The MoFo Top 100 of the 2000s Countdown [Archive] - Page 18

Chypmunk

01-27-22, 11:15 AM

No surprise to see There Will Be Blood so high, it was never really in contention for a spot on my own ballot but I do find it a fairly compelling tale with a great performance from DDL.

Seen: 69/98 (Own: 48/98)

1. WALL·E (2008) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0910970/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#13]
2. Zodiac (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443706/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#9]
3. Madeo [Mother] (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216496/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#96]
4. Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi [Spirited Away] (2001) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0245429/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#5]
5. Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain [Amélie] (2001) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0211915/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#16]
6. Moon (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182345/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#48]
7. El laberinto del fauno [Pan's Labyrinth] (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0457430/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#7]
8. Der Untergang [Downfall] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#28]
10. Fa yeung nin wah [In The Mood For Love] (2000) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118694/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#12]
11. Oldeuboi [Oldboy] (2003) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364569/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3) [#22]
12. The Departed (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407887/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#19]
14. The Loved Ones (2009) - dnp
15. Låt den rätte komma in [Let The Right One In] (2008) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1139797/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#29]
16. The Descent (2005) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#80]
17. Mulholland Dr. (2001) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166924/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#4]
18, Oasiseu [Oasis] (2002) - dnp
19. Kiraware Matsuko no isshô [Memories Of Matsuko] (2006) - dnp
21. Dare mo shiranai [Nobody Knows] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0408664/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
22. Bin-jip [3-Iron] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0423866/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
23. Hak se wui: Yi woo wai kwai [Election 2] (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0491244/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
24. Control (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421082/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_6) - dnp
25. The Pool (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0911024/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_6) [1-ptr]

Faildictions (millennial edition v1.01):
26. Superbad (2007)
25. Memento (2000) [11]
24. Road To Perdition (2002)
23. The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers (2002) [15]
22. Shrek (2001)
21. Requiem For A Dream (2000) [26]
20. Oldboy (2003) [22]
19. Inglourious Basterds (2009) [18]
18. Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind (2004) [6]
17. City Of God (2002) [25]
16. In The Mood For Love (2000) [12]
15. O Brother Where Art Thou? (2000) [21]
14. Children Of Men (2006) [17]
13. Amélie (2001) [16]
12. Zodiac (2007) [9]
11. WALL·E (2008) [13]
10. The Departed (2006) [19]
9. The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring (2001)
8. Shaun Of The Dead (2004) [20]
7. Mulholland Drive (2001) [4]
6. Pan's Labyrinth (2006) [7]
5. There Will Be Blood (2007) [3]
4. The Dark Knight (2008) [10]
3. Spirited Away (2001) [5]
2. The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King (2003) [8]
1. No Country For Old Men (2007)

The aunt Agatha-ing with the final Faildiction continues, and it's right down to the wire now........

Miss Vicky

01-27-22, 11:15 AM

Yeah, Phantom Thread is a goodie.

No.

Holden Pike

01-27-22, 11:16 AM

Paul Thomas Anderson likes to make movies about s***ty people doing s***ty things to each other and There Will Be Blood is a prime example of that. The only PTA movie I like was not eligible for this countdown.
Which you do not find appealing unless one of the shitty people is played by Joaquin Phoenix. We got it. :)

Miss Vicky

01-27-22, 11:18 AM

Which you do not find appealing unless one of the shitty people is played by Joaquin Phoenix. We got it. :)

I don't like The Master. (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2046700#post2046700)

Swan

01-27-22, 11:23 AM

There Will Be Bud

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Get it? 'Cause they're buddies!

Sedai

01-27-22, 11:23 AM

Agree with Vicky about this guy. Still, the tremendous skill on display here, as well as the towering performance by Lewis, cement this film's standing as one of the greatest of the decade, and perhaps of all time, if I attempt to be as objective as possible. I re-watched it just before I submitted my ballot, because it was one of the films I was having the most trouble placing. I watched it later at night, after my family had gone to bed, and I while I was mesmerized by certain incredibly well-done sections, there were several things that convinced me to push this down near the bottom of my ballot.

First off, the sound production and score set my teeth on edge. Not quite as bad as Magnolia, but close. Also, as Vicky inferred, the main character is an awful person in the extreme. What an *******, man. I also found myself drifting off at various times, so it was an uneven experience for me. The camera work is masterful, enough so that it defeated both of Deakin's 2007 films (!!!) - one of which will appear here tomorrow - at the Academy Awards.

So yea, objectively, perhaps this is top stuff, but as far as my taste is concerned, I knocked it all the way down to #20 on my list. This also stems from the fact that I have a fairly big chip on my shoulder when it comes to PTA, who is also kind of a prick, if I am to believe the footage and interactions I have seen in some of his film's extras over the years.

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Thief

01-27-22, 11:26 AM

Critics

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Critics thoughts on our #3, There Will Be Blood...

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It currently has a 91% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 8.2/10 score on IMDb (with 558,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★½ and said:

"There Will Be Blood is the kind of film that is easily called great. I am not sure of its greatness. It was filmed in the same area of Texas used by No Country for Old Men, and that is a great film, and a perfect one. But There Will Be Blood is not perfect, and in its imperfections (its unbending characters, its lack of women or any reflection of ordinary society, its ending, its relentlessness) we may see its reach exceeding its grasp. Which is not a dishonorable thing."

Meanwhile Donald Munro, of Fresno Bee, said:

"I hate the way the film forces us into its epic structure and purposefully fractured narrative as if the audience is a puppy having its little nose shoved in a puddle of its own making."

As for our MoFo reviewers, Iroquois said:

"Any assessment I make of There Will Be Blood always comes back to asking myself whether it's better than No Country for Old Men. Although the two have very little in common, they're both excellent, and it's tough to decide which one to give the edge to. There Will Be Blood was an excellent film, and not just solely on the back of Day-Lewis's performance. It's a gripping experience, and will constantly surprise up until the bitter end."

And BobbyB said:

"PT Anderson needs to take a lesson from Sergio Leone and Once Upon a Time in the West. The art and the way Leone paints the silence of the three outlaws waiting in an empty station was much more effective and not as forced as Anderson's direction in the opening 15 minutes. That's just where my problems begin."

Holden Pike

01-27-22, 11:29 AM

84810

There Will Be Blood was on my ballot, though on the low side at number twenty-two. I knew it didn't need my help to place very highly on the collective list. I don't think I even realized until weeks after I turned in my ballot and the countdown began that I had placed There Will Be Blood and Gangs of New York back-to-back on my ballot. There are not enough adjectives to describe Daniel Day-Lewis' performance as Daniel Plainview. Twenty-one years and counting into the 21st Century and I think it still stands tall as the most compelling work yet put on the big screen. A performance for the ages. That alone warrants it being third on a countdown like this, whether or not one grooves to the misanthropy of Paul Thomas Anderson's dark world.

HOLDEN’S BALLOT
1. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (#86)
2. Dancer in the Dark (#49)
3. Revanche (DNP)
4. Waltz with Bashir (DNP)
5. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (#6)
6. Talk to Her (DNP)
7. Children of Men (#17)
8. Amélie (#16)
9. The Lives of Others (#41)
10. The Pianist (#31)
11. Wonder Boys (DNP)
13. Zodiac (#9)
14. Synecdoche, New York (#46)
15. Moon (#48)
16. Fantastic Mr. Fox (#70)
17. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (#92)
18. A Serious Man (#66)
19. Adaptation. (#43)
20. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (#51)
21. Downfall (#28)
22. There Will Be Blood (#3)
23. Gangs of New York (DNP)
24. Memento (#11)
25. Letters from Iwo Jima (DNP)

MovieMeditation

01-27-22, 11:33 AM

Okay, that’s surprising… can’t believe No Country is still in the running.

However, I think this is where it ends. Fellowship is so immensely popular. But if No Country wins… that basically means I win cause I’m Anton Chigurh, so :king:

But anyways, yeah. I did not vote for There Will Be Blood even though I consider PTA the greatest director working today. And definitely my favorite director working today. He always challenges me and I love the way he goes about making movies.

But somehow his most popular film is not one I love. I admire it a whole lot, I think it’s expertly put together, but I’m always so cold to it when I watch it. Obviously, it’s deliberately dark and “emotionless”, so to speak, so everything it tries to do it succeeds in. You are not supposed to root for Day-Lewis’ character, I understand that, but even so I just don’t connect with the movie as much as I want to.

But I’m glad to see it on here even so and I’m not surprised it’s that high. I even thought it would be number one…

Thief

01-27-22, 11:40 AM

Trailer

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeSLPELpMeM

John Dumbear

01-27-22, 11:44 AM

TWBB was a good film, didn't make my ballot though.

ScarletLion

01-27-22, 11:44 AM

There will be Blood is a phenomenal film. Dano and Day Lewis just boss the screen. Two off the charts performances. It missed my ballot by an atom's hair. Could have made it on another day.

seanc

01-27-22, 11:45 AM

There Will Be Blood was number 3 on my list. Nothing left the say really. I have spilled my pea brains all over mofo about the greatest modern director. I always look forward to my next watch of TWBB where it becomes my favorite PTA until I watch The Master or Magnolia again. Great writer, always great visuals and score. Always funny, even when it’s more subtle like here or Phantom Thread. Keep ‘em coming for a couple more decades Mr. Anderson.

I thought either TWBB or No Country would win this, with Fellowship third. Not disappointed though, all three amazing and worthy of their spot.

rauldc14

01-27-22, 11:47 AM

TWBB wasn't on my list. 2007 was an amazing year, and while the film is pretty good, it wouldn't even crack a top 5 of that year for me. Probably top 10.

John-Connor

01-27-22, 11:49 AM

There Will Be Blood is my #23. Only seen it once when it came out, but that one viewing was enough to make an impression lasting all the way to ballot deadline time. DDL is a baws!
Personal trivia; back in the day ('89) I could do a pretty good DDL in My Left Foot impersonation.

Seen: 78/98
Ballot: 20/25

25. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
24. Snatch
23. There Will Be Blood
22. In the Mood for Love
21. DNP
20. Inglourious Bastardos
19. The Dark Knight
18. Sin City
17. DNP
16. DNP
15. Lost in Translation
14. DNP
13. Ip Man
12. The Pianist
11. Downfall
10. Master and Commander
09. Casino Royale
08. Kill Bill: Vol. 1
07. Ocean’s Eleven
06. Zodiac
05. City of God
04. Donnie Darko
03. Collateral
02. Gladiator
01. The Two Towers

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The Rodent

01-27-22, 11:59 AM

Blood was awesome. That is all.

1. Moon (2009) - 48th
2. There Will Be Blood (2007) - 3rd
3. YES
4. Pan's Labyrinth (2006) - 7th
5. YES
6. Shaun of the Dead (2004) - 20th
7. Zodiac (2007) - 9th
8. Sin City (2005) - 47th
9. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) - 15th
10. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) - 8th
11. Million Dollar Baby (2004) - 57th
12. NO
13. Cast Away (2000) - 69th
14. WALL·E (2008) - 13th
15. NO
16. NO
17. NO
18. The Dark Knight (2008) - 10th
19. NO
20. Unbreakable (2000) - 62nd
21. Gladiator (2000) - 40th
22. Watchmen (2009) - 87th
23. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003) - 63rd
24. NO
25. Inglourious Basterds (2009) - 18th

pahaK

01-27-22, 12:00 PM

I think you would like it.

Think again :( Triangle definitely isn't my kind of movie. I wouldn't call it bad, but I just generally dislike movies like that. In other words, I just finished it and would probably have skipped had I known what it was about.

Rockatansky

01-27-22, 12:01 PM

I liked TWBB when I saw it, but Paul Dano and some of DDL's histrionics have made me hesitant to return to it. I did not vote for it.

mark f

01-27-22, 12:03 PM

I'd say there is about 2% shouting in There Will be Blood, my #24. Plainview is a salesman, and if you haven't been exposed to a certain type of salesman, then you should count yourself lucky and use this film as an innocent way to experience them without literally getting locked in a room with one or more. Some people believe that the final scene is over-the-top; the whole milkshake/bowling alley diptych, but it actually is a mirror of the earlier scene where Daniel spent his most-open, honest exchanges in the film. Those were with his "brother" Henry. They talked about what they shared in the past and what's "inside" Daniel as he becomes more and more successful and why he acts the way he does; at least his rationalization of why he does what he does. And to tell you the truth, you don't have to be an American capitalist to relate to his thoughts. He wants to win at all costs and doesn't enjoy seeing others do well. Sure, it could be a capitalist who thinks such things, but it could also be a socialist dictator or an imperialist from our ancient past. The fact that when Daniel finds that there is a bit of his exposed soul out there with Henry, who turns out to not be his brother, means that Daniel has to kill him and get rid of any evidence of his true feelings from anyone who isn't of his own blood. This can also be seen as a parallel theme to why Daniel isn't as open and honest with his "son" because he, too, is not "of his blood".

The same thing happens at the end of the film. Daniel apparently likes to hang out in his "War Room", his bowling alley, at night. He drinks and he passes out, right in the middle of the bowling lane where he undoubtedly tries to violently mow down all the little enemy pins with his violent bowling ball(s). Poor, overmatched Eli believes that he still has the trump card on Daniel, so he enters his boudoir of violent success with absolutely an innocent's concept of the kind of battle he will find himself in. Daniel seems to be in hog heaven when he has a chance to pay back somebody else who has seen him expose his weakness, even if in that case, Daniel was still in salesman mode and was never sincere for a second, but Eli could still lord it over him in front of his parishioners. The fact that Daniel could drink Eli's milkshake before destroying him physically is Daniel's psychological payback to Eli for having the audacity to believe that he was his equal in any regard, including salesmanship. The drinking of people's "milkshake"s isn't really over-the-top either, since Daniel knows that Eli is not long for this world. Why not give him a personal show even more spectacular than the ones that Eli presented in his "church"? I just find it very interesting that the desire for oil as a way to defeat an enemy and to become and strengthen oneself as a "superpower" does have its satiric value, even if I still don't see the movie as a "true" critique of the current U.S. administration.

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I drank some of my daughter's chocolate milkshake in Alaska. I used a straw. It was very difficult for me to actually get it to pass through the straw because it seemed to collapse in on itself the harder I sucked. The way I was able to get a good taste of the milkshake was to take the straw out and suck on the bottom (opposite end) of it. It made me start to wonder why Daniel had such an easy time drinking Eli's milkshake.

One other thing I started thinking about (notwithstanding the earlier comment that "I drink your milkshake" was a direct political quote) was that I always ordered a chocolate malt(ed) instead of a milkshake because I always found it easier to pass through the straw, let alone the fact that it had more flavor. Now, did Daniel drink Eli's milkshake because it was the more difficult way to get what he wanted? Daniel does seem to occasionally do things the difficult way. I want to ask all the people who recall the beginning of the film, how in the hell did Daniel drag himself, apparently for miles, with a broken leg, up out of his mine and all across the rugged territory he had to navigate to get to lay claim to his find? I realize that he's a tough S.O.B., and I don't mean this early scene to be a flaw in the film. Maybe you can just fill in some of the details which we all miss from the time he's screwed to the time he makes it to the assayer's office. What do you think happened? I'd say it was as significant as anything else that IS ACTUALLY SHOWN in the film.

My List

1. The Incredibles
2. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
3. King Kong
5. Ratatouille
6. The Heart of the World
7. Downfall
8. Up
9. The Dark Knight
10. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
11. Everything Will Be OK
12. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
13. Talk to Her
14. Tell No One
15. WALL·E
16. Children of Men
17. Pan's Labyrinth
18. Spirited Away
19. The Pianist
20. A.I. Artificial Intelligence
21. Pride & Prejudice
22. Hotel Rwanda
24. There Will be Blood
25. City of Life and Death

Allaby

01-27-22, 12:05 PM

There Will Be Blood was my #6. It’s an absolute masterpiece and one of the greatest films of all time.

KeyserCorleone

01-27-22, 12:06 PM

I've seen There Will Be Blood and No Country for Old Men twice, both simultaneously since they came out in the same year. At first I favored Blood, but it felt a little empty. Reevaluating No Country shot it up to the top of my 2007 list. Didn't vote for There Will Be Blood.

pahaK

01-27-22, 12:07 PM

There Will Be Blood was my #12. I've only seen it once, but it did impress me. Had I given it a rewatch, it might have been even higher. I guess I'll just do a full reveal of my ballot tomorrow. Kinda pointless to drop a name or two now.

Deschain

01-27-22, 12:23 PM

Yep made my list.

Thief

01-27-22, 12:33 PM

SpelingError

01-27-22, 12:56 PM

Now that we're at the top three I've officialy lost hope for Triangle

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91O-RrMd1uL._SY500_.jpg

I voted for that one!

Thief

01-27-22, 12:58 PM

Awards

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Now to the awards received by There Will Be Blood...

Academy Award for Best Actor (Daniel Day-Lewis)
Academy Award for Best Cinematography (Robert Elswit)
BAFTA Film Award for Best Actor (Day-Lewis)
SAG Award for Best Actor (Day-Lewis)
AFI Award for Movie of the Year
Awards Circuit Community Award for Best Actor of the Decade (Day-Lewis)
Chlotrudis Award for Best Actor (Day-Lewis)
Chlotrudis Award for Best Director (Paul Thomas Anderson)
Chlotrudis Award for Best Supporting Actor (Paul Dano)
Faro Island Film Festival Audience Award for Best Film
Faro Island Film Festival Audience Award for Best Actor (Day-Lewis)
Gold Derby Award for Lead Actor of the Decade (Day-Lewis)
Golden Globe for Best Actor (Day-Lewis)
Golden Schmoes Award for Best Actor (Day-Lewis)
Golden Schmoes Award for Best Line of the Year ("I drink your milkshake!")
Village Voice Film Poll Award for Best Film
Village Voice Film Poll Award for Best Actor (Day-Lewis)

Among many, many others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jxK54LnTZ0

SpelingError

01-27-22, 01:08 PM

Paul Dano

I'm not sure that this will change your opinion, but while Paul Dano's performance was initially one of my issues with the film, I warmed up to it over time. Both Daniel Plainsview and Eli Sunday are con artists. Due to that, their characters are both performing at all times since they enjoy the power it gives them. The difference between the two of them, however, is that Plainsview is much smarter than Sunday and, therefore, is a more convincing actor. Dano's performance makes it apparent that his character is trying way too hard. The over-the-topness of his performance allows for Plainsview to see through his ruse and dislike his character. I still prefer Day-Lewis's performance, but I also think Dano's performance works, just in a different way.

Hey Fredrick

01-27-22, 01:09 PM

And today's announcement wraps up my list. Quick recap:

Memento @ #11 was my #1. The gimmick is what makes this so much fun for me ("what am i doing? I'm chasing this guy. *BANG* *BANG* Okay, he's chasing me") and is another movie I can watch over and over. Love the scene where Carrie Anne Moss plays on Lenny's condition to have him help her. Great stuff. Remember Sammy Jenkins....

At #7 was my #10 Spirited Away. This was the first anime movie I ever watched and it blew me away. Watched it again the other day and nothing has changed. Movie flies by and still love them cute, little, sooty balls.

Pan's Labyrinth @ #7 is another from my ballot. I had it at #4.

There Will Be Blood was my #23. DDL is just amazing. Not my favorite performance from him this decade (oooh billy, billy billly, billy, billy) but it was his best movie. I actually didn't like this much when I first watched it but PTA is one of those directors whose movies I'll usually give a second chance, if at first I didn't enjoy it. This and Mulholland Drive, which just missed my list, are two movies that really benefit from a re-watch.

Seen 77/100

Movies I forgot about:
The Biggest is Dogville. That's a top 5 for me. The other one I wish I would have remembered is Gosford Park, but that would have been at the lower end of my ballot. Also left off two Dynamite movies, Black and Napoleon, in favor of the comedy that gave me the biggest laughs on first viewing. Can't remember which one it was, must've had a little too much of Grandpa's cough medicine last night.

SpelingError

01-27-22, 01:11 PM

There Will be Blood was #19 on my ballot.

I know this review of There Will Be Blood contradicts how I just defended Dano's performance (keep in mind that I wrote it a while ago when I still had an issue with his performance), but here's what I wrote on the film a while ago:

While this isn't quite a great film for me, it's definitely one of the most compelling character studies I've come across in recent years. What I love most about Anderson's handling of Daniel Plainview is how his true colors are gradually revealed throughout the film as opposed to painting him as a murderer right at the start. In the opening 15 minutes, him adopting H.W. after his father dies makes him seem like a kind man who we're going to come to root for. As the film continues on though, he's revealed to be more untrustworthy, and as the conflict between Eli Sunday and him intensifies in several expressive scenes, his true colors are gradually revealed, making for a truly horrifying character who stomps on everyone in his way to accomplish his goals, yet always gets away with it. While I've recommended rewatching several of the films I've written about in the past, I can't recommend doing so enough for this one since the first couple acts feel entirely different once you're made aware of his personality. Seemingly harmless scenes such as Anderson removing Plainview's journey back to the assay office after breaking his leg and Plainview staring at Eli after he demands $10,000 from him begin to take on double meanings. As many other people pointed out, Daniel Day-Lewis's performance is quite remarkable as it's full of subtle undertones of hatred and manipulation which uncomfortably get under your skin throughout the picture. In addition, the cinematography was great as, not only does the oil rig fire, combined with the lively score, make for a truly phenomenal visual set piece, but the shots of the environment feel vast and as if there's a myriad of land past the hills and valleys. Despite all this, I do have a couple issues with it as Paul Dano, who doesn't even remotely hold up to Day-Lewis, felt over-the-top and annoying since he often overacted to the point where he'd literally start squeaking in various scenes, and, although I initially loved its near wordless intro, the more I think about it, the more it feels like it was an excuse to show off. I think Magnolia is Anderson's best film, but I can't blame anyone who names this as his best work as it accomplishes an awful lot.

1. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (#78)
2. Pan's Labyrinth (#7)
3.
4. Children of Men (#17)
5.
6.
7. A Serious Man (#66)
8.
9. 28 Days Later (#45)
10.
11. Memento (#11)
12. Mulholland Drive (#4)
13. Shaun of the Dead (#20)
14.
15. In the Mood for Love (#12)
16. Requiem For a Dream (#16)
17.
18. The Pianist (#31)
19. There Will Be Blood (#3)
20. Moon (#48)
21.
22.
23. Sunshine (#88)
24. Zodiac (#9)
25. The New World (#99)

Rockatansky

01-27-22, 01:23 PM

I'm not sure that this will change your opinion, but while Paul Dano's performance was initially one of my issues with the film, I warmed up to it over time. Both Daniel Plainsview and Eli Sunday are con artists. Due to that, their characters are both performing at all times since they enjoy the power it gives them. The difference between the two of them, however, is that Plainsview is much smarter than Sunday and, therefore, is a more convincing actor. Dano's performance makes it apparent that his character is trying way too hard. The over-the-topness of his performance allows for Plainsview to see through his ruse and dislike his character. I still prefer Day-Lewis's performance, but I also think Dano's performance works, just in a different way.
I suspect it's a case where I find an actor's screen presence off putting enough to override any artistic intent in his choices. Going up against DDL dialed up to 11 did him no favours.

Thief

01-27-22, 01:26 PM

Think again :( Triangle definitely isn't my kind of movie. I wouldn't call it bad, but I just generally dislike movies like that. In other words, I just finished it and would probably have skipped had I known what it was about.

Sorry you didn't like it. I thought it handled its twists and turns in a fairly clever way. I don't really get into specifics, but here's my review (https://www.movieforums.com/reviews/2246363-triangle.html), FWIW.

SpelingError

01-27-22, 01:30 PM

I suspect it's a case where I find an actor's screen presence off putting enough to override any artistic intent in his choices. Going up against DDL dialed up to 11 did him no favours.
Fair enough.

Thief

01-27-22, 01:35 PM

I suspect it's a case where I find an actor's screen presence off putting enough to override any artistic intent in his choices. Going up against DDL dialed up to 11 did him no favours.

I never had any big issues with Dano, but I actually think the opposite in that seeing him hold his own against "DDL dialed up to 11" has made me respect his performance even more. Like Speling said, he's a performer, and having seen my fair share of "theatrical" Bible-thumpers in real life, I couldn't help but see them reflected in Dano and viceversa.

I also think that a bit of context helps make the case for Dano more impressive, in that he was not meant to play Eli, but had to step in when the other actor couldn't hold his own. Dano only had *four days* to prepare for the role of Eli, and to deliver such a complex performance under these circumstances, I think it's amazing.

edarsenal

01-27-22, 01:46 PM

For you Open Range fans it did place well on the MoFo Top 100 Westerns List (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=61540) at number thirty-six.

The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada, The Proposition, 3:10 to Yuma, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, and There Will Be Blood were the other films from this decade that placed on that list. Three of which made this countdown.
It was a solid place for the Western Countdown, thanks for the post, Holden!

Thief

01-27-22, 02:10 PM

Trivia

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There Will Be Blood

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Did you know that...

Paul Thomas Anderson bought a copy of Oil! while in London because he felt homesick? He has said that he changed the title because he only used the first hundred pages or so as a stepping stone so he didn't feel it was a "proper adaptation".
the famous "milkshake" line was paraphrased from a quote by former Secretary of the Interior and U.S. Senator Albert Fall, during a Congress investigation into a 1920s oil-related scandal?
Anderson was also inspired by John Huston's The Treasure of the Sierra Madre since it also deals with "greed and ambition and paranoia and looking at the worst parts of yourself"? While writing the script, he would put the film on before he went to bed at night.
Dillon Freasier, the boy that plays Daniel Plainview's son, was not an actor, but a Texas boy that lived close to the shooting location? When the production team approached his mother, she rented Gangs of New York to see who DDL was, but panicked at the idea of her son spending time with the man who played a "murderous gang leader". As a result, the casting department rushed to her a copy of The Age of Innocence where Day-Lewis plays a "civilized and gentle man".
both this film and No Country for Old Men were shooting at the same time in Marfa, Texas? When PTA and his crew were testing the effects of the oil derrick fire, the huge smoke column delayed the filming of the Coen brothers until the next day.
the actor originally cast as Eli Sunday was Kel O'Neill? Some sources claim that he was intimidated by DDL's intensity, but PTA and Day-Lewis deny the claim.

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mrblond

01-27-22, 02:12 PM

• There Will Be Blood was my one pointer. I put it at #25 because I was sure it will get huge support.
Saw it in the theater when it came out and couple more times through the years. This film turned me completely toward Daniel Day-Lewis who was outstanding here. Until then, my attitude was quite cold to this actor. From this point onward, I started enjoying all his appearances on the screen.
4.5
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9. Amores perros [#81.]
10. The Wrestler [#54.]
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12. The Pianist [#31.]
14. The Man Who Wasn't There [#84.]
16. In the Mood for Love [#12.]
19. Kill Bill: Vol. 1 [#14.]
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The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou [#98]
Werckmeister Harmonies [#97]
Pride & Prejudice [#93]
Caché [#85]
American Psycho [#79]
Battle Royale [#77]
Catch Me If You Can [#72]
Fantastic Mr. Fox [#70]
A Serious Man [#66]
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Yi Yi [#50]
Dancer in the Dark [#49]
Adaptation. [#43]
Before Sunset [#42]
Casino Royale [#37]
Lost in Translation [#32]
Requiem for a Dream [#26]
Inglourious Basterds [#18]
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edarsenal

01-27-22, 02:14 PM

I have always been amazed by the dedication and intensity Daniel Day-Lewis brings to his characters. It remains a vital factor in my enjoyment of any given film that he is part of.
I have only seen There Will Be Blood twice and at a wide juncture apart from the other. The last was a bit too far for me to make a concrete decision regarding whether I should include it. Instead, knowing it would do quite well without my assistance, I did not add it to this list of favorites that I thoroughly enjoy and happily revisit.

Films Watched 71 out of 98 (72.45%)
1. Amélie (#16)
2. O Brother, Where Art Thou? (#21)
3. Ratatouille (#23)
4.
5. Gladiator (#40)
6. Pan's Labyrinth (#7)
7.
8. The Incredibles (#36)
9. V for Vendetta (#58)
10. The Dark Knight (#10)
11. WALL·E (#13)
12.
13. Memories of Murder (#27)
14. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (#76)
15.
16. Kung Fu Hustle (2004)
17. Mother (#96)
18. The Departed (#19)
19. The Beat That My Heart Skipped (2005)
20. Memento (#11)
21. In the Mood for Love (#12)
22. Downfall (#28)
23. Quills (#67)
24. Oldboy (#22)
25. A Bittersweet Life (One Pointer)

One Pointers: 10 out of 38 (26.31%)

rauldc14

01-27-22, 02:14 PM

Did you know Daniel Plainview and I have the same hometown?

edarsenal

01-27-22, 02:16 PM

Did you know Daniel Plainview and I have the same hometown?

That explains SOOO much
;)

regardless, that's pretty d@mn cool

Thief

01-27-22, 02:27 PM

Did you know Daniel Plainview and I have the same hometown?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/df/52/f0/df52f0846ff81a1f2fb81bded31899e7.gif

SpelingError

01-27-22, 02:32 PM

Did you know Daniel Plainview and I have the same hometown?

This means that ueno probably represents Eli Sunday for you then.

Citizen Rules

01-27-22, 02:51 PM

There Will Be Blood....seen it when it came out, but I don't remember it...so didn't vote for it.

SpelingError

01-27-22, 03:05 PM

I hope that No Country for Old Men wins.

honeykid

01-27-22, 03:20 PM

The top 10 sums up the entire decade for me fairly well. 'Good' films, some of which I wanted to see but didn't like, with Zodiac being the only one I really liked and would care to see again... But haven't.

I'd also point out that the first couple of years of this decade seem to be the most popular... And that's because they're, essentially, 90's films. :p

Of the 'remaining' two. One, probably the next, will be a film I managed for 40 and turned off, never to return and the second is the best of three crap films and it's just 3 hours of walking.

John W Constantine

01-27-22, 03:24 PM

It's only after 40 minutes that Paul Blart really starts to hit it's stroke of genius

Thief

01-27-22, 03:25 PM

I'd also point out that the first couple of years of this decade seem to be the most popular... And that's because they're, essentially, 90's films. :p

This is something that genuinely surprised me. I could've sworn that the latter years, specifically 2007, would come out with the win. But as you can all see from the "pit stops", 2000 dominated pretty much from the get-go.

11. Memento
12. In the Mood for Love
20. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
26. Requiem for a Dream
40. Gladiator
48. Dancer in the Dark
50. Yi Yi
53. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
62. Unbreakable
67. Quills
69. Cast Away
71. Snatch
77. Battle Royale
79. American Psycho
81. Amores Perros
90. Almost Famous
97. Werckmeister Harmonies

Ironically, there have been no 2000 films in the Top 10... so far :shifty: :D

ueno_station54

01-27-22, 04:06 PM

haven't seen it in a minute. i remember There Will Be Blood being pretty great but its not a film that necessarily spoke to me. wasn't on my list but i'm honestly surprised its this low on the list.

Kaplan

01-27-22, 04:40 PM

Sometimes to mix things up I will choose one of two other movies as my favorite of the decade, but when it comes right down to it, no film from the 2000s had more of an impact on me than There Will Be Blood, and so it was my #1. It really is just a stunning movie, and all these years later I can still feel the intensity of so many of the scenes, starting with the very opening scene, and speaking of intensity, I'm not sure I've ever seen a more intense performance than what Daniel Day-Lewis gives us, and so much of it is done with silence or at least very little dialogue. What an iconic performance that has become. My #2 film is still to come.

My List:
1. There Will Be Blood (#3)
3. Synecdoche, New York (#46)
4. Inglourious Basterds (#18)
5. The Dark Knight (#10)
6. Let the Right One In (#29)
8. Sin City (#47)
13. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (#53)
14. The Lives of Others (#41)
16. The Royal Tenenbaums (#35)
17. Memento (#11)
18. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (#86)
19. The Incredibles (#36)
20. Lost in Translation (#32)
21. Pan's Labyrinth (#7)
22. The Man Who Wasn’t There (#84)
24. Moon (#48)
25. Letters from Iwo Jima (DNP)

TheUsualSuspect

01-27-22, 05:10 PM

11. Mulholland Drive (2001)

Here is a film that I like with each viewing. I'm sure if I were to watch it again it would jump up a few more spots on my list.

It's my favourite Lynch film and he's a director that I love or hate. I couldn't get into Eraserhead or Inland Empire, but I love Blue Velvet and Mulholland Dr. I recently watched both Elephant Man and Straight Story, really dug both of those movies. Twin Peaks is in a league of its own. Lost Highway is somewhere in the middle and a film I need to revisit before I can make a real claim on it.

Mulholland Dr. is a film that has all of Lynch's cylinders firing high. The right amount of noir, mystery, dream like camera movements and oddities. Like others have said, it's a film that stays with you and makes you think about every little detail. Lynch has a mind unlike any other filmmaker and now I want to go watch Mulholland Dr. again.

TheUsualSuspect

01-27-22, 05:22 PM

7. There Will Be Blood (2007)

In 2007 I took my wife to see two movies in the theatres. She hated both of them. This was one of them. She leaned over to me 20 minutes in and whispered..."No one is talking." I nodded my head with a smile, "I know, I love it."

She claims nothing interesting happens until the infamous "milkshake" scene, but she is notoriously wrong during our arguments. There Will Be Blood is probably one of the greatest American films of all-time.

One of my favourite performances on screen. DDL delivers a staggering and powerhouse performance where he disappears behind the evil. Here's a man who is willing to 'adopt' a kid for his own personal gain. He doesn't care about his well being, just how he is perceived for his business. That business is oil and it's a "family" business to him. Yet once the child is involved in an accident that leaves him deaf, Plainview abandons him. He first leaves him during the incident, the child is scared and confused. Planview would rather marvel at the money spewing out of the ground than to take care and comfort his "son". Then he literally abandons him on the train. He's of no use to him anymore and he doesn't have the time to learn sign-language. The final nail in the coffin is towards the end when he laughs in his sons face and calls him a bastard in a basket. Planview has won everything he's wanted in terms of financial success. But he has no one to share it with, no one to care for him.

He murders a man for claiming to be his brother. Planview is not our protagonist, he's not some anti-hero. We follow the antagonist in this story and it's a marvel to watch.

The score is unnerving. Johnny Greenwood delivers a memorable score...that wasn't even nominated. A travesty. I still listen to the piece when the oil explodes and Planview rushes to safety with his son in his arms.

I could go on about how Paul Dano gives it his all and is a nice teeter-totter role for DDL, or how the film looks gorgeous. I could go on about how it's directed with precision and one objectively Anderson's best film.

I could, but I won't. Others are better at articulating their love for this film than me.

TheUsualSuspect

01-27-22, 05:23 PM

1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
2. The Dark Knight (2008)
3.
4. Amélie (2001)
5. The Royal Tenenbaums (2001)
6. The Pianist (2002)
7. There Will Be Blood (2007)
8. Memento (2000)
9. Zodiac (2007)
10. City of God (2002)
11. Mulholland Drive (2001)
12.
13. Lost in Translation (2003)
14. Sin City (2005)
15. Hot Fuzz (2007)
16. Up (2009)
17. WALL·E (2008)
18. Requiem for a Dream (2000)
19. The Departed (2006)
20. Battle Royale (2000)
21. Spirited Away (2001)
22. Oldboy (2003)
23. Inglourious Basterds (2009)
24. Kung Fu Hustle (2004)
25. American Psycho (2000)

ynwtf

01-27-22, 06:08 PM

I don't remember if I ever saw Open Range, but if I did, I don't remember it. I'm gonna have to check it out.

If you don't remember, then you haven't seen it!

Grrrrrrr @u.

Thief

01-27-22, 06:44 PM

If you don't remember, then you haven't seen it!

Grrrrrrr @u.

I read it twice but didn't remember to edit

ynwtf

01-27-22, 06:47 PM

I read it twice but didn't remember to edit
NO!!
cuz it was that great. Excellent chocolate. You will never forget. You. Will never. Forgets.

Thief

01-27-22, 06:53 PM

NO!!
cuz it was that great. Excellent chocolate. You will never forget. You. Will never. Forgets.

I'll remember to remember, but if I forget, remind me.

Harry Lime

01-27-22, 07:22 PM

There Will Be Blood is the best film of the decade. Most of you are just wrong. That's okay, we can't all be right all of the time.

1. There Will Be Blood (2007)
2. Mulholland Drive (2001)
3. Yi Yi (2000)
4. Werckmeister Harmonies (2000)
5. City of God (2002)
6. Caché (2005)
7. In the Mood for Love (2000)
8. WALL·E (2008)
9. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (2005)
11. Children of Men (2006)
13. Spirited Away (2001)
17. Shaun of the Dead (2004)
22. The Aviator (2004)
25. Atanarjuat: The Fast Runner (2001)

That's the last from my list. No Country for Old Men and The Fellowship of the Ring would have made my top 50. I'll share my complete list at the end of the show.

MovieMeditation

01-27-22, 07:46 PM

Waiting on the final two being revealed like…

https://c.tenor.com/sH-jgwK7qlEAAAAd/anton-chigurh.gif

GulfportDoc

01-27-22, 07:56 PM

There Will Be Blood was my #1.

2007 was a great year for films. Back in the day, I would probably say Zodiac was my favorite from that year, with this one and No Country for Old Men close at #2 and #3. However, as I kept going back to this, I couldn't help but be amazed at how great it is; not only from a technical standpoint cause the craft in this is insanely good, but also at the moral complexities of its characters. There's something to be said about a film that presents two leads that are essentially despicable human beings, and yet you can't help but feel drawn to them. Daniel Day-Lewis and Paul Dano were at the top of their game each. Now at 2022, although I still think No Country for Old Men and Zodiac are excellent, this is easily my favorite of the decade, and probably of the millennium so far.
...
I too had There Will Be Blood at #1. A remarkable film. The best of the decade.

No Country for Old Men was at #5.

kgaard

01-27-22, 08:13 PM

There Will Be Blood is not my P.T. Anderson (Phantom Thread 4eva!) but I appreciate its qualities and understand the admiration people have for it. And maybe if I watch it again I'll move closer to that position. No vote this time, though.

cricket

01-27-22, 08:13 PM

I see Mulholland Dr as top tier Lynch but that wasn't enough to be a contender for my ballot. It may have made my top 100, but not ahead of Triangle.

There Will Be Blood was low on my ballot, but I generally think of it as the best film of the decade.

1. The Secret in Their Eyes (2009) (#59)
2. Downfall (2004) (#28)
4. City of God (2002) (#25)
5. Adaptation (2002) (#43)
6. The Devil's Rejects (2005) (#94)
8. 28 Days Later (2002) (#45)
10. The Wrestler (2008) (#54)
11. Mystic River (2003) (#65)
13. The Departed (2006) (#19)
14. Sideways (2002) (#39)
15. Amores Perros (2000) (#81)
16. Donnie Darko (2001) (#24)
17. Y tu mamá también (2001) (#95)
24. There Will Be Blood (2007) (#3)

rauldc14

01-27-22, 09:01 PM

Waiting on the final two being revealed like…

https://c.tenor.com/sH-jgwK7qlEAAAAd/anton-chigurh.gif

Yeah but there's no way No Country won. I'd like it to, but it's not happening.

Harry Lime

01-27-22, 09:17 PM

But imagine it does win. Then what? No one knows!

rauldc14

01-27-22, 09:20 PM

I'm just glad it beat TWBB

dadgumblah

01-27-22, 09:21 PM

I'm not really a PTA fan, but I can see his power with filmmaking. And I think Plainview is absolutely DD-L's towering, greatest performance. Dano did a great job playing against him but it's Day-Lewis I remember whenever I think of this film. One of the great performances in film. That said, I'm with Miss Vicky on PTA and the type of characters he fills his movies with and they're not just movies I can revisit over and over, which is mostly what informed the choices on my list.

#2. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King 8
#3. The Dark Knight 10
#4. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers 15
#5. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl 63
#8. Unbreakable 62
#10. Million Dollar Baby 57
#15. Shaun of the Dead 20
#18. The Royal Tenenbaums 35
#20. Iron Man 83
#21. Finding Nemo 44
#22. Fantastic Mr. Fox 70
#23. The Descent 80
#25. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang 76

John Dumbear

01-27-22, 09:45 PM

In case I’ve missed it, has Thief given clues for tomorrow yet?

Thief

01-27-22, 09:45 PM

With today's entry, Paul Thomas Anderson enters the list of directors with multiple entries in the countdown. He had previously placed Punch-Drunk Love at #73. Also, with only 2 films released during the decade, PTA joins Edgar Wright, Pete Docter, Brad Bird, and Andrew Stanton as the only directors to go 100% so far (all of them 2/2).

Thief

01-27-22, 09:48 PM

In case I’ve missed it, has Thief given clues for tomorrow yet?

No clues, just...

https://c.tenor.com/0i8aBMgQAVcAAAAM/jason-mantzoukas-betting.gif

mark f

01-27-22, 09:51 PM

No Fellowship for Old Rings

MovieFan1988

01-27-22, 09:51 PM

In case I’ve missed it, has Thief given clues for tomorrow yet?

Hints: The cop and the nerdy kid that votes for his friend :laugh::laugh::laugh:
either if it's at a mall or high school, the dynamite kid will be damned if his friend don't win.

Thief

01-27-22, 09:55 PM

Some articles about There Will Be Blood...

There Will Be Blood: Paul Thomas Anderson’s deranged masterpiece (https://slate.com/culture/2007/12/there-will-be-blood-is-a-masterpiece.html)

"[There Will Be Blood] offers a persuasive critique of the nihilism that the Coen brothers’ film simply (if effectively) re-enacts. For a story that’s all about the harnessing of fateful chthonic forces, Paul Thomas Anderson has dug deeper than ever before, and struck black gold."

Why the best film of the 21st century is There Will Be Blood (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/sep/13/best-film-21st-century-there-will-be-blood-paul-thomas-anderson-daniel-day-lewis-oil)

"Daniel Day-Lewis gives perhaps the greatest, certainly the most exotic performance of his career as an oil prospector in the early 20th century, rewarded with colossal wealth that never gives him the smallest pleasure and serves only to amplify the loneliness, paranoia and resentment that were there from the very beginning."

Thief

01-27-22, 09:59 PM

This one is pretty neat...

‘There Will Be Blood’: The Original Eli Sunday Reveals the Truth About Being Fired By Paul Thomas Anderson (https://www.indiewire.com/2017/12/there-will-be-blood-kel-oneill-eli-sunday-fired-paul-thomas-anderson-1201905353/)

"O’Neill blames himself for failing to create a good working relationship with Anderson, telling Vulture, 'An actor should, with every ounce of their humanity, be attempting to give the director what he or she wants. And I recall going in and out on whether I could really do that'."

Thief

01-27-22, 10:00 PM

"Lengthy" Charlie Rose interview with Paul Thomas Anderson and Daniel Day-Lewis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SFvaootAL8

Thief

01-27-22, 10:05 PM

More useless countdown trivia... but in case you hadn't noticed, the gap in points between Mulholland Drive (#4) and There Will Be Blood (#3) was fairly small (9 points only), especially coming after the two biggest gaps in the countdown (89 points between #6 and #5, and 64 points between #5 and #4). The gap between #3 and #2 is also relatively small (15 points) that any moderately well-placed vote could've swapped them.

ynwtf

01-27-22, 10:23 PM

In case I’ve missed it, has Thief given clues for tomorrow yet?

He DID imply it was 2000. So. It's not Galaxy Quest =\

ApexPredator

01-27-22, 10:27 PM

There Will Be Blood was my number two. The story of an oilman who literally drags himself into the American dream and finds himself caught up in family, greed, and a rival named Eli Sunday is absolutely absorbing. DDL owns the screen, the cinematography is great and
the direction by PTA is superb. I think Dano holds his own with Lewis here. I think Blood is top 25 of all time for me.

My List:
1. City of God
2. There Will Be Blood
3. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
4. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
5. Memento
6. Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl
7. X
8. Up
9. Million Dollar Baby
10. X
11. Spider-Man 2
12. X
13. Brokeback Mountain
14. Finding Nemo
15. Requiem for a Dream
16. Pan's Labyrinth
17. X (Kind of surprising to me)
18. X
19. Amelie
20. Kill Bill Volume 1
21. Chicago (Just Missed)
22. The Wrestler
23. X (Probably the only one who picked this one)
24. X (Probably the only one who picked this one)
25. Gladiator

Honorable Mentions:
Remember the Titans
Unbreakable
Shaun of the Dead

My plans are to reveal the honorable mentions tomorrow and this weekend reveal the Xs.

PHOENIX74

01-27-22, 10:28 PM

3. There Will Be Blood : The best film of the decade for mine, tackling the complicated relationship between money and religion, not to mention man's relationship with his fellow man, whether that be through blood or other kinds of kinship. In doing so, and loosely basing his screenplay on the novel Oil!, Paul Thomas Anderson created one of the all time great cinematic characters in Daniel Plainview, and Daniel Day-Lewis brought him to life in one of the most stunning performances in cinematic history. Plainview's single-minded determination to enrich himself is beautifully portrayed in an epilogue that spells out just what this man is. When we hear him speak, he has the silver tongue of the devil - and has adopted a child not in a family way, but as part of his business plan. His conflict with Eli Sunday (Paul Dano, in a wonderful piece of duel-casting as twin brothers) brings out the best in both actors, as Sunday matches Plainview as a seedy con-man with his town equally in his grip. Watching the two go at it is spellbinding - but There Will Be Blood branches off into all kinds of areas - all of them good and riveting to watch. As a complete film it succeeds in all areas, to a degree that puts it in the range of titans such as Citizen Kane as masterpieces that delve into this side of human nature. There Will Be Blood was my #1, and among my top 10 all time greats.

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Films I've seen : 85
Films that have been on my radar : 7
Films I've never even heard of : 6

Films from my list : 16 (+2)

#3 - My #1 - There Will Be Blood (2007)
#6 - My #4 - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
#11 - My #5 - Memento (2000)
#12 - My #12 - In the Mood for Love (2000)
#32 - My #7 - Lost in Translation (2003)
#39 - My #17 - Sideways (2004)
#43 - My #2 - Adaptation (2002)
#49 - My #8 - Dancer in the Dark (2000)
#51 - My #6 - The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007)
#56 - My #20 - In Bruges (2008)
#59 - My #16 - The Secret in Their Eyes (2009)
#66 - My #9 - A Serious Man (2009)
#71 - My #23 - Snatch (2000)
#78 - My #13 - The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (2005)
#84 - My #21 - The Man Who Wasn't There (2001)
One pointer - World's Greatest Dad (2009)
#102 - My #10 - Little Miss Sunshine (2006)
#109 - My #19 - Michael Clayton (2007)
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DNP
My #11 - Broken Flowers (2005)
My #15 - Before the Devil Knows You're Dead (2007)
My #24 - Training Day (2001)

Rockatansky

01-27-22, 11:45 PM

No clues, just...

https://c.tenor.com/0i8aBMgQAVcAAAAM/jason-mantzoukas-betting.gif
Wow, had no idea Bad Boys 2 was this popular on this forum.

Wyldesyde19

01-27-22, 11:57 PM

Wow, had no idea Bad Boys 2 was this popular on this forum.
Clearly the “place your bets” is a reference to Oceans 13.

Rockatansky

01-28-22, 12:13 AM

Clearly the “place your bets” is a reference to Oceans 13.
Place your Bets...on Bad Boys 2.

SpelingError

01-28-22, 12:44 AM

No clues, just...

https://c.tenor.com/0i8aBMgQAVcAAAAM/jason-mantzoukas-betting.gif

https://c.tenor.com/eQPdNTXPMXEAAAAC/anton-chigurh-javier-bardem.gif

SpelingError

01-28-22, 12:53 AM

Thief should only post one film tomorrow and have us guess what the #1 film be.

pahaK

01-28-22, 01:05 AM

Thief should only post one film tomorrow and have us guess what the #1 film be.

The suspense of that could be too much for the older MoFos, though.

gbgoodies

01-28-22, 02:18 AM

I tried watching There Will Be Blood for the Westerns Countdown, but I got bored with it and gave up. Seeing how much love there is for it, I might give it another chance someday.

rauldc14

01-28-22, 06:16 AM

Thief should only post one film tomorrow and have us guess what the #1 film be.

Or guess how many points #1 had. Closest to the actual wins a DVD of said movie.

The Rodent

01-28-22, 06:23 AM

Nah, I think Thief should just stop here and make us think about the ending, like a good movie would make us do.

Holden Pike

01-28-22, 08:38 AM

The tradition has always been that the final two films are revealed simultaneously.

Holden Pike

01-28-22, 08:40 AM

Or guess how many points #1 had. Closest to the actual wins a DVD of said movie.
Which version? The deluxe six-hour directors cut boxed set with souvenir ring and prosthetic Hobbit feet?

Iroquois

01-28-22, 08:58 AM

There Will Be Blood was my #4. That review is one I wrote forever ago and undoubtedly looks a lot rougher than what I'd write about it these days, but I stand by my initial five-star rating (back in the days when I would give five stars after a single viewing).

rauldc14

01-28-22, 10:26 AM

Which version? The deluxe six-hour directors cut boxed set with souvenir ring and prosthetic Hobbit feet?

I'm ok with this.

Sedai

01-28-22, 10:42 AM

Or guess how many points #1 had. Closest to the actual wins a DVD of said movie.

Paid for and mailed by Raul, since it was his idea. ;)

rauldc14

01-28-22, 10:49 AM

Then again, everybody owns those 2 movies. Even me.

matt72582

01-28-22, 11:07 AM

I wonder if "There Will Be Blood" would have got the #1 spot had I participated, because it would be my #1.

The reason I didn't participate, was because my 25th favorite movie from the 2000s isn't even good. I went through the movies in my head, counting down them, and felt it would give points to average and undeserving movies, tipping the scales by default.

Obviously, "No Country For Old Men" is in there, but I'm curious what the other one is. Hope you all had fun.

Thief

01-28-22, 11:09 AM

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a9/c5/65/a9c565b7e2a2f7638e9f582e5756c1f0.gif

Thief

01-28-22, 11:09 AM

616 points, 33 listsThe Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/120-the-lord-of-the-rings-the-fellowship-of-the-ring.html)Director
Peter Jackson, 2001

Starring
Elijah Wood, Ian McKellen, Liv Tyler, Viggo Mortensen

Thief

01-28-22, 11:09 AM

651 points, 39 listsNo Country for Old Men (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/6977-no-country-for-old-men.html)Director
Ethan Coen, 2007

Starring
Tommy Lee Jones, Javier Bardem, Josh Brolin, Woody Harrelson

rauldc14

01-28-22, 11:09 AM

Curious what the other one is? Good grief....

Yoda

01-28-22, 11:10 AM

The Movie Forums Podcast
The Top 100 of the 2000s List Podcast
Go behind the scenes and find out what it's like to compile one of these lists from new list Curator Thief. Learn about several films that just missed the cut, and how the last few ballots changed the winner.

The best way to listen is to subscribe with iTunes (http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=306197266). The next best ways are to just download it with this link (http://www.movieforums.com/podcasts.php?podcastid=35) (or add the podcast feed (http://feeds2.feedburner.com/movieforumspodcast) into your RSS reader). Or you can just listen right now with this embedded player: /podcasts/The_Movie_Forums_Podcast_Top_100_2000s_List.mp3

rauldc14

01-28-22, 11:10 AM

Cool my curse worked! No Country wins!

Thief

01-28-22, 11:10 AM

Fellowship of the Ring was my #4. I've said it a couple of times already as the other two rolled in, but I'm a huge fan of the whole trilogy. Saw them all in theaters back then, and it was a midnblowing experience. I did a special episode of my podcast (https://www.buzzsprout.com/850063/9809747-thief-s-monthly-movie-loot-special-episode-ix-lotr-the-fellowship-of-the-ring.mp3?download=true) back in December dedicated specifically to the prologue, but I talk a bit about my experience with the film. Bottom line, it is my favorite because I think it does an excellent job of introducing us to this world (especially for someone who wasn't familiar with it, like me) and it presents us with interesting and conflicted characters. Whether it's Frodo, Gandalf, Aragorn, or my favorite Boromir, all of them making tough decisions for the greater good. The latter has what is probably my favorite arc of the whole trilogy, and maybe that's why I love this the most. In addition to all of that, it has creepy bad guys and kick-ass action. What more can I ask?

However, No Country for Old Men was my #3. Another one that messed with my mind back in the day. I've been a Coen brothers fan for a while now, so I knew this would be right within my wheelhouse. Their unique mixture of violence and humor is probably at its peak here. Pair that with such a stellar cast... from Josh Brolin, Kelly McDonald, and Tommy Lee Jones to Woody Harrelson and of course, Javier Bardem. The latter creates a unique and memorable antagonist that will be remembered years and decades later. Well, here we are 15 years later so... The Coen brothers filmography is one I have a hard time ranking, obviously because of how great they are, but this is easily Top 3 for me, as well as Top 3 of the decade.

That's all folks!...

Seen: 83/100

1. There Will Be Blood (#3)
2. Mulholland Drive (#4)
3. No Country for Old Men (#1)
4. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (#2)
5. Conspiracy
6. Memento (#11)
7. Synecdoche, New York (#46)
8. Syriana
9. Kill Bill Vol. 1 (#14)
10. Zodiac (#9)
11. Requiem for a Dream (#26)
12.
13. The Prestige (#38)
14. [COLOR="Red"]The Road
15. The Village
16. Moulin Rouge!
17. Once (#103)
18. Paradise Now
19. Road to Perdition
20. Pan's Labyrinth (#7)
21. Before Sunset (#42)
22. (500) Days of Summer
23. Mother (#96)
24. Bridge to Terabithia
25. Bamboozled

rauldc14

01-28-22, 11:11 AM

Great job Thief! You did a good job of keeping your composure of my craziness. And did a damn great job with the countdown too.

rauldc14

01-28-22, 11:12 AM

Fellowship and No Country didn't make my list. No Country was a last cut but ideally would have made it.

Thief

01-28-22, 11:17 AM

Critics

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Critics thoughts on our #2, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring...

https://i.imgur.com/CG82h2r.png

It currently has a 92% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 8.8/10 score on IMDb (with 1,800,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★ and said:

"That Fellowship of the Ring doesn't match my imaginary vision of Middle-earth is my problem, not yours. Perhaps it will look exactly as you think it should. But some may regret that the Hobbits have been pushed out of the foreground and reduced to supporting characters. And the movie depends on action scenes much more than Tolkien did."

Meanwhile Sean Burns, of Philadelphia Weekly, said:

"It's a collection of spectacular set pieces without any sense of momentum driving them into one another. The damn thing just goes on and on."

As for our MoFo reviewers, The Rodent said:

"Though there are quite a few changes in the book-film transition, including a few changes to characters and even the odd plotline, it's still a fantastic movie and captures pretty much everything a fan would want from the source material. And it works for anyone who hasn't read the books too, it's that good."

And Citizen Rules said:

"Subjectively: I was bored with the lack of exposition and felt I never was invested enough to care about what was happening on the screen. It didn't help that I couldn't make out 1/3rd of the dialogue, thanks to the sound mix being extremely heavy on the music score. The endless creepy creatures and sword fighting did little for me either. While I was amazed at the sheer spectacularness of it all, I struggled to have any connection to the actual story."

rauldc14

01-28-22, 11:17 AM

Here's my full list:

1. Man on Fire (2004)
2. Mystic River (2003)
3. Million Dollar Baby (2004)
4. Gladiator (2000)
5. Spirited Away (2001)
6. Wedding Crashers (2005)
7. Gone Baby Gone (2007)
8. Iron Man (2008)
9. Casino Royale (2006)
10. Finding Nemo (2003)
11. Gran Torino (2008)
12. Crash (2004)
13. Lost in Translation (2003)
14. Inside Man (2006)
15. The Prestige (2006)
16. Up (2009)
17. The Hangover (2009)
18. WALL·E (2008)
19. State of Play (2009)
20. Spider-Man 2 (2004)
21. The Dark Knight (2008)
22. Ghost World (2001)
23. A Beautiful Mind (2001)
24. Sideways (2004)
25. About Elly (2009)

Pretty criminal that Gran Torino didn't make it. State of Play I had to be the only voter but I love it
I assume Hangover got some more points. Gone Baby Gone seems to remain criminally underway he's. Made the millennium list but no dice here.

seanc

01-28-22, 11:17 AM

Nice! I love Fellowship but am really glad No Country won. It was my #2. It gets better every single time. Perfectly crafted. Best cat and mouse in movie history. Best villain in movie history. It’s funny. Suspense and horror. I don’t know, it’s one of those once I n a lifetime flicks.

I put my list together too fast and blanked on n Fellowship, it didn’t need my help anyway. Finally rewatched the trilogy early last year, and it’s an astounding feat to go along with being totally engrossing.

Excited to listen to the podcast. I will post my full list later because know at least 5 mofos will give it a thumbs up without actually reading it. ;)

Great job Thief

Thief

01-28-22, 11:17 AM

Critics

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Critics thoughts on our #1, No Country for Old Men...

https://i.imgur.com/Pwb7ZQU.png

It currently has a 93% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 8.1/10 score on IMDb (with 924,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★★ and said:

"This movie is a masterful evocation of time, place, character, moral choices, immoral certainties, human nature and fate. It is also, in the photography by Roger Deakins, the editing by the Coens and the music by Carter Burwell, startlingly beautiful, stark and lonely."

Meanwhile Liz Hoggard, of London Evening Standard, said:

"The lack of respect for the body, the sheer bloody aftermath depresses me. Yes, they may handle the killing with verve and ironic tension, but this is a Coen brothers film too far."

As for our MoFo reviewers, Holden Pike said:

"This is the most mature work yet from Ethan and Joel Coen. Their sensibility is all over it especially their visual composition and ability to stage the fantastic down to the smallest details, but it stays so close to the Cormac McCarthy source material that the tone is slightly heavier and, in a way, intentionally more realistic."

And Swedish Chef said:

"I've found it simply doesn't hold up to multiple viewings like a Coen flick should. Technically speaking, it's a perfect film. Those early desert scenes really are breathtaking. And kick-ass performances all around... I've mentioned somewhere else on the site how much I thought of Jones when first reading the book and he doesn't disappoint here in the least. He's the balls. But, unfortunately, No Country for Old Men isn't the balls. It's okay, though."

pahaK

01-28-22, 11:18 AM

Maybe more details later, but here's my ballot and the number of seen films.

Seen: 55/100

1. Let the Right One In (2008) [#29]
2. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) [#2]
3. Pulse (2001)
4. Ginger Snaps (2000)
5. Watchmen (2009) [#87]
6. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) [#15]
7. Rambo (2008)
8. The Descent (2005) [#80]
9. Suicide Club (2001)
10. Dog Soldiers (2002)
11. Ginger Snaps 2: Unleashed (2004)
12. There Will Be Blood (2007) [#3]
13. The Children (2008)
14. The Proposition (2005)
15. A Tale of Two Sisters (2003)
16. Tideland (2005)
17. Dark Water (2002)
18. Battle Royale (2000) [#77]
19. Chocolate (2008)
20. Pan's Labyrinth (2006)
21. Antichrist (2009)
22. Noroi (2005)
23. [REC] (2007)
24. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2009)
25. Harry Brown (2009) [1-pointer]

Torgo

01-28-22, 11:22 AM

https://i.imgur.com/aYXPz5U.jpg

mark f

01-28-22, 11:23 AM

Wonderful job, Thief! Thanks to everyone who participated too.

No Country For Old Men, my #23, is a terrific film, but the Coens just love to throw curves towards the end at the audience. They did it in Barton Fink and The Man Who Wasn't There, and I believe they do it here too. This flick grabs you from the beginning and is so unusual and suspenseful that it slowly wraps its fingers around your throat and tightens. The scene where the dog chases Llewelyn in the river almost had me giddy; I couldn't believe I was watching something that I should have seen long ago. The shootout in the deserted smalltown streets between Llewelyn and Anton was even better. I never once cared that nobody reared their head. There are several other classic suspense scenes in the film, especially involving cheap motels and a botched drug transaction. Tommy Lee Jones' Sheriff is a terrific character, but somehow, the three strong characters seem to be hung out to dry during the last 20 minutes.

NOTE - This was all resolved by me almost immediately, but I include it here anyway.

These unanswered questions are what I find lessens the impact of the film. My fave character is Llewelyn. We never see what happens to him. We can imply it, but I don't think it's fair that such a cool character "just disappears". What happened to the money? Where did Anton's character go when the Sheriff was outside the motel crime scene? We saw him. We saw the opened vent, but that was too small for him to get away through. Is Anton actually a "part-time ghost" as the Sheriff hypothesizes? Who is the family member in the wheelchair that the Sheriff talks to? (Again, I can imply who it is, and if you read the story, maybe you know, but that's not fair. Movies aren't novels and they often change things.) Does Anton kill Llewelyn's wife? The Carson Wells character implies that Anton lives by a code (even if it's a psychotic's code). Did Anton spare the wife and violate his own code, thus causing the "accident" at the end of the film? Was that crackup at the end even an "accident"? What happens to Anton? How do the Sheriff's two dreams tie the entire story together?

I loved the intro of the trilogy, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, my #4. Ian McKellen probably gives his greatest performance, and the sets, locations, cast and F/X are set up for the entire trilogy. Another film it's hard to add something new about. I guess I can say that I've been to New Zealand and seen many of the beautiful locations, mostly from afar.

My List

1. The Incredibles
2. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
3. King Kong
4. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
5. Ratatouille
6. The Heart of the World
7. Downfall
8. Up
9. The Dark Knight
10. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
11. Everything Will Be OK
12. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
13. Talk to Her
14. Tell No One
15. WALL·E
16. Children of Men
17. Pan's Labyrinth
18. Spirited Away
19. The Pianist
20. A.I. Artificial Intelligence
21. Pride & Prejudice
22. Hotel Rwanda
23. No Country For Old Men
24. There Will be Blood
25. City of Life and Death

Holden Pike

01-28-22, 11:25 AM

84859

The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring was #1 on the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium List. It was also #11 on the MoFo Top 100 Redux. Joel & Ethan Coen’s Best Picture Oscar winner No Country for Old Men was #9 on the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium List and #51 on the MoFo Top 100 Refresh.

84860

Thief

01-28-22, 11:26 AM

Trailers

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38A__WT3-o0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKEGZ-CvWHk

Rockatansky

01-28-22, 11:27 AM

Nicely done, Thief.

Chypmunk

01-28-22, 11:28 AM

The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring is the only one of the trilogy that I voted for, the others might have the epic battles but I really like the way this builds into the journey. I've only seen No Country For Old Men the once and quite liked it but it's not one I've ever felt drawn to revisiting.

Seen: 71/100 (Own: 49/100)
My ballot:
1. WALL·E (2008) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0910970/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#13]
2. Zodiac (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443706/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#9]
3. Madeo [Mother] (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216496/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#96]
4. Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi [Spirited Away] (2001) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0245429/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#5]
5. Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain [Amélie] (2001) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0211915/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#16]
6. Moon (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182345/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#48]
7. El laberinto del fauno [Pan's Labyrinth] (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0457430/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#7]
8. Der Untergang [Downfall] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#28]
9. Hable con ella [Talk To Her] (2002) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0287467/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
10. Fa yeung nin wah [In The Mood For Love] (2000) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118694/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#12]
11. Oldeuboi [Oldboy] (2003) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364569/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3) [#22]
12. The Departed (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407887/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#19]
13. Martyrs (2008) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1029234/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
14. The Loved Ones (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1316536/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
15. Låt den rätte komma in [Let The Right One In] (2008) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1139797/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#29]
16. The Descent (2005) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#80]
17. Mulholland Dr. (2001) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166924/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#4]
18, Oasiseu [Oasis] (2002) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320193/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3) - dnp
19. Kiraware Matsuko no isshô [Memories Of Matsuko] (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0768120/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
20. The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring (2001) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120737/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3) [#2]
21. Dare mo shiranai [Nobody Knows] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0408664/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
22. Bin-jip [3-Iron] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0423866/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
23. Hak se wui: Yi woo wai kwai [Election 2] (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0491244/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
24. Control (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421082/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_6) - dnp
25. The Pool (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0911024/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_6) [1-ptr]

Faildictions (millennial edition v1.01):
26. Superbad (2007)
25. Memento (2000) [11]
24. Road To Perdition (2002)
23. The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers (2002) [15]
22. Shrek (2001)
21. Requiem For A Dream (2000) [26]
20. Oldboy (2003) [22]
19. Inglourious Basterds (2009) [18]
18. Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind (2004) [6]
17. City Of God (2002) [25]
16. In The Mood For Love (2000) [12]
15. O Brother Where Art Thou? (2000) [21]
14. Children Of Men (2006) [17]
13. Amélie (2001) [16]
12. Zodiac (2007) [9]
11. WALL·E (2008) [13]
10. The Departed (2006) [19]
9. The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring (2001) [2]
8. Shaun Of The Dead (2004) [20]
7. Mulholland Drive (2001) [4]
6. Pan's Labyrinth (2006) [7]
5. There Will Be Blood (2007) [3]
4. The Dark Knight (2008) [10]
3. Spirited Away (2001) [5]
2. The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King (2003) [8]
1. No Country For Old Men (2007) [1] :bawling:

Nnnnooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
Ah well, nearly made it :)

Rockatansky

01-28-22, 11:29 AM

Let me open my trenchcoat and reveal my list...

1. Mulholland Drive (2001)
2. Hot Fuzz (2007)
3. The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call - New Orleans (2009)
4. Femme Fatale (2002)
5. 24 Hour Party People (2002)
6. Lagaan: Once Upon a Time in India (2001)
7. Spirited Away (2001)
8. Casino Royale (2006)
9. Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003)
10. Kill Bill: Vol. 2 (2004)
11. The Departed (2006)
12. Memento (2000)
13. Michael Clayton (2007)
14. 28 Days Later... (2002)
15. Crank: High Voltage (2009)
16. Children of Men (2006)
17. Domino (2005)
18. Eastern Promises (2007)
19. Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan (2006)
20. Munich (2005)
21. American Psycho (2000)
22. The Devil's Rejects (2005)
23. Election (2005)
24. Election 2 (2006)
25. [REC] (2007)

Thief

01-28-22, 11:30 AM

Awards

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Now to the awards received by The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring...

Academy Award for Best Cinematography (Andrew Lesnie)
Academy Award for Best Makeup (Peter Owen and Richard Taylor)
Academy Award for Best Music (Howard Shore)
Academy Award for Best Visual Effects
BAFTA Award for Best Film
BAFTA Award for Best Special Visual Effects
BAFTA Award for Best Makeup/Hair (Owen, Taylor, and Peter Swords King)
BAFTA David Lean Award for Direction (Peter Jackson)
BAFTA Audience Award
SAG Award for Best Supporting Actor (Ian McKellen)
Saturn Award for Best Fantasy Film
Saturn Award for Best Supporting Actor (McKellen)
Saturn Award for Best Director (Jackson)
Saturn Award for Best DVD Special Edition
AFI Award for Movie of the Year
AFI Award for Production Designer of the Year (Grant Major)
AFI Award for Digitl Effects Artist of the Year (Jim Rygiel)
Awards Circuit Community Award for Best Adapted Screenplay of the Decade
Chlotrudis Award for Best Adapted Screenplay (Jackson, Fran Walsh, Philippa Boyens)
Empire Award for Best Film
Empire Award for Best Actor (Elijah Wood)
Empire Award for Best Debut (Orlando Bloom)
Grammy Award for Best Score Soundtrack (Howard Shore)

Among many, many others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xvDg0Gp-Q4

Captain Terror

01-28-22, 11:30 AM

Here's the films I voted for that didn't make the countdown:

#2 Noriko's Dinner Table (Sono)

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#3 Innocence (Hadžihalilović)

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#8 The Host (Joon-Ho)

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#9 Little Otik (Svankmajer)

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#11 Valhalla Rising (Refn)

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#14 The Triplets of Belleville (Chomet)

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#17 Grizzly Man (Herzog)

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#21 The Fall (Singh)

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#22 Blood Tea and Red String (Cegavske)

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Thief

01-28-22, 11:30 AM

Awards

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Now to the awards received by No Country for Old Men...

Academy Award for Best Picture
Academy Award for Best Director (Joel and Ethan Coen)
Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor (Javier Bardem)
Academy Award for Best Adapted Screenplay (Coens)
BAFTA Award for Best Supporting Actor (Bardem)
BAFTA Award for Best Cinematography (Roger Deakins)
SAG Award for Best Supporting Actor (Bardem)
SAG Award for Best Performance by an Ensemble Cast
Saturn Award for Best Supporting Actor (Bardem)
AFI Award for Movie of the Year
Awards Circuit Community Award for Best Director (Coens)
Awards Circuit Community Award for Best Supporting Actor (Bardem)
Awards Circuit Community Award for Best Cast Ensemble
Awards Circuit Community Award for Best Picture
DGA Award for Best Directorial Achievemnet (Coens)
Golden Globe Award for Best Supporting Actor (Bardem)
Golden Globe Award for Best Screenplay (Coens)
National Board of Review Award for Best Film
National Board of Review Award for Best Screenplay (Coens)
National Board of Review Award for Best Ensemble
Satellite Award for Best Picture
Satellite Award for Best Director (Coens)
WGA Award for Best Screenplay (Coens)

Among many, many others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ODrmhTbVIA

Chypmunk

01-28-22, 11:32 AM

Excellent hosting job Thief - feel really sorry for whoever has to follow this one ;)

Torgo

01-28-22, 11:33 AM

Nicely done, Thief.Agreed! I'd be totally okay with Thief running the rest of these countdowns from now on (hint, hint). :p

Here is my ballot. I bolded the ones that didn't make the cut.

1. Yi Yi (2000)
2. Spirited Away (2001)
3. The Best of Youth (2003)
4. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)
5. No Country for Old Men (2007)
6. Zodiac (2007)
7. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007)
8. Perfume: The Story of a Murderer (2006)
9. The Wrestler (2008)
10. Mulholland Drive (2001)
11. Hedwig and the Angry Inch (2001)
12. Memento (2000)
13. Kingdom of Heaven (Director's Cut) (2005)
14. Millennium Actress (2001)
15. Far from Heaven (2002)
16. Caché (2005)
17. Memories of Murder (2003)
18. Adaptation. (2002)
19. The Devil's Backbone (2001)
20. Requiem for a Dream (2000)
21. Billy Elliot (2000)
22. Let the Right One In (2008)
23. 25th Hour (2002)
24. The Hurt Locker (2008)
25. Punch-Drunk Love (2002)

Iroquois

01-28-22, 11:36 AM

First off, well done to Thief and co. for running this show so well.

Second, I had Fellowship at #11 and No Country at #5. I decided I'd only put one film from the trilogy on my list and it's the easiest pick for having so many of the series' best parts in it without too much in the way of downtime (unless you're watching the extended edition, zing). Meanwhile, No Country is another one of those films that I saw at an impressionable age and which really pinned my ears back by being such a relentlessly visceral and existential thriller (but that's McCarthy and the Coens for you) - I saw it in close proximity to There Will Be Blood and also gave it five stars (not entirely sure I still would, but I'll have to revisit it to be sure) but I think out of all the 2000s films I saw during their initial theatrical releases (as opposed to the ones I saw later after their reputations had effectively been cemented), this was as strong a one-two punch as you could really ask for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD3PjSMgJB0

Sedai

01-28-22, 11:37 AM

No time to post my thoughts on the final two, but I wanted to extend a HUGE round of applause and a heartfelt THANK YOU to Thief for putting this all together. Fantastic work!

John Dumbear

01-28-22, 11:38 AM

A huge congrats to the latest host, Thief. Well run, sir!

Holden Pike

01-28-22, 11:49 AM

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No Fellowship for me this time, though it remains my favorite of the trilogy, by far. Not surprisingly I had the Coen Bros.' No Country for Old Men on my list. It was my twelfth choice. I was seventeen in 1987 when I saw Raising Arizona in the theater during its initial release. I had seen and liked Blood Simple on video but it was with their second feature that I fell head-over-cinematic-heels for Joel and Ethan's movies, and have essentially matured right along with their filmography. Their third film, Miller's Crossing, remains my all-time favorite. But not far behind it is No Country for Old Men. Cormac McCarthy's existential, nihilistic, deadly pursuit of a suitcase full of a drug lord's cash across Texas and into Mexico meshed perfectly with their sensibility and filmmaking prowess. As meticulous as Llewelyn Moss attempts to be in covering his tracks from the incessantly methodical and almost demonic Anton Chigurh, Joel and Ethan's penchant for detail and perfection brings it to life like a procedural from Hell, with the weary County Sheriff Ed Tom Bell left to bare witness to the carnage of evil incarnate.

Unlike Scorsese's win for The Departed the year before, Ethan & Joel won Best Picture and Best Directors for one of their very finest efforts. Which as a fan was ever so much more satisfying. And now they have reached the top of MoFo, too. At least for a day.

Nineteen of my choices made it. I believe having six misses is my largest gap so far in one of these exercises. Usually having six misses will cost you a lot more in a Vietnamese massage parlor.

HOLDEN’S BALLOT
1. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (#86)
2. Dancer in the Dark (#49)
3. Revanche (DNP)
4. Waltz with Bashir (DNP)
5. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (#6)
6. Talk to Her (DNP)
7. Children of Men (#17)
8. Amélie (#16)
9. The Lives of Others (#41)
10. The Pianist (#31)
11. Wonder Boys (DNP)
12. No Country for Old Men (#1)
13. Zodiac (#9)
14. Synecdoche, New York (#46)
15. Moon (#48)
16. Fantastic Mr. Fox (#70)
17. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (#92)
18. A Serious Man (#66)
19. Adaptation. (#43)
20. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (#51)
21. Downfall (#28)
22. There Will Be Blood (#3)
23. Gangs of New York (DNP)
24. Memento (#11)
25. Letters from Iwo Jima (DNP)

MovieFan1988

01-28-22, 11:50 AM

Fun Movie Bashing Part 3 - The Final 10

10. Amelie >>> The Dark Knight (2008)
9. No Country for Old Men >>> Zodiac (2007)
8. Inglorious Basterds >>> The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)
7. Lost in Translation >>> Pan's Labyrinth (2006)
6. City of God >>> Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
5. There Will Be Blood >>> Spirited Away (2001)
4. Mulholland Drive >>> Mulholland Drive (2001)
3. The Dark Knight >>> There Will Be Blood (2007)
2. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind >>> The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)
1. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring >>> No Country for Old Men (2007)

8. Inglorious Basterds >>> The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) -Them hobbit basterds are at it again, this time doing some major highway robbery on the top 10 lol

4. Mulholland Drive >>> Mulholland Drive (2001) - Looking up directions for Mullholland Drive to Mullholland Drive, you will reach your destination in 1 second lol

2. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind >>> The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) - The spotless minded hobbits stealing another spot, god dammit
:(:laugh:

1. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring >>> No Country for Old Men (2007) - The hobbits that live in no country get beaten by a bunch of old men what a damn shame :laugh:

MovieFan1988

01-28-22, 11:53 AM

Have seen so far: 34 - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - An exciting good long movie, is all I gotta say.
Have not seen so far: 71

Here's my list

1. The Departed (2006)
2. Zombieland (2009)
3. The Bourne Ultimatum (2007)
4. Wedding Crashers (2005)
5. Live Free or Die Hard (2007)
6. Friday the 13th (2009)
7. Step Brothers (2008)
8. Tropic Thunder (2008)
9. Spider-Man 2 (2004)
10. The Bourne Identity (2002)
11. The Hangover (2009)
12. Superbad (2007)
13. Shaun of the Dead (2004)
14. Mean Girls (2004)
15. The Dark Knight (2008)
16. Final Destination (2000)
17. Freddy vs. Jason (2003)
18. The Day After Tomorrow (2004)
19. Taken (2008)
20. Hot Fuzz (2007)
21. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)
22. Hostage (2005)
23. Yes Man (2008)
24. The Simpsons Movie (2007)
25. Anger Management (2003)

John Dumbear

01-28-22, 11:55 AM

Full ballot revealed with comments. Faired better than I imagined considering no animation, nor comic book fodder. Three films that saddened me for not making the cut "United 93" , "The Road", "Best in Show". What's wrong with you people! You all on dope!

Also three that I highly recommend " Hard Candy, "The Girl Next Door", " Sherrybaby". Actually see them all!

1. Pan's Labyrinth
2. City of God
3. Children of Men
4. Let the Right One In
5. Requiem for a Dream
6. Best in Show
7. Sideways
8. In Bruges
9. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
10. No Country for Old Men
11. Hard Candy
12. The Last King of Scotland
13. Quills
14. The Road
15. Old Boy
16. The Wrestler
17. 28 Days Later
18. United 93
19. Shaun of the Dead
20. Black Snake Moan
21. The Girl Next Door
22. Sherrybaby
23. Before the Devil Knows Your Dead
24. American Psycho
25. The OH in Ohio 1-ptr

Have seen so far: 62/ 101
Put on list for future viewing: 14
My list that ended up on the cutting room floor (dammit!): 7
Put on "meh" list : 24
Zero chance of ever watching: 17
1 Ptrs: seen 8

MovieFan1988

01-28-22, 11:57 AM

I had fun viewing this list and you did a good job hosting Thief.

Thief

01-28-22, 11:59 AM

Agreed! I'd be totally okay with Thief running the rest of these countdowns from now on (hint, hint). :p

And here I am staggering to the finish line :laugh:

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John Dumbear

01-28-22, 12:01 PM

And here I am staggering to the finish line :laugh:

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Is that you throwing Raul to the ground?

Thief

01-28-22, 12:01 PM

Trivia

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The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring

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Did you know that...

Christopher Lee read The Lord of the Rings once a year since the year it was published until his death in 2015? He was also the only member of the cast and crew to have met J.R.R. Tolkien and was frequently consulted by Peter Jackson and his crew regarding makeups and looks.
Stuart Townsend was originally cast as Aragorn? He was replaced with Viggo Mortensen after four days of shooting because Peter Jackson felt an older actor was needed.
Orlando Bloom landed the role of Legolas two days before finishing drama school?
despite playing a dwarf, John Rhys-Davies is the tallest actor from "the Fellowship" at 6'1"?
the scene when Gandalf hits a ceiling beam in Bilbo's home was not scripted, but was an accident from McKellen?
Sean Bean refused to fly helicopters to the remote shooting locations, choosing to walk instead?
Viggo Mortensen did his own stunts and insisted on using a real steel sword?
after filming, most of the members of the Fellowship got a tattoo of the Elvish symbol for 9? Rhys-Davies was the only one who declined, so his stunt double got one instead. After the New Zealand premiere, Peter Jackson got his own tattoo of the Elvish 10.

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Thief

01-28-22, 12:01 PM

Trivia

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No Country for Old Men

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Did you know that...

the Coens based Anton Chigurh's hairstyle on a 1979 photo of a brothel patron?
in 2018, a group of psychiatrist studied 400 movies and 126 psychopathic characters, and chose Bardem's portrayal of Chigurh as the most clinically accurate portrayal of one?
Josh Brolin was working on Grindhouse when he found out about the auditions for No Country for Old Men? He asked Robert Rodriguez for a camera, but his audition tape ended up being shot with a theatrical camera, by Quentin Tarantino, and with actress Marley Shelton playing Carla Jean.
Garret Dillahunt auditioned five times for the role of Llewelyn Moss before ending up in the role of Wendell?
Heath Ledger was in talks to play Llewelyn Moss, but withdrew to take "some time off"? He subsequently took the role of the Joker, which succeeded Bardem's as Best Supporting Actor winner.
Mark Strong auditioned for the role of Chigurh and was the second option after Bardem?
the suppressor on Chigurh's shotgun was specially made for the movie?
the money suitcase was the same type that was used in Fargo?
the three main characters do not share any screentime together?
the scene when Llewelyn crosses the border to Mexico marks the first time that a character in a Coen film has been outside the US?
Tommy Lee Jones played Two-Face in Batman Forever, another psychopath character that flips a coin to decide the fate of his victims?

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Thief

01-28-22, 12:02 PM

Is that you throwing Raul to the ground?

:shifty: :laugh:

SpelingError

01-28-22, 12:06 PM

The tradition has always been that the final two films are revealed simultaneously.

I know. I was just being goofy up above.

Captain Terror

01-28-22, 12:10 PM

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SpelingError

01-28-22, 12:11 PM

Yay, No Country for Old Men won!

Anyways, here's my full ballot:

1. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (2005)
2. Pan's Labyrinth (2006)
3. The Return (2003)
4. Children of Men (2006)
5. Hunger (2008)
6. No Country for Old Men (2007)
7. A Serious Man (2009)
8. Enter the Void (2009)
9. 28 Days Later... (2002)
10. Russian Ark (2002)
11. Memento (2000)
12. Mulholland Drive (2001)
13. Shaun of the Dead (2004)
14. Triangle (2009)
15. In the Mood for Love (2000)
16. Requiem for a Dream (2000)
17. Waltz with Bashir (2007)
18. The Pianist (2002)
19. There Will Be Blood (2007)
20. Moon (2009)
21. Tropical Malady (2004)
22. Touching the Void (2003)
23. Sunshine (2007)
24. Zodiac (2007)
25. The New World (2005)

Iroquois

01-28-22, 12:15 PM

Anyway, this was what passed for my final picks...

1. In the Mood for Love (2000)
2. Mulholland Drive (2001)
3. Spirited Away (2001)
4. There Will Be Blood (2007)
5. No Country for Old Men (2007)
6. Shaun of the Dead (2004)
7. Before Sunset (2004)
8. Battle Royale (2000)
9. Hot Fuzz (2007)
10. Memories of Murder (2003)
11. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)
12. Inglourious Basterds (2009)
13. Paprika (2006)
14. Memento (2000)
15. Kill Bill: Vol. 2 (2004)
16. Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003)
17. Yi Yi (2000)
18. Ghost World (2001)
19. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000)
20. Zodiac (2007)
21. A Scanner Darkly (2006)
22. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (2005)
23. Miami Vice (2006)
24. Grizzly Man (2005)
25. Rejected (2000)

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Ghost World was my #18, an exercise in adapting the cult comic book about two disaffected teenage girls as they dealt with the immediate aftermath of graduating high school and having to deal with what happens next - one does what she can to fight against the possibility of conforming while the other gradually acquiesces to the opportunity for stability. Throw in a middle-aged jazz obsessive to further complicate things and you have an indie dramedy that feels more genuine in its efforts to deal with the arrested development behind youthful cynicism than something superficially similar like, say, Reality Bites.

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A Scanner Darkly was my #21. Seeing Waking Life show up was one of the more pleasant surprises during this countdown, but as far as Linklater's experiments with rotoscope animation go I definitely prefer his adaptation of Philip K. Dick's 1977 novel that imagines a darkly satirical dystopia that is so twisted up in itself that the plot revolves around an undercover narcotics agent who is so undercover due to highly-advanced disguise technology that he is ultimately assigned to investigate...himself. DIck's heady material proves a curiously perfect match for Linklater's woozy hangout vibes (perfectly casting Reeves, Harrelson, and Downey Jr. as the hardscrabble addicts at the heart of the story) and the animation - much more polished here than in the chaotic dreamscapes of Waking Life - makes me think of this as Linklater's most underrated film and definitely worth a mention here.

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Miami Vice was my #23. I'm glad that Collateral and its more straightforward Mann thriller vibes made the list, but I haven't seen it in a long time (keep meaning to rewatch it, though) - since the last time I watched it, I have seen Miami Vice at least three times. Definitely a bold choice given how much Mann's post-Collateral output can easily read like diminishing returns, but such boldness is reflected in his decision to revamp the iconic '80s police drama for the 21st century and push his newfound fascination with digital photography even further in order to reflect the blurring of lines between cop and criminal that are at the heart of the film. The plot is the most archetypal Miami Vice plot - Crocket and Tubbs going undercover to foil a drug ring - but underneath the pixelated grain and byzantine plotting, Mann is able to lock onto the melancholy vibes and strange intimacies that have existed throughout just about every film he's ever made in order to reinvent one of his most iconic properties (even if it is in a way that ultimately didn't play too well amid a wave of more pleasantly nostalgic TV-based reboots).

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Grizzly Man was my #24. Considering the complete absence of documentaries on this list - after all, how many of them do prove to be genuine favourites? - it is hard not to see this as something of a wasted vote (though who knows what those two points should've gone to instead). Still, Herzog is one of my favourite directors and this still stands out as one of his quintessential films so I felt it was worth a nod, even though its bizarre and tragic subject matter - eccentric environmentalist Timothy Treadwell and his ill-fated mission to live in close proximity to a group of grizzly bears, recording his exploits on video the whole time - does not make it an enjoyable viewing experience.

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Rejected was my #25 and I guess I'm not the only one who thought it was worth voting for. Hertzfeldt has gone on to develop this film's sense of the absurd and nihilistic beyond this short parody of educational cartoons full of nonsensical exchanges and horrifying violence, but this is a solid exercise in doing so nonetheless (it's not surprising to see it get an Oscar nomination, and even less surprising to see that it lost).

Thief

01-28-22, 12:15 PM

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MovieFan1988

01-28-22, 12:15 PM

Hopefully the 2010's countdown is next, can't wait for that one

Thief

01-28-22, 12:18 PM

Stats: Finish Line
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This is the finish line, so here are our final stats!

Decade Breakdown

2000 = 17
2001 = 12
2002 = 8
2003 = 9
2004 = 11
2005 = 12
2006 = 9
2007 = 7
2008 = 7
2009 = 8

Surprised that 2000 ended up reigning. For some reason, I thought 2007 would walk away with the crown.

Director Breakdown

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Joel & Ethan Coen = 4 (No Country for Old Men, O Brother, Where Art Thou?, The Man Who Wasn't There, A Serious Man)
Christopher Nolan = 4 (The Dark Knight, Memento, The Prestige, Batman Begins)
Peter Jackson = 3 (LOTR trilogy)
Wes Anderson = 3 (The Royal Tenenbaums, Life Aquatic of Steve Zissou, Fantastic Mr. Fox)
Quentin Tarantino = 3 (Kill Bill Vol. 1, Inglourious Basterds, Kill Bill Vol. 2)
Paul Thomas Anderson = 2 (There Will Be Blood, Punch-Drunk Love) = 100%
Edgar Wright = 2 (Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz) = 100%
Andrew Stanton = 2 (WALL-E, Finding Nemo) = 100%
Brad Bird = 2 (Ratatouille, The Incredibles) = 100%
Pete Docter = 2 (Up, Monsters Inc.) = 100%
Guillermo del Toro = 2 (Pan's Labyrinth, The Devil's Backbone)
Alfonso Cuarón = 2 (Children of Men, Y tu mamá también)
Darren Aronofsky = 2 (Requiem for a Dream, The Wrestler)
Bong Joon-ho = 2 (Memories of Murder, Mother)
Clint Eastwood = 2 (Mystic River, Million Dollar Baby)
Ang Lee = 2 (Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Brokeback Mountain)
Danny Boyle = 2 (28 Days Later, Sunshine)
Richard Linklater = 2 (Before Sunset, Waking Life)

With No Country for Old Men, the Coen brothers jump to the top of the list with 4 films on the countdown, along with Christopher Nolan. Meanwhile, Peter Jackson finishes with the whole trilogy.

Genre Breakdown

Musical = 2
Biopic drama = 6
Romantic drama = 7
Horror = 5
Horror comedy = 1
Coming of age = 2
Thriller = 14
Drama/mystery = 5
Comedy drama = 10
Romantic comedy = 1
Action comedy = 3
Epic, war drama = 3
Psychological drama = 5
Animated drama = 3
Animated comedy = 7
Superhero action = 5
Crime = 8
Western/Neo-western = 3
Science fiction = 2
Martial arts = 3
Action = 2
Fantasy = 3

Thrillers end up dominating with 14 entries, but comedy dramas and crime films end up close behind.

In total, we finished with roughly 27 foreign films and 10 animated films.

Tugg

01-28-22, 12:18 PM

My ballot:

1. Tropic Thunder (2008)
2. Chicago (2002)
3. Mean Girls (2004)
4. The Departed (2006) (#19)
5. The Dark Knight (2008) (#10)
6. Mulholland Drive (2001) (#4)
7. Hot Fuzz (2007) (#30)
8. Pan's Labyrinth (2006) (#7)
9. Bridget Jones's Diary (2001)
10. The Bourne Identity (2002)
11. The Bourne Supremacy (2004)
12. Sherlock Holmes (2009)
13. Troy (2004)
14. How To Lose A Guy In 10 Days (2003)
15. Watchmen (2009) (#87)
16. Eden Lake (2008)
17. Iron Man (2008) (#83)
18. Collateral (2004) (#55)
19. Panic Room (2002)
20. Up in the Air (2009)
21. Black Hawk Down (2001)
22. Minority Report (2002)
23. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) (#15)
24. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) (#2)
25. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) (#8)

Allaby

01-28-22, 12:26 PM

My ballot:

1. The Departed (2006)
2. Gangs of New York (2002)
3. No Country for Old Men (2007)
4. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002)
5. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)
6. There Will Be Blood (2007)
7. Hotel Rwanda (2004)
8. 21 Grams (2003)
9. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)
10. Downfall (2004)
11. The Darjeeling Limited (2007)
12. Fantastic Mr. Fox (2009)
13. The Piano Teacher (2001)
14. The Passion of the Christ (2004)
15. Crash (2004)
16. Babel (2006)
17. Mulholland Drive (2001)
18. Avatar (2009)
19. Traffic (2000)
20. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008)
21. The Dark Knight (2008)
22. Letters from Iwo Jima (2006)
23. The Pianist (2002)
24. United 93 (2006)
25. Munich (2005)

Allaby

01-28-22, 12:27 PM

Super excellent job hosting Thief! 🥳

Yoda

01-28-22, 12:34 PM

Massive thanks to Thief, who did a fantastic job. The sheer amount of relevant (and interesting!) information he posted during this countdown is staggering. I particularly enjoyed the "quote from a critic/quote from a MoFo" thing. That's a great idea that I would strongly encourage future list Curators to steal.

Well done my friend!

seanc

01-28-22, 12:39 PM

Second the quotes from a critic/mofo comment. Even on days I couldn’t read anything, I still checked out those. Despite me having to wince at some of my old reviews all over again.

Torgo

01-28-22, 12:41 PM

Miss Vicky

01-28-22, 12:45 PM

I don't like and didn't vote for either of these, but I am happy to see that LOTR didn't come out on top. :up:

Great job hosting Thief! And thank you for all the hard work you've done here. It's been a lot of fun!

Miss Vicky

01-28-22, 12:46 PM

My Full Ballot:

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1. Quills (Philip Kaufman, 2000) / #67

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2. Gladiator (Ridley Scott, 2000) / #40

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3. Up (Pete Docter and Bob Peterson, 2009) / #33

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4. Mary and Max. (Adam Elliot, 2009)

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5. Ratatouille (Brad Bird and Jan Pinkava, 2007) / #23

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6. Hedwig and the Angry Inch (John Cameron Mitchell, 2001) / #92

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7. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004) / #6

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8. 3:10 to Yuma (James Mangold, 2007)

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9. Lilo & Stitch (Dean DeBlois and Chris Sanders, 2002)

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10. Bubba Ho-tep (Don Coscarelli, 2002)

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11. Black Snake Moan (Craig Brewer, 2006)

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12. WALL·E (Andrew Stanton, 2008) / #13

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13. The Libertine (Laurence Dunmore, 2004)

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14. The Departed (Martin Scorsese, 2006) / #19

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15. Tokyo Godfathers (Satoshi Kon, 2003)

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16. Waltz with Bashir (Ari Folman, 2007)

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17. A Town Called Panic (Stéphane Aubier and Vincent Patar, 2009)

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18. Cold Mountain (Anthony Minghella, 2003)

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19. Ghost World (Terry Zwigoff, 2001)

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20. Walk the Line (James Mangold, 2005)

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21. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (Gore Verbinski, 2003) / #63

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22. A Mighty Wind (Christopher Guest, 2003)

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23. Open Range (Kevin Costner, 2003)

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24. Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009) / #18

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25. Surf's Up (Ash Brannon and Chris Buck, 2007) / One-Pointer

MovieMeditation

01-28-22, 12:47 PM

I’m alright…

Let me just sit here a minute.

Despite a main theme of the film being retirement this little masterpiece right here wasn’t about retire just to bow down to a bunch of midgets and birthday magicians. Hell naw. Anton Chigurh and co. took care of The Fellowship behind curtains and got ready for curtain call.

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The LOTR trilogy is highly regarded but even so No Country for Old Men didn’t just pull the victory out of thin air… it took that air and used it to blow Frodo and his fellowship all way across middle earth and got the 3 times 3 hour trilogy over and done with in a split second, so we can all just move on from the #2 and simply focus on what matters: THE #1 MOVIE OF ALL TIME AND THE #1 ON MY LIST (obviously).

What a film. A slow burn tension-filled mood piece filled with sharp dialogue, dense atmosphere and the greatest cat and mouse display since Tom and Jerry. Ain’t nobody more disturbingly mental but brilliantly smart than the calm craze of Anton Chigurh. A character who was also voted by psychologists as the most authentic display of a genuine madman on film. Which is very understandable.

I love disappearing into the world of a Coen movie and their flair for creating a world that feels lived in and characters who live before and beyond the runtime. You are instantly right there in the midst of everything and you feel like you’ve been there for a while even if the movie just started.

So many scenes stands as iconic for me and picking a favorite would be nearly impossible… it would be much easier to flip a coin, which I would if only the movie itself didn’t already have the perfect scene for that. The gas station coin sequence is one of my favorite scenes of all time. The Coens are in complete control guided by two great performances. The Coens are so particular and so precise and I love everything about that. Even just the sound used for the paper on the counter as it expands slowly is perfection.

I could write about this movie until old age, but honestly, the film speaks for itself. It’s a masterwork and I’m glad to have represented it here on MoFo for as long as I’ve been a member. Perhaps I’ve secretly sown some seeds into the subconscious minds of unknowing MoFos from the very beginning. Whatever the case might be, I’m glad to see it finish at number one on the countdown.

To finish off, I would like to end with a quote. Or a note. More like a thought perhaps. Maybe a memory. Or just a dream…

I had dreams… two of ’em. Both had this movie in ’em. It’s peculiar. I’m older now than I was when I first discovered the film. So, in a sense, I’ve become wiser. Anyway, the first one I don’t remember too well but, it was about being in town somewhere and buying a copy with my own money. I think I lost it. The second one, it was like I was back further in older times and I was on my couch watching the film one night. Goin’ through this amazing experience again. It was warm and there was a fire going in the wood stove and the time just flew by as the film passed through all other favorites in my mind and just kept on goin’. It was like it didn’t have to try as it was goin’ by – it just rode past ‘em all. I had my blanket wrapped around me and my head up. Completely focused. When the runtime had past and the movie was over, there was a fire going in my mind. A burning sensation and I could sense the light inside - about the color of the desert in golden hour. And in the dream I knew that this movie was going on ahead and fixin’ its place as a favorite somewhere in there within that burning light and all that warmth. And I knew that whenever my mind caught up with it, it’d be there. As my number one movie of all time. And then I woke up…

… woke up only to see that all was true. Several years later and it’s still my favorite film. And it’s also favorited enough here to be crowned king and placed on top of all films of the 2000s.

What a day, what a movie… Guess that calls for a celebration with a glass of cold milk.

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Citizen Rules

01-28-22, 12:50 PM

I haven't seen No Country for Old Men, so congrats on #1 I guess? It must be great it's number 1 right!:p

I have seen #2 the LoTR movie
https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2277724#post2277724

Citizen Rules

01-28-22, 12:52 PM

Fantastic job hosting Thief! Deeply appreciate the effort you put into this for all of our benefits!:) You made it fun!

Hey Fredrick

01-28-22, 12:53 PM

The only one of my DNP's that I thought had a chance was A History of Violence. The rest I figured were hopeless.

My DNP's:

3. Black Hawk Down (2001)
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6. A History of Violence (2005)
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9. Valhalla Rising (2009)
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16. The Triplets of Belleville (2003)
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17. The Hangover (2009)
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19. Frailty (2001)
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20. United 93 (2006)
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My Top 25

1. Memento (2000) #11
2. Sin City (2005) #47
3. Black Hawk Down (2001)DNP
4. Pan's Labyrinth (2006) #7
5. Snatch (2000) #71
6. A History of Violence (2005) DNP
7. Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003) #14
8. WALL·E (2008) #13
9. Valhalla Rising (2009) DNP
10. Spirited Away (2001) #5
11. Requiem for a Dream (2000) #26
12. Moon (2009) #48
13. Batman Begins (2005) #60
14. The Descent (2005) #80
15. Mystic River (2003) #65
16. The Triplets of Belleville (2003) DNP
17. The Hangover (2009) DNP
18. Oldboy (2003) #22
19. Frailty(2001) DNP
20. United 93(2006) DNP
21. Sunshine (2007) #88
22. Catch Me If You Can (2002) #72
23. There Will Be Blood (2007) #3
24. The Aviator (2004) #106
25. Little Miss Sunshine (2006) #102

Great job hosting, Thief!

Deschain

01-28-22, 12:53 PM

Both made my list.

I can nitpick the other two LOTR but can’t find anything wrong with Fellowship. And on a personal note I prefer the small band of heroes on a journey in Fellowship to the bigger cast, larger scope, epic battles of the other two.

You could pick almost any Coen Bros. movie and make a case for why it’s their best, which just goes to show you how strong their filmography is. But for me it’s a tossup between No Country and Big Lebowski.

Great job Thief. Thanks to you and Yoda and everyone else involved! This was a delight to catch up on every day.

MovieMeditation

01-28-22, 01:03 PM

Oh yeah, of course…. Thief. You stole the show like no one else could have done. What an achievement. Thanks for the hard work, friendo.

KeyserCorleone

01-28-22, 01:04 PM

Damn it, my number one was one off. Eh, I voted for both of them, anyway...

Sent-In Ballot

1. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2)
2. Oldboy (22)
3. Sin City (47)
4. Spirited Away (5)
5. Requiem for a Dream (26)
6. Memento (11)
7. Yi Yi (49)
8. The Departed (19)
9. The Dark Knight (10)
10. Casino Royale (37)
11. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (6)
12. Saw (2004)
13. Million Dollar Baby (2004)
14. No Country for Old Men (2007)
15. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000)
16. Let the Right One In (2008)
17. Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance (2002)
18. Mulholland Drive (2001)
19. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)
20. Iron Man (2008)
21. Inglourious Basterds (2009)
22. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003)
23. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004)
24. X2: X-Men United (2003)
25. Hot Fuzz (2007)

Post-Ballot

#1. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2)
#2. Oldboy (22)
#3. Sin City (47)
#4. Spirited Away (5)
#5. Requiem for a Dream (26)
#6. Memento (11)
#7. Yi Yi (49)
#8. The Departed (19)
#9. The Dark Knight (10)
#10. Casino Royale (37)
#11. Eternal Sunshine (6)
#12. Snatch (71)
#13. Saw (Not Placed)
#14. Million Dollar Baby (57)
#15. No Country for Old Men (1)
#16. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (53)
#17. Let the Right One In (29)
#18. Slumdog Millionaire (Not Placed)
#19. Monsters, Inc. (74)
#20. Mulholland Drive (4)
#21. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (8)
#22. Iron Man (83)
#23. Fantastic Mr. Fox (70)
#24. Inglourious Basterds (18)
#25. Pirates of the Caribbean (63)

Seen 62/100

John W Constantine

01-28-22, 01:05 PM

MoFo - 2000 - final ballot

1. Watchmen (2009)
2. Zodiac (2007)
3. Casino Royale (2006)
4. The Prestige (2006)
5. Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker (2000)
6. Memento (2000)
7. The New World (2005)
8. Where the Wild Things Are (2009)
9. LotR: The Return of the King (2003)
10. A Serious Man (2009)
11. Before Sunset (2004)
12. Cowboy Bebop: The Movie (2001)
13. Batman Begins (2005)
14. No Country for Old Men (2007)
15. The Devil’s Backbone (2001)
16. Pan’s Labyrinth (2006)
17. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008)
18. A Scanner Darkly (2006)
19. The Darjeeling Limited (2007)
20. Eastern Promises (2007)
21. The Majestic (2001)
22. Surrogates (2009)
23. The Mist (2007)
24. Up (2009)
25. Crank: High Voltage (2009)

KeyserCorleone

01-28-22, 01:10 PM

CosmicRunaway

01-28-22, 01:15 PM

When Return of the King made the Countdown a few days ago, I didn't state exactly where it was on my list, because with The Two Towers taking up my #2 slot, revealing that RotK was my #3 would've been a dead giveaway that Fellowship was at the very top of my list.

Yes, I gave the Lord of the Rings trilogy 72 points, and I think it deserves every single one of them.

The Fellowship of the Ring was the first film I ever watched twice during its initial theatrical run. I had never read a single thing that Tolkien had written, but to see this world and its characters so beautifully realized left a huge impression on me. I loved absolutely everything about the film at the time, and over the years, the more I learned about how it was made, the more impressed I became.

20 years later I still haven't read the books, but I do have a tattoo of the Tree of Gondor on my forearm.

Seen: 65/100

My List:
01. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) - #2
02. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) - #15
03. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) - #8
04. Tokyo Godfathers (2003) - DNP
05. The Lives of Others (2006) - #41
06. Millennium Actress (2001) - DNP
07. Goodbye Lenin! (2003) - DNP
08. Mother (2009) - #96
09. Shaun of the Dead (2004) - #20
10. Iron Man (2008) - #83
11. Paprika (2006) - #64
12. Memories of Murder (2003) - #27
13. Ju-on: The Grudge (2002) - DNP
14. Saw (2004) - DNP
15. A Tale of Two Sisters (2003) - DNP
16. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (2005) - #76
17. Hot Fuzz (2007) - #30
18. District B13 (2004) - DNP
19. Tropic Thunder (2008) - DNP
20. Moon (2009) - #48
21. Merantau (2009) - DNP
22. Infernal Affairs (2002) - DNP
23. Equilibrium (2002) - DNP
24. Cowboy Bebop: The Movie (2001) - DNP
25. Bon Cop, Bad Cop (2006) - 1-pointer

Still Salty About Forgetting: The Descent (2005)

Of the films on my list that didn't make the cut (that I haven't touched on already), there are a couple of horror films clumped right together in the middle of my ballot, with one comedy following not far behind, and the film The Departed was based on towards the end.

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13. Ju-on: The Grudge (2002)

Do I keep getting Ju-on and Ju-on 2 mixed up? Yes. Am I entirely sure which film the gif I've chosen came from? No. Did that stop me from voting for the film that introduced me to j-horror anyway? Clearly not.

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14. Saw (2004)

While I don't like any of Saw's sequels, the original was an experience that was quite unforgettable. I haven't revisited the film in a long time, but I'll never forget the sounds of shock and awe at the twist ending from the packed small town theatre I saw it in.

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15. A Tale of Two Sisters (2003)

Of the film I voted for that didn't make the Countdown, this is actually the one I'm most surprised about. For years before I saw this film, I had heard nothing but praise for it. However more recently it doesn't seem to get talked about as much. Psychological horror has always been a favourite of mine, so I had to include this.

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19. Tropic Thunder (2008)

This is a film that got funnier each time I watched it. Friends and I still quote lines from it all the time. It's a fun parody and a solid action film on its own. The fake trailers at the start set the perfect mood for the events that follow. Just thinking about it makes me want to watch it again.

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22. Infernal Affairs (2002)

I recently rewatched a few of Tony Leung's films, with Infernal Affairs being one of them. It took a long time to track down because I was somehow convinced the title was Internal Affairs. I nearly gave up, but luckily a last minute google search saved the day. I haven't seen any of the sequels though. I may or may not have already said something about this when The Departed made the Countdown earlier, so I'll stop here.

If anyone has made it this far into my post, thanks for sticking around even though I didn't have much to say. But more importantly: thank you Thief for running this Countdown! You did a fantastic job, and all the little bits of trivia you posted between reveals was great. :up:

Thief

01-28-22, 01:33 PM

Second the quotes from a critic/mofo comment. Even on days I couldn’t read anything, I still checked out those. Despite me having to wince at some of my old reviews all over again.

:laugh: It was interesting to read old reviews from some of you that didn't quite match to how I read you thought about X or Y film now. It's evidence of how our views on films (and books, music, art, etc.) can change and evolve with time, and things that we appreciated then are just forgotten now, or things that we didn't care then end up having deeper meanings now.

seanc

01-28-22, 01:37 PM

:laugh: It was interesting to read old reviews from some of you that didn't quite match to how I read you thought about X or Y film now. It's evidence of how our views on films (and books, music, art, etc.) can change and evolve with time, and things that we appreciated then are just forgotten now, or things that we didn't care then end up having deeper meanings now.

For sure, but also, my writing is jibberish. So even when I stand behind the sentiment I still wince. :D

Captain Terror

01-28-22, 01:41 PM

ScarletLion

01-28-22, 01:49 PM

2. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (616 points) - Yeah just don't get it.
1. No Country for Old Men (651 points) - Good film, very good film. Not in my 25 but not unhappy this was the #1 as it's so well made.

I don't think any of the top 10 were in my ballot. Which is suprising, or maybe not, I dunno.

My ballot from 1 to 25:

In the Mood for Love

The Lives of Others

The White Ribbon

Failan

Werckmeister Harmonies

Adaptation.

Dancer in the Dark

Enter the Void

The Secret in Their Eyes

Nobody Knows

The Man Who Wasn't There

Amores Perros

Oldboy

Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring

Y Tu Mamá También

The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford

Oasis

Russian Ark

Lilya 4-ever

The Return

Memories of Murder

The Diving Bell and the Butterfly

Talk to Her

Precious

Wendy and Lucy

ScarletLion

01-28-22, 01:51 PM

I'd just like to say Thief has done an amazing job and worked so hard to make this thing a thing, so thanks!

Wyldesyde19

01-28-22, 01:52 PM

Great job, Thief. As others have you said, you were able to provide a fresh way of keeping this countdown interesting. Take a bow.

My ballot:

1. Brokeback Mountain (2005)
2. The Royal Tenenbaums (2001)
3. WALL·E (2008)
4. Polytechnique (2009)
5. Lost in Translation (2003)
6. The Dark Knight (2008)
7. Quills (2000)
8. Finding Nemo (2003)
9. Mulholland Drive (2001)
10. An Inconvenient Truth (2006)
11. You Can Count on Me (2000)
12. The Contender (2000)
13. Syriana (2005)
14. Good Night, and Good Luck. (2005)
15. Oldboy (2003)
16. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring (2003)
17. Batman Begins (2005)
18. Slumdog Millionaire (2008)
19. Once (2007)
20. Snatch (2000)
21. Grizzly Man (2005)
22. The Incredibles (2004)
23. Y tu mamá también (2001)
24. Malena (2000)
25. Lust, Caution (2007)

I’m disappointed at the lack of documentaries, as I had two (Grizzly Man and An Inconvenient Truth), but I could have easily included Murderball, as well. *

Polytechnique is probably the one film I felt shouldn’t have missed the countdown. Perhaps that’s because so few have watched it? *

Good Night and Good luck, The Contender and You Can Count on Me are also disappointing in their failure to make the list. **

Overall, it’s a good list. *👍

mrblond

01-28-22, 01:54 PM

It was very interesting and enjoyable Thief ! :up:

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Thief

01-28-22, 02:16 PM

John W Constantine

01-28-22, 02:19 PM

Will a spreadsheet be available for point totals outside the top 100? or maybe just a list of the next 50-100 movies....

Chypmunk

01-28-22, 02:20 PM

The Sorcerer's Stone got pulled off the subs bench for #36 so at least the Faildictions program represented the HP series ;)

mrblond

01-28-22, 02:36 PM

Will a spreadsheet be available for point totals outside the top 100? or maybe just a list of the next 50-100 movies....

Would be very nice...

crumbsroom

01-28-22, 02:36 PM

ZODIAC: I adore this movie, and I say that as someone who pretty much always gets aggravated by the film with every watch. As it just keeps scratching deeper and deeper, the more and more we are aware there can't be any resolution. The excitement that once greeted the discovery of every coincidence or clue or conspiracy, has now become an agrieved sense of despair as these characters lives just disappear into a place where all that is left for them are fragments left behind by a man who can neither be found or understood. Enjoyment isn't really the point anymore as we struggle to the end of the film. The buzz of mystery and suspense and intrigue and rock and roll and gleaming 70's nostalgia has worn off. We are stuck in a perpetual look of disappointment. And as the end of the film nears, there is a dread over wasted time. Fincher articulates the many perils of obsession so well, we in the audience also feel we have lost years from our life at the conclusion. Great stuff, as the first half is just so satisfying as a straight up suspense film, and the remainder plays as almost a cruel meta joke on those of us who get off on these true crime tails. Easily Fincher's best.

RETURN OF THE KING: I know this is the one from the trilogy that I enjoyed the most, from start to finish. All the fake endings drove me nuts, but other than this, I remember feeling this was a perfect blend of character, spectacle, emotion adventure and action. Where I felt the other two bungled this mix a bit.

PAN'S LABYRINTH: I used to work in a children's book store, and there used to be a specific picture book illustrator that my co-worker hated to such a point that she said 'looking at her drawings makes me not hungry'. Considering the only thing on earth she seemed to care about was what her lunch that day was, it was a serious diss. And there is something about the look of Del Toro's films that make me 'not hungry'. I can't place exactly where this lies, but his fantastical characters always look like they should be in a movie I would hate. Like Nightbreed. Or Basketcase 2. So I have a bias against the guys work on a kind of primal level. That said,he's clearly a talented guy, with a unique vision, and I can't imagine this is his best. Others have already mentioned the tie between the fairy tale violence we placate ourselves with, and the real violence we need to escape from, so I won't get into that. But this is an ideal premise for anything by Del Toro. Very good, even if not entirely for me (I definitely should give it a rewatch at some point though)

ETERNAL SUNSHINE: Few movies have ever fused their seemingly limitless visual and conceptual imagination so well with the structure and purpose of the actual film. Flittering through Carey's memories as they are slowly erased, is full of a deep melancholy due to his reasons for deleting them, but never stops being a total cinematic joy as Gondry uses this as an excuse to break open the possibilities of film as a visual art form. It is a film that works on complete instinct, confidently blasting along from scene to scene, even as the scenes begin to make less and less sense narratively, and seem to be mostly connected by some emotional logic. It's a brilliant film that really can't have enough good things said about it. I didn't include it on my list though, simply because Gondry kind of lost his mojo after this, and I now associate him with the weakest kinds of whimsy. This doesn't make Sunshine any less of a great movie, of course, but it did bias me just enough to have it just miss my list.

SPIRITED AWAY: any movie that succesfully adopts the kind of dream logic odyssey that Lewis Carroll perfected with Alice in Wonderland is going to be a winner in my book. I love movies that give me indelible images that live with me forever, and Spirited Away has these in spades. It is the best think Miyazaki has done besides Totoro, which is high praises, as you can probably argue that most of his films are masterpieces. Didn't make my list though. I think I forgot about it.

MULHOLLAND DRIVE: I personally think this is a middle of the pack Lynch....so still one of the best movies of the last thirty years. No one understands the link between the grotesque, the terrifying, the funny and the outright stupid as well as Lynch. No one. And his reimagining of a very old Hollywood tale, just loosely enough that he can manipulate the reality that surrounds this fairly conventional story into a landscape we hardly recognize by its end. Deserving of its stature. Maybe one of these days though, the general public will allow the almost completely impenetrable Inland Empire into the public consciousness. Then I will really believe that the human race is starting to evolve into something better.

THERE WILL BE BLOOD: Outside of the scenes that bookend this film, I remember almost nothing in between. But this film was so impactful to me when I watched it years ago, it made my list anyways. I know there is good stuff in the middle too. I can feel it under my skin. But as to any particulars that I can comment on, its completely ghosted me. But, man, that opening! That ending! Do modern films get better? PT Anderson is the greatest working American filmmaker these days. And this is one of his best (whatever it is)

FELLOWSHIP: Why version of this movie is they don't go anywhere and just stay in Hobbitville. There was never really any way of topping the beginning of this film for me. It's perfect. Like, literally perfect. And then there is a great chase scene with those things on the horses. For a moment I did deceive myself into thinking it could get better.....And then......elves................and an aggravatingly endless and (honestly) fairly bland epic battle that goes on for....an hour?......a month?.....is it still going on?.........somehow at the end of Return of the King a thought it might slip back into this concluding fight and I'd never escape it.....I hate the last half of this movie. Which is such a shame because that first hour or so is just so unbelievably good.

NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN: Great movie!

crumbsroom

01-28-22, 02:38 PM

My embarrassingly terrible list that I made in about ten minutes.

24 Hour Party People

Kill Bill Vol 1

Kill Bill Vol 2

Lake Mungo

Synechode New York

No Country for Old Men

Zodiac

Adventureland

Mulholland Drive

Requiem for a Dream

There Will Be Blood

Downfall

Almost Famous

Waking Life

Let the Right One In

Triplets of Belleville

White Ribbon

Erin Brockovich

Dancer in the Dark

Amelie

FUBAR

American Psycho

Marie Antoinette

Movern Callar

Swimming Pool

Iroquois

01-28-22, 03:05 PM

Little bit surprised that Harry Potter was completely shut out. (6 eligible films)
I wonder if that would be the case if our membership skewed a bit younger.

I certainly didn't vote for any, can't even remember which ones I've seen. But it was obviously a pretty big deal, culturally speaking.

(Star Wars and Twilight both had 2 eligible films each, but it's less surprising that those didn't make it)

I think there are a few factors. Having six eligible films is liable to split the vote a bit, but I never really thought of Harry Potter as a franchise with particularly strong individual installments. Out of those six, I reckon Prisoner of Azkaban is the closest it gets to having a consensus pick for the best, and even then I have to wonder how much it really holds up as its own thing (contrast that against Spider-Man 2, which managed to crack the list while the original didn't). Granted, it has Cuaron infusing the franchise with a more mature personality that initially helped it to stand out from its predecessors, but then its sequels started copying it and ended up making it seem more homogeneous in retrospect.

ueno_station54

01-28-22, 03:10 PM

even i voted for No Country lol. one of the two actually effective thrillers ever made (sh*t genre). was always under the impression people thought TWBB got screwed at the oscar's that year but i guess perception has changed.

Thief

01-28-22, 03:14 PM

Before I officially bow down, I'm gonna give some love to my picks that didn't make it...

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5. Conspiracy (2001) Most people that know me know that I adore this film. It follows the events of the Wannsee Conference, held by a group of high-ranking Nazis during World War II, to ensure their cooperation on the "Final Solution" and delineate some logistics about the "program". However, the meeting was primarily a power play by Reinhard Heydrich (played by Kenneth Branagh) as he attempted to consolidate support and power from the party. Sure, it's just a bunch of guys sitting at a table and talking, but there's something chilling about seeing these men discuss the extermination of millions while munching hors d'oeuvres. Solid cast that includes Stanley Tucci and Colin Firth. Here's something I wrote (https://hubpages.com/entertainment/Conspiracy-The-Banality-of-Evil) about it a while ago.

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8. Syriana (2005) A superbly acted film with a labyrinthine plot of corruption and deception, split in multiple converging storylines. Executives in an oil company merger, a CIA operative, a TV economist, a Saudi prince, and two young Pakistani immigrants recruited by extremists. This is one that always amazes me but also makes me shake my head at the realities that it shows us about the multiple ripple effects among seemingly unrelated events. The cast, which includes George Clooney, Chris Cooper, Jeffrey Wright, Matt Damon, Alexander Siddig, Christopher Plummer, and many, many others is superb. Love it.

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14. The Road (2009) A dystopian, post-apocalyptic film unlike most, it follows a man (Viggo Mortensen) and his son (Kodi Smith-McPhee) as they take the road to flee the upcoming winter. The film has little dialogue but rather relies on visuals of the desolate landscapes or the broken-down characters to convey the harshness of their reality. Bleak, depressing, but perfectly made. Here's something I wrote about it (https://discover.hubpages.com/entertainment/The-Road-Carrying-the-Fire) a while ago. It also features Robert Duvall and Michael K. Williams in brief roles.

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15. The Village (2004) Most people that know me know about my love for this Shyamalan film. This was the first time that he really surprised me. The way he builds atmosphere and dread and mystery, only to deconstruct his own tropes of the supernatural, I thought was excellent. Here is another article (https://discover.hubpages.com/entertainment/The-Village-How-M-Night-Shyamalan-finally-surprised-me) I wrote a while ago about it, but to me, it has only improved with subsequent viewings. Great cast with Bryce Dallas Howard, William Hurt, and Joaquin Phoenix.

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16. Moulin Rouge! (2000) An explosion of color and music and frenzy unlike any other I've seen! Baz Luhrmann goes all in with a frenetic direction that invades every sense. Following the tragic story of a young writer (Ewan McGregor) that falls in love with Satine (Nicole Kidman), a cabaret performer. The highlight might be the direction and all the huzzpah, but at the core there's a moving story anchored by great performances from the two leads. Not only that, but the way that Luhrmann cleverly integrates current music into its period timeframe, I thought was genius. Arguably my favorite musical of all time.

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17. Once (2007) And speaking of musicals, here is another one that I absolutely adore. Following two struggling musicians (Glen Hansard and Markéta Irglová), the film uses their growing relationship to create an emotional core that feels real and organic, and that also gives birth to one of my favorite soundtracks ever. Pretty much every song here is perfectly performed, but also emotionally charged. Easily on my Top 5 romantic films ever.

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18. Paradise Now (2005) This is another one I babble on about quite often. The film follows two Palestinians as they prepare for a suicide attack in Israel. I remember I saw this in theaters back then and I was mesmerized by it. It's a film I haven't managed to shake off. Really powerful and thought-provoking, and one that I'm often surprised that I don't see mentioned more often, as far as foreign films go. Love it.

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19. Road to Perdition (2002) Back in the day, mMuch was said about Tom Hanks playing "a killer", but let's be honest, he's "a killer" pit against worst "killers", so there's really not much difference. But putting those expectations aside, this is a great story about the consequences of our actions and the opportunity for redemption. It is a nice turn from pretty much everyone involved. Especially seeing a neat, early turn for Daniel Craig before he became Bond, and obviously Paul Newman's final performance. Add to that, Mendes directing and Conrad Hall flawless cinematography. This is yet another one I wrote about back in the day (click here (https://hubpages.com/entertainment/Road-to-Perdition-No-turn-around)) and one that I've come to appreciate more and more with time.

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22. (500) Days of Summer (2009) Probably my second favorite romcom. The film follows the relationship between Tom and Summer (Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Zooey Deschanel) as it grows and evolve. I love how unconventional the film is in its narrative and the way the story eventually unfolds, but all that is built on the excellent performances from JGL and Deschanel. Marc Webb does a great job adding some flair to the directing, but it all goes back to our two leads and they deliver.

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24. Bridge to Terabithia (2007) And speaking of Deschanel, here is another one from her. This one follows Jesse (Josh Hutcherson), a bullied kid that has to push aside his artistic dreams because of the financial struggles at home. This changes when he meets new neighbor Leslie (AnnaSophia Robb), as their friendship helps them both grow. This is a film that straddles that fine line between being heart-warming and touching, with harsh drama and realism. One of those that always gets to me, no matter how many times I've seen it. Here's something I wrote (https://hubpages.com/entertainment/Bridge-to-Terabithia-Eyes-closed-mind-wide-open) back in the day.

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25. Bamboozled (2000) I could've sworn I would be the only one to vote for this, so I was sure it would made the One-Pointers, but for better or worse, someone else got it. This is a film that has stuck with me ever since I saw it. It follows Pierre Delacroix (Damon Wayans), an African-American producer that develops a minstrel show with black actors *with blackface* with the intention of being fired. However, when the show becomes an unsuspecting hit, things change for everyone involved. Directed and written by Spike Lee, you know this is going to be a sharply written satire. If you're like me, the statements he makes about the representations of African-Americans in media are surely to stick with you.

Thief

01-28-22, 03:15 PM

That's all from me! A lot of thanks to the MoFo crowd for bringing up my name to host this, and thanks to everybody for the kind words all through the day. I hope I did good, but even if I didn't, it was a pleasure and a lot of fun. Thanks to Yoda for all the backstage help, and to Holden Pike for the always timely and much needed stats and updates regarding previous lists.

And obviously, thanks to everybody that voted, commented, bickered, whined (talking to you, rauldc14 :laugh: ), and celebrated all through the thread. Apologies for anything I might've messed up or if I offended anyone. Nevertheless, I look forward to doing this again... just not for a while :D

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Deschain

01-28-22, 03:16 PM

FELLOWSHIP: Why version of this movie is they don't go anywhere and just stay in Hobbitville. There was never really any way of topping the beginning of this film for me. It's perfect. Like, literally perfect. And then there is a great chase scene with those things on the horses. For a moment I did deceive myself into thinking it could get better.....And then......elves................and an aggravatingly endless and (honestly) fairly bland epic battle that goes on for....an hour?......a month?.....is it still going on?.........somehow at the end of Return of the King a thought it might slip back into this concluding fight and I'd never escape it.....I hate the last half of this movie. Which is such a shame because that first hour or so is just so unbelievably good.

NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN: Great movie!

I’m not being sarcastic or flippant, I’m genuinely asking for some clarification. You’re saying there’s a big epic battle at the end of Fellowship? Are you referring to the skirmish on the banks of the river? Because I thought that was pretty small and short. I only saw the EE once, did they add more to that or something that I don’t remember?

Captain Terror

01-28-22, 03:17 PM

I think there are a few factors. Having six eligible films is liable to split the vote a bit, but I never really thought of Harry Potter as a franchise with particularly strong individual installments. Out of those six, I reckon Prisoner of Azkaban is the closest it gets to having a consensus pick for the best, and even then I have to wonder how much it really holds up as its own thing (contrast that against Spider-Man 2, which managed to crack the list while the original didn't). Granted, it has Cuaron infusing the franchise with a more mature personality that initially helped it to stand out from its predecessors, but then its sequels started copying it and ended up making it seem more homogeneous in retrospect.

I completely agree, I only mentioned it because the series was such A BIG DEAL for so many people (again, from a no-doubt-younger demographic than we have here.) But in my world there's not a big difference (in quality) between Potter and the Pirates franchise. Given the much bigger fandom that surrounds Potter, it was just a surprise that the PotC film ranked so highly instead.

Not a complaint, certainly. I've no horse in the race. Just something that occurred to me.

crumbsroom

01-28-22, 03:35 PM

I’m not being sarcastic or flippant, I’m genuinely asking for some clarification. You’re saying there’s a big epic battle at the end of Fellowship? Are you referring to the skirmish on the banks of the river? Because I thought that was pretty small and short. I only saw the EE once, did they add more to that or something that I don’t remember?

I think the battle on the river bank is probably the only part that would technically qualify as a 'battle'...but there is just a very long stretch of fighting and running and fighting and running that goes on after that (and I believe before it as well), and I just found all of that action pretty uninteresting.

And one only needs to look at the battle in Two Towers as to how to make such a thing consistently engaging. And it was probably significantly longer.

Iroquois

01-28-22, 03:35 PM

Yeah, I never questioned its absence for the same reason I didn't ask where Twilight or Transformers were. I do have to wonder how many people voted for Potter films (if any), then which ones and for how much. You might be right about it being an age thing - I was in the target demographic when the first few films dropped but I simply aged out of them before I left high school. Also, this being a movie forum, I think there's a good chance of people simply acknowledging that there are so many better movies out there (even PotC, which I reckon is at least a moderately competent blockbuster that has enough personality and craft to make it stand out on its own, even if it's not necessarily great).

mrblond

01-28-22, 03:35 PM

• My Stats
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Top 100 seen 60/100.
(seen one pointers 3/38 • seen 101-110: 5/10)
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1. Babel (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/1164-babel.html)
2. Vicky Cristina Barcelona (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/5038-vicky-cristina-barcelona.html)
3. Amélie [#16.]
4. Snatch [#71.]
5. The Royal Tenenbaums [#35.]
6. Billy Elliot (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/71-billy-elliot.html)
7. About Schmidt (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/2755-about-schmidt.html)
8. Sideways [#39.]
9. Amores perros [#81.]
10. The Wrestler [#54.]

11. Whatever Works (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/19265-whatever-works.html)
12. The Pianist [#31.]
13. The Consequences of Love (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/24653-the-consequences-of-love.html)
14. The Man Who Wasn't There [#84.]
15. Love Actually (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/508-love-actually.html)
16. In the Mood for Love [#12.]
17. Last Orders (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/14778-last-orders.html)
18. The Queen (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/1165-the-queen.html)
19. Kill Bill: Vol. 1 [#14.]
20. The Curse of the Jade Scorpion (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/2779-the-curse-of-the-jade-scorpion.html)

21. Charlie Wilson's War (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/6538-charlie-wilsons-war.html)
22. Peculiarities of the National Hunt in the Winter (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/20883-peculiarities-of-the-national-hunt-in-the-winter.html)
23. The Terminal (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/594-the-terminal.html)
24. WALL·E [#13.]
25. There Will Be Blood [#3.]
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Werckmeister Harmonies [#97]
Pride & Prejudice [#93]
Caché [#85]
American Psycho [#79]
Battle Royale [#77]
Catch Me If You Can [#72]
Fantastic Mr. Fox [#70]
A Serious Man [#66]
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Dancer in the Dark [#49]
Adaptation. [#43]
Before Sunset [#42]
Casino Royale [#37]
Lost in Translation [#32]
Requiem for a Dream [#26]
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Thief

01-28-22, 03:37 PM

Pretty criminal that Gran Torino didn't make it. State of Play I had to be the only voter but I love it
I assume Hangover got some more points. Gone Baby Gone seems to remain criminally underway he's. Made the millennium list but no dice here.

I liked Gran Torino quite a bit, but I would probably put Letters of Iwo Jima, Flags of Our Fathers, and Mystic River above it.

Gone Baby Gone is one that if I had rewatched, might've sneaked in my list. I remember liking it a lot, but it's been a while.

The Hangover was pretty bad. I'm sorry :laugh:

donniedarko

01-28-22, 03:39 PM

I’d give all three of the top 3 a 3.5 , but the best film won. Happy to see , I’ll post my list later today

Captain Terror

01-28-22, 03:39 PM

Thief

01-28-22, 03:40 PM

Seen: 55/100

14. The Proposition (2005)
23. [REC] (2007)

These were two I strongly considered for my list. I cut REC fairly early, but The Proposition was a late cut that hurt a bit.

crumbsroom

01-28-22, 03:42 PM

25. Bamboozled (2000) I could've sworn I would be the only one to vote for this, so I was sure it would made the One-Pointers, but for better or worse, someone else got it.

I would wager the other person would have to be Jinnistan.

It would never have made my list, but I think it is a top 5 film by Lee (a director I have a real love/hate relationship with...I love his boldness, I love his perspective, I love his obvious talent, but I also think about half of his films get heavy handed to the point that they play like parodies of themselves). When he's good though, he's real good. And even in his worst films, he always has a few moments that sparkle. And Bamboozled has more sparkle than most.

Thief

01-28-22, 03:43 PM

3. The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call - New Orleans (2009)
4. Femme Fatale (2002)

These are two interesting choices. Bad Lieutenant is a bizarre film, but one that I enjoyed a lot nonetheless. Femme Fatale I remember liking a looot, but I haven't seen in more than 15 years. I need to revisit it, because I used to rank it fairly high in my De Palma ranking.

Thief

01-28-22, 03:47 PM

Full ballot revealed with comments. Faired better than I imagined considering no animation, nor comic book fodder. Three films that saddened me for not making the cut "United 93" , "The Road", "Best in Show". What's wrong with you people! You all on dope!

Also three that I highly recommend " Hard Candy, "The Girl Next Door", " Sherrybaby". Actually see them all!

6. Best in Show
11. Hard Candy
12. The Last King of Scotland
14. The Road
18. United 93
20. Black Snake Moan
21. The Girl Next Door
22. Sherrybaby
23. Before the Devil Knows Your Dead

I love The Road as you can see from one of my previous posts. I really thought it would make the backend of the list, maybe in the 90-100, but well.

Best in Show and Before the Devil Knows You're Dead are two films I remember loving a lot, but it's been a while since I last saw them, so I thought it wouldn't be fair to put them in.

I had United 93 on my short list, but cut it in the process.

crumbsroom

01-28-22, 03:49 PM

Best in Show was on my shortlist.

SpelingError

01-28-22, 03:51 PM

Excellent job Thief, btw!

Thief

01-28-22, 03:51 PM

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Ghost World was my #18, an exercise in adapting the cult comic book about two disaffected teenage girls as they dealt with the immediate aftermath of graduating high school and having to deal with what happens next - one does what she can to fight against the possibility of conforming while the other gradually acquiesces to the opportunity for stability. Throw in a middle-aged jazz obsessive to further complicate things and you have an indie dramedy that feels more genuine in its efforts to deal with the arrested development behind youthful cynicism than something superficially similar like, say, Reality Bites.

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Grizzly Man was my #24. Considering the complete absence of documentaries on this list - after all, how many of them do prove to be genuine favourites? - it is hard not to see this as something of a wasted vote (though who knows what those two points should've gone to instead). Still, Herzog is one of my favourite directors and this still stands out as one of his quintessential films so I felt it was worth a nod, even though its bizarre and tragic subject matter - eccentric environmentalist Timothy Treadwell and his ill-fated mission to live in close proximity to a group of grizzly bears, recording his exploits on video the whole time - does not make it an enjoyable viewing experience.

I remember being a HUUUUUGE fan of Ghost World, but it's another one I haven't seen in ages. The three leads were superb, I remember. I should rewatch that at some point.

Grizzly Man I just saw a couple of months ago. Really liked it, but didn't include it. I did talk a bit about it for a podcast I guested in. The host was a fan and he recommended it to me.

Thief

01-28-22, 03:53 PM

My ballot:

2. Chicago (2002)
3. Mean Girls (2004)
10. The Bourne Identity (2002)
11. The Bourne Supremacy (2004)

These were also surprising snubs. I thought they would make it in the backend.

Thief

01-28-22, 03:56 PM

6. A History of Violence (2005)
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This was another very last cut from me. Great film and probably my favorite Cronenberg.

Thief

01-28-22, 04:00 PM

I’m disappointed at the lack of documentaries, as I had two (Grizzly Man and An Inconvenient Truth), but I could have easily included Murderball, as well. *

Polytechnique is probably the one film I felt shouldn’t have missed the countdown. Perhaps that’s because so few have watched it? *

Good Night and Good luck, The Contender and You Can Count on Me are also disappointing in their failure to make the list. **

Overall, it’s a good list. *👍

Re: documentaries, even though I didn't have any on my list, I agree. I could've had a couple on my list.

Re: Polytechnique, that was another on my short list that got cut in the process. Still, even though I know it has its share of fans here, I don't think it's a film that enough people have seen to make it.

The Contender and You Can Count on Me are films I remember liking a lot, but haven't seen in almost 20 years.

pahaK

01-28-22, 04:05 PM

This was another very last cut from me. Great film and probably my favorite Cronenberg.

I had A History of Violence and Eastern Promises on a list I planned to rewatch. Never happened, so I ended up cutting them. Based on memory, Eastern Promises was the harder cut.

Thief

01-28-22, 04:12 PM

I'm sure Yoda can answer about the spreadsheet, but in the meantime, some that people have brought up...

104. Chicago
108. Gran Torino
111. You Can Count on Me
113. Talk to Her
125. Mean Girls
126. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring
128. The Hangover
134. Best in Show
137. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
144. The Road
146. Grizzly Man
159. Ghost World
161. The Bourne Identity
166. Good Night, and Good Luck
172. The Bourne Ultimatum
179. A History of Violence
184. Tokyo Godfathers
187. The Bourne Supremacy
188. Valhalla Rising
191. Femme Fatale
274. Polytechnique
278. Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
302. United 93
313. Gone Baby Gone
349. An Incovenient Truth
376. Eastern Promises
380. The Contender
381. Frailty
559. [REC]

Diehl40

01-28-22, 04:18 PM

My Ranking The Final List

1. 6 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
2. 7 Pan's Labyrinth (2006)
3. 10 The Dark Knight (2008)
4. 19 The Departed (2006)
5. 5 Spirited Away (2001)
6. 39 Sideways (2004)
7. 21 O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000)
8. 1 No Country for Old Men (2007)
9. 65 Mystic River (2003)
10. 150 Minority Report (2002)
11. 2 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)
12. 8 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)
13. 15 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002)
14. 11 Memento (2000)
15. 4 Mulholland Drive (2001)
16. 38 The Prestige (2006)
17. 90 Almost Famous (2000)
18. 135 Munich (2005)
19. 473 High Fidelity (2000)
20. 156 Moulin Rouge! (2001)
21. 81 Juno (2007)
22. 60 Batman Begins (2005)
23. 46 Synecdoche, New York (2008)
24. 579 Scotland, PA (2001)
25. 1 Pointer Reefer Madness: The Movie Musical (2006)

Diehl40

01-28-22, 04:21 PM

I was surprised that High Fidelity, Moulin Rouge, and Munich did not make the list

Kaplan

01-28-22, 04:30 PM

First off, great job, Theif!

And No Country for Old Men was my #2, the only film I saw this decade that can possibly rival There Will Be Blood for me, despite it not even being my favorite Coen brothers film overall. Here is my complete list...

My List:
1. There Will Be Blood (#3)
2. No Country for Old Men (#1)
3. Synecdoche, New York (#46)
4. Inglourious Basterds (#18)
5. The Dark Knight (#10)
6. Let the Right One In (#29)
7. Adaptation (#43)
8. Sin City (#47)
9. Dogville (DNP)
10. Read My Lips (DNP)
11. A Scanner Darkly (DNP)
12. No Man’s Land (DNP)
13. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (#53)
14. The Lives of Others (#41)
15. Grizzly Man (DNP)
16. The Royal Tenenbaums (#35)
17. Memento (#11)
18. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (#86)
19. The Incredibles (#36)
20. Lost in Translation (#32)
21. Pan's Labyrinth (#7)
22. The Man Who Wasn’t There (#84)
23. Gomorrah (DNP)
24. Moon (#48)
25. Letters from Iwo Jima (DNP)

Deschain

01-28-22, 04:36 PM

Here was my list. I'll bold the ones that didn't make it. I'm delighted at how many did.

1. Inglourious Basterds
2. American Psycho
3. Shaun of the Dead
4. Fellowship of the Ring
5. Kill Bill Vol. 1
6. No Country for Old Men
7. There Will Be Blood
8. The Incredibles
9. The Descent
10. Apocalypto (An excellent movie for those who haven't seen it. It's directed by Mel Gibson though.)
11. Casino Royale
12. Return of the King
13. Wall-E
14. Napoleon Dynamite (Not surprised as this is so polarizing. It could have gone either way)
15. Ratatouille
16. Kill Bill Vol. 2
17. Battle Royale
18. Adaptation
19. Serenity (I love it but if you're not a Firefly fan I can see it not being a high priority.)
20. The Host (Surprised this didn't make it. Thought it would be a lock.)/B]
21. The Departed
22. [B]Primer (Great sci-fi on a shoestring budget. It's a movie that makes me wanna make movies.)
23. Hot Fuzz
24. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
25. The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters (Probably not the most worthy documentary for the countdown but I'm a big video game guy so of course I love this.)

seanc

01-28-22, 04:45 PM

Apocalypto is a definitely a movie that could have made my list if I had rewatched. I loved it when it was released but haven’t seen it again.

Also, shout out to You can Count on Me. Excellent performances and script. Underrated flick.

kgaard

01-28-22, 04:45 PM

Thief FTW! Well done, sir, thanks for the massive effort.

Both The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (#9) and No Country for Old Men (#23) made my list. Fellowship is (by consensus, apparently) the best of that trilogy, and while No Country is not my favorite Coen Bros. film even from the decade, it's worth its place. Here's what I wrote about it back in the day:

As much as it is about anything, No Country is about fate. Relentless, remorseless fate, sweeping humanity along a "dismal tide." But the film has nothing more to say about fate than that fate is and that free will is probably, at best, an illusion. There are two coin tosses in the film. In one, a man plays the toss, but doesn't know the stakes. In another, a woman, knowing the stakes, refuses to play. Who wins, who loses? Who lives, who dies? Fate decides.

Fate is embodied in Anton Chigurh (Javier Bardem), a relentless, remorseless killer whose quirk is that he disdains ordinary guns for a hydraulic air gun. The breath of death, if you will. More Rutger Hauer's Hitcher than Hannibal Lecter, Chigurh appears from nowhere in west Texas and begins killing and does not stop, and when local Llewelyn Moss (Josh Brolin) stumbles across the two million dollars that survived a drug deal shootout, Chigurh tracks him with a deliberateness that is more fitting to the walking dead than to a live assassin; indeed, by the film's end Chigurh acquires a shuffling gait of which George Romero would be proud.

Did Moss--floating in on the tide--have a choice in his fate? Maybe, but even he doesn't believe it, telling his wife: "Things happen. Can't take 'em back." And once he starts his path is set. He believes, at times, that he can choose his destiny, but over and over it is made clear that he cannot. He's even told it. But he doesn't know it, and he never learns it.

Sheriff Ed Tom Bell (Tommy Lee Jones) has grown old enough--through his own devices, maybe, but probably by chance--to learn it, and he oversees the proceedings with the detachment of one who is unhappy about life's meaninglessness, but who has come to terms with it. Invited to accompany investigative revisits to crime scenes, he demurs, seeing little point in combing over the petty details of life's atrocities. Bell sees the tide coming in, and he'd best prefer not to get wet by it.

There is a cold calculation to the film that I can't help feeling let down by. It is a marvel, in a way, filled with exquisite moments, Coenesque touches, as in the shot of smoky light filtering slowly through a blown-out hole. The tension is incredible, and achieved through exquisite timing. The actors, Jones in particular, are mesmerizing. And at the heart of it all is an empty space.

These are the films from the list I haven't seen: Werckmeister Harmonies, Mother, Caché, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Paprika, The Secret in Their Eyes, Yi Yi.

Finally, here is my full list, with notes for the DNPs:
1. Hedwig and the Angry Inch (2001) (#91)
2. Mulholland Drive (2001) (#4)
3. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) (#6)
4. Before Sunset (2004) (#42)
5. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (2005) (#86)
6. Primer (2004) (DNP) I thought this might make it. Carruth may be a garbage person but his debut film is stellar.
7. You Can Count on Me (2000) (DNP) Another top film that I thought had a chance to sneak in. Lonergan is possibly too low key a filmmaking presence though, with only 3 films (one with an almost invisible release) in the past 20 years.
8. Memento (2000) (#11)
9. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) (#2)
10. Chicago (2002) (DNP) This one finished in 102-110, I think? Anyway, this is just tons of fun.
11. A Serious Man (2009) (#66)
12. Pan's Labyrinth (2006) (#7)
13. Spider-Man 2 (2004) (#61)
14. Ratatouille (2007) (#23)
15. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (2005) (#78)
16. Memories of Murder (2003) (#27)
17. American Splendor (2003) (DNP) Not surprised this didn't make it, but not only is it a fine film, I have a personal fondness for its subject. Back in the '80s when I was a nerdy kid (as opposed to now, when I am a nerdy adult), every summer I would go to the Dallas Fantasy Fair to buy comics and hang out with comic pros as much as they would tolerate. Harvey and Joyce in particular were really kind beyond call or reason to a very awkard teen, and I've always appreciated it.
18. Once (2007) (DNP) Another #102-110, IIRC. No ******** in this one.
19. X2: X-Men United (2003) (DNP) One of my favorite comic book films, slightly better than the first in the series. It's all downhill from here, though!
20. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) (#8)
21. In the Bedroom (2001) (DNP) Longeran looks prolific next to Todd Field, who made one more movie after this then vanished. Though he does seem to have something coming out later this year. I can't help but think if he'd made more films that this one would be better remembered.
22. Chicken Run (2000) (DNP) Just a little love for Aardman.
23. No Country for Old Men (2007) (#1)
24. The Dark Knight (2008) (#10)
25. 49 Up (2005) (one-pointer)

Thief

01-28-22, 04:53 PM

First off, great job, Theif!

And No Country for Old Men was my #2, the only film I saw this decade that can possibly rival There Will Be Blood for me, despite it not even being my favorite Coen brothers film overall. Here is my complete list...

My List:
1. There Will Be Blood (#3)
2. No Country for Old Men (#1)
3. Synecdoche, New York (#46)
4. Inglourious Basterds (#18)
5. The Dark Knight (#10)
6. Let the Right One In (#29)
7. Adaptation (DNP)
8. Sin City (#47)
9. Dogville (DNP)
10. Read My Lips (DNP)
11. A Scanner Darkly (DNP)
12. No Man’s Land (DNP)
13. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (#53)
14. The Lives of Others (#41)
15. Grizzly Man (DNP)
16. The Royal Tenenbaums (#35)
17. Memento (#11)
18. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (#86)
19. The Incredibles (#36)
20. Lost in Translation (#32)
21. Pan's Labyrinth (#7)
22. The Man Who Wasn’t There (#84)
23. Gomorrah (DNP)
24. Moon (#48)
25. Letters from Iwo Jima (DNP)

Hey, Adaptation made it at #43! :D

kgaard

01-28-22, 04:55 PM

I love The Road as you can see from one of my previous posts. I really thought it would make the backend of the list, maybe in the 90-100, but well.

All I remember about The Road is that afterward I ended up next to Viggo Mortensen (he was there for a Q&A) at the urinals. You know how like 50% of men wash their hands after? Let's just say we kept up that stat, and I always wash my hands. :shifty:

Captain Terror

01-28-22, 05:03 PM

21. In the Bedroom (2001) (DNP) Longeran looks prolific next to Todd Field, who made one more movie after this then vanished. Though he does seem to have something coming out later this year. I can't help but think if he'd made more films that this one would be better remembered.

Forgot about that one. I actually saw that one at the theater, such was the buzz around it at the time. Completely lost track of Field in the 20 ensuing years.

John Dumbear

01-28-22, 05:03 PM

I’m disappointed at the lack of documentaries, as I had two (Grizzly Man and An Inconvenient Truth), but I could have easily included Murderball, as well. *

Damn, forgot about "Murderball". Would have made my list.

Holden Pike

01-28-22, 05:05 PM

Sedai

01-28-22, 05:08 PM

I had Primer on my list for a while. I have watched it perhaps 6-8 times since it was released. That said, I find it much more engaging as a thought experiment or perhaps an almost-concise explanation of an idea on film, more so than an engaging and artful piece of film making, so I ultimately cut it from my list. It might be that I am not quite smart enough to fully grasp it on either an ideological level or as a piece of art.

Fellowship of the Ring was my #5. I have always adored this film from the day I saw it in theaters and was totally blown away. It's one of those films that, if I happen across it, I am watching it. Easily my favorite of the trilogy, which I think is strong across the board. Perfectly cast, the world feels magical, and my opinion of the film only grew once the extended edition was released, which I prefer over the theatrical cut. if I had to point out a flaw, it's that Jackson pulls off the dark stuff a bit better than the light, but that is a minor quibble. Funny thing: I troll my wife with the "I choose a mortal life" quote all the time, and she rolls her eyes every time. In fact, I just sent her the gif again right now...

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And finally...

No Country for Old Men was at the top of my list, at #1. Pretty much a perfect film, and one I have seen at least a dozen times. Is it my favorite Coen? Hard to say, as I like both The Big Lebowski and Miller's Crossing at least as much. Alas, that's a story for another decade...I don't have much to add that others haven't already articulated. Fantastic stuff.

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John Dumbear

01-28-22, 05:12 PM

Gone Baby Gone is one that if I had rewatched, might've sneaked in my list. I remember liking it a lot, but it's been a while.

I loved this film upon first viewing. With further viewings came away with a film with some great scenes, but lacking in continuity, if that makes sense.

crumbsroom

01-28-22, 05:49 PM

Documentaries generally have a tough time cracking these lists. Which is why we did a list just for them. CLICKY HERE (https://www.movieforums.com/lists/movie_forums_documentaries/edit.html). Werner Herzog's Grizzly Man was the MoFo top choice at the time.

A lot of good stuff on that list. The Top 20 are all great (haven't seen Blackfish), except for Dear Zachary. Never have I found such an enormous divide between the emotional impact of a film and its quality as a film. The story it is telling is a living nightmare and leads to what would be in the top 3 most gutting experiences I've ever had watching a movie of any kind. But I think it is an absolutely atrocious film. How this is even possible, I don't know, but here we are. Maybe it deserves its high level of recognition, just for this miraculous feat alone.

crumbsroom

01-28-22, 05:51 PM

A lot of good stuff on that list. The Top 20 are all great (haven't seen Blackfish), except for Dear Zachary. Never have I found such an enormous divide between the emotional impact of a film and its quality as a film. The story it is telling is a living nightmare and leads to what would be in the top 3 most gutting experiences I've ever had watching a movie of any kind. But I think it is an absolutely atrocious film. How this is even possible, I don't know, but here we are. Maybe it deserves its high level of recognition, just for this miraculous feat alone.

Wait a minute....My Winnipeg is a documentary?

Is this because we are playing fast and loose with the definition of a documentary, or....do people from other countries actually think this is what living in Canada is like?

crumbsroom

01-28-22, 05:53 PM

Act of Killing was initially on my list. Until I realized it was from the wrong decade.

Takoma11

01-28-22, 05:55 PM

Films from my ballot that didn't make it:

4. Mysterious Skin (2004)
A film that is too painful to watch that often. Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Brady Corbet are amazing in this film about a male hustler and a man who believes he's the victim of alien abduction and about how both of their lives are connected to a shared trauma from their past.

6. Lilya 4-Ever (2002)
Another too-painful film that I also happen to think is great. Moodysson's film slowly and in heart-searing detail shows how a young woman becomes pulled into the world of sex trafficking. Anchored by Oksana Akinshina's excellent performance, this unsparing and yet deeply empathetic film literally revolutionized the way that I think about how violence and specifically sexual violence is shown in movies.

7. Stardust (2007)
Like Hot Fuzz, this is a movie that makes me smile. It's an "anytime" movie for me. I can watch it all the way through. Watch just the first half, just the last 30 minutes, whatever.

13. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004)

I thought that this entry in the Harry Potter franchise was visually engaging and a really solid children's/family film. The look of it was just so much how I often imagined the kind of fantasy books in the genre.

14. Lake Mungo (2009)
One of my favorite movies, period, this faux-documentary follows the strange and supernatural events that follow the family of a teenage girl who accidentally drowns. While it has one of the most memorable "scary moments" of any film I can think of, it takes time and care with the emotional rollercoaster that comes with such a profound loss. It's a deeply unsettling movie that combines supernatural horror with the mundane horror of being a teenager.

17.Coraline (2009)
An imaginative, enjoyably dark adaptation of Gaiman's novel.

18. Kung Fu Hustle (2004)
The scene with the snakes made me laugh so hard the first time I saw it that I got a cramp in my side. It often still has that effect on me during rewatches. This is unabashedly a live-action cartoon. It's my favorite of Stephen Chow's films.

20. The Emperor's New Groove (2000)
A nostalgic favorite. Great voice performances and lots of little visual elements that make revisiting it rewarding.

21. Frailty (2001)
I knew that horror wouldn't make a strong showing, but I did hope that this film from Bill Paxton might be shown some love. Alternating between the present and the past, this story of two brothers being raised by a father who claims to be able to see demons in the faces of everyday people packs a punch from beginning to end.

22. A Single Man (2009)
A visually stunning film with a great central performance from Colin Firth. This period piece set in the 1960s follows a man who is mourning the death of his lover and his despair and social isolation.

23. Primer (2004)
I'm surprised that this one didn't make the list, honestly. It's a different, innovative piece of sci-fi filmmaking. The elaborate and overlapping time-travel dynamics are engaging, but so are the ways that the two central characters grow apart.

24.A Tale of Two Sisters (2003)
Just another really solid horror film with memorable moments and several stunning horror sequences. Another one that I thought might *just* sneak in at the bottom of the countdown.

Takoma11

01-28-22, 05:56 PM

Is this because we are playing fast and loose with the definition of a documentary, or....do people from other countries actually think this is what living in Canada is like?

Let's be real: it's both.

I mean, doesn't every Canadian have their coming-of-age sexual awakening in a locker room after a local hockey game?

Rockatansky

01-28-22, 05:58 PM

These are two interesting choices. Bad Lieutenant is a bizarre film, but one that I enjoyed a lot nonetheless. Femme Fatale I remember liking a looot, but I haven't seen in more than 15 years. I need to revisit it, because I used to rank it fairly high in my De Palma ranking.

Bad Lieutenant I might like more than any other Herzog. I don't have anything smart to say about it, other than the fact that Cage is tremendous and that it's a much more dynamic experience than the Ferrara "original". One of those cases where the director and star's idiosyncrasies perfectly complement each other to deceptively moving results.

Femme Fatale is the last sexy movie, so I had to vote for it. But really, if you can ignore that the story is nonsense, there's some tremendous filmmaking. The Cannes sequence is one of the best things De Palma's ever done, and I say that as a big fan.

Rockatansky

01-28-22, 05:59 PM

Let's be real: it's both.

I mean, doesn't every Canadian have their coming-of-age sexual awakening in a locker room after a local hockey game?

I hate hockey. :#

crumbsroom

01-28-22, 06:04 PM

I hate hockey. :#

Too busy shutting yourself inside and watching re-runs of Ledge Man, I assume.

The only kind of awakening I ever had during my years playing hockey, was realizing I didn't like spending any time with kids who played hockey.

Takoma11

01-28-22, 06:08 PM

I hate hockey. :#

Because of that awkward coming-of-age self-realization moment in the locker room? Hey, we get it.

Thief

01-28-22, 06:18 PM

S-hit, I forgot to quote this!

Yeah but there's no way No Country won. I'd like it to, but it's not happening.

Hubris :D

cricket

01-28-22, 06:21 PM

Glad to see No Country take it since it got my vote and the Rings movie was tough for me to get through.

1. The Secret in Their Eyes (2009) (#59)
2. Downfall (2004) (#28)
3. Wolf Creek (2005)
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4. City of God (2002) (#25)
5. Adaptation (2002) (#43)
6. The Devil's Rejects (2005) (#94)
7. Wonderland (2003)
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8. 28 Days Later (2002) (#45)
9. Beerfest (2006)
https://s1.dmcdn.net/v/PabG61SUp9-QbV_YD/x1080
10. The Wrestler (2008) (#54)
11. Mystic River (2003) (#65)
12. The Hangover (2009)
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13. The Departed (2006) (#19)
14. Sideways (2002) (#39)
15. Amores Perros (2000) (#81)
16. Donnie Darko (2001) (#24)
17. Y tu mamá también (2001) (#95)
18. Head-On (2004)
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19. No Country for Old Men (2007) (#1)
20. Hostel (2006)
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21. Old School (2003)
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22. 25th Hour (2002)
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23. Before the Devil Knows You're Dead (2007)
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24. There Will Be Blood (2007) (#3)
25. Sexy Beast (2001)
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Honorable mentions

Pans Labyrinth
Layer Cake
Cabin Fever
Babel
Bully
Snatch
Sin City
Ghost World
Wedding Crashers
Almost Famous
Rampage
The Salton Sea
You Can Count on Me
The Cooler
Saw
Iron man
In Bruges

Seen 85/100, I think, have to double-check

Thank you very much Thief! Since you did such a great job and you have nothing else going on, you may as well host the next countdown too.