to achieve. Even our previous watches inform future ones and form our taste.

Well, nobody's perfect!
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[pahaK]

Mr Minio

You know what, I agree with almost everything you wrote on that big long post above. I just don't understand why you always try to give that snobby ass initial impression.

It's not just about the accumulated lists, though, but (IMO) a weird desire for many to try to make objective "best films" ballots instead of personal favorites. The former always leads to canonized, boring lists with little individuality or discovery. That's why I also, at least to a degree, agree with Siddon on his desire to make more focused and narrow lists where the suppressing canon wouldn't have as much effect.

And yeah, you also managed to put to words what I was just planning to reply to Yoda about not knowing what others think. With the sheer volume of movies out there, it would be almost impossible to find the stuff you like if you couldn't use the existing reviews/opinions as a reference. Maybe in a magical perfect world, we could forget those other opinions the moment we start watching the film?

[Takoma11]

Here are the odds that the remaining films on my ballot have of making this list:
3. Won't make it. I blame Takoma for this.

Hey now!

14. Won't make it. I blame Takoma again for this.

Okay, that one is fair. The product of two prime numbers? WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE FILM #14?!

[donniedarko]

In The Mood For Love didn't resonate with me at all when I had watched it, but this was nearly a decade ago well before I was ever in a relationship , who knows maybe it'd tell me something now.

Memento is a really good film but it's truly one of those one time magic movies, I don't think I'll ever watch it again. I prefer Following, a much less known Nolan film

[Wyldesyde19]

I think it’s worth nothing that one shouldn’t take a countdown seriously as any sort of definitive list. And one definitely shouldn’t complain in one lengthy post about what is included and what isn’t included in a rather dismissive manner.

Especially when said individual has already listed Star Crash among his top 300 films of all time. 😏

[donniedarko]

In The Mood for Love didn't even make the millenium list? Wild that it almost cracked the top ten this time around

[Thursday Next]

In the Mood For Love was my #9. One of those films in which the look of the film and the mood of the film complement each other perfectly. The colours in this film are great. As is the melancholy almost-love story. I am pleasantly surprised to see it this high, especially since it wasn't even on the millennium list.

That leaves 2 more from my list still likely to show up for a total of 17.

[Thursday Next]

My guess for the top ten:

1. Fellowship of the Ring
2. There Will Be Blood
3. Spirited Away
4. No Country for Old Men
5. Return of the King
6. Pan's Labyrinth
7. Zodiac
8. The Dark Knight
9. Mulholland Drive
10. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

[Wyldesyde19]

Fro the record, I understand Mr Mobil’s post, and agree, somewhat. With the caveat that it’s not some requirement for anyone here to have to watch every film possible to get a good idea on what said individuals like or don’t like.*
It’s largely why I have done a deep delve into the labyrinth of cinema, so I get more familiar with the various film movements and the various subgenres that exist in specific countries. It isn’t for the sake of being a completionist, mind you, but rather just for the knowledge and enjoyment. But not everyone is expected to live up that standard.
You like Super Hero films? That’s great! You love Giallo? Perfect! Slashers?
Poliziotteschi? Yakuza (both borderless action and actual record version)? Have at it!

But I must draw the line with pink films. One must have standards, after all.

[John Dumbear]

Sorry, still trying to scale Mr. Minio’s wall of text. Impressive and can understand his angle… now I want a sandwich.

Pastrami, correct Mr. Minio?

[dadgumblah]

In the Mood For Love is a film that I haven't seen yet. Again, one of the joys of lists like this. Movies that have slipped by me that I put on "to look for" lists. Memento is one I've been meaning to see for a long time since my movie-fan sister watched it years ago and raved about it. Then again, I've got several DVDs that have come out since then that she bought for me for Christmas or my birthday and I still haven't cracked the plastic wrapping and it's been a few years. Oh dear. Sometimes I get distracted by other...


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#4. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers 15
#5.Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl 63
#8. Unbreakable 62
#10.Million Dollar Baby 57
#15. Shaun of the Dead 20
#18. The Royal Tenenbaums 35
#20. Iron Man 83
#21 Finding Nemo 44
#22. Fantastic Mr. Fox 70
#23. The Descent 80
#25. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang 76

[cricket]

I very much enjoy Memento every time I watch it, but I never think as highly of it in retrospect.

In the Mood for Love didn't do much for me but I've only seen it once.

[Rockatansky]

With most of these aggregated lists, more esoteric picks tend to get weeded out by virtue of the process, but I liken these countdowns to watching a sporting event. It's nice to see your picks do well, and a good commentator (host) like we have here certainly helps. I don't actually watch sports, so please adjust my analogy as required. I assume Raul is the streaker. :D

[Thief]

Mr Minio

One of the main issues I have with your statements is that you assume that everybody's at the same point in their cinephile journey, or on an "even keel" in terms of movie-watching aspirations and goals.

Another main issue is the contradiction of saying you're not interested in the "social aspect" of the forum or the countdown, but then arguing that a list "riddled with uninteresting choices" could "mercifully... be saved by write-ups with details on why they find these films personal". Which makes me wonder if you've been reading the thread because every reveal is followed with people sharing their thoughts, reviews, and opinions.

I see that you list Werckmeister Harmonies as one of your favorites, and yet you didn't come in here when it made the list to share your thoughts, insight, etc. Why did you find this film personal? Why not share alternatives from your personal favorites, "if you liked this, you might like this", so people can discover them as well?

Instead, you're basically arguing about the issues of the list, but not making any of the things you claim would make it "better" or "more interesting". You didn't vote, don't comment, don't offer any insight, or share anything, but rather just come out of the shadows and throw out adjectives like "rote", "insipid", "worst", "oblivious", which instantly make most people scoff at you.

So why not share some of the 2000s films you'd like people to discover, and why?

[Citizen Rules]

This has been a fun countdown list, that's all that's really important.

[ynwtf]

With most of these aggregated lists, more esoteric picks tend to get weeded out by virtue of the process, but I liken these countdowns to watching a sporting event. It's nice to see your picks do well, and a good commentator (host) like we have here certainly helps. I don't actually watch sports, so please adjust my analogy as required. I assume Raul is the streaker. :D


You adjust your OWN analogy, thank you very much. This is a public forum!!

[Rockatansky]

You adjust your OWN analogy, thank you very much. This is a public forum!!


Fine, I will be the streaker.


*takes off pants*

[Wyldesyde19]

Fine, I will be the streaker.


*takes off pants*
Wrong thread, Rock.

[Rockatansky]

Wrong thread, Rock.

I'm gonna point it right at YOU.

[Wyldesyde19]

I'm gonna point it right at YOU.

Ever watch Lust in the Dust?

*grabs scissors*

[Rockatansky]

Ever watch Lust in the Dust?

*grabs scissors*


Fine, fine, I'll put my pants back on.


*leaves them unzipped*


*points at Wyldesyde19*

[Wyldesyde19]

Fine, fine, I'll put my pants back on.


*leaves them unzipped*


*points at Wyldesyde19*

Well, let no one say you’re not afraid to show off your short comings.

*I’d like to thank David Niven for the assist*

[edarsenal]

I have been pitifully vacant from participating in this wonderful Countdown so I won't bore folks with the HUUUGE list of films of catch up and simply go with the ones that made my list since I last posted at #37.

Firstly, I do need to correct one that I had thought wasn't on my list, actually was. Quills DID make my list at #23


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The Incredibles (#8) Watched over and over and over it is in the top ranking of favorite go-to animations for our household.

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Downfall (#22) Caught this near the deadline of the Voting and SO GLAD I finally saw this and how obvious a fit it became.

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Memories of Murder (#13) I have seen a number of Director Bong Joon Ho and they continually engage and amaze me.

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Ratatouille (#3) This ranked the highest of my animation entries because of how endeared it is to my heart. Beautiful, touching, and pretty d#mn funny.

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Oldboy (#24) One of the first South Korean films I encountered in the genesis of my discovery and one that stays with me.

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O Brother, Where Art Thou? (#2) One of my all-time favorites when it comes to the comedic side of the Coen Brothers.

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The Departed (#18) Boston Mob and Police agencies, both with moles, both with treachery and twists preventing them from doing what they intend to.

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Amélie (#1) The silliness, the beauty, the fantastical pursuit of love. . . I remain enamored from the first and every single time I have watched this.

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WALL·E (#11) Another of my animations of countless rewatches and deep love.

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In the Mood for Love (#21) Unrequited love and some of the most beautiful compositions that have ever caused me to sigh.

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Memento (#20) My initiation into Christopher Nolan and you always cherish your first time.



Films Watched 65 out of 90 (72.22%)
1. Amélie (#16)
2. O Brother, Where Art Thou? (#21)
3. Ratatouille (#23)
5. Gladiator (#40)
8. The Incredibles (#36)
9. V for Vendetta (#58)
11. WALL·E (#13)
13. Memories of Murder (#27)
14. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (#76)
17. Mother (#96)
18. The Departed (#19)
20. Memento (#11)
21. In the Mood for Love
22. Downfall (#28)
23. Quills (#67)
24. Oldboy (#22)
25. A Bittersweet Life (One Pointer)


One Pointers: 10 out of 38 (26.31%)

[Rockatansky]

Well, let no one say you’re not afraid to show off your short comings.

*I’d like to thank David Niven for the assist*
Thank you, David.

[Thief]

Trivia

-

In the Mood for Love

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/00/1d/ff/001dffa14ba5f46006d43bbeda53443a.jpg

Did you know that...


Maggie Cheung wears a different cheongsam dress in each scene?
Wong Kar-Wai started working on a story since the 90s and even secured Tony Leung and Cheung's participation before having a clear story?
Alejandro G. Iñárritu and his wife saw the film at Cannes in 2000, and they've shared how moved they were after watching it to the point of "crying inconsolably" and being "speechless" because of it?


https://www.cinepremiere.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Alejandro-Gonz%C3%A1lez-I%C3%B1arrit%C3%BA-UNAM.jpg

[Thief]

Trivia

-

Memento

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/83/bb/53/83bb533b3bb62538aa855d8dd11763b7.jpg

Did you know that...


Brad Pitt, Alec Baldwin, Aaron Eckhart, Charlie Sheen, and Thomas Jane were considered for the role of Lenny?
Guy Pearce improvised most of Leonard's voiceovers?
Lenny's camera is a Polaroid 690?
Lenny using a different handwriting on Natalie's photo was suggested by Guy Pearce?


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[PHOENIX74]

First time both reveals are from my list...

12. In the Mood for Love : For a moment there I thought this wasn't going to show, and I'm mighty glad it did. I watched this for the first time recently, in preparation for this countdown, and it's the only film so far that's made my list via being a new discovery. In the Mood for Love left me feeling so many different things, and brought to the surface what the essence of love is for me personally. I can't remember any other film that has done that in recent times. Visually, it's wonderful to watch and differs from the norm in ways that enhance it's emotional appeal. From the claustrophobic confines of an apartment in Hong Kong to the rain-swept streets, it tells us a love story from a removed perspective and teases our imagination, removing certainty in a way that mirrors how love really feels. I was entranced by this unusual film - it felt like a dream, and I'm really happy that it nearly made the top 10 of the decade. In the Mood for Love was #12 on my list and a new favourite of mine that's up there with the all-time best. Do I get a prize for my #12 being the list's #12?

11. Memento : I was crazy about Memento the first time I saw it, and I guess I still am. For a film told in reverse to have not only such a smooth narrative flow, but also have us watching each scene in eager anticipation just defies all logic. It is still, to this date, the finest film Guy Pearce has ever been in, and features his finest performance. It's longevity has proven, I think, it's deserving status as a classic, and it's still my favourite Christopher Nolan movie. We really get inside the mind of Leonard, a character who simply can't make new memories - leaving him at odds with everyone he meets in his quest to find his wife's killer. At any point in the film, Leonard won't know what has just happened, and with the reverse flow of the film neither do we, meaning that we constantly identify with him. Nolan has many surprises for us up his sleeve in this dark and gritty thriller that I always enjoy watching - and an absolutely fantastic ending. Memento was my #5.

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Films I've seen : 77
Films that have been on my radar : 7
Films I've never even heard of : 6

Films from my list : 14 (+2)

#11 - My #5 - Memento (2000)
#12 - My #12 - In the Mood for Love (2000)
#32 - My #7 - Lost in Translation (2003)
#39 - My #17 - Sideways (2004)
#43 - My #2 - Adaptation (2002)
#49 - My #8 - Dancer in the Dark (2000)
#51 - My #6 - The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007)
#56 - My #20 - In Bruges (2008)
#59 - My #16 - The Secret in Their Eyes (2009)
#66 - My #9 - A Serious Man (2009)
#71 - My #23 - Snatch (2000)
#78 - My #13 - The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (2005)
#84 - My #21 - The Man Who Wasn't There (2001)
One pointer - World's Greatest Dad (2009)
#102 - My #10 - Little Miss Sunshine (2006)
#109 - My #19 - Michael Clayton (2007)

[gbgoodies]

I watched In the Mood for Love for the Foreign Language Countdown, and I liked it so much that I considered it for my list for that countdown, but it didn't make my list for either that countdown or this one.

I watched Memento for this countdown, and it was probably the most interesting movie that I watched for this countdown because of the gimmick. It worked well for the movie. I know that there's a chronological version of the movie also, but I think this movie benefits from the reverse order because it helps the viewer see things from his point of view. It didn't make my list only because it's not the type of movie that I would rewatch, but it probably should be because I think it's the type of movie that would get better with each rewatch.

[MovieMeditation]

In the Mood for Love was one of four movies on my list that made it despite having only watched it once. It was my #21.

It’s not too long ago that I watched it and despite having high expectations it totally lived up to them. The only reason it’s not higher is probably because I didn’t want to put it too high for a first time watch nor above other favorites that I have seen many times. But perhaps in the future it will become a favorite. I definitely really liked it.

As for Memento I like it, but it’s not a favorite from Nolan’s filmography. There are movies of his I enjoy more and perhaps voted for. Who knows…….

[Okay]

My list so far...
1. In Bruges (2008) placed at #56
6. Amores Perros (2000) placed at #81
9. Dancer in the Dark (2000) placed at #49
11. Donnie Darko (2001) placed at #24
12. Punch-Drunk Love (2002) placed at #73
13. Mother (2009) placed at #96
15. Requiem for a Dream (2000) placed at #26
17. The Secret in Their Eyes (2009) placed at #59
18. Caché (2005) placed at #85
22. Almost Famous (2000) placed at #90
23. Let the Right One In (2008) placed at #29
24. Adaptation. (2002) placed at #43

Other than my #21, there's no chance for the rest of the films in my ballot to ever make it. Overall, seen 53/90

My guess for the top ten:
1. There Will Be Blood
2. The Dark Knight
3. Fellowship of the Ring
4. Spirited Away
5. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
6. Pan's Labyrinth
7. Mulholland Drive
8. Return of the King
9. No Country for Old Men
10. Zodiac

[Thief]

Good morning, people. We're walking blind today, no hints, no clues. Any guesses on what will be #10?

[John-Connor]

what will be #10?
Mulholland..

[mrblond]

From the experience I have with polls like this, I somehow feel these four are going to be in top 5, in no particular order:


There Will Be Blood
No Country
Mulholland
one of the LOTRs


So, for #10 I'd say: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

[Holden Pike]

I'm still guessing back-to-back Nolans with Memento at #11 and The Dark Knight at #10.

[Sedai]

TDK makes sense, and I think I heard Thief screaming about it all the way up here in Massachusetts. At some point today, he will force himself to hit post, and then, he will be through his trauma...

[Wooley]

By the way, for those irritated over The Life Aquatic, you can blame me, I had it as my 3rd best film of the decade.

[rauldc14]

I'll go against my own prediction and predict that Spirited Away is the movie today.

[Wooley]

I had The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou as my #12 film. It's my favorite Wes Anderson film. Maybe not by a ton, but definitively.

Second...

The climactic scene with the Jaguar Shark is wonderous and moving in a way I can't explain. It seems particularly strange that it would be so affecting given how simplistic and low-tech the effects are, and how it's viewed on this tiny little screen-within-a-screen, but it is breathtaking. My best guess for making rational sense of this emotional reaction is that it's all in the anticipation, and the tonally perfect choice in music. Whatever it is, I adore it.

The more I think back on Anderson's other films, the more it stands out as not just exceptional in terms of quality, but exceptional in that I can't think of many other moments of emotional climax he chooses to punctuate like this.
Yoda, I agree completely.

[Thief]

Reveal in a few minutes...

[Thief]

388 points, 27 listsThe Dark Knight (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/155-the-dark-knight.html)Director
Christopher Nolan, 2008

Starring
Christian Bale, Heath Ledger, Michael Caine, Gary Oldman

[Thief]

I'm still guessing back-to-back Nolans with Memento at #11 and The Dark Knight at #10.

You, sir, are a master! :up:

TDK makes sense, and I think I heard Thief screaming about it all the way up here in Massachusetts. At some point today, he will force himself to hit post, and then, he will be through his trauma...

:laugh: I wanted to skip to #9 :D

[Thief]

No vote from me, obviously.

No, I tend to joke with my "dislike" of this film, but the truth is that I'm not a huge fan. I saw this in theaters back in the day and remember being blown away by Ledger's performance; a performance that I still think is one of the best of the last 20 years, maybe. But even then, I could acknowledge some serious issues in terms of pacing and narrative. Further rewatches have cemented those issues. But although I have my gripes with some of the setpieces (the whole sonar thing, the execution of the boat scene), my main issue is with the last act and how rushed it is. Both the character of Two-Face and Aaron Eckhart deserved more than a half-baked, rushed closure to his arc. Maybe even the third film for him, but well... It is what it is.


Here we are...

Seen: 74/91


1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6. Memento (#11)
7. Synecdoche, New York (#46)
8.
9. Kill Bill Vol. 1 (#14)
10.
11. Requiem for a Dream (#26)
12.
13. The Prestige (#38)
14.
15.
16.
17. Once (#103)
18.
19.
20.
21. Before Sunset (#42)
22.
23. Mother (#96)
24.
25.

[The Rodent]

TDK was the movie that absolutely smashed the comics countdown by a huge margine.
Made almost every list, and almost every vote it was in everyone's top 3.
Placed it 18th on my list.
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1. Moon (2009) - 48th
.
6. Shaun of the Dead (2004) - 20th
.
8. Sin City (2005) - 47th
9. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) - 15th
.
11. Million Dollar Baby (2004) - 57th
.
13. Cast Away (2000) - 69th
14. WALL·E (2008) - 13th
.
18. The Dark Knight (2008) - 10th
.
20. Unbreakable (2000) - 62nd
21. Gladiator (2000) - 40th
.
22. Watchmen (2009) - 87th
23. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003) - 63rd
.
25. Inglourious Basterds (2009) - 18th

[Miss Vicky]

The Dark Knight was never even in consideration for my ballot despite having initially loved it. Here’s what I wrote the last time I saw it:

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The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1)

Date Watched: 08/31/19
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: I'm excited for Joker
Rewatch: Yes.

The first time I watched this movie, I loved it. I loved it the second time, too. And the third, and the fourth. But somewhere along the line that stopped. Somewhere along the line, the bat voice began to bug me, the speeches about heroism had me rolling my eyes, and all the film's flash and "coolness" had me checking my watch. Somewhere along the line, I realized that it wasn't the movie I loved - it was really only Heath Ledger's performance.

Tonight's viewing served only to affirm that realization. Ledger's Joker was amazing (though I suspect I'm going to love Joaquin Phoenix's Joker more, but I'm just a little biased), but the film itself is really only a slightly above average experience for me.

3.5-

Seen: 57/91

[seanc]

I still really enjoy Dark Knight but it wasn’t in contention for my list. Best superhero movie ever made though.

[Thief]

With this film, Christopher Nolan becomes the first director so far to get four films in the countdown. He placed:



2008: The Dark Knight (#10)
2000: Memento (#11)
2006: The Prestige (#38)
2005: Batman Begins (#60)


If somehow he were to place 2002's Insomnia, he would go 5/5 and 100% for the decade. Do you believe in miracles? :shifty:

[The Rodent]

Aha... found the post with the top entries on the Comics List...

As you'll see it smashed it...

04

The Avengers

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“You Really Have Got A Lid On It, Haven't You? What's Your Secret? Mellow Jazz? Bongo Drums? Huge Bag Of Weed?”

2012

Points - 441

Voters - 27/35

Top 10 - 17/27

#1 - 3/27




03

Sin City

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“I Love Hitmen. No Matter What You Do To Them, You Don’t Feel Bad”

2005

Points - 483

Voters - 30/35

Top 10 - 17/30

#1 - 3/30




02

Batman Begins

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“Why Do We Fall, Sir? So We Can Learn To Pick Ourselves Up”

2005

Points - 487

Voters - 30/35

Top 10 - 17/30

#1 - 1/30




01

The Dark Knight

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“I Believe Whatever Doesn’t Kill You, Simply Makes You… Stranger”

2008

Points - 626

Voters - 32/35

Top 10 - 23/32

#1 - 11/32

[CosmicRunaway]

The Dark Knight is by far my favourite of the Nolan Batman films, however that's not saying much because I really dislike the other two entries in the series.

I hadn't planned to see it in theatres (or at all, really, after Batman Begins) but a group of friends all had tickets to the midnight screening, and one of them couldn't make it at the last minute. They asked if I wanted to take their ticket at no charge. Since I didn't have to pay, I said sure. It actually turned out to be a really enjoyable experience.

I had never been to a midnight screening before, and the theatre was absolutely packed with people who were all super excited to see the film. The energy was pretty contagious, especially with everyone reacting to the big moments on screen. I rewatched it a couple years later though, and just thought it was okay, so it didn't make my list.

Seen: 58/91

My List:
02. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) - #15
05. The Lives of Others (2006) - #41
06. Millennium Actress (2001) - DNP
08. Mother (2009) - #96
09. Shaun of the Dead (2004) - #20
10. Iron Man (2008) - #83
11. Paprika (2006) - #64
12. Memories of Murder (2003) - #27
16. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (2005) - #76
17. Hot Fuzz (2007) - #30
20. Moon (2009) - #48
25. Bon Cop, Bad Cop (2006) - 1-pointer

[ueno_station54]

Dark Knight did nothing for me when it came out and i've never been interested in revisiting it.

[Holden Pike]

84571

The Dark Knight falls to #10 from #3 on the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium List. It was also #46 on the original MoFo Top 100, completely missed the 2020 reboot of that list, and was top of the tops #1 on the list of MoFo Top 50 Comic Book Movies. It lands exactly fifty spots higher than Batman Begins. Will the third installment make the 2010-2019 list? Stay tuned. Same Bat Time. Same Bat MoFo.

[Sedai]

Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight was on my list at #15. What sets this one apart for me, aside from the obvious stuff like Ledger's performance, is that superhero stuff aside, it is still an excellent crime thriller. The cast is mostly fantastic, the score excellent, and the themes are strong. If I had to complain about something, it's the casting of Maggie Gyllenhaal as Rachel - Nolan never got this character right.

2008 had both DC and Marvel serving up samples of what was to come in future years, with an absolute onslaught of comic book films - for better or for worse.

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[ScarletLion]

10. The Dark Knight (388 points)

Hmmm, The Dark Knight isn't a poor film. It's quite good, with a real menacing tone to the atmosphere, good performances and a really good score. But it's just good. It's a solid 7/10 good film. There is simply nothing remarkable about it whatsoever. So given all the lists it seems to do well in............ it really has to be considered as:

THE most overrated film of all time.

It has also dated a little with some of the scenes feeling a tad corny. This appeared on Twitter last week and made me laugh:

https://twitter.com/kirawontmiss/status/1479937214654074880

So no, it didn't get anywhere near my top 25.

[Chypmunk]

Rewatched The Dark Knight as part of my prep for this and it was in with a shout of making my personal ballot but I'd be lying if I said it was a hard cut to make.

Seen: 63/91 (Own: 44/91)

1. WALL·E (2008) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0910970/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#13]
3. Madeo [Mother] (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216496/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#96]
5. Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain [Amélie] (2001) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0211915/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#16]
6. Moon (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182345/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#48]
8. Der Untergang [Downfall] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#28]
10. Fa yeung nin wah [In The Mood For Love] (2000) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118694/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#12]
11. Oldeuboi [Oldboy] (2003) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364569/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3) [#22]
12. The Departed (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407887/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#19]
15. Låt den rätte komma in [Let The Right One In] (2008) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1139797/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#29]
16. The Descent (2005) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#80]
25. The Pool (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0911024/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_6) [1-ptr]



Faildictions (millennial edition v1.01):
26. Superbad (2007)
25. Memento (2000) [11]
24. Road To Perdition (2002)
23. The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers (2002) [15]
22. Shrek (2001)
21. Requiem For A Dream (2000) [26]
20. Oldboy (2003) [22]
19. Inglourious Basterds (2009) [18]
18. Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind (2004)
17. City Of God (2002) [25]
16. In The Mood For Love (2000) [12]
15. O Brother Where Art Thou? (2000) [21]
14. Children Of Men (2006) [17]
13. Amélie (2001) [16]
12. Zodiac (2007)
11. WALL·E (2008) [13]
10. The Departed (2006) [19]
9. The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring (2001)
8. Shaun Of The Dead (2004) [20]
7. Mulholland Drive (2001)
6. Pan's Labyrinth (2006)
5. There Will Be Blood (2007)
4. The Dark Knight (2008) [10]
3. Spirited Away (2001)
2. The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King (2003)
1. No Country For Old Men (2007)

Nineteen down, seven to go...

[John-Connor]

"Menacing, mercurial, droll and diabolical, Heath Ledger as the Joker in the Dark Knight kept us all on edge, anxious to see what act of appalling mischief he might commit next.
With this bravura performance as well as with a wide range of other roles to which he put his unique signature, Heath Ledger has left us an original and enduring legacy."

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[Allaby]

The Dark Knight was number 21 on my list. It’s a fantastic, thrilling and smart film that elevates superhero movies.

[Deschain]

I’m a massive Batman fan and TDK is one of the better live action ones but alas, no room on my list.

[Tugg]

The Dark Knight was #5 on my ballot. Re-watching this for the countdown I was blown away by how much I enjoyed it and it overtook some of my other favourite movies unexpectedly.

[Citizen Rules]

I've never seen The Dark Knight. That's true.

[kgaard]

The Dark Knight as a film is kind of a mess and overstuffed. I also think Christopher Nolan is one of the worst action directors around. I still put it on my list at #24 because Heath Ledger's performance is so good it deserves to be recognized. Maybe this is just sentimental, but I'll accept that.

[Iroquois]

I saw The Dark Knight on opening day and came home to write an effusive 4.5 review for this very website. I last watched it in full for my 2015 "One Movie A Day" review thread and have felt very little cause to revisit it since then. Maybe I'll catch that opening heist sequence while I'm flicking channels on TV and watch the whole thing from start to finish (still a very tautly-rendered cold open regardless of its sillier aspects like the getaway vehicle being a school bus that is able to crash through a bank wall and then blend in with a line of other seemingly ordinary school buses), but I never feel like sticking around for the remaining two-and-a-half hours.

[MovieFan1988]

Have seen so far: 31 - The Dark Knight - Great batman film, the best one I think
Have not seen so far: 65

My Ballots So Far

#9 - Spider Man 2 (2004)
#15 - The Dark Knight (2008)
#20 - Hot Fuzz (2007)
One Pointer - #25 - Anger Management (2003)

[John W Constantine]

It's pretty good, not my favorite Nolan, was quite a theater experience when I first watched it in the summer of 2008. But another movie with Joker got a high spot on my list.

[mark f]

The Dark Knight is my #9.

I felt that the Joker was actually one of the more honest characters in the movie. Even if he changed the story of his origin depending exactly on who he was talking to, and he does deliver one baldfaced lie, it appears to all be within the realm of his believing in having fun by playing games. Batman seems to force himself to have to believe in what he stands for, but the Joker has no problem whatsoever in letting you know that he believes in Anarchy and the vileness of human nature, but it still has to be demonstrated with a maximum amount of "fun". This Joker is definitely one of the scarier characters I've ever seen. I don't know if you think that escalating one-note symphony which played during the tenser moments of the film was a cheat or super-effective, but I always took it to be what the Joker hears inside his mind when things are going his way.

Many of the characters in the film are duplicitous, but the Joker seems to stay true to his beliefs. He's obviously very smart and possesses some form of mind control to be able to pull off all the things he does with no visible means of support. I mean, he must have some financial backing, but it isn't anything comparable to Bruce Wayne's. Plus, the Joker commits a heinous crime in the film: he burns money! :cool: (I'm only discussing what's seen in this film, not the comic books.)

In some ways the Joker and Harvey Dent both seem interested in playing games of chance, whether involving playing cards or coin flips. The Joker probably enjoys doing magic tricks more than Harvey, but he certainly did a good one when he spoke to Harvey Dent (offscreen) in the hospital room.

My List

1. The Incredibles
5. Ratatouille
7. Downfall
8. Up
9. The Dark Knight
10. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
11. Everything Will Be OK
12. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
15. WALL·E
16. Children of Men
19. The Pianist
21. Pride & Prejudice

[John W Constantine]

2002's Insomnia, he would go 5/5 and 100% for the decade. Do you believe in miracles? :shifty:


Ah yes, his redheaded stepchild

[Thief]

Ah yes, his redheaded stepchild

And yet, I would put it above The Dark Knight in my Nolan ranking.

[KeyserCorleone]

The Dark Knight severs as a perfect example that a dark and gritty superhero movie doesn't have to build itself on CGI, that the superhero fanbase occasionally wants something deeper and more philosophical. Ledger's Joker is currently my favorite Joker. This was my number 9. I still prefer Memento. I knew the two would be pretty close on this list.



Sent-In Ballot:

#2. Oldboy (22)
#3. Sin City (47)
#5. Requiem for a Dream (26)
#6. Memento (11)
#7. Yi Yi (49)
#8. The Departed (19)
#9. The Dark Knight (10)

#10. Casino Royale (37)
#13. Million Dollar Baby (57)
#15. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (53)
#16. Let the Right One In (29)
#20. Iron Man (83)
#21. Inglourious Basterds (18)
#22. Pirates of the Caribbean (63)
#25. Hot Fuzz (30)

Post-Ballot:

#2. Oldboy (22)
#3. Sin City (47)
#5. Requiem for a Dream (26)
#6. Memento (11)
#7. Yi Yi (49)
#8. The Departed (19)
#9. The Dark Knight (10)
#10. Casino Royale (37)
#12. Snatch (71)
#14. Million Dollar Baby (57)
#16. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (53)
#17. Let the Right One In (29)
#18. Slumdog Millionaire (not placed but it made my new 25)
#19. Monsters, Inc. (74)
#22. Iron Man (83)
#23. Fantastic Mr. Fox (70)
#24. Inglourious Basterds (18)
#25. Pirates of the Caribbean (63)

Seen 53/91

[Thief]

Critics

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Critics thoughts on our #10, The Dark Knight...

https://i.imgur.com/geV90ZM.png

It currently has a 94% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 9.0/10 score on IMDb (with 2,500,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★★ and said:

"Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight is a haunted film that leaps beyond its origins and becomes an engrossing tragedy. It creates characters we come to care about. That’s because of the performances, because of the direction, because of the writing, and because of the superlative technical quality of the entire production. This film, and to a lesser degree Iron Man, redefine the possibilities of the “comic-book movie.”"

Meanwhile Jonathan Romney, of Independent on Sunday, said:

"This is an impressive film in many ways, and Nolan directs with real confidence, yet the overall result feels cumbersome."

As for our MoFo reviewers, Diehl40 said:

"I am of the opinion that the one element that caused this movie to be the gem in this series is the acting of Heath Ledger... As it is he left us with a great performance as the Joker. I remember the TV series when I was young and the character of the Joker in the later comic books and this movie takes the madness of the Joker to a whole new level. Instead of a crackpot in a purple suit you have a nihilist who is totally unhinged."

And grampaglasses said:

"This movie is like watching two movies mashed together. On one hand, you have the outstanding performance of Heath Ledger in his final role as the Joker, that is hands down the best supervillain portrayal to ever make the silver screen. There's also Aaron Eckhart as Harvey Dent, and he was cast perfectly as well. But then we have Christian Bale as Batman. I like Christian Bale as much as the next guy, but the Batman he plays is a complete joke."

[John Dumbear]

I've never seen The Dark Knight. That's true.

Nor do I ever care to. My loss:rolleyes:

[SpelingError]

Darn, Memento got fairly close to beating The Dark Knight :(

Regardless, I don't consider [I]The Dark Knight[/I} to be a bad film by any means. It's actually quite good. Ledger's performance is excellent, the film maintains a menacing and dark tone throughout, the soundtrack is solid, and several scenes, like the opening heist, are terrific. Granted, the last act is really rushed in terms of Two-Face's character arc, but aside from that, it's a pretty good film. Given how popular it is though, it's definitely one of the most overrated films of all time.

[Thief]

Trailer

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXeTwQWrcwY

[Rockatansky]

Memento got my Nolan vote, but The Dark Knight rules. One of the few superhero movies I'd call an actual good movie.

[crumbsroom]

THE DARK KNIGHT: I love the opening bank robbery scene. It's an absolutely perfect beginning to bring us back to this grim superhero world Nolan created in Begins. Also, all the Heath Ledger hyperbole's are well earned. One of the most captivating performances of recent years. Just brilliantly imagined menace. But I think the rest of the film is a sloppy pile. What seemed deliberately and brilliantly unformed and unresolved in the story arc of Begins, in Dark Knight, which requires a much firmer narrative hand as it is juggling all sorts of narrative threads and thematic concerns, this unformed, unresolvedness becomes a real Albatross. While I do still like the movie (for the most part) regardless of this, I don't get the cries of 'perfection' or 'superhero masterpiece' here. I think it is mostly a really interesting and ambitious failure. And mostly because I think Nolan is a great conceptualist, but not so great a director or even story teller. An easy 3/5 from me and never remotely in consideration for my list.

[Thief]

THE DARK KNIGHT: I love the opening bank robbery scene. It's an absolutely perfect beginning to bring us back to this grim superhero world Nolan created in Begins. Also, all the Heath Ledger hyperbole's are well earned. One of the most captivating performances of recent years. Just brilliantly imagined menace. But I think the rest of the film is a sloppy pile. What seemed deliberately and brilliantly unformed and unresolved in the story arc of Begins, in Dark Knight, which requires a much firmer narrative hand as it is juggling all sorts of narrative threads and thematic concerns, this unformed, unresolvedness becomes a real Albatross. While I do still like the movie (for the most part) regardless of this, I don't get the cries of 'perfection' or 'superhero masterpiece' here. I think it is mostly a really interesting and ambitious failure. And mostly because I think Nolan is a great conceptualist, but not so great a director or even story teller. An easy 3/5 from me and never remotely in consideration for my list.

Yep. Pretty much agree, down to the rating.

[gandalf26]

I think Batman Begins is the slightly better movie so I voted for that and not TDK, however it is a great film.

I think the genius of it is that for 45 minutes it's your regular predictable comic/superhero affair, then from about the moment when the Judge picks up a joker card in her notes it's like the whole thing get's turned upside down and we really see something unlike anything we've ever watched.

13/14 years later and it's not held in as high esteem as it once was but for many it's still the pinnacle of comic book movies.

I still find it very jarring that Maggie Gyllenhaal took over form Katie Holmes as "Rachel Dawes", not that Maggie did a bad job but it spoils the impact of her death and continuation from Begins a little.

[Harry Lime]

In the Mood for Love was #7 on my list. I like the two Nolan films also. 10 years ago Memento would have probably made my 25.

3. Yi Yi (2000)
4. Werckmeister Harmonies (2000)
5. City of God (2002)
6. Caché (2005)
7. In the Mood for Love (2000)
8. WALL·E (2008)
9. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (2005)
17. Shaun of the Dead (2004)
22. The Aviator (2004)
25. Atanarjuat: The Fast Runner (2001)

Also I had a bit of a post ready in reply to a certain "listanthrope" but I decided not to bother since, as you all know, he didn't even submit a list.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdaxnbE1OdM

[Sedai]

I dug my copy of In the Mood for Love out last night - it's up next for a 2000s re-watch.

[TheUsualSuspect]

19. The Departed (2006)

The film that earned Scorsese his Oscar. People like to argue that it was an overdue career win more than awarding the film, but The Departed is a great remake and I'd still put it in the top portion of his filmography. I never saw the original, but the tension, skillful direction and dedicated performances in the film really elevate beyond the typical gangster flick.

Without a doubt, one of Nicholson's best performances. He's clearly having fun with the role. Just watch the scene when he pretends he's a rat and sniffs around DiCaprio. Damon does an adequate job, but it's obvious that he is overshadowed by some heavy hitters. Even Mark Wahlberg turns in a memorable performance, more so for his comedic timing than anything, but I quote him from this movie more than anyone. "Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe f**k yourself."


23. Inglourious Basterds (2009)

Tarantino should have won his second writing Oscar for this movie instead of Django and I'd point to the opening sequences as proof alone to that. It's a perfect opening. So well written, acted, staged and presented. The rest of the film doesn't match it, but is still really good.

This is the film that introduced the world to Christoph Waltz, who would go onto win an Oscar for his sinister role of the Jew Hunter. A mesmerizing and terrifying villain in a movie that features Hitler for crying out loud.

I remember the theatre collectively holding their breath during the scene when he orders milk with his desert in front of Shosanna.

Yes, Tarantino likes to think of this as his masterpiece and arrogantly says so at the end, but hey...he might be right.

[TheUsualSuspect]

4. Amélie (2001)

Such a fantastically whimsical film that I fell in love with on my first viewing and has held up on repeated viewings.

The colours of the film, the flow of the camera, the quirky characters. This film feels magical and 100% cracked my top 5.




I so wish Children of Men made my list. Really adore that film and I see it didn't really need my help placing high. In fact, I had to double check to see if I did vote for it or not. Could easily have been on my list.

[TheUsualSuspect]

17. WALL·E (2008)

Wall-E and Up were back to back for me. This film says so much in the first half without uttering a word. It's silent film and musical influences are clearly evident and it has a beautiful scene where they are flying/dancing out in space.

Pure joy when watching this movie. Even the more traditional story elements that enter into the second half make me smile. Well deserved spot.

8. Memento (2000)

I love this movie. Love the craft and care that went into telling this story. The structure fits perfectly with the character and how it's being told. This put Nolan on the map and I would absolutely love to see him revisit smaller budget films and ideas such as this one.

[edarsenal]

Matching up at #10 on my list as well,

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The Dark Knight serves up, as we all agree, an extraordinary Swan Song for Heath Ledger, creating a truly memorable rendition of Batman's greatest nemesis, The Joker.
I've felt the chaos of the remaining film was an ideal backdrop for this "unstoppable force meets an immovable object." where The Joker could thrive, and The Batman tried to contain the Order at the cost of himself.

Like many comic fans, Batman rises above, and while I am on the fence with Bale's rendition, it does fit rather nicely in Nolan's scheme of things. Along with the solid cast, this is a large-scale Action/Comic Book extravaganza that, not once, has ever disappointed me.


Films Watched 66 out of 91 (72.52%)
1. Amélie (#16)
2. O Brother, Where Art Thou? (#21)
3. Ratatouille (#23)
4.
5. Gladiator (#40)
6.
7.
8. The Incredibles (#36)
9. V for Vendetta (#58)
10. The Dark Knight (#10)
11. WALL·E (#13)
12.
13. Memories of Murder (#27)
14. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (#76)
15.
16.
17. Mother (#96)
18. The Departed (#19)
19.
20. Memento (#11)
21. In the Mood for Love
22. Downfall (#28)
23. Quills (#67)
24. Oldboy (#22)
25. A Bittersweet Life (One Pointer)


One Pointers: 10 out of 38 (26.31%)

[TheUsualSuspect]

2. The Dark Knight (2008)

I feel like this is the film that defined this decade. Really loved it when I saw it and still do now. It's the best Batman movie and arguably the best comic book film.


2. The Dark Knight (2008)
4. Amélie (2001)
5. The Royal Tenenbaums (2001)
6. The Pianist (2002)
8. Memento (2000)
10. City of God (2002)
13. Lost in Translation (2003)
14. Sin City (2005)
15. Hot Fuzz (2007)
16. Up (2009)
17. WALL·E (2008)
18. Requiem for a Dream (2000)
19. The Departed (2006)
20. Battle Royale (2000)
22. Oldboy (2003)
23. Inglourious Basterds (2009)
25. American Psycho (2000)


I feel comfortable revealing my #24 as it has zero chance of making it.

24. Kung Fu Hustle (2004)

Hilarious, insane and action filled. Loved every minutes of it.

I've got 7 films remaining, with 9 spots to go.

[edarsenal]

2. The Dark Knight (2008)

I feel like this is the film that defined this decade. Really loved it when I saw it and still do now. It's the best Batman movie and arguably the best comic book film.


2. The Dark Knight (2008)
4. Amélie (2001)
5. The Royal Tenenbaums (2001)
6. The Pianist (2002)
8. Memento (2000)
10. City of God (2002)
13. Lost in Translation (2003)
14. Sin City (2005)
15. Hot Fuzz (2007)
16. Up (2009)
17. WALL·E (2008)
18. Requiem for a Dream (2000)
19. The Departed (2006)
20. Battle Royale (2000)
22. Oldboy (2003)
23. Inglourious Basterds (2009)
25. American Psycho (2000)


I feel comfortable revealing my #24 as it has zero chance of making it.

24. Kung Fu Hustle (2004)

Hilarious, insane and action filled. Loved every minutes of it.

I've got 7 films remaining, with 9 spots to go.
Made my list as well and thoroughly agree!!

[Rockatansky]

THE DARK KNIGHT: I love the opening bank robbery scene. It's an absolutely perfect beginning to bring us back to this grim superhero world Nolan created in Begins. Also, all the Heath Ledger hyperbole's are well earned. One of the most captivating performances of recent years. Just brilliantly imagined menace. But I think the rest of the film is a sloppy pile. What seemed deliberately and brilliantly unformed and unresolved in the story arc of Begins, in Dark Knight, which requires a much firmer narrative hand as it is juggling all sorts of narrative threads and thematic concerns, this unformed, unresolvedness becomes a real Albatross. While I do still like the movie (for the most part) regardless of this, I don't get the cries of 'perfection' or 'superhero masterpiece' here. I think it is mostly a really interesting and ambitious failure. And mostly because I think Nolan is a great conceptualist, but not so great a director or even story teller. An easy 3/5 from me and never remotely in consideration for my list.
I appreciate the criticisms around Nolan's sloppiness (I think he's definitely improved on a technical level with his last few), but at the same time, I can't help but be endeared by how earnest and clumsy this movie can be. He brings actual actual ideas about the subject matter and tries to explore them. In a time when the superhero genre has all but extinguished any sense of spontaneity, his movies feel alive and like the work of an actual person. (The cast helps greatly.) I also respect that he seems deeply committed to showing cool shit onscreen, now matter how slapdash it might be. There's an intangible cinematic quality to his set pieces, that for me makes irrelevant any technical sloppiness or flaws that might be evident upon closer inspection. He's the ultimate dumb guy filmmaker, and I mean that entirely as a compliment.

[donniedarko]

My List
1. The Pianist (2002)
2. Donnie Darko (2001)
6. Oldboy (2003)
8. Gran Torino (2008). (#108)
11. Caché (2005)
12. Ratatouille (2007)
14. Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003)
15. Downfall (2004)
16. Dancer in the Dark (2000)
17. A Serious Man (2009)
18. Requiem for a Dream (2000)
21. Battle Royale (2000)
22. City of God (2002)
24. The Dark Knight (2008)
25. Bellamy (2009. (1 pointer)

[MovieMeditation]

I used to see The Dark Knight as one of the best superhero films ever made and also a generally great film. I used to rewatch it a lot and gave it top marks…

But recently it’s not worked as well for me. I still think there’s a lot about it that’s great, but the narrative is not that strong and while it’s ambitious and interesting it’s not one hundred percent a success. It’s problematic on several levels but I’ll probably still watch it from time to time.

So yeah, this Nolan didn’t make my list either. But its reputation is clear and obvious and it was an important film of the 2000s.

[Kaplan]

I saw The Dark Knight numerous times on the big screen, even on IMAX, and I'm a total sucker for its combination of super hero fantasy and gritty, violent crime thriller. It's also likely that Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker makes up a huge reason for this film's appeal, but that's okay. I had it pretty high up on my list, because if I'm being honest, it is one of my very favorite films of the decade.

My List:
3. Synecdoche, New York (#46)
4. Inglourious Basterds (#18)
5. The Dark Knight (#10)
6. Let the Right One In (#29)
8. Sin City (#47)
13. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (#53)
14. The Lives of Others (#41)
16. The Royal Tenenbaums (#35)
17. Memento (#11)
18. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (#86)
19. The Incredibles (#36)
20. Lost in Translation (#32)
22. The Man Who Wasn’t There (#84)
24. Moon (#48)

[Captain Spaulding]

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Wall-E was my #6. Nothing will ever top my sentimental attachment to Toy Story, but if asked to name the greatest animated film of all-time, Wall-E is the answer. (The leap in technology between those two films, despite only a 13-year-difference, is staggering.) Pixar put a lot of faith in the ever-dwindling attention span of kids and adults, going 40-plus minutes with barely any dialogue, instead relying on the rhythms of silent cinema to maintain interest -- the ghost of Chaplin resurrected in a rusted, roving metal box with binoculars for eyes. It's a difficult feat in modern times, but words aren't needed to make audiences laugh or fall in love if the visual storytelling is strong enough, and Wall-E flexes Schwarzenegger biceps in that regard. I care more about these two robots than 99% of human characters in other films. Their romance is more charming than 99% of other romances as well. The oft-criticized shift toward satire in the second half is more faceted than credited. Heavy-handed, sure, but subtlety is overrated, and I commend the effort to drill environmentally-friendly, anti-consumerist messages into the technologically-raddled brains of children. As every grandparent screams, "Stop staring at that screen and go outside!" For a heart-warming, crowd-pleasing family film, the glimpse of humanity's future is shockingly grim. Gelatinous blobs of laziness and wastefulness, ignorant of their ruinous past, no agency of their own, oblivious of their physical surroundings, their entire existence contained in a screen inches from their face. That's not the future. That's the present.

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Before Sunset was my #10. The best entry in the best trilogy, and one of the most romantic movies ever made. I find some of the dialogue in Sunrise too smugly written in a faux philosophical fashion, whereas the writing in Sunset feels completely natural, the characters more believable, the chemistry between Hawke and Delpy even stronger than before thanks to the real-life friendship they had forged. The characters have experienced enough in life to realize how annoyingly idealistic and hopelessly naive they were nine years ago. Their emotions now carry more weight. They've already missed out on so much time together and the hourglass is draining yet again (and in real-time, no less), as Jesse has a flight to catch, fueling that fleeting feeling -- the sense of desperation escalating as we yearn for these two kindred spirits to finally come together and stay together. "Baby, you're gonna miss that plane." The most believable on-screen romance.

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Inglourious Basterds was my #14. To save time, I'll just copy/paste an old write-up with a few tweaks:
Flawed, incohesive, frustrating, yet also intermittently brilliant. I've seen several members say that they would've preferred if QT had turned the story into a miniseries rather than condensing the six-hour script into one feature. IB already feels like two different films with contrasting tones and goals awkwardly mashed together, so I would've preferred if he had split them into companion pieces similar to Eastwood's Flags of Our Fathers and Letters From Iwo Jima, one focusing on the Basterds, the other on Shosanna. The most entertaining scenes involve the Basterds, with Pitt's mugging and ridiculous accent and the gleeful violence and humor that are QT trademarks. However, those scenes basically amount to Tarantino playing in the kitchen with The Dirty Dozen. I find the sections with Shosanna most compelling, and they demonstrate a level of maturity and sophistication QT has rarely shown. Despite my criticisms, I still adore the film. Waltz was perfect casting. Much like Samuel L. Jackson, Waltz accentuates the poetry in QT's dialogue. Multiple scenes are laced with sphincter-clenching suspense, with the brilliant opening a prime example. To me, the film is ultimately about the power of cinema. QT rewrites history, provides everyone violent catharsis by pumping lead into one of the most evil individuals to ever walk the earth, so it makes sense that so many scenes -- the climax, in particular -- revolve around a movie theater.

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Spider-Man 2 was my #16. For me it stands alongside Logan and Batman (1989) on the superhero podium. It's been over a decade since I last watched it, so I can't go into many details. I'm sure the FX are showing their pixels by now, and nostalgia probably helps me overlook some of its flaws (e.g. Franco's limp performance). Superhero films weren't particularly common back then, and the few we got mostly sucked. Spider-Man 2 elevated the comic-book blockbuster to new heights. I've enjoyed several MCU movies, but most of them are plagued by focus-group sterility and corporate formula, where it feels as if the true director isn't the person behind the camera, but rather some suit-and-tie at a mahogany desk. Not the case with Spider-Man 2, where Raimi maintains his voice and sincerity despite softening it for mass consumption (the hospital scene certainly shows Raimi's horror roots), and every emotional beat feels earned. I can't think of another superhero film that possess a more sympathetic villain. The runaway train sequence is one of the most invigorating moments in any blockbuster. Tobey Maguire will always be my Peter Parker no matter how many others play the part.

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Shaun of the Dead was my #17. Nimbly walks the tonal tightrope while juggling severed limbs with expert precision. Most horror-comedies fail to successfully balance the disparate genres, but Shaun is consistently hilarious without undermining the horror, establishing genuine stakes and suspense alongside well-earned pathos. Edgar Wright parodies Romero with love and respect, teleporting zombie-loving geeks like myself from the couch to the apocalypse with aplomb. So many clever gags and Easter eggs served with a side of brains and glistening intestines. Despite dozens of imitators, Shaun holds up nearly 20 years later. My favorite horror-comedy.

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The Prestige was my #21. Fond memories of catching this in the theater before Nolan was a household name. My friends and I went into this movie mostly blind. We just knew that it starred Wolverine and the new Batman, and had something to do with magic. The intricate plot had us mesmerized and I particularly admired the script's moral complexity. No heroes, no villains. Just two magicians obsessed with one-upmanship; a tragedy of hubris as everyone in their milieu suffers as a result of their rivalry. It was unclear to me on that first viewing which character would triumph, which led to an unusually high degree of unpredictability beyond the clever misdirection that Nolan utilized so effectively. Repeat viewings have brought diminishing returns, which is often the case for me with densely-plotted movies that rely heavily on the element of surprise, but I still consider this a great movie and the apex of Nolan's oeuvre.

My List So Far:
#1) The Devil's Rejects
#2) Kill Bill Vol. II
#3) Kill Bill Vol. I
#5) 28 Days Later
#6) Wall-E
#7) Requiem for a Dream
#9) The Wrestler
#10) Before Sunset
#14) Inglourious Basterds
#16) Spider-Man 2
#17) Shaun of the Dead
#21) The Prestige

Seen: 82/91

[ApexPredator]

Haven't Seen: In the Mood for Love.

Seen, Didn't Make the List: The Dark Knight. It was probably the best of the Nolan Batman trilogy. How could it not be when you have Heath Ledger's memorable take as the Joker? The film allows us to wrestle with how much is too much when it comes to fighting crime.
Still, they rushed the reveal of Harvey Dent and the other climax felt kind of weak. It's solid, but not enough to make my list.

Made the List: Memento. It was my number 5. You are placed in the middle of the puzzle and all you have to go on is what Leonard (Guy Pearce) is telling you. But as the film goes on, you have to start wondering whether you believe everything he's telling you. His memory is kind of bad so he writes notes on his skin and takes pictures to serve as a reminder. But can he trust everything others tell him? Or are they trying to twist the truth for their own reasons? The result makes for fascinating cinema.

My List:
1. City of God
4. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
5. Memento
6. Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl
8. Up
9. Million Dollar Baby
11. Spider-Man 2
13. Brokeback Mountain
14. Finding Nemo
15. Requiem for a Dream
19. Amelie
20. Kill Bill Volume I
21. Chicago (Just Missed)
22. The Wrestler
25. Gladiator

Honorable Mentions:
Remember the Titans
Unbreakable
Shaun of the Dead

[Sedai]

He's the ultimate dumb guy filmmaker, and I mean that entirely as a compliment.

Well sign me tf up! :D ;)

[pahaK]

Oh boy, you can count me among The Dark Knight haters, I guess. Back in the day, it took me two attempts to even finish the movie. I don't get why people love this so, and it would be my #1 on the list of the most overrated films of all time. To me, it's garbage, just like half of my list is to most of you :D

Seen: 48/91

My Ballot:
1. Let the Right One In (2008) [#29]
5. Watchmen (2009) [#87]
6. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) [#15]
8. The Descent (2005) [#80]
13. The Children (2008) [DNP]
18. Battle Royale (2000) [#77]
19. Chocolate (2008) [DNP]
22. Noroi (2005) [DNP]
25. Harry Brown (2009) [1-pointer]

[ynwtf]

The Watchmen was supposed to be in my top 10. I may revise my list to add The Dark Knight, just so that I can replace it with The Watchmen. Then maybe send the update over to Thief a few times a week until the next countdown starts. Dunno.

The Dark Knight would probably score much higher for me without the Two-Face distraction and re-cast of Rachel. I'm just not a Maggie Gyllenhaal fan. There is some really great stuff happening in this movie though! Ledger's Joker is just perfect. As noted earlier, the opening sequence is tight and is right on the edge of plausibility, given the superhero reality in which this movie exists. You know, that space just before the plummet off a cliff red zone that The Dark Knight Rises so proudly leapt past with its ludicrous opening (even for a superhero movie). Anyway. I'm not writing much other than to waste some time at the office. I could fast-forward through to all of Ledger's scenes and be just as happy, if not more so, than watching the entire movie again.

*EDIT*
All said, props to bringing the dirt and ugly back to Batman.

[cricket]

I've seen the trilogy once and thought all 3 were very good, but The Dark Knight was my least favorite.

[Raven73]

I'm surprised that more people like Kill Bill Vol. 1 more than Vol. 2... I thought The Bride defeating the Crazy 88 all together was a bit much.

[John Dumbear]

Oh boy, you can count me among The Dark Knight haters, I guess.


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[mrblond]

The Dark Knight - saw it about five years ago.

Batman Begins was artistically and story telling acceptable as well as entertaining watchable with good screenplay. The following The Dark Knight was obviously commissioned by the investor's office that's why quite mediocre screenplay and subsequently very low level and not very pleasant for watch. Even collossi of cinema like Michael Caine and Gary Oldman, specially commissioned to save the production couldn't save it. Just stick to Batman Begins and skip the other parts, there are so many better things to do...

[Steve Freeling]

Ironically, for how much I liked Batman Begins, I never saw all of The Dark Knight. I got the Blu-ray from Goodwill along with the Inception Blu-ray back in 2019 but still never got around to watching it.

[rauldc14]

The Dark Knight was my 21. Nolan's second best for me.

[Thief]

Awards

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Now to the awards received by The Dark Knight...



Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor (Heath Ledger)
Academy Award for Best Sound Editing (Richard King)
BAFTA Award for Best Supporting Actor (Ledger)
SAG Award for Best Supporting Performance (Ledger)
SAG Award for Best Stunt Ensemble
Saturn Award for Best Action/Adventure/Thriller Film
Saturn Award for Best Supporting Actor (Ledger)
Saturn Award for Best Writing (Christopher & Jonathan Nolan)
Saturn Award for Best Music (James Newton Howard & Hans Zimmer)
Saturn Award for Best Special Effects
AFI Award for Movie of the Year
Awards Circuit Community Award for Best Motion Picture
Awards Circuit Community Award for Best Supporting Actor (Ledger)
Awards Circuit Community Award for Best Cinematography (Wally Pfister)
Awards Circuit Community Award for Best Editing (Lee Smith
Awards Circuit Community Award for Best Ensemble
Golden Globe for Best Supporting Performance (Ledger)
Grammy Award for Best Score Soundtrack
Satellite Award for Best Sound Mixing and Editing



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrt2xoy5UHo


(I won't deny that it hit me particularly hard, not only to see Ledger's family accepting the award, but also seeing Philip Seymour Hoffman — alive and well — being the first nominee addressed)

[Thief]

Here is an interesting compilation of interviews with Heath Ledger about his performance as The Joker...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acf_zzzIZQw

[Thief]

Trivia

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The Dark Knight

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Did you know that...


screenwriter David S. Goyer cited the DC comic The Long Halloween as a major influence on his storyline? His initial treatment had Joker scarring Harvey Dent during his trial in the third film.
director Christopher Nolan asked his brother and co-writer Jonathan to watch Fritz Lang's The Testament of Dr. Mabuse? Nolan referred to the film as "essential research for anyone attempting to write a supervillain".
according to Heath Ledger's vocal coach, Gerry Grennell, he had to continuously lick his lips due to his prosthetic coming off? He eventually made this a tic of the character as he was filming.
the reasons that Bruce Wayne gives Lucius Fox for a new batsuit design are the same reasons why Nolan wanted a new design as well?
Nolan didn't use a second unit during filming, thus overseeing every shot?
Ledger won 32 posthumous Best Supporting Actor awards? from the Oscar and the Golden Globe, to BAFTA, SAG, and numerous others.


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[Thief]

No hint again, but start throwing your guesses for #9. See who nails it.

[SpelingError]

No hint again, but start throwing your guesses for #9. See who nails it.

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