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Thief
01-24-22, 11:19 AM
Seen it, but no vote.

Probably because I haven't seen it in maybe 10-15 years. I have probably seen it twice, and remember loving it quite a bit, but it has more or less vanished. I seriously need a rewatch. Still, I'm glad to see it make it here.


Reaching the end of the road...

Seen: 78/95


1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6. Memento (#11)
7. Synecdoche, New York (#46)
8.
9. Kill Bill Vol. 1 (#14)
10. Zodiac (#9)
11. Requiem for a Dream (#26)
12.
13. The Prestige (#38)
14.
15.
16.
17. Once (#103)
18.
19.
20. Pan's Labyrinth (#7)
21. Before Sunset (#42)
22.
23. Mother (#96)
24.
25.

The Rodent
01-24-22, 11:20 AM
Wait... I thought this already showed :laugh:

seanc
01-24-22, 11:23 AM
Love Eternal enough to have it at #17. Have I ever mentioned Kaufman’s writing on mofo? He’s got a career ahead of him in that department I think. I am surprised Eternal is this high. I figured in the 20’s.

Thief
01-24-22, 11:24 AM
Wait... I thought this already showed :laugh:

No, you must have mistaken it with Oldboy :shifty:

John Dumbear
01-24-22, 11:24 AM
Tried three times to get through the last entry, all failed. Highly doubt that I'll try again.

ScarletLion
01-24-22, 11:25 AM
6. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (439 points) - Just missed out on my list. Good film, really due a rewatch.

The Rodent
01-24-22, 11:25 AM
No, you must have mistaken it with Oldboy :shifty:

I was thinking of Paul Blart Episode IV: A New Blart

John-Connor
01-24-22, 11:33 AM
Pans and Eternal are both good, and on my 00’s top 50.

Don't believe there will be any miracles, so I'll go ahead and reveal my #13 Ip Man 2008. Biopic of master Ip Man, the first martial arts master to teach the Chinese martial art of Wing Chun and Bruce Lee's sensei.

Here's a clip of Ip Man who wants to fight ten MoFos that didn't vote for his bio pic. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL5Bq41lehI

Seen: 75/95
Ballot: 19/25

25. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
24. Snatch
23. 100%
22. In the Mood for Love
21. DNP
20. Inglourious Bastardos
19. The Dark Knight
18. Sin City
17. DNP
16. DNP
15. Lost in Translation
14. DNP
13. Ip Man
12. The Pianist
11. Downfall
10. Master and Commander
09. Casino Royale
08. Kill Bill: Vol. 1
07. Ocean’s Eleven
06. Zodiac
05. City of God
04. Donnie Darko
03. Collateral
02. Gladiator
01. The Two Towers

mark f
01-24-22, 11:33 AM
I think I've probably gotten into more arguments over Spotless at the three film forums I've participated in (the other two being long gone - Metacritic Forums and Movie Justice), and that's even with my giving it a fair-to-middling rating (2.5). I found it quite morose and strangely unromantic even if it was creative in a Charlie Kaufmanesque way.

rauldc14
01-24-22, 11:36 AM
One of those meh films for me. The worst of the top 10 I'd say, one other being clue if not for a real good performance from a certain someone.

Thief
01-24-22, 11:36 AM
Critics

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Critics thoughts on our #6, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind...

https://i.imgur.com/ZGkuucR.png

It currently has a 92% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 8.3/10 score on IMDb (with 965,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★★ and said:

"The wisdom in Eternal Sunshine is how it illuminates the way memory interacts with love. We more readily recall pleasure than pain. From the hospital I remember laughing nurses and not sleepless nights. A drunk remembers the good times better than the hangovers. A failed political candidate remembers the applause. An unsuccessful romantic lover remembers the times when it worked."

Meanwhile Will Self, of the London Evening Standard, said:

"For all its high-falutin' references this is just another rom com with a bit of angst and ontological confusion thrown into the mix."

As for our MoFo reviewers, Skepsis93 said:

"Many viewings later and it always hits me in the same ways, but new ways as well. Every performance is fantastic. It's beautifully written by one of my (now) favourite screenwriters with grace, humour and incredible pathos, built around a sensational concept. It always provokes new ideas. It's gloriously smart yet brilliantly entertaining. Its pleasures are endless."

And Gatsby said:

"Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind is a good film, but it restrains itself so the drama factor can effectively kick in. Half of the time that works, half of the time it doesn't. And the half of the time it doesn't is when the free-flowing, wild fun is needed the most."

ueno_station54
01-24-22, 11:37 AM
i remember liking Eternal but its been a long while and i don't like Kaufman nearly as much as i used to.

The Rodent
01-24-22, 11:40 AM
Might as well chuck out:

1. Moon (2009) - 48th
2. YES
3. YES
4. Pan's Labyrinth (2006) - 7th
5. YES
6. Shaun of the Dead (2004) - 20th
7. Zodiac (2007) - 9th
8. Sin City (2005) - 47th
9. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) - 15th
10. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) - 8th
11. Million Dollar Baby (2004) - 57th
12. Unbelievably NO
13. Cast Away (2000) - 69th
14. WALL·E (2008) - 13th
15. NO
16. NO
17. NO
18. The Dark Knight (2008) - 10th
19. NO
20. Unbreakable (2000) - 62nd
21. Gladiator (2000) - 40th
22. Watchmen (2009) - 87th
23. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003) - 63rd
24. Unbelievably NO
25. Inglourious Basterds (2009) - 18th

Holden Pike
01-24-22, 11:41 AM
84714

Michel Gondry’s Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind was the runner up, #2 on the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium List. It was also #19 on the original MoFo Top 100, #92 on the 2020 reboot, and #27 on the MoFo Top 100 Sci-Fi Films list.

CosmicRunaway
01-24-22, 11:41 AM
Eternal Sunshine is a film I've been meaning to rewatch for awhile now because I think I'll appreciate it more than I did before, but I never seem to get around to it (that appears to be a theme with me). I did manage to catch part of it on tv a few years back, but I was visiting home at the time and something came up, so not only had I missed the start, but I didn't get to see the end either haha.

Seen: 62/95

Yoda
01-24-22, 11:42 AM
I think I've probably gotten into more arguments over Spotless at the three film forums I've participated in (the other two being long gone - Metacritic Forums and Movie Justice), and that's even with my giving it a fair-to-middling rating (2.5). I found it quite morose and strangely unromantic even if it was creative in a Charlie Kaufmanesque way.
I agree very much with "strangely unromantic." Best argument, maybe, is that it's supposed to be, because the relationship in it isn't actually a particularly good or healthy one, and it's about hanging onto something like that even when you shouldn't. This, to my mind, makes it more potent, even if it completely changes what's supposed to be good about it.

rauldc14
01-24-22, 11:47 AM
59/95, will finish 64/100. Par for the course for me.

Chypmunk
01-24-22, 11:51 AM
I've still never seen Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind, maybe one day though tbh I'm not the world's greatest Jim Carrey fan so maybe not.


Seen: 66/95 (Own: 46/95)

1. WALL·E (2008) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0910970/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#13]
2. Zodiac (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443706/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#9]
3. Madeo [Mother] (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216496/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#96]
5. Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain [Amélie] (2001) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0211915/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#16]
6. Moon (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182345/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#48]
7. El laberinto del fauno [Pan's Labyrinth] (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0457430/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#7]
8. Der Untergang [Downfall] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#28]
10. Fa yeung nin wah [In The Mood For Love] (2000) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118694/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#12]
11. Oldeuboi [Oldboy] (2003) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364569/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3) [#22]
12. The Departed (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407887/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#19]
15. Låt den rätte komma in [Let The Right One In] (2008) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1139797/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#29]
16. The Descent (2005) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#80]
21. Dare mo shiranai [Nobody Knows] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0408664/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
22. Bin-jip [3-Iron] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0423866/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
23. Hak se wui: Yi woo wai kwai [Election 2] (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0491244/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
24. Control (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421082/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_6) - dnp
25. The Pool (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0911024/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_6) [1-ptr]



Faildictions (millennial edition v1.01):
26. Superbad (2007)
25. Memento (2000) [11]
24. Road To Perdition (2002)
23. The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers (2002) [15]
22. Shrek (2001)
21. Requiem For A Dream (2000) [26]
20. Oldboy (2003) [22]
19. Inglourious Basterds (2009) [18]
18. Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind (2004) [6]
17. City Of God (2002) [25]
16. In The Mood For Love (2000) [12]
15. O Brother Where Art Thou? (2000) [21]
14. Children Of Men (2006) [17]
13. Amélie (2001) [16]
12. Zodiac (2007) [9]
11. WALL·E (2008) [13]
10. The Departed (2006) [19]
9. The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring (2001)
8. Shaun Of The Dead (2004) [20]
7. Mulholland Drive (2001)
6. Pan's Labyrinth (2006) [7]
5. There Will Be Blood (2007)
4. The Dark Knight (2008) [10]
3. Spirited Away (2001)
2. The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King (2003) [8]
1. No Country For Old Men (2007)

No change - still twenty-three down, three to go.....

Holden Pike
01-24-22, 11:54 AM
Man, the way ESOTSM hits me I find it incredibly romantic. As I said in THIS THREAD (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=13005)...
After you get past all of Charlie Kaufman's ingenious machinations about erasing memories and the surreal fun of desperately running through those moments as they disappear, what's at the core of it all is the emotional truth of the way humans love: even knowing exactly how painful the ultimate outcome and how fleeting it all can be, most of us would consciously choose to relive it all over again, because the great parts and the happiness at love's apex are so great, and really what life is all about.

84715

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind was my fifth pick and the last from my Top Ten to make the cut (I have two more in the collective top five). Like all of Charlie Kaufman's work it is as exceedingly clever as it is weird, but as detailed above I find at his center he really is a pretty traditional romantic. But those messages are hidden in worlds and characters who get there in the most circuitous and surreal journeys that on their surface are more about pain and disappointment. I find him to be a certifiable genius, myself.

HOLDEN’S BALLOT
1. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (#86)
2. Dancer in the Dark (#49)
5. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (#6)
7. Children of Men (#17)
8. Amélie (#16)
9. The Lives of Others (#41)
10. The Pianist (#31)
13. Zodiac (#9)
14. Synecdoche, New York (#46)
15. Moon (#48)
16. Fantastic Mr. Fox (#70)
17. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (#92)
18. A Serious Man (#66)
19. Adaptation. (#43)
20. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (#51)
21. Downfall (#28)
24. Memento (#11)

ynwtf
01-24-22, 12:00 PM
Pan's Labyrinth controls my #1 spot while Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind sits at #17.

Pan's Labyrinth just hits on so many levels with me. I'm a blubbering wall of tear snot every time I watch it and, as mentioned before, the score is simple and perfect for projecting the emotion of any given scene. The underworld is a masterpiece of visual effects and lore. I could spend hours listening to or reading through sketch journals exhausted to finalize the concepts that made it to screen. The near seamless blend of child fantasy and horror reminds me so much of Lady Cottington's Pressed Fairy Book. Both are absolutely gorgeous to experience. So much so that I almost forget the brutal horror of what's being presented. I don't know. There hasn't been a movie that hits quite the way this one does. It's like.... It's like the magical wonder of Labyrinth (Bowie) met the gut-punch tragedies of Blue Valentine and decided to create a super mecha stacked combination bot designed to target and devour my soul. It's a wild rollercoaster of emotion, for me, and as tragic as it is depending on your perspective of the events that play out, it's a ride that I always have to return to and suffer with. It's weird, yo.


*EDIT*
ESOTSM was alright I guess.
:highfive:

Sedai
01-24-22, 12:06 PM
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind was my #17. While this didn't make my top of all time list, it was pretty much always going to make a more focused list on the 00s like this. Back in the actual 00s, it most likely would have been top 10, or maybe even top 5. It's faded somewhat for me over time, but I still think it is one of the best films of the decade. A touching and wonderfully creative analysis on the human condition in matters of love, and how it can fade over time.

A few years after this was released, I went through the experience of ending a long relationship of 10 years, and found myself watching this frequently throughout all that. The viewings were very potent at that time, to say the least.

https://static1.colliderimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/eternal-sunshine-of-the-spotless-mind-slice.png

Oh, one more thing...Holden's comments about the highs of love being worth it, no matter what the outcome is, reminded me of another film, which would most certainly make my Best of the 10s list: Arrival. It covers that concept in a different way, but it is just as affecting.

Citizen Rules
01-24-22, 12:06 PM
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind....At least that's a film I've seen and appreciated. I did consider it for my list but like so many other fine films I just didn't have room for it.

I'm glad it made the list but surprised it made it this high. I mean I never hear any buzz about it these days.

Miss Vicky
01-24-22, 12:09 PM
I've never been much of a fan of Jim Carrey and I'd never seen a Michel Gondry film prior to Eternal Sunshine, so I'm not sure what it was that initially drew me to see it. What I do remember though is that I loved it instantly and it has been among my favorites ever since. I currently rank it at number 9 on my list of all-time favorites, which lands it squarely at number 7 on my list for the decade. It's also the last of the movies on my ballot that will show.

Here's what I wrote about it in 2016:

http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/MovieLog/eternalsunshine.gif

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
Imdb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338013/?ref_=nv_sr_1)

Date Watched: 10/28/16
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: Trying to finalize the order of my next personal top 100
Rewatch: Yes

Possible Spoilers Ahead

Jim Carey gives what I believe is the best performance of his career as Joel Barish - a deeply damaged and painfully shy man reeling from the dissolution of his two-year relationship with Clementine Kruczynski, an impulsive and outspoken woman played by Kate Winslet. After discovering that Clementine has had her memories of him erased and is now dating a younger man, Joel goes to the doctor who did the procedure and demands to have his memories erased as well. As the procedure is being performed on a sedated, sleeping Joel, we are immersed into his memories. We begin with the most recent – distance, bitter fights and resentment, then we progress to a sweet, genuine romance between two messed up people, and then to their fateful meeting.

But it’s not a slow or peaceful progression. Very quickly, Joel decides he doesn’t want the procedure anymore, but is powerless to compel his body to voice his objections and make it stop. So instead he drags Clementine from one memory to the next, desperately fleeing the technology that will take away what he has left of the only thing that brought him any real happiness.

However, the thing that really makes the movie to me is what happens when Joel wakes. When his mind compels him to act on what he believes is merely impulse and he and Clementine are brought together for what they think is the first time only to discover the truth the next morning when each receives a mysterious package.

Without a doubt, this is one the most beautiful films I’ve ever seen – not just in the way it looks, but in the story it has to tell and in the way it perfectly captures the bittersweet emotions of its characters. Though it toes the line of fantasy, this is a film that is deeply rooted in reality and in a genuine understanding of what it is to be human.

rating_5

Seen: 59/95 (I've also seen all five of the remaining films, which will give me a total of 64/100 seen)

My Ballot:
1. Quills (#67)
2. Gladiator (#40)
3. Up (#33)
5. Ratatouille (#23)
6. Hedwig and the Angry Inch (#91)
7. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (#6)
12. WALL·E (#13)
14. The Departed (#19)
21. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (#63)
24. Inglourious Basterds (#18)
25. Surf's Up (One-Pointer)

Chypmunk
01-24-22, 12:10 PM
*notes where people are placing ESotSM and scribbles addition to the 'Proof that Yin is actually Sedai's alt' notebook

ynwtf
01-24-22, 12:12 PM
I'm impressed that there's an entire notebook on that topic!

seanc
01-24-22, 12:16 PM
I don’t find Eternal romantic, but I guess I don’t find it completely devoid of romance either. I think every Kaufman is about our desire to be needed and to connect to somebody. He shows our brokenness so well though, so that connection has to be clawed and scratched for. Through all kinds of the messiness we bring to everything. Is that romantic? Sometimes

That’s my answer to the question nobody asked me. Is Eternal romantic? Sometimes

Sedai
01-24-22, 12:22 PM
*notes where people are placing ESotSM and scribbles addition to the 'Proof that Yin is actually Sedai's alt' notebook

I questioned this myself, finding it to be complete nonsense. Right ynwtf?

Right!

Oh, whoops!

I'm impressed that there's an entire notebook on that topic!


Yes, we are impressed!

Thief
01-24-22, 12:25 PM
Trailer

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07-QBnEkgXU

Deschain
01-24-22, 12:25 PM
Eternal Sunshine is a perfectly fine film but having never been in a difficult relationship or experienced a truly devastating breakup I never really related to this in ways others probably can. Also I watched it long after it came out and was surprised nobody ever mentioned the B story with the kids running the thing. It takes up a good chunk of the movie but I never saw it brought up.

ynwtf
01-24-22, 12:26 PM
got-dang-it! I HATE that "you must wait 10 seconds before you can re-log back in bla bla bla." And yes, I totally agree, yn.

mark f
01-24-22, 12:44 PM
Tell No One, my #14, is a tense French movie-movie, which plays out as both a compelling mystery and an action-thriller, tells the story of Dr. Alexandre Beck (François Cluzet) whose wife is murdered. Although the doctor is a prime suspect, he's cleared and the death is attributed to a serial killer although things never really did add up. Eight years later, at just about the time that two bodies are found near the crime scene, Beck receives an e-mail which seems to be from his wife. Eventually, Beck is forced to take it on the lam, but he's aided by several unusual compatriots in trying to prove his innocence and find out if his wife is still alive.

What sets this flick apart from the usual paint-by-numbers thriller is that it has a strong plot and characters so that it's difficult to solve the mystery but it's easy to sympathize with the characters. Then, when you're totally drawn into the mystery, the film throws in one of the most-impressive chases by foot ever recorded (probably only topped by the one in Point Break) and adds a new level of characters to make everything even more complex and seemingly-unravellable (how's that for a word?). I thoroughly enjoyed the unusual characters and the way their fates played out. The only thing I'm worried about is that this is apparently going to be remade in English in 2011. The plot is so strong that if they cast it with character actors it could work. Unfortunately, I'm guessing they're going with big names. [Thankfully this never happened.]

Talk to Her is my #13. and my fave Almodóvar film and this is my fave scene.
https://www.theadultblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/woman-fits-head-inside-a-vagina.gif

My List

1. The Incredibles
2. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
3. King Kong
5. Ratatouille
7. Downfall
8. Up
9. The Dark Knight
10. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
11. Everything Will Be OK
12. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
13. Talk to Her
14. Tell No One
15. WALL·E
16. Children of Men
17. Pan's Labyrinth
19. The Pianist
20. A.I. Artificial Intelligence
21. Pride & Prejudice
22. Hotel Rwanda
25. City of Life and Death

KeyserCorleone
01-24-22, 12:52 PM
Eternal Sunshine blew me away. The way that the world of one's mind was handled was flawless, much like one of those crazy "inside a dream" cartoon episodes but with the comedic touch of the surreal Annie Hall. My number 11.

Sent-In Ballot:

#2. Oldboy (22)
#3. Sin City (47)
#5. Requiem for a Dream (26)
#6. Memento (11)
#7. Yi Yi (49)
#8. The Departed (19)
#9. The Dark Knight (10)
#10. Casino Royale (37)
#11. Eternal Sunshine (6)
#13. Million Dollar Baby (57)
#15. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (53)
#16. Let the Right One In (29)
#19. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (8)
#20. Iron Man (83)
#21. Inglourious Basterds (18)
#22. Pirates of the Caribbean (63)
#25. Hot Fuzz (30)

Post-Ballot:

#2. Oldboy (22)
#3. Sin City (47)
#5. Requiem for a Dream (26)
#6. Memento (11)
#7. Yi Yi (49)
#8. The Departed (19)
#9. The Dark Knight (10)
#10. Casino Royale (37)
#11. Eternal Sunshine (6)
#12. Snatch (71)
#14. Million Dollar Baby (57)
#16. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (53)
#17. Let the Right One In (29)
#18. Slumdog Millionaire (not placed but it made my new 25)
#19. Monsters, Inc. (74)
#21. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (8)
#22. Iron Man (83)
#23. Fantastic Mr. Fox (70)
#24. Inglourious Basterds (18)
#25. Pirates of the Caribbean (63)

Seen 57/95

ynwtf
01-24-22, 01:02 PM
The Devil Wears Prada hehehe


Not sure how this will stand the test of 48 hours, but I'm not too proud to admit that The Devil Wears Prada made my original gathering list. For some reason I love this movie. I'm not sure why as it's borderline cheese. It's just very charming and disarming. And you learn how to make a great cheese toast sandwich.

The Rodent
01-24-22, 01:15 PM
Not sure how this will stand the test of 48 hours.

Wasn't 48 Hours an 80s movie?

Iroquois
01-24-22, 01:21 PM
Another good one I didn't vote for.

Wooley
01-24-22, 01:35 PM
Preparing my points about why ROTK is the weakest of the trilogy like I do everytime it shows up on a countdown:)

Yeah, I had Fellowship in my Top 25 list, but neither of the other ones.

John-Connor
01-24-22, 01:35 PM
*notes where people are placing ESotSM and scribbles addition to the 'Proof that Yin is actually Sedai's alt' notebook
*plot twist.. identical twins!



84716

TheUsualSuspect
01-24-22, 01:40 PM
1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)

https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/blog_post_featured_media_mobile/public/2019/03/img_8226.jpg?h=9952353b

“I’m erasing you and I’m happy.”


Eternal Sunshine is my #1 and a film that has held up incredibly well with re-watches.

It's a film that embraces its own logic beautifully and realistically. This is a future that I can believe in and Kauffman litters the story with small relatable elements to make the world feel fully realized. A woman sits in the doctor's office with a dog dish, a small singular moment that anyone with a pet can relate to.

I ask myself, would I erase the love of my life because the pain of losing them is too much? Would I be willing to admit my mistake and fight to keep those memories alive? While it seems like a good idea at the start, since they are working backwards, you see all the bad stuff go first. But once you get to those special magic moments that define you as a person, you want to hold onto them no matter what. I simply love the idea and Gondry doesn't fantasize the dream world like one would expect. Using practical in camera effects works wonderfully in the dream world.

Is it romantic? Yes and no. Blue Valentine is a depressing look at relationships and how real they can be. Eternal Sunshine walks the same line, should these people be together? Do they actually end of together? Are they stuck in this erasing loop forever? You can have the procedure done and not even realize it, as is the case with a surprising story element introduced later in the film. Not all relationships work out and for people to fight tooth and nail to keep what they know is a volatile is somewhat depressing, but it's also real.

One of Winslet's best performances. She is bright, bubbly and happy in the beginning. Her hair is a personal mood ring and we get to see the gradual decrease of happiness. Relationships can suck the joy out of people, we see this happen with her. Carrey delivers what is arguably his best performance (Truman show is up there for me too). His face alone is a melancholic depressed canvass that he is able to paint with broad strokes whenever he wants.

The movie came out in February and was still in our collective minds until the Oscars almost a YEAR later, winning original screenplay. I honestly love the originality of the film and how perfectly the cast captures those relatable characters.

The Rodent
01-24-22, 01:54 PM
I forgot one last bit of trivia for Pan's Labyrinth...

About 15 minutes in, Vidal smashes a guy's face in with a bottle... this is based on something Del Toro saw when he was a teenager.
He saw a bar fight, where one guy did exactly what Vidal does. In the commentary, he explains his shock not at the act... but at the fact the victim didn't struggle, and the bottle didn't break.

Sorry to go back to the previous movie reveal, but I'm sitting watching Pan's Labyrinth right now and got reminded :D

ynwtf
01-24-22, 02:06 PM
Another good one I didn't vote for.


Glad to find another Prada fan! Welcome, brother.

SpelingError
01-24-22, 02:19 PM
I watched Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind years ago and don't remember it that well. I remember liking it quite a bit, albeit not loving it. If I rewatched it before this countdown though, it might've made my list. Who knows.

Thief
01-24-22, 02:27 PM
I forgot one last bit of trivia for Pan's Labyrinth...

About 15 minutes in, Vidal smashes a guy's face in with a bottle... this is based on something Del Toro saw when he was a teenager.
He saw a bar fight, where one guy did exactly what Vidal does. In the commentary, he explains his shock not at the act... but at the fact the victim didn't struggle, and the bottle didn't break.

Sorry to go back to the previous movie reveal, but I'm sitting watching Pan's Labyrinth right now and got reminded :D

That scene, man...

https://c.tenor.com/KQuP-9BJigwAAAAM/seinfeld-jerry-seinfeld.gif

rauldc14
01-24-22, 02:44 PM
I'll unveil 2 more. Man on Fire was my number 1. It made the millennium list, but it didn't have a shot in hell here. I'm probably even the only one who voted it, but it's the most badass Denzel performance and that includes Training Day.

About Elly was my 25 and it's among my favorite foreign films. It could have certainly been higher on a different day, but then again the 2000s is loaded with favorites for me.

1. Man On Fire (2004)
2. Mystic River (2003)
3. Million Dollar Baby (2004)
4. Gladiator (2000)
5.
6.
7.
8. Iron Man (2008)
9. Casino Royale (2006)
10. Finding Nemo (2003)
11. Gran Torino (2008)
12. Crash (2004)
13. Lost in Translation (2003)
14. Inside Man (2006)
15. The Prestige (2006)
16. Up (2009)
17.
18. WALL·E (2008)
19.
20. Spider-Man 2 (2004)
21. The Dark Knight (2008)
22.
23. A Beautiful Mind (2001)
24. Sideways (2004)
25. About Elly (2009)

donniedarko
01-24-22, 02:52 PM
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and ROTK are both solid 3.5 for me, haven't seen Pans

Thief
01-24-22, 02:57 PM
Stats: Final Pit Stop
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This is the final pit stop, so here are our stats so far:

Decade Breakdown


2000 = 17
2001 = 10
2002 = 7
2003 = 9
2004 = 11
2005 = 12
2006 = 7
2007 = 7
2008 = 7
2009 = 8


2000 remains on top by a wide margin, but a couple other years gain some traction. Still, with only 5 entries remaining, 2000 seems to be walking out with the crown.


Director Breakdown


Christopher Nolan = 4 (The Dark Knight, Memento, The Prestige, Batman Begins)
Joel & Ethan Coen = 3 (O Brother, Where Art Thou?, The Man Who Wasn't There, A Serious Man)
Wes Anderson = 3 (The Royal Tenenbaums, Life Aquatic of Steve Zissou, Fantastic Mr. Fox)
Quentin Tarantino = 3 (Kill Bill Vol. 1, Inglourious Basterds, Kill Bill Vol. 2)
Edgar Wright = 2 (Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz) = 100%
Andrew Stanton = 2 (WALL-E, Finding Nemo) = 100%
Brad Bird = 2 (Ratatouille, The Incredibles) = 100%
Pete Docter = 2 (Up, Monsters Inc.) = 100%
Guillermo del Toro = 2 (Pan's Labyrinth, The Devil's Backbone)
Peter Jackson = 2 (LOTR: The Two Towers and The Return of the King)
Alfonso Cuarón = 2 (Children of Men, Y tu mamá también)
Darren Aronofsky = 2 (Requiem for a Dream, The Wrestler)
Bong Joon-ho = 2 (Memories of Murder, Mother)
Clint Eastwood = 2 (Mystic River, Million Dollar Baby)
Ang Lee = 2 (Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Brokeback Mountain)
Danny Boyle = 2 (28 Days Later, Sunshine)
Richard Linklater = 2 (Before Sunset, Waking Life)


As expected, Peter Jackson joins the list with two LOTR films. Meanwhile, Christopher Nolan jumps to the top spot with four (4) of his films in the countdown. Will any other director tie or surpass him?


Genre Breakdown


Musical = 2
Biopic drama = 6
Romantic drama = 7
Horror = 5
Horror comedy = 1
Coming of age = 2
Thriller = 13
Drama/mystery = 4
Comedy drama = 10
Romantic comedy = 1
Action comedy = 3
Epic, war drama = 4
Psychological drama = 5
Animated drama = 2
Animated comedy = 7
Superhero action = 5
Crime = 8
Western/Neo-western = 2
Science fiction = 2
Martial arts = 3
Action = 2
Fantasy = 1


Thrillers don't seem to be ceding the top spot, but comedy dramas continue to be close.


And finally, one more foreign film takes the total to 26 out of 95. No animated films in this last group, so we remain at 9.

edarsenal
01-24-22, 02:59 PM
I haven't seen Spotless, only bits of it, and never got around to seeing it.

So, I will, instead, reveal #19 on my list--

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTgwNjcwNzU3MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwOTYzNzM3._V1_.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.rogerebert.com/uploads/review/primary_image/reviews/the-beat-that-my-heart-skipped-2005/EB20050714REVIEWS50708003AR.jpg


The Beat That My Heart Skipped aka De battre mon coeur s'est arrêté (2005) A remake of Harvey Keitel's Fingers (1978) which I have never heard of and a bit curious regarding it having watched this.

Romain Duris plays a furious, emotionally calloused young man who is a bit of a real sh#t real estate man who beats people/squatters out of possible money-making buildings. With a con artist father and a deceased mother who was once a great pianist with severe mental issues. He is caught between the crashing influences of both as a chance meeting inspires him to, once more, take up the piano. He attempts to become a concert pianist like his mother while walking away from the criminal world that is his life.

This is in NO way one of those feel-good, inspirational flicks about following one's dreams, and everything will be lollipops and rainbows. Far from it. Nor is the pursuit of musical achievement a salve for his turbulent nature, as we discover throughout this edgy, uncompromising film of a conflicted man caught in the dangerous influences of both his father and mother.

A winner of some twenty-odd Awards, this is a finely constructed, dark sojourn and worthwhile cinematic experience.


Films Watched 69 out of 95 (72.63%)
1. Amélie (#16)
2. O Brother, Where Art Thou? (#21)
3. Ratatouille (#23)
4.
5. Gladiator (#40)
6. Pan's Labyrinth (#7)
7.
8. The Incredibles (#36)
9. V for Vendetta (#58)
10. The Dark Knight (#10)
11. WALL·E (#13)
12.
13. Memories of Murder (#27)
14. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (#76)
15.
16.
17. Mother (#96)
18. The Departed (#19)
19. The Beat That My Heart Skipped (2005)
20. Memento (#11)
21. In the Mood for Love (#12)
22. Downfall (#28)
23. Quills (#67)
24. Oldboy (#22)
25. A Bittersweet Life (One Pointer)


One Pointers: 10 out of 38 (26.31%)

Thief
01-24-22, 03:09 PM
For those interested, there's a BIG gap in points between #6 and #5. Actually the biggest gap in the countdown, which is 89 points. So these last 5 were the clear favorites by quite a bit, and anybody complaining about this or that should take it up with 30-40 people :laugh:

mark f
01-24-22, 03:11 PM
All right you 30-40 creeps.

The Rodent
01-24-22, 03:16 PM
Jeez, sounds like Paul Blart Episode VI: Return of the Blart did real good.

Thief
01-24-22, 03:17 PM
Awards

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Now to the awards received by Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind...



Academy Award for Best Original Screenplay (Charlie Kaufman)
BAFTA Film Award for Best Original Screenplay (Kaufman)
BAFTA Film Award for Best Editing (Valdís Óskarsdóttir)
Saturn Award for Best Science Fiction Film
AFI Award for Movie of the Year
Awards Circuit Community Award for Best Original Screenplay of the Decade (Kaufman)
Empire Award for Best British Actress (Kate Winslet)
Golden Schmoes Award for Favorite Movie of the Year
Golden Schmoes Award for Trippiest Movie of the Year
Writers Guild of America for Best Original Screenplay (Kaufman)


Among many, many others.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2Nav-ct3W8

Thief
01-24-22, 03:18 PM
All right you 30-40 creeps.

https://c.tenor.com/61-hIsyqKqMAAAAM/anchorman-anchorman-battle-fight.gif

rauldc14
01-24-22, 03:19 PM
Final 5 Prediction
1. Fellowship
2. There Will Be Blood
3. No Country
4. Mulholland
5. Spirited

My last and final and accurate prediction!

The Rodent
01-24-22, 03:21 PM
Final 5 Prediction
1. Fellowship
2. There Will Be Blood
3. No Country
4. Mulholland
5. No Land For Old Man

My last and final and accurate prediction!


Fixed,,,

Sedai
01-24-22, 03:23 PM
Spirited Away is a Miyazaki I just don't get the love for. It's pretty good, but never has a chance of getting near the top of my rankings for his work.

Holden Pike
01-24-22, 03:51 PM
My original guess five days ago for the bottom half of the top ten was close...

1. LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring
2. No Country for Old Men
3. There Will Be Blood
4. Spirited Away
5. Mulholland Dr.
6. LOTR: The Return of the King
7. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
8. Pan's Labyrinth
9. Zodiac
10. The Dark Knight
...except for where I had ROTK. So, I'll stick with that top five...

1. LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring
2. No Country for Old Men
3. There Will Be Blood
4. Spirited Away
5. Mulholland Dr.

seanc
01-24-22, 03:54 PM
For those interested, there's a BIG gap in points between #6 and #5. Actually the biggest gap in the countdown, which is 89 points. So these last 5 were the clear favorites by quite a bit, and anybody complaining about this or that should take it up with 30-40 people :laugh:

No Country and TWBB top five, I’m good. Hoping they finish 1-2

ApexPredator
01-24-22, 04:02 PM
Didn't Make the Cut: There's some good moments in Return of the King. But it's also too long with too many endings which killed any momentum the climax had to offer.

Made the Cut:

Eternal Sunshine for the Spotless Mind was my number 3. This meditation on relationships features a provocative yet clever plot by Charlie Kaufman, an innovative directorial effort from Michel Gondry and great performances from Jim Carrey (!) and Kate Winslet. Is it worth it to remove the pain and heartbreak from your life? Or is the pain part of the process of a relationship along with the good times? The answer to these questions get revealed in the course of Mind.

Pan's Labyrinth is my number 16. This magical realist fairy tale about an imaginative young girl and her effort to complete three quests while her father makes plans to wipe out the rebels in the Spanish regime makes for fascinating viewing. Of course there's CGI, but it wouldn't do much good if the story itself was found lacking. Thanks to the assured, even-handed direction of Guillermo del Toro, the film manages a careful balance between the fantastic (the beast with eyes for hands) and the realistic (it turns out some of the rebels are closer than he'd imagine). The result feels like something out of Grimm's Fairy Tales, timeless and deeper than you might think.

My List:
1. City of God
2. Made the top 5
3. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
4. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
5. Memento
6. Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl
7. X
8. Up
9. Million Dollar Baby
10. X
11. Spider-Man 2
12. X
13. Brokeback Mountain
14. Finding Nemo
15. Requiem for a Dream
16. Pan's Labyrinth
17. X (Kind of surprising to me)
18. X
19. Amelie
20. Kill Bill Volume 1
21. Chicago (Just Missed)
22. The Wrestler
23. X (Probably the only one who picked this one)
24. X (Probably the only one who picked this one)
25. Gladiator

Honorable Mentions:
Remember the Titans
Unbreakable
Shaun of the Dead

ynwtf
01-24-22, 04:22 PM
You know, for like the last 20 or so pages I've been beating my head against a wall wondering how on earth you all could predict that Nick Nolte flick would land in the top 10 here. In my mistake, you've all at least gained some level respect back after I realized. Still, there's an emotional tug-O-war playing out for me with that LoTR:RotK weirdness.

<3
(sorta kinda)
:D

kgaard
01-24-22, 04:37 PM
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (#20), Pan's Labyrinth (#12), and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (#3) all made my list. Return of the King isn't the best of the series (that one is yet to appear) but it is a fitting capstone in spite of its occasional excesses.

For Pan's Labyrinth, here's what I wrote after I saw it:
Pan’s Labyrinth is a dizzying blend of competing elements—masculine/feminine, Catholic/pagan, old/new—arrayed against a background of the Spanish Civil War and Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland. That it all coheres in the end is a tribute to del Toro’s strengths as a filmmaker. Ofelia (Ivana Baquero, wonderfully) is a practical orphan, her father dead and her pregnant mother attached to a stepfather whose cruelty is of the fairy-tale variety. An encounter with a faun in the center of a labyrinth—symbol of the sacred feminine as well as the earth—gives Ofelia an apparent route to escape the banal cruelties of man. The film is often harsh and violent and dark, but always to a purpose, and when del Toro’s themes encounter death at the end, there is not a withering but a blooming.

And more succinctly for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind:
Eternal Sunshine is a visceral head rush; the simple idea of tracing a love story back to its purest moment works brilliantly, and so does pretty much everything else in the film.

mrblond
01-24-22, 04:40 PM
I saw the Eternal Sunshine... in the theater when it came out. It was a big disappointment and I forgot this film on the next day. It was a big surprise when years later, I noticed how popular even fashionable is this among the crowd.
2.5

Although there were signs, I couldn't even imagine that dispiriting Top 10.
Since the top 5 are almost pretty clear, at least I know that there are two relatively good movies.

Siddon
01-24-22, 04:46 PM
1. The Royal Tenenbaums (2001)
2. Zodiac (2007)
3. WALL·E (2008)
4. Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003)
5. The Prestige (2006)
6. 28 Days Later... (2002)
7. Match Point (2005)
8. Paprika (2006)
9. Up (2009)
10. Cast Away (2000)
11. Finding Nemo (2003)
12. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World (2003)
13. Kingdom of Heaven (2005)
14. Sunshine (2007)
15. XXXXXXXXXXXXX
16. Before the Devil Knows You're Dead (2007)
17. A History of Violence (2005)
18. The Dark Knight (2008)
19. Moon (2009)
20. Coraline (2009)
21. Broken Embraces (2009)
22. Volver (2006)
23. Talk to Her (2006)
24. The Man Who Wasn't There (2001)
25. Brand Upon the Brain! A Remembrance in 12 Chapters (2007)


8 films didn't make the cut which likely should have..


Frankly I blame this boards lack of doing noir lists as 5 of the 8 films are neo-noirs and amazing works that likely should have been acknowledged.

MovieMeditation
01-24-22, 04:49 PM
I actually didn’t vote for Eternal Sunshine, but I had to go in and make sure I didn’t cause I might as well have… it’s a great film and I think I’ve seen it twice at least.*

I love Kaufman and his unique voice in cinema. Always pushing his creativeness and how to make movies, both as a director and as a writer.

I love high concept films when done right and this is an example of one done right.

Wooley
01-24-22, 05:38 PM
Since others have posted and the Top 5 coming up, I thought I'd share:

1. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - No.53
2. (This will make the Top 5)
3. The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou - No.98
4. The Devil's Backbone - No.75
5. O Brother, Where Art Thou? - No.21
6. Kill Bill: Vol. 1 - No.14
7. Lost in Translation - No.32
8. The Incredibles - No.36
9. The Royal Tenenbaums - No.35
10. Ocean's Eleven - No.68
11. Casino Royale - No.37
12. Amélie - No.16
13. Children of Men - No.17
14. (I didn't think this had a chance but I think it's very good)
15. (I knew this had no chance but is one of my favorite movies)
16. Ratatouille - No.23
17. (Quite possible we'll be seeing this yet)
18. Juno - No.89
19. (Just a very niche personal favorite)
20. Pan's Labyrinth - No.7
21. Let the Right One In - No.29
22. (Made me laugh a lot)
23. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang - No.76
24. Shaun of the Dead - No.20
25. Unbreakable - No.62

Honestly, I had trouble cobbling together 25 films I thought were transcendent or close to it from that decade but most of these I think are good movies.

Takoma11
01-24-22, 06:09 PM
I haven't seen Spotless, only bits of it, and never got around to seeing it.

So, I will, instead, reveal #19 on my list--

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTgwNjcwNzU3MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwOTYzNzM3._V1_.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.rogerebert.com/uploads/review/primary_image/reviews/the-beat-that-my-heart-skipped-2005/EB20050714REVIEWS50708003AR.jpg

Romain Duris plays a furious, emotionally calloused young man who is a bit of a real sh#t real estate man who beats people/squatters out of possible money-making buildings. With a con artist father and a deceased mother who was once a great pianist with severe mental issues. He is caught between the crashing influences of both as a chance meeting inspires him to, once more, take up the piano. He attempts to become a concert pianist like his mother while walking away from the criminal world that is his life.

Great film. Didn't make my list, but I can absolutely understand why it made yours.

ynwtf
01-24-22, 06:17 PM
getting twitchy now.

Holden Pike
01-24-22, 06:39 PM
You know, for like the last 20 or so pages I've been beating my head against a wall wondering how on earth you all could predict that Nick Nolte flick would land in the top 10 here. In my mistake, you've all at least gained some level respect back after I realized.
84736
Mulholland Falls was released in 1996, thus ineligible.

ynwtf
01-24-22, 06:46 PM
84736
Mulholland Falls was released in 1996, thus ineligible.

lol, Holden. You n me gotta meet up one day so I can better introduce you to my ... random associative sense of humor. ;)

Oh, and I probably missed the release date cuz of Jennifer Connelly constantly getting in the way of that particular point. One of several, I'm sure. But I am terribly giggly that someone picked up my reference!

:D

Thief
01-24-22, 06:53 PM
I was beating my head trying to figure out "what Nick Nolte film are they talking about??" :laugh: but yeah, Mulholland Falls was a film. I don't remember it at all :D

Siddon
01-24-22, 06:57 PM
I was beating my head trying to figure out "what Nick Nolte film are they talking about??" :laugh: but yeah, Mulholland Falls was a film. I don't remember it at all :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zuXXyT7NJY

Holden Pike
01-24-22, 06:58 PM
lol, Holden. You n me gotta meet up one day so I can better introduce you to my ... random associative sense of humor.
84738
And you have to understand that I don't need much of an excuse to happily post pictures of Jennifer Connelly.

ynwtf
01-24-22, 07:02 PM
84738
And you have to understand that I don't need much of an excuse to happily post pictures of Jennifer Connelly.

I'm liking you more and more with each post. I vote Jennifer Connelly should be our next countdown theme.

Holden Pike
01-24-22, 07:19 PM
I'm liking you more and more with each post. I vote Jennifer Connelly should be our next countdown theme.
84740

Here is some early campaigning for the eventual, problematic Film Noir list: do check out Dennis Hopper's The Hot Spot (1990).

cricket
01-24-22, 07:48 PM
Didn't care much for Eternal Sunshine when I watched it years ago. Been meaning to give it another shot since I've become more tolerant of goofy characters.

Yoda
01-24-22, 07:55 PM
I've become more tolerant of goofy characters.
Probably because of the people on this site.






Wait, which way did he mean that? The answer is "yes"

rauldc14
01-24-22, 08:11 PM
Probably because of the people on this site.






Wait, which way did he mean that? The answer is "yes"

And I'm the lead actor in this thread.

ynwtf
01-24-22, 08:14 PM
I agree very much with "strangely unromantic." Best argument, maybe, is that it's supposed to be, because the relationship in it isn't actually a particularly good or healthy one, and it's about hanging onto something like that even when you shouldn't. This, to my mind, makes it more potent, even if it completely changes what's supposed to be good about it.

Admittedly, I haven't seen this one in a few years but I do not remember it being romantic in a sense of romantic love. Maybe as a romanticized ideal of what one would hope love is (could have been?) after losing the relationship. It's easy to look back and pine for what's lost while overlooking all that worked against the relationship from day 2.

I agree that I don't think their relationship was very healthy, but there's a weird panic that can develop, after the fact, when deciding to excise one from your life. I think this movie did an excellent job of translating that for the screen showing how chaotic, irrational, and desperate such a panic can be. All while keeping potentially very deep and dark emotions on an approachable level for the general, non-obsessively depressive, audience through the playfulness of his memories and visually captivating (IMO) effects and set transitions.

We all tend to try to hold on to things we are familiar with, even if those things are destructive. This guy is just stuck in that and will likely realize very soon after why they left each other to begin with. Hopefully, the character will be in a better, clearer headspace to find a more mature path for closure at that time. I think it's great if the viewer reads all this as romantic, but I've always been more interested in how the cinematic elements all come together to magnify and offer a window into confusing this panic with an overly romanticized idea of lost love.

...my take anyway. Still made my list, so neener neener, chicken deener.

dadgumblah
01-24-22, 08:45 PM
I'll unveil 2 more. Man on Fire was my number 1. It made the millennium list, but it didn't have a shot in hell here. I'm probably even the only one who voted it, but it's the most badass Denzel performance and that includes Training Day.

About Elly was my 25 and it's among my favorite foreign films. It could have certainly been higher on a different day, but then again the 2000s is loaded with favorites for me.

1. Man On Fire (2004)
2. Mystic River (2003)
3. Million Dollar Baby (2004)
4. Gladiator (2000)
5.
6.
7.
8. Iron Man (2008)
9. Casino Royale (2006)
10. Finding Nemo (2003)
11. Gran Torino (2008)
12. Crash (2004)
13. Lost in Translation (2003)
14. Inside Man (2006)
15. The Prestige (2006)
16. Up (2009)
17.
18. WALL·E (2008)
19.
20. Spider-Man 2 (2004)
21. The Dark Knight (2008)
22.
23. A Beautiful Mind (2001)
24. Sideways (2004)
25. About Elly (2009)


Raul, I'm not one to reveal my entire list before the end, but because you revealed your #1, I'll say that Man on Fire made my list also. I love that movie and think it's one of Denzel's finest performances.

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is another film that I've watched most of and enjoyed but something happened to interfere with finishing it. It hasn't showed up again after that last airing on a cable channel I've had and I've searched but to no avail. I will keep trying because I have to know how it ends. I only had about 20 minutes to go on the movie and I hate not finishing a movie!

#2. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King 8
#3. The Dark Knight 10
#4. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers 15
#5. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl 63
#8. Unbreakable 62
#10. Million Dollar Baby 57
#15. Shaun of the Dead 20
#18. The Royal Tenenbaums 35
#20. Iron Man 83
#21. Finding Nemo 44
#22. Fantastic Mr. Fox 70
#23. The Descent 80
#25. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang 76
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Harry Lime
01-24-22, 08:47 PM
Eternal Sunshine just missed my list after a rewatch for the countdown. The love is very real. It is romantic. I've been there. Actually, I'm kind of there right now to be honest. A second chance after an attempt to erase it. Drawn back together, our flaws and all. I won't get too deep in the details but I think it's real, right, this film. I should have included it instead of leaving it off assuming the film would make the top 10 without me.

Thief
01-24-22, 09:14 PM
Trivia

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Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

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Did you know that...


screenwriter Charlie Kaufman tried to leave the project after Memento was released? He was worried that the themes of memory and "erasure" were too similar, but one of the studio heads, Steve Golin, made him complete the script.
Elijah Wood and Mark Ruffalo improvised most of their lines?
Kate Winslet said in an interview to Empire magazine that this was her favorite performance?
Jim Carrey, who was suffering from a depressive episode when they were about to start filming, has said that director Michel Gondry told him once "you are so beautiful right now. You are so broken... please don't get well."? Carrey said about a decade later about it "that's how ****ed up this business is."


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6d/25/c1/6d25c11d7ed22a39f6b27617b25f88ee.jpg

PHOENIX74
01-24-22, 10:05 PM
6. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind : Achingly poignant, this film really hits me hard every time I watch it and really is the apex of Charlie Kaufman's creative mind with Michel Gondry somehow producing a film that grows with stature as time goes by. Jim Carrey's ability to completely transform himself into the shy and old-fashioned Joel opposite Kate Winslet's free-spirited Clementine really proved to me his acting ability - The Truman Show hadn't been that great a leap from the parts he usually plays. Overall, a good chunk of this film takes place in the mind of Joel as he travels back in time and his memories are erased, only then realising the value of them and desperately trying to save them. Our memories serve a purpose - especially the bad ones, so the thought of humans being able to recklessly rub them out is a frightening vision of the future. This is remedied by Kirsten Dunst's character, and the choice both Joel and Clementine decide to make at the end of the film. The method used to portray the destruction of memories is inventive and feels very much like the inner workings of the mind - dreamlike and ghostly. But most importantly of all, this is a love story - one that follows a path heretofore unexplored with endings and beginnings in places that we don't at first realise. It's a beautiful film - and my #4.

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Films I've seen : 82
Films that have been on my radar : 7
Films I've never even heard of : 6

Films from my list : 15 (+2)

#6 - My #4 - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
#11 - My #5 - Memento (2000)
#12 - My #12 - In the Mood for Love (2000)
#32 - My #7 - Lost in Translation (2003)
#39 - My #17 - Sideways (2004)
#43 - My #2 - Adaptation (2002)
#49 - My #8 - Dancer in the Dark (2000)
#51 - My #6 - The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007)
#56 - My #20 - In Bruges (2008)
#59 - My #16 - The Secret in Their Eyes (2009)
#66 - My #9 - A Serious Man (2009)
#71 - My #23 - Snatch (2000)
#78 - My #13 - The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (2005)
#84 - My #21 - The Man Who Wasn't There (2001)
One pointer - World's Greatest Dad (2009)
#102 - My #10 - Little Miss Sunshine (2006)
#109 - My #19 - Michael Clayton (2007)

pahaK
01-24-22, 10:16 PM
I haven't seen Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. It's never felt too interesting to me.

Seen: 51/95


1. Let the Right One In (2008) [#29]
5. Watchmen (2009) [#87]
6. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) [#15]
7. Rambo (2008)[DNP]
8. The Descent (2005) [#80]
9. Suicide Club (2001)[DNP]
13. The Children (2008) [DNP]
16. Tideland (2005)[DNP]
18. Battle Royale (2000) [#77]
19. Chocolate (2008) [DNP]
20. Pan's Labyrinth (2006) [#7]
22. Noroi (2005) [DNP]
23. [REC] (2007)[DNP]
25. Harry Brown (2009) [1-pointer]

ynwtf
01-24-22, 10:38 PM
I haven't seen Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. It's never felt too interesting to me.



Felt like a round disc, to me.


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DeliciousSilkyAdamsstaghornedbeetle-size_restricted.gif

ynwtf
01-24-22, 10:39 PM
Ok. I'm done for the day before I get banned or driven out of the village by torch and pitchfork.

Thief
01-24-22, 11:17 PM
Here's a 15 minute interview with Jim Carrey and Michel Gondry about Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3ok1W-8Ds8

Wyldesyde19
01-24-22, 11:37 PM
Ok. I'm done for the day before I get banned or driven out of the village by torch and pitchfork.


*puts away his torch and pitch fork*

Good call….

Holden Pike
01-25-22, 03:05 AM
Here are the six from my ballot that didn't make the collective Top 100...

84744

Götz Spielmann's Revanche (2008) is a beautiful film about revenge, guilt, and forgiveness surrounding the aftermath of a bank robbery. It is a very Noirish plot but develops into something much deeper, a meditation on loss and consequences. The undercurrent of possible violence remains throughout, but ultimately the human beings involved separate from their wrath-filled archetypes. It is a very good film. I had it as my third pick. I knew it had little chance of actually making the countdown but I had to be true to myself. If you've never seen it check it out, and maybe when this list is rebooted again in ten or fifteen years it will find its way into the collective?


84745

Also from 2008, Ari Folman's animated confessional Waltz with Bashir was my fourth choice. With all of the PIXARs I knew would be on the list as well as Miyazaki somewhere near the top, again, I didn't realistically hold out much hope this bit of animation would make the list. But I included it because I think it is brilliant and beautiful. Blending autobiography, documentary, history, and memory into this animated feature is such an unexpected concoction that mesmerizes me. Ari Folman meets up with a friend he hasn't seen in years, a man who is being haunted by nightmares of their time serving as Israeli soldiers in the 1982 Lebanon War. In Proust-like fashion Folman searches through time and memory to piece together things he has been repressing himself. It all would have worked as a straight documentary or as a drama, but the otherworldly vibrance of the entire thing being animated is trippy and in the end compelling in a way more traditional representations of the story likely could not have achieved.


84746

Pedro Almodóvar's continuously expanding cinematic legacy is simply amazing, and to date Hable con Ella - Talk to Her is my favorite among favorites. That no Almodóvar movies made it in one of his strongest decades is both perplexing and maybe telling. I don't believe there are a consensus one or three of his films that are universally considered to be his very best. Maybe his output is so voluminous and they're all so damn good that even among his fans and in his professional critical praise there are simply too many favorites? Whatever vagaries of balloting kept him off of this list it is a bit of a glaring omission. No Almodóvar films made our MoFo Top 100 Foreign Films List either, which also seems almost impossible and perhaps even criminal (in a cinemaniac sense). Talk to Her was all the way up at number six for me. The stories of these two men and the comatose women they love is super frickin' dark and sexy and unsettling and beautiful and tragic and funny. In a word, Almodóvar!


84747

Curtis Hanson's adaptation of Michael Chabon's Wonder Boys (2000) is witty and funny and elegant and apparently it isn't well-enough remembered by MoFos to make the cut. Maybe it suffers a bit in that Hanson, who died in 2016, has a filmography that is highlighted in the middle by two excellent book adaptations in L.A. Confidential and Wonder Boys, but surrounded by objectively much less prestigious and memorable movies on either side - decent if routine thrillers like The Hand That Rocks the Cradle and The River Wild before, and then all over the map afterwards with 8 Mile, In Her Shoes, Lucky You, and Chasing Mavericks? The success of L.A. Confidential coupled with the great script drew an amazing cast, headlined by Michael Douglas in what I think is easily the performance of his career, Frances McDormand, Robert Downey Jr., and Tobey Maguire with every single supporting role likewise filled to perfection. The movie is often laugh-out-loud funny with a terrific tone that mirrors the weariness and promise embodied by the two main novelists in the story. It plays like a 21st Century Billy Wilder piece for this fan and I love the damn thing. It was eleventh on my ballot and could have easily been even higher. Hell, maybe it's just the English Major in me?

84748

I had Gangs of New York on my ballot at number twenty-three. Martin Scorsese is my all-time favorite filmmaker if forced to choose just one, but this decade, despite finally winning him that Oscar, is not one of his strongest. The Departed is the only title to make the list. I have already detailed what I think about that movie. Scorsese only had three total narrative features in the decade - Gangs of New York, The Aviator, and The Departed - versus six films in the 1990s and five in 2010s. That is partly because Gangs of New York and The Aviator were both huge, expensive period pieces with long pre and post-production periods. I like both of them just about equally but ultimately chose Gangs somewhat strategically guessing the towering, over-the-top fun of Daniel Day-Lewis' Bill the Butcher, like the work in the P.T. Anderson flick that made the Top Five, might have it appear on enough MoFo ballots to crack the Top 100. My guess was wrong and instead had I given those three little points to The Aviator it would have just made it. Strategy-shmattegy.

Scorsese had been trying to get Gangs of New York made since the 1970s. The advent of the digital age finally made it feasible by the 2000s. Marty's first foray into the world of digital effects leaves his movie with a look unlike anything he had made before, but the tale of brutality and revenge on the mean streets of Manhattan is of course right in line with his oeuvre. While not top tier Scorsese I like it significantly more than The Departed and find as the years go by that as I watch it more and more it rises in both my esteem and his filmography.


84749

This was a very strong decade for Clint Eastwood, and though Mystic River and Million Dollar Baby both won multiple Oscars and both made this countdown, for my taste his masterpiece in this period and one of his greatest films is Letters from Iwo Jima (2006). I had it as my one-pointer. That it was not revealed at the beginning of this countdown means at least one other person had it on their ballot. I hope there were more than two of us. Clint made a pair of films on the subject of the infamous WWII battle, the first being Flags of Our Fathers about the men who hoisted the Stars and Stripes in one of the most iconic photos of the 20th Century. That was adapted from a best-selling book and seemed poised for greatness. But even as a massive Eastwood fan I found that film surprisingly ineffective. So I went into Letters from Iwo Jima, which would show the battle from the Japanese perspective, with lowered expectations. As disappointed as I was with Flags, Letters was harrowing and beautiful and moving. It is another vote that I figured would be wasted in that it was unlikely to make the cut, but I had to show some love for what I think is one of the finest War films ever made.

I have two more coming in our MoFo Top Five, but here is the rest of my ballot...

HOLDEN’S BALLOT
1. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (#86)
2. Dancer in the Dark (#49)
3. Revanche (DNP)
4. Waltz with Bashir (DNP)
5. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (#6)
6. Talk to Her (DNP)
7. Children of Men (#17)
8. Amélie (#16)
9. The Lives of Others (#41)
10. The Pianist (#31)
11. Wonder Boys (DNP)
13. Zodiac (#9)
14. Synecdoche, New York (#46)
15. Moon (#48)
16. Fantastic Mr. Fox (#70)
17. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (#92)
18. A Serious Man (#66)
19. Adaptation. (#43)
20. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (#51)
21. Downfall (#28)
23. Gangs of New York (DNP)
24. Memento (#11)
25. Letters from Iwo Jima (DNP)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9EKqQWPjyo

Kaplan
01-25-22, 04:34 AM
This was a very strong decade for Clint Eastwood, and though Mystic River and Million Dollar Baby both won multiple Oscars and both made this countdown, for my taste his masterpiece in this period and one of his greatest films is Letters from Iwo Jima (2006). I had it as my one-pointer. That it was not revealed at the beginning of this countdown means at least one other person had it on their ballot. I hope there were more than two of us. Clint made a pair of films on the subject of the infamous WWII battle, the first being Flags of Our Fathers about the men who hoisted the Stars and Stripes in one of the most iconic photos of the 20th Century. That was adapted from a best-selling book and seemed poised for greatness. But even as a massive Eastwood fan I found that film surprisingly ineffective. So I went into Letters from Iwo Jima, which would show the battle from the Japanese perspective, with lowered expectations. As disappointed as I was with Flags, Letters was harrowing and beautiful and moving. It is another vote that I figured would be wasted in that it was unlikely to make the cut, but I had to show some love for what I think is one of the finest War films ever made.


Coincidentally, I also had Letters from Iwo Jima as my 1-pointer, though I figured since Mark had included it on his list of foreign language films, he might include it on this list. At the time Flags of Our Fathers came out, there seemed the possibility it could be a great film--until I saw it. Letters was everything Flags was supposed to be.

I also like all the other films from your list that didn't make it, including the very underappreciated Wonder Boys, which I've watched a few times. And I considered Gangs of New York. That was a film I didn't fully appreciate until I saw it a second time years later and I realized what a tremendous film Scorsese had made.

Holden Pike
01-25-22, 04:56 AM
I also like all the other films from your list that didn't make it, including the very underappreciated Wonder Boys, which I've watched a few times.

Wonder Boys was #39 on the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium List but fell all the way off. The Fountain (#31) and Talk to Her (#35) were the only higher-placed eligible films from that list to also not make it this time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sveK_fhIqhs

rauldc14
01-25-22, 08:31 AM
25 2000s films from the millennium list didn't make the cut here, a true representation of voting pattern shifts here at Mofo, for better or worse.

Thief
01-25-22, 09:09 AM
25 2000s films from the millennium list didn't make the cut here, a true representation of voting pattern shifts here at Mofo, for better or worse.

Which ones didn't make it?

Holden Pike
01-25-22, 09:27 AM
I count twenty-six: The Fountain, Talk to Her, Wonder Boys, A History of Violence, Ghost World, Solaris, Crash, Signs, Gran Torino, Gone Baby Gone, Road to Perdition, Hero, Man on Fire, Gangs of New York, Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring, Brick, King Kong, Traffic, Once, Lars and the Real Girl, Good Night and Good Luck, The Darjeeling Limited, American Splendor, Brotherhood of the Wolf, Black Dynamite, and The Bourne Identity. Plus another dozen 2010 or 2011 titles that were ineligible: The Social Network, Inception, Black Swan, Toy Story 3, The King's Speech, Drive, True Grit, The Tree of Life, The Help, The Artist, Rise of the Planet of the Apes, and The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.

84757

crumbsroom
01-25-22, 09:53 AM
Ghost World
Once
American Splendor




I think these are the only ones that I even considered that didn't make my list. Most of the others weren't even briefly contemplated. Also, haven't seen a few (Spring Summer etc, Brotherhood of the Wolf, Goodnight and Goodluck), that are vaguely in my wheelhouse that I should probably get around to.

TheUsualSuspect
01-25-22, 10:01 AM
I count twenty-six: The Fountain, Talk to Her, Wonder Boys, A History of Violence, Ghost World, Solaris, Crash, Signs, Gran Torino, Gone Baby Gone, Road to Perdition, Hero, Man on Fire, Gangs of New York, Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring, Brick, King Kong, Traffic, Once, Lars and the Real Girl, Good Night and Good Luck, The Darjeeling Limited, American Splendor, Brotherhood of the Wolf, Black Dynamite, and The Bourne Identity. Plus another dozen 2010 or 2011 titles that were ineligible: The Social Network, Inception, Black Swan, Toy Story 3, The King's Speech, Drive, True Grit, The Tree of Life, The Help, The Artist, Rise of the Planet of the Apes, and The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.

I feel like I'm always alone in liking The Darjeeling Limited. I would always take some comfort in thinking at least people liked it more than Steve Zissou, but according to this list, that is not the case.

Sedai
01-25-22, 10:04 AM
I count twenty-six: The Fountain, Talk to Her, Wonder Boys, A History of Violence, Ghost World, Solaris, Crash, Signs, Gran Torino, Gone Baby Gone, Road to Perdition, Hero, Man on Fire, Gangs of New York, Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring, Brick, King Kong, Traffic, Once, Lars and the Real Girl, Good Night and Good Luck, The Darjeeling Limited, American Splendor, Brotherhood of the Wolf, Black Dynamite, and The Bourne Identity. Plus another dozen 2010 or 2011 titles that were ineligible: The Social Network, Inception, Black Swan, Toy Story 3, The King's Speech, Drive, True Grit, The Tree of Life, The Help, The Artist, Rise of the Planet of the Apes, and The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.

Yimou's Hero was on my ballot, but...

I figured it had about as much chance of making the list as the titular lead had of surviving that final volley of arrows...

Thief
01-25-22, 11:00 AM
528 points, 28 listsSpirited Away (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/129-spirited-away.html)Director
Hayao Miyazaki, 2001

Starring
Rumi Hiiragi, Miyu Irino, Mari Natsuki, Takashi Naitō

Thief
01-25-22, 11:01 AM
Seen it, but no vote.

I saw this for the first time in 2018; it was my second Studio Ghibli film, after Princess Mononoke, and just like that one, I really didn't jive with it. Here's the review I wrote (https://letterboxd.com/thief12/film/spirited-away/) back when I saw it. To be fair, anime is not a "genre" I'm used to, although there are a few ones I've liked. I remember that back in Corrie, Takoma did offer some thoughts and feedback about my issues with the film which helped put some things in context, but I would need to give it a rewatch to see how it fares now.


As it is...

Seen: 79/96


1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6. Memento (#11)
7. Synecdoche, New York (#46)
8.
9. Kill Bill Vol. 1 (#14)
10. Zodiac (#9)
11. Requiem for a Dream (#26)
12.
13. The Prestige (#38)
14.
15.
16.
17. Once (#103)
18.
19.
20. Pan's Labyrinth (#7)
21. Before Sunset (#42)
22.
23. Mother (#96)
24.
25.

pahaK
01-25-22, 11:07 AM
Spirited Away is on the short list of animes I've seen. I remember it being quite nice, probably the best Ghibli film I've seen.

Seen: 52/96


1. Let the Right One In (2008) [#29]
5. Watchmen (2009) [#87]
6. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) [#15]
7. Rambo (2008)[DNP]
8. The Descent (2005) [#80]
9. Suicide Club (2001)[DNP]
10. Dog Soldiers (2002)[DNP]
13. The Children (2008) [DNP]
16. Tideland (2005)[DNP]
18. Battle Royale (2000) [#77]
19. Chocolate (2008) [DNP]
20. Pan's Labyrinth (2006) [#7]
22. Noroi (2005) [DNP]
23. [REC] (2007)[DNP]
24. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2009)[DNP]
25. Harry Brown (2009) [1-pointer]

ueno_station54
01-25-22, 11:12 AM
was never my favourite Ghibli film but i definitely remember liking it a lot. haven't seen any of them in at least a decade tho.

ScarletLion
01-25-22, 11:13 AM
Not seen spirited away yet but I do intend to.

Miss Vicky
01-25-22, 11:13 AM
Studio Ghibli makes some very good looking movies. The trouble is, they also make movies that I don't like and Spirited Away is not an exception to that.

I'm slightly annoyed that this is the highest placing animated film. Damn Miyazaki. :rolleyes:

Chypmunk
01-25-22, 11:16 AM
Simply love the imagination of Spirited Away, my favourite anime of those I've seen so naturally I'm delighted to see it this high up on the list.


Seen: 67/96 (Own: 46/96)

1. WALL·E (2008) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0910970/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#13]
2. Zodiac (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443706/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#9]
3. Madeo [Mother] (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216496/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#96]
4. Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi [Spirited Away] (2001) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0245429/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#5]
5. Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain [Amélie] (2001) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0211915/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#16]
6. Moon (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182345/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#48]
7. El laberinto del fauno [Pan's Labyrinth] (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0457430/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#7]
8. Der Untergang [Downfall] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#28]
10. Fa yeung nin wah [In The Mood For Love] (2000) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118694/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#12]
11. Oldeuboi [Oldboy] (2003) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364569/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3) [#22]
12. The Departed (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407887/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#19]
15. Låt den rätte komma in [Let The Right One In] (2008) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1139797/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#29]
16. The Descent (2005) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#80]
19. Kiraware Matsuko no isshô [Memories Of Matsuko] (2006) - dnp
21. Dare mo shiranai [Nobody Knows] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0408664/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
22. Bin-jip [3-Iron] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0423866/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
23. Hak se wui: Yi woo wai kwai [Election 2] (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0491244/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
24. Control (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421082/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_6) - dnp
25. The Pool (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0911024/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_6) [1-ptr]



Faildictions (millennial edition v1.01):
26. Superbad (2007)
25. Memento (2000) [11]
24. Road To Perdition (2002)
23. The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers (2002) [15]
22. Shrek (2001)
21. Requiem For A Dream (2000) [26]
20. Oldboy (2003) [22]
19. Inglourious Basterds (2009) [18]
18. Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind (2004) [6]
17. City Of God (2002) [25]
16. In The Mood For Love (2000) [12]
15. O Brother Where Art Thou? (2000) [21]
14. Children Of Men (2006) [17]
13. Amélie (2001) [16]
12. Zodiac (2007) [9]
11. WALL·E (2008) [13]
10. The Departed (2006) [19]
9. The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring (2001)
8. Shaun Of The Dead (2004) [20]
7. Mulholland Drive (2001)
6. Pan's Labyrinth (2006) [7]
5. There Will Be Blood (2007)
4. The Dark Knight (2008) [10]
3. Spirited Away (2001) [5]
2. The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King (2003) [8]
1. No Country For Old Men (2007)

And then, as aunt Agatha would say, there was one......

Holden Pike
01-25-22, 11:18 AM
84756

Hayao Miyazaki’s Spirited Away jumps up from #26 on the MoFo Top 100 Millennium List. It was also #95 on the original MoFo Top 100, improved to #39 on the MoFo Top 100 Reboot, and #3 on the MoFo Top 100 Animated Films list

Allaby
01-25-22, 11:19 AM
Spirited Away is an excellent film that I like a lot, but it didn't make my ballot. I'm glad to see it on the list though, as it is deserving.

rauldc14
01-25-22, 11:24 AM
I thought Spendor made it so that's where my error was. Whoops.

It was easy to recognize Spirited would be 5 out of these last films though.

TheUsualSuspect
01-25-22, 11:26 AM
21. Spirited Away (2001)

My (at the time) 3 year old watched this movie and loved it. He laughed at the pigs eating the food, was scared of the glob monster and the entire film kept his attention until the very end. Which was my biggest surprise. We went on a Ghibli binge and watched Howl's Moving Castle, Princess Mononoke (Don't judge me) and My Neighbor Totoro. I think he liked Howl's Moving Castle the best because of the "old lady" and the "talking fire guy". He's 5 now, I wonder if a revisit would still keep his attention.

His favourite film is Edward Scissorhands.

My wife hates that he wants to watch "scary movies" or scenes that involve bodily harm. He tells me to get to the bad guys part of Home Alone, skipping 85% of the film. My little one, who is 2, loved TMNT, Three Ninjas and the recent Disney film, Under Wraps. I think I need to get him onto some Ghibli.

We were able to watch them because the all went to Netflix in the two years I think.

TheUsualSuspect
01-25-22, 11:30 AM
1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
2. The Dark Knight (2008)
3.
4. Amélie (2001)
5. The Royal Tenenbaums (2001)
6. The Pianist (2002)
7.
8. Memento (2000)
9. Zodiac (2007)
10. City of God (2002)
11.
12.
13. Lost in Translation (2003)
14. Sin City (2005)
15. Hot Fuzz (2007)
16. Up (2009)
17. WALL·E (2008)
18. Requiem for a Dream (2000)
19. The Departed (2006)
20. Battle Royale (2000)
21. Spirited Away (2001)
22. Oldboy (2003)
23. Inglourious Basterds (2009)
24. Kung Fu Hustle (2004)
25. American Psycho (2000)

4 movies left, 4 spots.

ynwtf
01-25-22, 11:41 AM
Yimou's Hero was on my ballot, but...


Hero was in my starting mental list of considerations, but given the cap at 25, I ended up having to consolidate some films with a single representation of a genre, or sorts. Like, had I nominated a LotR entry, I probably could only reasonably place one, else waste up to two spots for other movies/genres. Unless I just REALLY loved all three way more than most other movies. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was this for Hero and Kung Fu Hustle, sadly.

Spirited Away was also briefly a consideration. While it's a beautifully layered movie, I just liked others far more to handicap toward a genre that I don't get to watch as much.

I REALLY hate only having 25 spots. I feel like it has to be 50 to really be representative of my favorites while showing more context of measure between each other. Without the crunch, I could add in two or three anime flicks, or three to five solid comedies, each ranked against each other relative to a greater list rather than holding my breath as I am forced to choose just one. Even some genres go completely unrepresented! I'm sure I'd change my mind if I had to sort a 50-spot list though, and I'm sure that requirement might dissuade a lot of users from participating due to time investment and a dooming sense of obligation. I get it, but I don't have to like it.

As others have posted some of their lists, I'll add that I chose to include Coraline as my #22 spot. This was a reluctant measure of one film against another, such as Spirited Away, where I felt that SOME movies deserved to make the list but ended in a weird internal civil war until one film had so many "checks" that it felt wrong NOT to include it. Even if that meant cutting several other near equally deserving titles. I really hate that.



eh.

CosmicRunaway
01-25-22, 11:48 AM
While Hayao Miyazaki's work is often visually appealing, it's very rare for one of his films to actually engage me. I wish I could single out something specific and say that it's the culprit, but I have no idea what it is. Compared to his other films, Spirited Away is definitely one of his best, but that's not exactly the high praise it should be.

Seen: 63/96

Sedai
01-25-22, 11:52 AM
As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I find Spirited Away to be somewhat overrated. My daughter will watch both Kiki's Delivery Service and My Neighbor Totoro over and over, but she bails on Spirited Away fairly quickly. I stuck around to watch the entire thing, but I found myself checking my watch a couple of times - it just didn't grab me like some of the other Ghibli flicks.

seanc
01-25-22, 11:58 AM
Spirited Away has become my favorite Miyazaki. Watched it recently and gave it a 4/5. Really imaginative and super cool to look at. #5 is way too high n a list like this for my tastes though. No vote from me.

John Dumbear
01-25-22, 12:16 PM
Oh goodie, another cartoon...

CosmicRunaway
01-25-22, 12:20 PM
While we're on the subject of animation, I guess I'll bring up the two animated films left on my ballot that clearly aren't making the Countdown now.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/912407762290322510/A08102E8B7F45A6DD0B32BDA3F21565B087CD13E/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false


04. Tokyo Godfathers (2003)

With Millennium Actress and Paprika also on my list, it's probably no surprise that I included another Satoshi Kon film. Unlike those other two entries, Tokyo Godfathers isn't a seamless blend of fantasy and reality. Though ridiculous at times, it's a far more grounded film that is often as harsh as it is humorous.

It's actually the only one of Kon's films that I loved from my first viewing. The others had to grow on me over time (and a rewatch or two). Perhaps my opinion of this one will eventually fall, but for now I hold it in very high regard. It was my #4.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/3af5472a749955725fc3fe3c3496e270/tumblr_orceqpTEOl1ui7oe1o1_500.gif


24. Cowboy Bebop: The Movie (2001)

In retrospect, I might not have included this if this Countdown had taken place a few months earlier or later. But when I was making my list, friends of mine were suddenly talking about the series again due to the Netflix adaptation, and I had enjoyed the film a lot more when I rewatched it for the 2nd Animated Film HoF.

Cowboy Bebop made great use of lightning and cinematic angles that, while very common in live action films, were still fairly unusual for animation at the time. In another rare occurrence for an anime from the late 90s/early 2000s, the English dub (which I checked out for my rewatch) was also surprisingly well done. I didn't appreciate the film much when it was new, but I have something of a soft spot for it now. It was the very last addition to my list at #24, as I already had my 1-pointer locked in.

MovieFan1988
01-25-22, 12:21 PM
The final 4 predictions

The Notebook
Paul Blart 2
Napoleon Dynamite
Paul Blart

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Just messin

SpelingError
01-25-22, 12:28 PM
The final 4 predictions

The Notebook
Paul Blart 2
Napoleon Dynamite
Paul Blart

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Just messin
How come you left out Battlefield Earth? That's an unforgivable mistake.

John Dumbear
01-25-22, 12:30 PM
A couple more reveals that had no shot, but still considered my favorites of the decade.



1. Pan's Labyrinth
2. City of God
3. Children of Men
4. Let the Right One In
5. Requiem for a Dream
6. 0%
7. Sideways
8. In Bruges
9. Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?
10. 80%
11. 0%
12. The Last King of Scotland
13. Quills
14. 0%
15. Old Boy
16. The Wrestler
17. 28 Days Later
18. 0%
19. Shaun of the Dead
20. Black Snake Moan
21. 0%
22. Sherrybaby
23. Before the Devil Knows Your Dead
24. American Psycho
25. The OH in Ohio 1-ptr



Have seen so far: 57/ 96
Put on list for future viewing: 13
My list that ended up on the cutting room floor (dammit!): 6
Put on "meh" list : 23
Zero chance of ever watching: 16
1 Ptrs: seen 8

Thief
01-25-22, 12:31 PM
Critics

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Critics thoughts on our #5, Spirited Away...

https://i.imgur.com/NGsTR9L.png

It currently has a 97% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 8.6/10 score on IMDb (with 714,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★★ and said:

"Miyazaki's drawing style, which descends from the classical Japanese graphic artists, is a pleasure to regard, with its subtle use of colors, clear lines, rich detail and its realistic depiction of fantastical elements. He suggests not just the appearances of his characters, but their natures. Apart from the stories and dialogue, Spirited Away is a pleasure to regard just for itself. This is one of the year's best films."

Meanwhile David Cornelius, of eFilmCritic.com, said:

"Spirited Away is a movie that's often great to look at, but not that much fun to watch, if that makes sense. The animation is lively, and Miyazaki ... once again shows he's a master of visual imagery. But this means nothing if the story doesn't connect. The ideas shown here would make a nifty picture book, but tying the random creations together without a workable plotline causes the audience to lose interest."

As for our MoFo reviewers, Steve Freeling said:

"[Spirited Away] is every bit as relevant and engrossing in 2021 as it was in 2001 (if not more so), as touching as it is beautiful, as haunting as it is poignant, and as captivating as it is unforgettable ... Its core story of overcoming one's fears continues to satisfy time and again with repeated viewings, its characters are all too easy to get invested in all over again, its animation continues to amaze with each new watch, the voice acting is faultless in both English and Japanese, and Joe Hisaishi's musical score continues to send a chill down the spine. The film is uplifting, poignant, exciting, emotionally satisfying, and consistently rewarding with repeated viewings."

And TylerDurden99 said:

"It's evident to me that director Hayao Miyazaki struggles with the tone in this film, and what the film is trying to be. In one scene, it's a loss of innocence, coming of age story, and in others, it's a foreboding, mysterious, supernatural Alice In Wonderland. It works for the most part, but you can feel it all slowly unravelling throughout. And at two hours, it could've been about 20 minutes shorter."

Thief
01-25-22, 12:32 PM
Trailer

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByXuk9QqQkk

MovieFan1988
01-25-22, 12:35 PM
How come you left out Battlefield Earth? That's an unforgivable mistake.

haha, I was trying to think of a 4th movie and the notebook just popped into my mind lol

Miss Vicky
01-25-22, 12:50 PM
I’ll wait until after the countdown is complete to reveal my full ballot, but from the recent posts people have made about their favorites that missed the cut, I see I have one each in common with Holden, Cosmic, and John Dumbear. :cool:

Thief
01-25-22, 12:53 PM
For those curious enough, Spirited Away got the following:

1st Place: 5 ballots
2nd Place: 4 ballots
3rd Place: 1 ballot
4th Place: 3 ballots
5th Place: 2 ballots

6th Place or less: 13 ballots

Curiously enough, it got more 1st Place votes than the films that ended up at #1 and #4.

John W Constantine
01-25-22, 12:54 PM
I feel like I'm always alone in liking The Darjeeling Limited.


You're not, and I'm a little surprised this one didn't make it.

KeyserCorleone
01-25-22, 12:59 PM
My number 1 prediction was wrong. Spirited Away was my #4. I knew this would make top ten just as much as anyone else here knew, but to be fair, I was surprised at the magnificent reception the film got when I first found out. I saw it years ago in school and was in love with it since, but I had no idea everybody gave it the Godfather treatment.

Sent-In Ballot:

#2. Oldboy (22)
#3. Sin City (47)
#4. Spirited Away (5)
#5. Requiem for a Dream (26)
#6. Memento (11)
#7. Yi Yi (49)
#8. The Departed (19)
#9. The Dark Knight (10)
#10. Casino Royale (37)
#11. Eternal Sunshine (6)
#13. Million Dollar Baby (57)
#15. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (53)
#16. Let the Right One In (29)
#19. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (8)
#20. Iron Man (83)
#21. Inglourious Basterds (18)
#22. Pirates of the Caribbean (63)
#25. Hot Fuzz (30)

Post-Ballot:

#2. Oldboy (22)
#3. Sin City (47)
#4. Spirited Away (5)
#5. Requiem for a Dream (26)
#6. Memento (11)
#7. Yi Yi (49)
#8. The Departed (19)
#9. The Dark Knight (10)
#10. Casino Royale (37)
#11. Eternal Sunshine (6)
#12. Snatch (71)
#14. Million Dollar Baby (57)
#16. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (53)
#17. Let the Right One In (29)
#18. Slumdog Millionaire (not placed but it made my new 25)
#19. Monsters, Inc. (74)
#21. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (8)
#22. Iron Man (83)
#23. Fantastic Mr. Fox (70)
#24. Inglourious Basterds (18)
#25. Pirates of the Caribbean (63)

Seen 58/96

Deschain
01-25-22, 01:02 PM
I’ve only seen a handful of Miyazakis and they all kinda blend together so it’s hard to remember which ones. I know I’ve seen the one where the witch girl delivers mail and the one with the Totoro, and one about a castle and a guy on a pogo stick? Maybe I haven’t seen Spiritied Away. The witch girl delivering mail was my favorite.

donniedarko
01-25-22, 01:07 PM
I did like Spirited Away more than I had expected to, but anime has just never spoken to me, even with all my friends falling into the recent rise of it. I did watch a few episodes of Death Note with my girlfriend , and that one was solid. Wish I liked it all more, would be a brand new media for me to get into

donniedarko
01-25-22, 01:08 PM
I count twenty-six: The Fountain, Talk to Her, Wonder Boys, A History of Violence, Ghost World, Solaris, Crash, Signs, Gran Torino, Gone Baby Gone, Road to Perdition, Hero, Man on Fire, Gangs of New York, Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring, Brick, King Kong, Traffic, Once, Lars and the Real Girl, Good Night and Good Luck, The Darjeeling Limited, American Splendor, Brotherhood of the Wolf, Black Dynamite, and The Bourne Identity.

84757

Not much of value lost here :o

donniedarko
01-25-22, 01:09 PM
Sorry I'll stop being Minio now

I'm delighted that Mulholland Drive is getting such a high spot

mrblond
01-25-22, 01:12 PM
For those curious enough, Spirited Away got the following:

1st Place: 5 ballots
2nd Place: 4 ballots
3rd Place: 1 ballot
4th Place: 3 ballots
5th Place: 2 ballots

6th Place or less: 13 ballots


Definitely, my ballot is not one of these.
I saw Spirited Away about two years ago and found it not as much impressive as the fashion rulers claim. :skeptical:

mark f
01-25-22, 02:00 PM
Spirited Away is toppish Miyazaki, a bizarre but surprisingly relatable fantasy that's massively popular. I had it at #18, so it must have hypnotized me too into forgetting a few other movies.

My List

1. The Incredibles
2. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
3. King Kong
5. Ratatouille
7. Downfall
8. Up
9. The Dark Knight
10. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
11. Everything Will Be OK
12. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
13. Talk to Her
14. Tell No One
15. WALL·E
16. Children of Men
17. Pan's Labyrinth
18. Spirited Away
19. The Pianist
20. A.I. Artificial Intelligence
21. Pride & Prejudice
22. Hotel Rwanda
25. City of Life and Death

Citizen Rules
01-25-22, 02:09 PM
Spirited Away is the first anime film I truly was blown away by. I'm not a big animation fan though I do like Pixars and studio Ghibli.

This is the last movie on the countdown that I've seen and loved, so it's the last time I'll post my reviews. I believe I had some interesting things to say about Spirited Away so hopefully somebody will take the time to read this:

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=22920&stc=1&d=1445622046

Spirited Away(Hayao Miyazaki, 2001)


Spirited Away is so richly detailed with wonderfully interesting spirit characters. The story both written and directed by Miyazaki excels in 'world building' much like Ridley Scott did in Blade Runner. We're treated to a uniquely different world with its on set of rules and traditions. And we're showing many aspects of that world, from deep in the ground where coal is stoked into the fires by little dust creatures to the upper world of the bath house with it's own characters and ways of doing things.

The bath house was immense like some castle labyrinth, I want to go there! Each room had it's own interesting design. Every time we enter a new room there's something fascinating to see. In some ways this reminded me of the Alice in Wonderland, stories with a new adventure at every turn!

I loved that the animators understood the relationship between lighting and color gradients. Much care was given to making the film look real and three dimensional. I was impressed that cinematography camera angles were used. We get low angle and overhand shots, fly by shots and more. Just like a well made live action film, Spirited Away has amazing cinematography, lighting and sets.

rating_5

rauldc14
01-25-22, 02:24 PM
Spirited Away was 5 for me. My favorite animation film of all time. My last film to appear too.

MovieMeditation
01-25-22, 03:51 PM
Never been huge on anime. But it shouldn’t hold back a great film. I love all genres but somehow anime doesn’t always hit. Some do though but I’ve never loved Spirited Away as much as everybody else. I’ve seen it more than once and I truly admire it, but I don’t love it.

No vote for me.

Thief
01-25-22, 04:16 PM
Awards

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Now to the awards received by Spirited Away...



Academy Award for Best Animated Feature
Saturn Award for Best Animated Film
AARP Movies for Grownups Award for Best Movie for Grownups Who Refuse to Grow Up
Awards Circuit Community Award for Best Animated Feature Film
Blue Ribbon Award for Best Film
Award for the Japanese Academy for Best Film and Best Song (Yumi Kimura)
Cambridge Film Festival Audience Award for Best Film
Hong Kong Film Award for Best Film
Jeonju Film Festival Audience Award
National Board of Review Award for Best Animated Feature
Golden Satellite Award for Best Motion Picture, Animated or Mixed Media


Among many, many others.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxU6xN8o9r8

Thief
01-25-22, 04:47 PM
Trivia

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Spirited Away

https://i.imgur.com/QF25NpU.png

Did you know that...


writer and director Hayao Miyazaki didn't work from a script? According to interviews, he never has the story "finished and ready" when production starts, and the story develops from his storyboards with him not knowing where the plot will go. "It's not me who makes the film. The film makes itself and I have no choice but to follow".
the film was the first anime to be nominated for an Academy Award (and obviously, win it)? It was also the longest film nominated in that category, with a runtime of 125 minutes.
John Lasseter, who oversaw the English dubbing, was a fan and friend of Miyazaki?


https://i.imgur.com/xVQwpej.jpg

Steve Freeling
01-25-22, 05:14 PM
I guess a glance at my favorite movies list makes it obvious this was my #1. It cracked the top five, too. I wasn't expecting it to make it that high until a couple of days ago.

SpelingError
01-25-22, 05:34 PM
I haven't seen Spirited Away since I was a kid, so it wasn't on my ballot, but I remember liking it a lot. I should rewatch it someday.

Thief
01-25-22, 05:44 PM
Here's a nice interview with Hayao Miyazaki, about Spirited Away...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVBVzBLmMX0

Harry Lime
01-25-22, 06:30 PM
Spirited Away made my list at #13.

3. Yi Yi (2000)
4. Werckmeister Harmonies (2000)
5. City of God (2002)
6. Caché (2005)
7. In the Mood for Love (2000)
8. WALL·E (2008)
9. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (2005)
11. Children of Men (2006)
13. Spirited Away (2001)
17. Shaun of the Dead (2004)
22. The Aviator (2004)
25. Atanarjuat: The Fast Runner (2001)

cricket
01-25-22, 07:10 PM
Have seen Spirited Away twice and after a promising start it just loses me. Or I lose it.

ApexPredator
01-25-22, 07:14 PM
Haven't seen Spirited Away...or much in the way of Ghibli. I think I've seen only The Wind Rises from there.

Anime is a weak spot for me, but I'm definitely receptive based on my favorable opinion on Ghost in the Shell which I've seen in the last 2 years or so.

Thief
01-25-22, 08:42 PM
Some nice articles and essays on Spirited Away...

On Hayao Miyazaki's 'Spirited Away' and the Anxieties of Growing Up (https://collider.com/spirited-away-themes-symbolism-explained/)

"What drives Spirited Away is not just the fantastical nature of the narrative but wanting Chihiro to triumph despite her circumstances. Her resilience is the true driving force behind the film that has withstood the test of time. People go back to this film because it takes them back to their childhoods, where the anxieties of being unloved, abandoned, judged, and criticized were always present. Chihiro is not that different from the child everyone once was."


Chihiro's Journey: Analyzing "Spirited Away" (https://www.rogerebert.com/far-flung-correspondents/chihiros-journey-analyzing-spirited-away)

"Chihiro has been characterized as whiny, but I think if you understand her situation and contrast her intuitiveness with her parents' obliviousness, she seems less so."

edarsenal
01-25-22, 09:15 PM
https://media1.giphy.com/media/IUuvcxRoiXZgA/source.gif


Spirited Away

Aogaeru: Welcome the rich man, he's hard for you to miss. His butt keeps getting bigger, so there's plenty there to kiss!

While I tried to watch films in their original language, I came across this dubbed version which I was rather happy about. Since Chihiro was voiced by Daveigh Chase, who had done Lilo in Lilo and Stitch was ideal for voicing her. Along with Susan Pleshette doing both Yubaba and Zeniba.

I have yet to see all of Hayao Miyazaki's films, and while I've always loved the artwork in them, I do kinda meander off, attention-wise. Not with this one. I vaguely remember seeing this in a movie theater that specialized in arthouse films when this came out. So, this was very much like a first-time view, and I enjoyed Chihiro's character from the first moment I saw her glumly looking out the car window as they passed her new school, and she stuck her tongue out at it.

This is a film about loneliness, consumption, and the attempt to fill one's emptiness by consumption. All of which is beautifully expressed using the usual fantastical cosmos that Miyazaki is so skilled at rendering. Something I always seem to get more caught up in than the "meaning" and heart lessons that Miyazaki teaches within his films. Which appear to register after the film is complete, and my heart informs my brain what my eyes have been experiencing and the whys within the beautiful imagery.


Additionally, my #16 is Kung Fu Hustle (2004)

https://i.imgur.com/JXyDvgu.gif?noredirect
https://c.tenor.com/yOjp7jo5nDUAAAAC/kung-fu-hustle-snake-fist.gif

Equal parts comedy and homage to the seventies kung fu films, Director/Writer Stephen Chow plays the leading role of a bumbling wannabe gangster who runs afoul of the Axe Gang and a very dangerous landlady in Pig Sty Alley. He eventually discovers that he just might be a Kung Fu master.
A favorite film that we've watched over and over and over again in dubbed because the dialogue is funnier than in the subtitled version.



Films Watched 70 out of 96 (72.91%)
1. Amélie (#16)
2. O Brother, Where Art Thou? (#21)
3. Ratatouille (#23)
4.
5. Gladiator (#40)
6. Pan's Labyrinth (#7)
7.
8. The Incredibles (#36)
9. V for Vendetta (#58)
10. The Dark Knight (#10)
11. WALL·E (#13)
12.
13. Memories of Murder (#27)
14. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (#76)
15.
16. Kung Fu Hustle (2004)
17. Mother (#96)
18. The Departed (#19)
19. The Beat That My Heart Skipped (2005)
20. Memento (#11)
21. In the Mood for Love (#12)
22. Downfall (#28)
23. Quills (#67)
24. Oldboy (#22)
25. A Bittersweet Life (One Pointer)


One Pointers: 10 out of 38 (26.31%)

dadgumblah
01-25-22, 10:10 PM
https://media1.giphy.com/media/IUuvcxRoiXZgA/source.gif


Spirited Away

Aogaeru: Welcome the rich man, he's hard for you to miss. His butt keeps getting bigger, so there's plenty there to kiss!

While I tried to watch films in their original language, I came across this dubbed version which I was rather happy about. Since Chihiro was voiced by Daveigh Chase, who had done Lilo in Lilo and Stitch was ideal for voicing her. Along with Susan Pleshette doing both Yubaba and Zeniba.

I have yet to see all of Hayao Miyazaki's films, and while I've always loved the artwork in them, I do kinda meander off, attention-wise. Not with this one. I vaguely remember seeing this in a movie theater that specialized in arthouse films when this came out. So, this was very much like a first-time view, and I enjoyed Chihiro's character from the first moment I saw her glumly looking out the car window as they passed her new school, and she stuck her tongue out at it and continued to throughout.

This is a film about loneliness, consumption, and the attempt to fill one's emptiness by consumption. All of which is beautifully expressed using the usual fantastical cosmos that Miyazaki is so skilled at rendering. Something I always seem to get more caught up in than the "meaning" and heart lessons that Miyazaki teaches within his films. Which appear to register after the film is complete, and my heart informs my brain what my eyes have been experiencing and the whys within the beautiful imagery.


Additionally, my #16 is Kung Fu Hustle (2004)

https://i.imgur.com/JXyDvgu.gif?noredirect
https://c.tenor.com/yOjp7jo5nDUAAAAC/kung-fu-hustle-snake-fist.gif

Equal parts comedy and homage to the seventies kung fu films, Director/Writer Stephen Chow plays the leading role of a bumbling wannabe gangster who runs afoul of the Axe Gang and a very dangerous landlady in Pig Sty Alley. He eventually discovers that he just might be a Kung Fu master.
A favorite film that we've watched over and over and over again in dubbed because the dialogue is funnier than in the subtitled version.



Films Watched 70 out of 96 (72.91%)
1. Amélie (#16)
2. O Brother, Where Art Thou? (#21)
3. Ratatouille (#23)
4.
5. Gladiator (#40)
6. Pan's Labyrinth (#7)
7.
8. The Incredibles (#36)
9. V for Vendetta (#58)
10. The Dark Knight (#10)
11. WALL·E (#13)
12.
13. Memories of Murder (#27)
14. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (#76)
15.
16. Kung Fu Hustle (2004)
17. Mother (#96)
18. The Departed (#19)
19. The Beat That My Heart Skipped (2005)
20. Memento (#11)
21. In the Mood for Love (#12)
22. Downfall (#28)
23. Quills (#67)
24. Oldboy (#22)
25. A Bittersweet Life (One Pointer)


One Pointers: 10 out of 38 (26.31%)

I love Kung Fu Hustle too! Didn't somebody else put this on their list? The landlady is one of my favorite characters in any movie ever! Such a fun time. I need to break that DVD out and soon! In hindsight, I wish I had put it on my list but there were a few I like as much that I swapped for, and now I'm sure they won't make it. Oh, well.

I don't think I've seen Spirited Away. I know I've seen another Miyazaki film a while back but I think it was Princess Mononoke. Looking at the clips from it, I'm pretty sure that was the one. I've not delved too deeply into Anime but I'm open to it.

#2. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King 8
#3. The Dark Knight 10
#4. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers 15
#5. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl 63
#8. Unbreakable 62
#10. Million Dollar Baby 57
#15. Shaun of the Dead 20
#18. The Royal Tenenbaums 35
#20. Iron Man 83
#21. Finding Nemo 44
#22. Fantastic Mr. Fox 70
#23. The Descent 80
#25. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang 76

Citizen Rules
01-25-22, 10:42 PM
No more from my list will be showing up. So here it is! Obviously my taste is a lot different than most MoFos, hence all the red.

1. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007) #51
2. Wendy and Lucy (2008)
3. Still Walking (2008) #101
4. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World (2003) #100
5. Amélie (2001) #16
6. Cast Away (2000) #69
7. Catch Me If You Can (2002) #72
8. Chicago (2002)
9. V for Vendetta (2006) #58
10. Downfall (2004) #28
11. Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (2004) Yes, seriously!
12. Goodbye Lenin! (2003)
13. Good Night, and Good Luck. (2005)
14. Gran Torino (2008) Can't believe this didn't make it
15. In the Mood for Love (2000) #12
16. School of Rock (2003)
17. Moon (2009) #48
18. Open Range (2003)
19. Best in Show (2000)
20. Riding in Cars with Boys (2001)
21. Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day (2008)
22. Antwone Fisher (2002)
23. Donnie Darko (2001) #24
24. Starsky & Hutch (2004) Yes! I'm serious again
25. My Dinner with Jimi (2003) My one pointer

Harry Lime
01-25-22, 10:49 PM
Wendy and Lucy, and Good Night and Good Luck are great films, CR. Could have made my top 100. I think I had 13 from my list that didn't make the countdown - just over half.

rauldc14
01-25-22, 10:53 PM
No more from my list will be showing up. So here it is! Obviously my taste is a lot different than most MoFos, hence all the red.

1. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007) #51
2. Wendy and Lucy (2008)
3. Still Walking (2008) #101
4. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World (2003) #100
5. Amélie (2001) #16
6. Cast Away (2000) #69
7. Catch Me If You Can (2002) #72
8. Chicago (2002)
9. V for Vendetta (2006) #58
10. Downfall (2004) #28
11. Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (2004) Yes, seriously!
12. Goodbye Lenin! (2003)
13. Good Night, and Good Luck. (2005)
14. Gran Torino (2008) Can't believe this didn't make it
15. In the Mood for Love (2000) #12
16. School of Rock (2003)
17. Moon (2009) #48
18. Open Range (2003)
19. Best in Show (2000)
20. Riding in Cars with Boys (2001)
21. Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day (2008)
22. Antwone Fisher (2002)
23. Donnie Darko (2001) #24
24. Starsky & Hutch (2004) Yes! I'm serious again
25. My Dinner with Jimi (2003) My one pointer


Big thumbs up for Anyone Fisher and Gran Torino. Fisher was a difficult last minute cut on my list.

Citizen Rules
01-25-22, 11:02 PM
Wendy and Lucy, and Good Night and Good Luck are great films, CR. Could have made my top 100. I think I had 13 from my list that didn't make the countdown - just over half.I thought both of those had a chance to make the countdown, but nope.

Big thumbs up for Antwone Fisher and Gran Torino. Fisher was a difficult last minute cut on my list.I assume you had Gran Torino on your list?

edarsenal
01-25-22, 11:06 PM
I love Kung Fu Hustle too! Didn't somebody else put this on their list? The landlady is one of my favorite characters in any movie ever! Such a fun time. I need to break that DVD out and soon! In hindsight, I wish I had put it on my list but there were a few I like as much that I swapped for, and now I'm sure they won't make it. Oh, well.

I don't think I've seen Spirited Away. I know I've seen another Miyazaki film a while back but I think it was Princess Mononoke. Looking at the clips from it, I'm pretty sure that was the one. I've not delved too deeply into Anime but I'm open to it.

#2. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King 8
#3. The Dark Knight 10
#4. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers 15
#5. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl 63
#8. Unbreakable 62
#10. Million Dollar Baby 57
#15. Shaun of the Dead 20
#18. The Royal Tenenbaums 35
#20. Iron Man 83
#21. Finding Nemo 44
#22. Fantastic Mr. Fox 70
#23. The Descent 80
#25. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang 76

If I remember correctly, it was TUS (@TheUsualSuspect) that talked about it.

edarsenal
01-25-22, 11:09 PM
No more from my list will be showing up. So here it is! Obviously my taste is a lot different than most MoFos, hence all the red.

1. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007) #51
2. Wendy and Lucy (2008)
3. Still Walking (2008) #101
4. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World (2003) #100
5. Amélie (2001) #16
6. Cast Away (2000) #69
7. Catch Me If You Can (2002) #72
8. Chicago (2002)
9. V for Vendetta (2006) #58
10. Downfall (2004) #28
11. Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (2004) Yes, seriously!
12. Goodbye Lenin! (2003)
13. Good Night, and Good Luck. (2005)
14. Gran Torino (2008) Can't believe this didn't make it
15. In the Mood for Love (2000) #12
16. School of Rock (2003)
17. Moon (2009) #48
18. Open Range (2003)
19. Best in Show (2000)
20. Riding in Cars with Boys (2001)
21. Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day (2008)
22. Antwone Fisher (2002)
23. Donnie Darko (2001) #24
24. Starsky & Hutch (2004) Yes! I'm serious again
25. My Dinner with Jimi (2003) My one pointer

Great little list.
I CANNOT believe I forgot all about Open Range. That would've been in my Top Five easy:rolleyes::facepalm::bawling:

Citizen Rules
01-25-22, 11:12 PM
Great little list.
I CANNOT believe I forgot all about Open Range. That would've been in my Top Five easy:rolleyes::facepalm::bawling:And you're the reason I seen it too:p Actually several of those on there are HoF noms that I seen for the first time thanks to the people who nominated them.

Thief
01-25-22, 11:42 PM
Before heading out to bed, here are some Spirited Away games, courtesy of Sporcle...

Can you name the sequential order of these scenes from the movie 'Spirited Away? (https://www.sporcle.com/games/MrChewypoo/something-you-wouldnt-recognize)

Can you name the Spirited Away characters by picture? (https://www.sporcle.com/games/koko2349/spirited-away-characters-by-picture-copy)

ynwtf
01-26-22, 12:04 AM
Great little list.
I CANNOT believe I forgot all about Open Range. That would've been in my Top Five easy:rolleyes::facepalm::bawling:


I didn't think about it until like a week ago, =\

Iroquois
01-26-22, 12:55 AM
Spirited Away was my #3. One of those films where not voting for it would've just felt wrong.

gbgoodies
01-26-22, 02:01 AM
I rewatched Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind for this list, and it was even better than I remembered it. With this movie, Jim Carrey proved that he can do more than just a bunch of crazy comedy movies. It was #19 on my list.

I've watched Spirited Away a few times, but I don't really understand the spirit world, and I just don't get the love for this movie.


I don't expect anything else from my list to make the countdown, (unless there's one he!! of a shocker coming up :lol:), but I'll wait until the countdown is over to post my compete list.

My list so far:
1. WALL·E (2008)
2. Monsters, Inc. (2001)
19. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
24. Ocean's Eleven (2001)
25. Beyond the Sea (2004)

CosmicRunaway
01-26-22, 06:34 AM
12. Goodbye Lenin! (2003)
I nominated Goodbye Lenin! for the first Hall of Fame I joined here, and it's nice to see someone still liked it enough to have it on their list as well. :heart:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/LiquidFrighteningHuemul-size_restricted.gif


07. Goodbye Lenin! (2003)

A comedy about trying to keep German reunification a secret from your ill, Party-supporting mother is actually more accessible than you'd expect. Some of the political satire might be missed, but to copy what I said in the 11th HoF, nostalgia for a place that no longer exists and the desire to create an idealized world, even if it is only for the sake of a sick family member, is not something you need to be German to understand.

This film was my first introduction to Daniel Brühl (an actor I'm quite fond of), and it's his performance that sticks out to me the most - other than the flying statue, of course haha. It's clever, and heart-warming, and in my opinion: criminally under-seen. It was #7 on my list.

11. Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (2004) Yes, seriously!
Anchorman is pretty funny. I've watched it a couple of times. 👍

rauldc14
01-26-22, 10:16 AM
I'm as confident as can be that it's Mulholland today. Those top 3 are just too popular here.

rauldc14
01-26-22, 10:17 AM
And you're the reason I seen it too:p Actually several of those on there are HoF noms that I seen for the first time thanks to the people who nominated them.

Nowhere near my list, but I did enjoy open range. Anchorman is pretty good. It definitely would deserve a spot on a comedy countdown which maybe is where we are headed next.

Sedai
01-26-22, 10:21 AM
Agreed - It just HAS to be Mulholland Drive.

Thief
01-26-22, 11:15 AM
592 points, 35 listsMulholland Drive (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/1018-mulholland-drive.html)Director
David Lynch, 2001

Starring
Naomi Watts, Laura Harring, Justin Theroux, Ann Miller

Thief
01-26-22, 11:15 AM
Mulholland Drive was my #2.

I've shared this story before, but I rented this back in 2001, and saw it three times back-to-back-to-back. I was just so mesmerized by it that I couldn't stop thinking about it. I've seen it 3 or 4 times since and every time I find myself caught up in it. For anyone interested...


This is a review (https://letterboxd.com/thief12/film/mulholland-drive/1/) I wrote when I last rewatched it in June 2021.
This is an episode of my podcast (https://www.buzzsprout.com/850063/8768663-thief-s-monthly-movie-loot-special-episode-vi-mulholland-drive.mp3?download=true) I dedicated to one scene (Club Silencio), but I talk in general about my experience with the film.


I think I say this in both my review and the podcast, but I think it captures how I feel about the film pretty well, even if it sounds cliché... and I see this as a film that doesn't need to be understood, but rather felt. Every time I see it, I find myself so emotionally drawn to it, especially during that climatic scene at Club Silencio. I love it.


3 more to go!...

Seen: 79/97


1.
2. Mulholland Drive (#4)
3.
4.
5.
6. Memento (#11)
7. Synecdoche, New York (#46)
8.
9. Kill Bill Vol. 1 (#14)
10. Zodiac (#9)
11. Requiem for a Dream (#26)
12.
13. The Prestige (#38)
14.
15.
16.
17. Once (#103)
18.
19.
20. Pan's Labyrinth (#7)
21. Before Sunset (#42)
22.
23. Mother (#96)
24.
25.

seanc
01-26-22, 11:24 AM
My mind was way too invested in this being number 4 behind the 3 coming. I just don’t appreciate this film at all. I don’t think it looks particularly good. I don’t think there is a puzzle to be solved. I don’t find it creepy. I don’t think there is anything going on thematically. It is simply one of those movies I don’t “get”. I’m sure I must be wrong, but I honestly don’t ever see myself giving it two more hours to find out. Mulholland Drive was my #15






;)

Rockatansky
01-26-22, 11:28 AM
That should have been #1. :mad:

ueno_station54
01-26-22, 11:28 AM
Mulholland Drive was #2 on my list

Chypmunk
01-26-22, 11:30 AM
Mulholland Dr. is another I watched during the prep period for this countdown and, though it not making my personal ballot was probably unlikely, that rewatch did maybe gain it a couple of spots.


Seen: 68/97 (Own: 47/97)

1. WALL·E (2008) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0910970/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#13]
2. Zodiac (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443706/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#9]
3. Madeo [Mother] (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216496/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#96]
4. Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi [Spirited Away] (2001) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0245429/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#5]
5. Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain [Amélie] (2001) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0211915/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#16]
6. Moon (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182345/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#48]
7. El laberinto del fauno [Pan's Labyrinth] (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0457430/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#7]
8. Der Untergang [Downfall] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#28]
10. Fa yeung nin wah [In The Mood For Love] (2000) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118694/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#12]
11. Oldeuboi [Oldboy] (2003) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364569/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3) [#22]
12. The Departed (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407887/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#19]
15. Låt den rätte komma in [Let The Right One In] (2008) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1139797/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#29]
16. The Descent (2005) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#80]
17. Mulholland Dr. (2001) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166924/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#4]
18, Oasiseu [Oasis] (2002) - dnp
19. Kiraware Matsuko no isshô [Memories Of Matsuko] (2006) - dnp
21. Dare mo shiranai [Nobody Knows] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0408664/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
22. Bin-jip [3-Iron] (2004) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0423866/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
23. Hak se wui: Yi woo wai kwai [Election 2] (2006) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0491244/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) - dnp
24. Control (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421082/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_6) - dnp
25. The Pool (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0911024/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_6) [1-ptr]


Faildictions (millennial edition v1.01):
26. Superbad (2007)
25. Memento (2000) [11]
24. Road To Perdition (2002)
23. The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers (2002) [15]
22. Shrek (2001)
21. Requiem For A Dream (2000) [26]
20. Oldboy (2003) [22]
19. Inglourious Basterds (2009) [18]
18. Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind (2004) [6]
17. City Of God (2002) [25]
16. In The Mood For Love (2000) [12]
15. O Brother Where Art Thou? (2000) [21]
14. Children Of Men (2006) [17]
13. Amélie (2001) [16]
12. Zodiac (2007) [9]
11. WALL·E (2008) [13]
10. The Departed (2006) [19]
9. The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring (2001)
8. Shaun Of The Dead (2004) [20]
7. Mulholland Drive (2001) [4]
6. Pan's Labyrinth (2006) [7]
5. There Will Be Blood (2007)
4. The Dark Knight (2008) [10]
3. Spirited Away (2001) [5]
2. The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King (2003) [8]
1. No Country For Old Men (2007)

Still aunt Agatha-ing with the final Faildiction, chance of success just dropped 8% though.......

Holden Pike
01-26-22, 11:31 AM
84774

David Lynch’s Mulholland Dr. was #4 on the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium List and #66 on the MoFo Top 100 Refresh.

mark f
01-26-22, 11:43 AM
Mulholland Dr. is another film everybody seems to love, but I only slightly like. My favorite scene is when Naomi Watts "acts" with Chad Everett. That's "real" and doesn't need twists to make commentary about Hollywood vs. reality. I guess I'm just a wet blanket, sitting all alone in the corner at this big party Lynch is having with everyone else. I do think the film is interesting and leads to some thought-provoking ideas but I'm just not fully drawn in. Sometimes I find Lynch's atmosphere and "audacity" downright silly, but I do find this one better than most.

It pretty much made sense to me the first time - at least my interpretation. Then I read the experts and their explanation deflated me and the film. Are there really any films which don't allow someone to "engage" with them? It seems that opposite ones engage people who are looking for "opposite things". I don't want my films to be spoon-fed, but I'd like to know my interpretations partially agree with what the creator intended. If not, why isn't someone's interpretation of a film as "idiotic nonsense" make as much sense as the interpretation of it as "poetic beauty"? Sorry about the comments. They're not meant as a debate or a popularity contest because I'll lose that. Just think of it as the loyal opposition saying hello and telling you to have fun as much as you can because sometimes I apparently don't. :)

I'll champion a normal film - my #6, The Heart of the World.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4JmeXXRmZg
My List

1. The Incredibles
2. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
3. King Kong
5. Ratatouille
6. The Heart of the World
7. Downfall
8. Up
9. The Dark Knight
10. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
11. Everything Will Be OK
12. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
13. Talk to Her
14. Tell No One
15. WALL·E
16. Children of Men
17. Pan's Labyrinth
18. Spirited Away
19. The Pianist
20. A.I. Artificial Intelligence
21. Pride & Prejudice
22. Hotel Rwanda
25. City of Life and Death

Tugg
01-26-22, 11:44 AM
Mulholland Drive was #6 on my ballot.

rauldc14
01-26-22, 11:50 AM
Definitely didn't vote for Mulholland. Seen it 3 times but other than Watts performance it really doesn't do all that much for me.

Wedding Crashers was my 6 and among my favorite comedies ever. The cast is perfect for me and the laughs are aplenty.

Ghost World was my 22. It is a chill movie that works really well for me and I really enjoy Birch in it. I thought it would have made this countdown, but I was wrong.

1. Man on Fire (2004)
2. Mystic River (2003)
3. Million Dollar Baby (2004)
4. Gladiator (2000)
5. Spirited Away (2001)
6. Wedding Crashers (2005)
7.
8. Iron Man (2008)
9. Casino Royale (2006)
10. Finding Nemo (2003)
11. Gran Torino (2008)
12. Crash (2004)
13. Lost in Translation (2003)
14. Inside Man (2006)
15. The Prestige (2006)
16. Up (2009)
17.
18. WALL·E (2008)
19.
20. Spider-Man 2 (2004)
21. The Dark Knight (2008)
22. Ghost World (2001)
23. A Beautiful Mind (2001)
24. Sideways (2004)
25. About Elly (2009)

Thief
01-26-22, 11:59 AM
Critics

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Critics thoughts on our #4, Mulholland Drive...

https://i.imgur.com/irw5FWN.png

It currently has an 84% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 7.9/10 score on IMDb (with 343,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★★ and said:

"This is a movie to surrender yourself to. If you require logic, see something else. Mulholland Drive works directly on the emotions, like music. Individual scenes play well by themselves, as they do in dreams, but they don't connect in a way that makes sense--again, like dreams."

Meanwhile Rex Reed, of Observer, said:

"A load of moronic and incoherent garbage."

As for our MoFo reviewers, Thief :D said:

"I think the way Lynch manages to pull and create emotion out of this web of seemingly unrelated and unexplainable events is simply magical, peaking with that magnificent scene at Club Silencio."

And Citizen Rules said:

"Well...I kinda, sorta, liked it...I guess. Then again, I'm not really sure. I guess it's closer to the truth to say there was stuff I liked about it and other stuff that I thought should've been left on the editing room floor."

kgaard
01-26-22, 11:59 AM
Miyazaki is a director I admire more than love (with the so-far exceptions of Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind and My Neighbor Totoro, both of which I do love), and so while I appreciate Spirited Away, I didn't vote for it.

Mulholland Dr. was my #2--only my personal affection for Hedwig could keep it from #1. I’ll only add that the Club Silencio scene is among my favorite scenes in film ever.

Thief
01-26-22, 12:01 PM
Trailer

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbZJ487oJlY

Sedai
01-26-22, 12:03 PM
Mulholland Drive was my #4

There was a time years ago, where this would have been a shoe-in for my #1 for the decade, and I may have even tried to sneak it onto my list twice, just to get it extra points!

Ask any old school MoFo, and they can attest to my constant prattling on about Lynch's Mulholland Drive in the years following its release; I was completely obsessed. Like Thief, I had a somewhat similar experience with my initial viewings of the film, except that I absolutely hated it the first time I watched it. After the film ended, I grabbed the rented DVD, jumped in my car, and drove it back to Blockbuster Video to get something else to watch. I complained so loudly, the guy actually extended me a free rental that evening.

Two days later, I couldn't stop thinking about the film. So I did what any sane person would do with a film I hated when they watched it - I bought the DVD immediately! I think I watched it another 4-5 times that week, and from that very first frame on my second viewing and on forward, I considered everything about the film to be perfection.

These days, I have somewhat cooled on the film, but I still think it is a masterwork of surreal noir. I recall Roger Ebert becoming obsessed with this film around the same time I did, enough so that he was holding special screenings with his colleagues to discuss the film. At one point he said something along the lines of, and I am paraphrasing here, "Mulholland Drive is ahead of its time, and these days, is nothing but a niche oddity, worshiped in small, obsessive circles such as the one I belong to. In 20 years time, it will be recognized as the magnificent achievement in cinema it clearly is."

I think that is right about now, and here we are, at #4 overall.

https://cinemontage.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/MulhollandDr_Feature-678x381.jpg

"It will be just like in the movies...we can pretend to be somebody else."

CosmicRunaway
01-26-22, 12:04 PM
I've seen Mulholland Drive, but it was a rather long time ago and it's definitely overdue for a rewatch. My memory of the film is quite hazy, and I don't even recall how I felt about it overall.

Seen: 64/97

Since I didn't have much to say about today's reveal, I'll touch on a few more films from my list that clearly did not make the cut. Today's theme is martial arts.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/1846f08a609cdd655e676904a6e560b7/tumblr_o3vnheim0p1v6w3juo1_500.gifv


18. District B13 (2004)

With one of the pioneers of parkour playing a main character, it's probably not shocking that District B13 features an awful lot of stunts that involve running, jumping, and climbing. There are a number of incredible physical feats accomplished without the assistance of wires or CG, and the whole film has this great energy to it that more than makes up for a fairly generic plot.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/658cde062aacc9eb2c04107781be4348/tumblr_oudj3x6n6F1v6w3juo1_500.gifv


21. Merantau (2009)

Speaking of basic premises elevated by impressive action sequences, I recently revisited Merantau and had to include it on my list. This was Gareth Evans' first feature film, and the debut of my favourite action star: Iko Uwais. Evans, Uwais and Yayan Ruhian would later work together on the far more popular Raid series, so fans of those films should check out where the three of them got their start.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/b72214c5b42ffbbc886e6ea08ffb93ff/979a7592ed99aea5-76/s540x810/784595eed627b8adc9ad90def58a70022c32f708.gifv


23. Equilibrium (2002)

I have not rewatched this film in a really long time, so it's possible that it might not hold up, but considering how much I dislike Christian Bale, the fact that I still really enjoyed Equilibrium has to mean something. The cinematography was often very striking, as the dystopian science fiction elements and flashy gun fu set pieces actually went really well together.

Iroquois
01-26-22, 12:13 PM
Mulholland Drive was my #2. To me, it feels more like Lynch's definitive cinematic masterpiece than anything else as it finds the right balance between the various aspects that make his oeuvre as an artist so fascinating - the barely-comprehensible avant-garde, the comical surrealism, and the fundamentally human drama underneath his trademark affectations and signifiers.

Harry Lime
01-26-22, 12:19 PM
Yes, I have to agree with what Iro says above - concise and well put. I also ranked it #2.

2. Mulholland Drive (2001)
3. Yi Yi (2000)
4. Werckmeister Harmonies (2000)
5. City of God (2002)
6. Caché (2005)
7. In the Mood for Love (2000)
8. WALL·E (2008)
9. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (2005)
11. Children of Men (2006)
13. Spirited Away (2001)
17. Shaun of the Dead (2004)
22. The Aviator (2004)
25. Atanarjuat: The Fast Runner (2001)

pahaK
01-26-22, 12:24 PM
I don't remember too much of Mulholland Drive. I think there was some girl-on-girl action, and I had more positive feelings towards it than most other Lynch films. Not really my cup of tea, though.

Seen: 53/97


1. Let the Right One In (2008) [#29]
5. Watchmen (2009) [#87]
6. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) [#15]
7. Rambo (2008)[DNP]
An ultraviolent action that finds pathos in its hero's inability to live the life of peace. That monologue while making the knife is perfect.
8. The Descent (2005) [#80]
9. Suicide Club (2001)[DNP]
One of the greatest opening scenes ever and the first Sono I saw. A weird horror that mostly keeps its silliness in check.
10. Dog Soldiers (2002)[DNP]
The second best werewolf film ever. Brutal, smart, and has an awesome-looking monster.
13. The Children (2008) [DNP]
Very much like Who Can Kill a Child? Very high on the evil children films list.
16. Tideland (2005)[DNP]
A twisted coming-of-age about a little girl who hasn't been dealt a winning hand. Great performances and quality Gilliam visuals.
17. Dark Water (2002)[DNP]
A sad horror film by the director of Ringu. Manages to be both creepy and depressing at the same time.
18. Battle Royale (2000) [#77]
19. Chocolate (2008) [DNP]
A Thai martial arts action with awesome stunts and a likable lead.
20. Pan's Labyrinth (2006) [#7]
21. Antichrist (2009)[DNP]
Another awesome starting scene. Really twisted and bleak psychological horror.
22. Noroi (2005) [DNP]
Kind of a found footage film that tells a story of a haunting in the form of a documentary. Pretty creepy stuff.
23. [REC] (2007)[DNP]
Hey, I wasn't supposed to like found footage but there are two of them on my ballot. Really well-done and has a good twist.
24. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2009)[DNP]
This first film of the Millennium trilogy is probably the best Nordic Noir. It's pretty dark and twisted, so it'll help with me.
25. Harry Brown (2009) [1-pointer]

edarsenal
01-26-22, 12:27 PM
And you're the reason I seen it too:p Actually several of those on there are HoF noms that I seen for the first time thanks to the people who nominated them.

I AM glad you loved it that much. A truly excellent western and d@mn fine movie

Citizen Rules
01-26-22, 12:38 PM
Mulholland Drive, not on my ballot and I liked it well enough. I have no objections to it making the list, in fact I'd be surprised if it didn't place this high. I do think Lynch is one of the all time great directors.


My favorite scene in the movie was Naomi Watts auditioning for a movie role in a crowded room. I've heard actors talk about doing cold auditions like that. Geez that would be very intimidating. I loved how when she read her lines with Chad Everett the scene was one long continuous take, no edits until they were done reading their lines. Very impressive acting from her. Chad Everett wasn't bad either. I liked the guy who played the director as he looked and acted like a director.

Allaby
01-26-22, 12:53 PM
Mulholland Drive was 17th on my ballot. Fantastic film. I have the Criterion blu ray.

Thief
01-26-22, 12:56 PM
Awards

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Now to the awards received by Mulholland Drive...



BAFTA Film Award for Best Editing (Mary Sweeney)
ALMA Award for Outstanding Actress (Laura Harring)
Cannes Film Festival Award for Best Director (David Lynch, tied with Joel Coen)
Chlotrudis Award for Best Director and Original Screenplay (Lynch)
Film Independent Spirit Awards for Best Cinematography (Peter Deming)
Indiewire Critics' Poll Award for Best Film of the Decade
National Board of Review Award for Breakthrough Performance (Naomi Watts)
Online Film & Television Association Award for Best Breakthrough Performance (Watts)
Village Voice Film Poll Award for Best Film of the Decade


Among many, many others.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkBJEynYJtQ

Miss Vicky
01-26-22, 01:01 PM
I've seen four of Lynch's films, including Mulholland Drive, and I'm just not into his brand of weird.

Thief
01-26-22, 01:35 PM
This is what Mulholland Drive got:

1st Place: 4 ballots
2nd Place: 5 ballots
3rd Place: 2 ballots
4th Place: 2 ballots
5th Place: 1 ballot

6th Place or less: 21 ballots

Like Spirited Away yesterday, this one got more 1st Place votes than the film that ended up at #1.

John Dumbear
01-26-22, 01:50 PM
Not a Lynch fan, like at all. The only film of his I liked was "The Elephant Man". Sour grapes on my part in saying a very depressing top ten, so far.

Sedai
01-26-22, 01:58 PM
Not a Lynch fan, like at all. The only film of his I liked was "The Elephant Man". Sour grapes on my part in saying a very depressing top ten, so far.

Have you seen Lynch's Disney film, The Straight Story?

rauldc14
01-26-22, 02:00 PM
This is what Mulholland Drive got:

1st Place: 4 ballots
2nd Place: 5 ballots
3rd Place: 2 ballots
4th Place: 2 ballots
5th Place: 1 ballot

6th Place or less: 21 ballots

Like Spirited Away yesterday, this one got more 1st Place votes than the film that ended up at #1.

Hmmm. Interesting hint that could change my ultimate prediction.

John Dumbear
01-26-22, 02:02 PM
Have you seen Lynch's Disney film, The Straight Story?

Lynch & Disney?!? Now there's a mash-up. Sounds intriging.

Frightened Inmate No. 2
01-26-22, 02:03 PM
mulholland drive is one of the best movies ever made and would've been my #1 for most decades if there weren't three LOTR movies released in this one.

my parents showed me fellowship when i was three years old and the lord of the rings have been my favorite movies ever since, although my actual ranking of the three changes so much as to be practically irrelevant, so i don't really bother except when i have to think about it for lists like this. this time i had the two towers at #3 and the return of the king at #1. my only issue with the latter film is that there aren't enough endings; they could've easily squeezed another 3-4 in there. my rationale for ranking ROTK first this time is that it's the longest and therefore i get to spend the longest time watching it, which in my mind can only be a good thing. it was also one of the first movies i ever saw in the theater, which i had actually forgotten about until my dad reminded me that i pissed my pants in the theater because i didn't want to miss anything by going to the bathroom (i was four). how's that for personal, mr minio?

Sedai
01-26-22, 02:03 PM
Lynch & Disney?!? Now there's a mash-up. Sounds intriging.

Worth a watch for sure, and it shows that Lynch can spin a straight-forward yarn if he so chooses. It's about an old timer that rides his John Deere across multiple states to visit his estranged, ailing brother.

John Dumbear
01-26-22, 02:05 PM
Worth a watch for sure, and it shows that Lynch can spin a straight-forward yarn if he so chooses. It's about an old timer that rides his John Deere across multiple states to visit his estranged, ailing brother.

Now that you described it, sounds vaguely familiar.

donniedarko
01-26-22, 02:09 PM
Can't state enough how much I love Mulholland Drive or put my love into words better than these other MoFos have, but here's my favorite scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNjX3tQMygk&t=55s

My List:
My List
1. The Pianist (2002)
2. Donnie Darko (2001)
3. Mulholland Drive (2001)
6. Oldboy (2003)
8. Gran Torino (2008). (#108)
11. Caché (2005)
12. Ratatouille (2007)
14. Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003)
15. Downfall (2004)
16. Dancer in the Dark (2000)
17. A Serious Man (2009)
18. Requiem for a Dream (2000)
21. Battle Royale (2000)
22. City of God (2002)
24. The Dark Knight (2008)
25. Bellamy (2009. (1 pointer)



And that's it from my list to make it, rooting for No Country to win

MovieFan1988
01-26-22, 02:15 PM
so were allowed to reveal some of the movies on our list now??? I thought we couldn't until the countdown ends? O_O if we are cool just wondering since I see some revealing some of their lists.

John Dumbear
01-26-22, 02:30 PM
Some of us have, which is not of Thief's approval. But feel the reveals have zero shot of making the list. Personally, I'll refrain from doing any more of this until after the countdown.

Sedai
01-26-22, 02:47 PM
I will put my list up after the last title is revealed.

Citizen Rules
01-26-22, 02:50 PM
so were allowed to reveal some of the movies on our list now??? I thought we couldn't until the countdown ends? O_O if we are cool just wondering since I see some revealing some of their lists.Normally I wouldn't post my ballot until after the countdown was over, but Thief previously had posted a list of movies that were near misses...so I figured it was more than fine for us to post are ballots at this late date.

Thief
01-26-22, 03:17 PM
Some of us have, which is not of Thief's approval. But feel the reveals have zero shot of making the list. Personally, I'll refrain from doing any more of this until after the countdown.

This.

ynwtf
01-26-22, 03:40 PM
that.

rauldc14
01-26-22, 03:41 PM
Normally I wouldn't post my ballot until after the countdown was over, but Thief previously had posted a list of movies that were near misses...so I figured it was more than fine for us to post are ballots at this late date.

Yeah, I wouldn't have bit the early reveal of Torino not making it really got to me, so I figured why not. Torino missing a 2000s list is a mockery to me.

Thief
01-26-22, 03:44 PM
Generally speaking I have no issues with people revealing their lists other than it setting a precedent. We have a clear rule not to reveal lists until the countdown is finished, and that has been the rule on every countdown even before I got here. I've only been here for a year, and this is only the third countdown I've participated in so I don't know to what level that is enforced or what issues that might have presented in the past, but it is a rule nonetheless. I know that at this point most people can probably guess what the Top 5 or Top 3 will be, and that what people are revealing are films that "have no chance", but that doesn't make it any less of a guess. So even though the choices of what will make it and what not are probably "clear" here and now, whenever a countdown comes where the choices aren't that clear, some people might argue that there is a precedent to reveal some/all of their lists before the countdown finishes cause "it had been done before" and maybe open the floodgates for more people to do it, thus ruining the experience of the reveals. That's my logic for not endorsing it.

MovieFan1988
01-26-22, 03:44 PM
I will put my list up after the last title is revealed.

I'll be doing the same

Holden Pike
01-26-22, 03:46 PM
In the many years we have been doing these list reveals when you get down to the Top Ten and everybody has noodled through what the handful of movies are that are left, that's when traditionally people start revealing their absolute known misses.

Thief
01-26-22, 04:30 PM
Trivia

-

Mulholland Drive

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Mulholland_drive%28lynch%29--.jpg

Did you know that...


the casting of the three leads bears some weird resemblance to how their characters are introduced? Laura Harring had a minor car accident on her way to her first interview, while Naomi Watts went to her interview straight from the airport. Justin Theroux also went to his first interview after a long flight with little sleep, all dressed in black and with untidy hair. Lynch liked the look and used it for the film.
Adam Kesher smashing the windshield of a producer was inspired by Jack Nicholson doing the same in 1994?
Naomi Watts lost her insurance, faced eviction, and almost quit acting after filming wrapped? It was her friend Nicole Kidman who urged her to wait until the release of the film before returning to Australia.
the Cowboy was played by Monty Montgomery, a producer and longtime friend of Lynch? Allegedly, during his scene with Justin Theroux, he kept forgetting his lines so Theroux had to hold cardboards with them written.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5HEJdcBwM

CosmicRunaway
01-26-22, 04:39 PM
I know that at this point most people can probably guess what the Top 5 or Top 3 will be, and that what people are revealing are films that "have no chance", but that doesn't make it any less of a guess.
With popular films like No Country and Fellowship yet to make a showing, if Merantau and District B13 are somehow in the top 3, feel free to disqualify my entire list for revealing that I voted for them before they showed up on the Countdown.

This late in the thread, I personally like seeing people write about the "no chance films" they voted for. It injects life into the last couple days when the only surprise left is what exact order those last few fan favourites will fall into.

Conversations and guessing games typically die down, so it's nice to have something new to talk about and not have to cram it all into a bloated last day post. As Holden said, this is typically when people start talking about their misses, but that leads into your earlier line about the justification simply being that "it had been done before".

If I knew you felt so strongly about it before, I would've waited until the very end to mention anything not already in the Countdown. Sorry for my contribution in derailing the reveals. I won't post again until it's all said and done. :up:

kgaard
01-26-22, 04:43 PM
Apparently Laura Harring is an honest-to-goodness countess by (brief) marriage. She was married for two years in the late '80s to the great-great grandson of Otto von Bismarck.

Thief
01-26-22, 04:48 PM
With popular films like No Country and Fellowship yet to make a showing, if Merantau and District B13 are somehow in the top 3, feel free to disqualify my entire list for revealing that I voted for them before they showed up on the Countdown.

This late in the thread, I personally like seeing people write about the "no chance films" they voted for. It injects life into the last couple days when the only surprise left is what exact order those last few fan favourites will fall into.

Conversations and guessing games typically die down, so it's nice to have something new to talk about and not have to cram it all into a bloated last day post. As Holden said, this is typically when people start talking about their misses, but that leads into your earlier line about the justification simply being that "it had been done before".

If I knew you felt so strongly about it before, I would've waited until the very end to mention anything not already in the Countdown. Sorry for my contribution in derailing the reveals. I won't post again until it's all said and done. :up:

The first line of my post was "I have no issues with people revealing their lists". If I "felt strongly about it", I would've said or done something about it. Most of you have been revealing your partial ballots and that's ok, I guess. Like Holden said, it's the way it's been done, and once again, "I have no issues". Since the issue was brought up, I offered my reasoning to not encourage it as a host, but I haven't stopped anyone from doing so. So nobody should stop because of that.

Thief
01-26-22, 04:50 PM
Apparently Laura Harring is an honest-to-goodness countess by (brief) marriage. She was married for two years in the late '80s to the great-great grandson of Otto von Bismarck.

Yep. Royalty indeed :cool:

seanc
01-26-22, 04:50 PM
Personally I’m still hoping Nobody Knows pulls off the upset.

Sedai
01-26-22, 04:50 PM
If I knew you felt so strongly about it before, I would've waited until the very end to mention anything not already in the Countdown. Sorry for my contribution in derailing the reveals. I won't post again until it's all said and done. :up:

I didn't get that idea from Thief's post at all. *shrugs*

mark f
01-26-22, 04:51 PM
So nobody should stop because of that.
Sir, yes sir.

John W Constantine
01-26-22, 04:55 PM
I prefer The Straight Story but that's another story for another decade.

Thief
01-26-22, 04:55 PM
Worth a watch for sure, and it shows that Lynch can spin a straight-forward yarn if he so chooses. It's about an old timer that rides his John Deere across multiple states to visit his estranged, ailing brother.

I second this recommendation.

Deschain
01-26-22, 05:00 PM
Can’t wait to mention the movies that made my list but not the countdown.

https://media.giphy.com/media/aabB05cd48fVm/giphy.gif

Chypmunk
01-26-22, 05:01 PM
I always tend to get The Straight Story and The Lawnmower Man muxed ip :shrug:

Sedai
01-26-22, 05:11 PM
I am also looking forward to some of the more obscure titles people had on their lists, so I can add them to my watch (or re-watch) list. Most recently re-watched In the Mood for Love, and started Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind at lunch today as my next re-watch!

Thief
01-26-22, 05:12 PM
I always tend to get The Straight Story and The Lawnmower Man muxed ip :shrug:

Now I'm imagining Richard Farnsworth with one of those glowy spandex suits :laugh:

MovieMeditation
01-26-22, 05:17 PM
I like Lynch, and Mulholland Drive actually worked really well last time I saw it. Think I’ve seen it two or three times.

I think I like some of Lynch’ other work more, but it’s good. As you probably guessed by now, it wasn’t on my list…

Chypmunk
01-26-22, 05:24 PM
Now I'm imagining Richard Farnsworth with one of those glowy spandex suits :laugh:
You can thank me later :D

Thief
01-26-22, 05:25 PM
You can thank me later :D

https://c.tenor.com/rmTiifZgNqIAAAAM/%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%85-laugh.gif

CosmicRunaway
01-26-22, 05:27 PM
The first line of my post was "I have no issues with people revealing their lists". If I "felt strongly about it", I would've said or done something about it.
The "Generally speaking" that proceeded it (implying that it might not be the case now), followed by a list of reasons why you don't like the idea that included the phrase "ruining the experience of the reveals" made me think you really didn't like us posting about these films. I thought this was you finally saying something about it.

I was doing weird logic problems all morning, so I might've been focusing on the wrong parts of what you said.

I didn't get that idea from Thief's post at all. *shrugs*
I probably just misinterpreted what was posted. I just wanted to make it clear that if Thief was actually strongly against it (and I had known that fact), I obviously wouldn't have posted about some of the other films on my list.

I won't post again until it's all said and done. 👍
Also this was supposed to say that I wouldn't post again about my ballot. Too late to edit it now haha.

I was just apologizing for doing something the host seemingly didn't approve of, and explaining why I personally like to see some of this stuff late-Countdown.

SpelingError
01-26-22, 05:38 PM
Mulholland Drive was #12 on my ballot and, if I had rewatched it before I submitted my ballot, it might have even made it higher. The way it builds to its mystery, dispersing some occasional surreal scene throughout it (the diner, the night club, the cowboy) which are juxtaposed against the narrative momentum created by the central mystery involving Betty and Rita - only for Lynch to drastically ramp up the surrealism with the final act is really something. Since the buildup works so well, it's easy to be caught of guard by the final act. Not quite my favorite Lynch, but it's pretty close to it.

1. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (#78)
2. Pan's Labyrinth (#7)
3.
4. Children of Men (#17)
5.
6.
7. A Serious Man (#66)
8.
9. 28 Days Later (#45)
10.
11. Memento (#11)
12. Mulholland Drive (#4)
13. Shaun of the Dead (#20)
14.
15. In the Mood for Love (#12)
16. Requiem For a Dream (#16)
17.
18. The Pianist (#31)
19.
20. Moon (#48)
21.
22.
23. Sunshine (#88)
24. Zodiac (#9)
25. The New World (#99)

dadgumblah
01-26-22, 05:38 PM
Mulholland Dr. is another film everybody seems to love, but I only slightly like. My favorite scene is when Naomi Watts "acts" with Chad Everett. That's "real" and doesn't need twists to make commentary about Hollywood vs. reality. I guess I'm just a wet blanket, sitting all alone in the corner at this big party Lynch is having with everyone else. I do think the film is interesting and leads to some thought-provoking ideas but I'm just not fully drawn in. Sometimes I find Lynch's atmosphere and "audacity" downright silly, but I do find this one better than most.

It pretty much made sense to me the first time - at least my interpretation. Then I read the experts and their explanation deflated me and the film. Are there really any films which don't allow someone to "engage" with them? It seems that opposite ones engage people who are looking for "opposite things". I don't want my films to be spoon-fed, but I'd like to know my interpretations partially agree with what the creator intended. If not, why isn't someone's interpretation of a film as "idiotic nonsense" make as much sense as the interpretation of it as "poetic beauty"? Sorry about the comments. They're not meant as a debate or a popularity contest because I'll lose that. Just think of it as the loyal opposition saying hello and telling you to have fun as much as you can because sometimes I apparently don't. :)

I'll champion a normal film - my #6, The Heart of the World.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4JmeXXRmZg
My List

1. The Incredibles
2. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
3. King Kong
5. Ratatouille
6. The Heart of the World
7. Downfall
8. Up
9. The Dark Knight
10. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
11. Everything Will Be OK
12. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
13. Talk to Her
14. Tell No One
15. WALL·E
16. Children of Men
17. Pan's Labyrinth
18. Spirited Away
19. The Pianist
20. A.I. Artificial Intelligence
21. Pride & Prejudice
22. Hotel Rwanda
25. City of Life and Death

Yeah, mark f and his explanation of his thoughts about Lynch pretty much match mine so no, Mulholland Drive had no chance of making my list. I do have a few Lynch movies that I enjoy but that's for another time.

And Citizen Rules, edarsenal, and ynwtf I also completely forgot about putting Open Range on my list and it definitely would have been in my Top 5. I'm upset about this because I love that film so much. This is what happens when I wait till nearly the last minute to compile my list, thinking I had everything in order. Oy!

#2. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King 8
#3. The Dark Knight 10
#4. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers 15
#5. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl 63
#8. Unbreakable 62
#10. Million Dollar Baby 57
#15. Shaun of the Dead 20
#18. The Royal Tenenbaums 35
#20. Iron Man 83
#21. Finding Nemo 44
#22. Fantastic Mr. Fox 70
#23. The Descent 80
#25. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang 76

Thief
01-26-22, 05:57 PM
The "Generally speaking" that proceeded it (implying that it might not be the case now), followed by a list of reasons why you don't like the idea that included the phrase "ruining the experience of the reveals" made me think you really didn't like us posting about these films. I thought this was you finally saying something about it.


No, man. In general I have no issues, but as a host, I felt I couldn't endorse it nor encourage it. The only reason I gave was that it could "set a precedent", but I'm new here and like Holden said, that's the way it's been done. That's the gist of it. No more, no less.

Sedai
01-26-22, 06:01 PM
A damn fine host, at that!

Thief
01-26-22, 06:15 PM
Just found this interview with David Lynch about Mulholland Drive...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf1sfVpw9OY

MovieMeditation
01-26-22, 06:25 PM
When you realize No Country for Old Men still hasn’t shown…

https://i.gifer.com/embedded/download/yAK.gif

KeyserCorleone
01-26-22, 06:38 PM
Eraserhead was my introduction to Lynch's surreal style, but Mulholland Drive nearly perfected it. That noirish feel really had a say in how my own writing style would develop, even though I thought the film was a little TOO surreal. My number 18.

Sent-In Ballot:

#2. Oldboy (22)
#3. Sin City (47)
#4. Spirited Away (5)
#5. Requiem for a Dream (26)
#6. Memento (11)
#7. Yi Yi (49)
#8. The Departed (19)
#9. The Dark Knight (10)
#10. Casino Royale (37)
#11. Eternal Sunshine (6)
#13. Million Dollar Baby (57)
#15. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (53)
#16. Let the Right One In (29)
#18. Mulholland Drive (4)
#19. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (8)
#20. Iron Man (83)
#21. Inglourious Basterds (18)
#22. Pirates of the Caribbean (63)
#25. Hot Fuzz (30)

Post-Ballot:

#2. Oldboy (22)
#3. Sin City (47)
#4. Spirited Away (5)
#5. Requiem for a Dream (26)
#6. Memento (11)
#7. Yi Yi (49)
#8. The Departed (19)
#9. The Dark Knight (10)
#10. Casino Royale (37)
#11. Eternal Sunshine (6)
#12. Snatch (71)
#14. Million Dollar Baby (57)
#16. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (53)
#17. Let the Right One In (29)
#18. Slumdog Millionaire (not placed but it made my new 25)
#19. Monsters, Inc. (74)
#20. Mulholland Drive (4)
#21. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (8)
#22. Iron Man (83)
#23. Fantastic Mr. Fox (70)
#24. Inglourious Basterds (18)
#25. Pirates of the Caribbean (63)

Seen 59/97

Thief
01-26-22, 07:16 PM
When you realize No Country for Old Men still hasn’t shown…

https://i.gifer.com/embedded/download/yAK.gif

Well, 3 spots left...

https://64.media.tumblr.com/7df63d0eb7c458f64cf729ada63ca42b/78b181b6cb0a049d-57/s500x750/8c1519ed930db4708b137792a8dbf0507f718b0b.gifv

Thief
01-26-22, 07:23 PM
Holden Pike and ynwtf should get a kick out of this game :D

Did these actors appear in the 1996 film 'Mulholland Falls' or the 2001 film 'Mulholland Drive'? (https://www.sporcle.com/games/notsofasto/mulholland-drive-or-mulholland-falls)

MovieMeditation
01-26-22, 07:32 PM
Well, 3 spots left...

https://64.media.tumblr.com/7df63d0eb7c458f64cf729ada63ca42b/78b181b6cb0a049d-57/s500x750/8c1519ed930db4708b137792a8dbf0507f718b0b.gifv
3. Fellowship of the Ring
2. No Country for Old Men
1. There Will Be Blood

edarsenal
01-26-22, 08:05 PM
Have you seen Lynch's Disney film, The Straight Story?

Lynch & Disney?!? Now there's a mash-up. Sounds intriging.

Worth a watch for sure, and it shows that Lynch can spin a straight-forward yarn if he so chooses. It's about an old timer that rides his John Deere across multiple states to visit his estranged, ailing brother.

I was equally surprised when it was nominated for me in a Personal Recommendation Hall of Fame. THOROUGHLY enjoyed it.

edarsenal
01-26-22, 08:13 PM
Generally speaking I have no issues with people revealing their lists other than it setting a precedent. We have a clear rule not to reveal lists until the countdown is finished, and that has been the rule on every countdown even before I got here. I've only been here for a year, and this is only the third countdown I've participated in so I don't know to what level that is enforced or what issues that might have presented in the past, but it is a rule nonetheless. I know that at this point most people can probably guess what the Top 5 or Top 3 will be, and that what people are revealing are films that "have no chance", but that doesn't make it any less of a guess. So even though the choices of what will make it and what not are probably "clear" here and now, whenever a countdown comes where the choices aren't that clear, some people might argue that there is a precedent to reveal some/all of their lists before the countdown finishes cause "it had been done before" and maybe open the floodgates for more people to do it, thus ruining the experience of the reveals. That's my logic for not endorsing it.

In the many years we have been doing these list reveals when you get down to the Top Ten and everybody has noodled through what the handful of movies are that are left, that's when traditionally people start revealing their absolute known misses.

It does and has occurred, but I will respect the wishes of a Host and will discontinue until the end to reveal the remainder of my list.
https://c.tenor.com/fHBk0iPFwfQAAAAC/salute-yes-sir.gif

edarsenal
01-26-22, 08:16 PM
The first line of my post was "I have no issues with people revealing their lists". If I "felt strongly about it", I would've said or done something about it. Most of you have been revealing your partial ballots and that's ok, I guess. Like Holden said, it's the way it's been done, and once again, "I have no issues". Since the issue was brought up, I offered my reasoning to not encourage it as a host, but I haven't stopped anyone from doing so. So nobody should stop because of that.

Tough crab nuggets, I'm waiting anyways, so there.


;)

SpelingError
01-26-22, 08:27 PM
Do you guys think there will be blood tomorrow?

edarsenal
01-26-22, 08:27 PM
And Citizen Rules, edarsenal, and ynwtf I also completely forgot about putting Open Range on my list and it definitely would have been in my Top 5. I'm upset about this because I love that film so much. This is what happens when I wait till nearly the last minute to compile my list, thinking I had everything in order. Oy!

I would happily use that excuse but I'm just a dumb@ss and kept feeling I was forgetting something and normally do. So, whaddya gonna do :shrug:

It's f@ckin AWESOME to hear a fellow fan of it though!

SpelingError
01-26-22, 08:27 PM
My predictions:

3. There Will Be Blood
2. The Fellowship of the Rings
1. No Country for Old Men

edarsenal
01-26-22, 08:32 PM
I remember making a few attempts at Mulholland and drifting off for good or bad.
I DO respect and am not surprised to see it this high.



Films Watched 70 out of 97 (72.16%)
1. Amélie (#16)
2. O Brother, Where Art Thou? (#21)
3. Ratatouille (#23)
4.
5. Gladiator (#40)
6. Pan's Labyrinth (#7)
7.
8. The Incredibles (#36)
9. V for Vendetta (#58)
10. The Dark Knight (#10)
11. WALL·E (#13)
12.
13. Memories of Murder (#27)
14. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (#76)
15.
16. Kung Fu Hustle (2004)
17. Mother (#96)
18. The Departed (#19)
19. The Beat That My Heart Skipped (2005)
20. Memento (#11)
21. In the Mood for Love (#12)
22. Downfall (#28)
23. Quills (#67)
24. Oldboy (#22)
25. A Bittersweet Life (One Pointer)


One Pointers: 10 out of 38 (26.31%)

MovieFan1988
01-26-22, 08:41 PM
Do you guys think there will be blood tomorrow?

Vote for pedro to be the next reveal :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Thief
01-26-22, 09:26 PM
Some neat articles about Mulholland Drive...

Mulholland Drive Explained: Key Themes & Motifs (https://filmcolossus.com/mulholland-drive-5-keys/)

"Director David Lynch has stated during interviews that Mulholland Drive is very much about the 'Hollywood Dream'. Many actors comes to this magical land hoping to make it big—but very few of them do. The movie looks at the bright prospects for a budding actor and the dire consequences for a failed actor."


Mulholland Drive: a complete explanation of David Lynch’s movie (https://auralcrave.com/en/2019/01/27/mulholland-drive-a-complete-explanation-of-david-lynchs-movie/#:~:text=The%20Trauma%2C%20the%20Dream%2C%20and,%E2%80%93%20Reality%2C%20Dream%20and%20Subconscious. )

"Within a filmography in which it’s almost impossible to choose movies significantly better than others – except for the unfortunate Dune – [Mulholland Drive] represents the pinnacle of Lynchian poetics. The point of no return, a limit beyond which the author’s aestethics can’t go any further. It’s no coincidence that the filmmaker’s following movies, Inland Empire and Twin Peaks: The Return, would be extensions of what we have already seen in this one and other Lynch’s movies."

PHOENIX74
01-26-22, 10:38 PM
Spirited Away and Mulholland Drive are two films I watched late last year. The first when it came up in the Foreign Language Countdown - at a very high position. There were quite a few Miyazaki films on that countdown, so I've now seen a few and Spirited Away is by far the best, but while I'm able to appreciate animated films they don't tend to crop up in my 'best of' lists (apart from Grave of the Fireflies - I guess there's always an exception.) I will end up watching Spirited Away again, so it passes the rewatchability test - the imagery in the film's 'spirit resort' is fantasy run wild and incredible. Mullholland Drive likewise is great - I'd seen it before watching it last year, but that viewing holds me in good stead for it's position in the countdown - and at one stage it was holding a spot on the lower rungs of my list. It's full of mystery, and doesn't go out of it's way to clarify anything - leading to a variety of interpretations that stimulate further interest in seeing it again. Dreams and strange imagery impinge on what at first seems like a regular thriller - to the point where we become sure part of the film is someone's dream - but where does the dream stop and reality begin? If there was ever a film I'd praise for not making sense, it's this one. It would have appeared around spot 26-35 if I had of been compiling a top 50.

Meanwhile, revealing another failed entry on my list, my #15 was Before the Devil Knows You're Dead, a great crime thriller directed by Sidney Lumet featuring standout performances from Philip Seymour Hoffman and Ethan Hawke. I felt that it deserved to show up, at the very least in the bottom 50, and likewise my #24, another film featuring Ethan Hawke - Training Day. I was so sure Training Day would feature here. It was one of those films where, when it didn't show in the bottom 50 I was thinking "Wow, people really like this movie" - but when it didn't show by the time we got to the top 15 I was thinking "Wow, people really don't care for this movie." Personally, I love Training Day.

Seen 84/97

donniedarko
01-26-22, 11:38 PM
In the many years we have been doing these list reveals when you get down to the Top Ten and everybody has noodled through what the handful of movies are that are left, that's when traditionally people start revealing their absolute known misses.

Now that we're at the top three I've officialy lost hope for Triangle

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91O-RrMd1uL._SY500_.jpg

Thief
01-26-22, 11:44 PM
Now that we're at the top three I've officialy lost hope for Triangle

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91O-RrMd1uL._SY500_.jpg


That was a great film that I strongly considered for my list.

donniedarko
01-27-22, 12:11 AM
no way! I thought for sure i'd be the only one to vote for it

ynwtf
01-27-22, 12:19 AM
I would happily use that excuse but I'm just a dumb@ss and kept feeling I was forgetting something and normally do. So, whaddya gonna do :shrug:

It's f@ckin AWESOME to hear a fellow fan of it though!

That may be my favorite western =\ I'm not er..... have not BEEN much of a western fan for most of my life. Open Range might have opened that door, slightly, for me. I honestly just thought it was a newer movie so never even considered it. A week or so back I thought of it and sort of had a mini panic attack wondering if I had misremembered (gosh, that's an awkward looking word) when it came out. Sigh.

It probably only would have fallen around 18+ on my list as I just love too many other movies from the decade, but it for sure would have affected my list.

Thief
01-27-22, 12:23 AM
no way! I thought for sure i'd be the only one to vote for it

I ultimately left it off my list, but you weren't the only one.

donniedarko
01-27-22, 12:40 AM
I ultimately left it off my list, but you weren't the only one.

COME FORWARD TRIANGLE VOTER

gbgoodies
01-27-22, 02:08 AM
I watched Mulholland Drive for the All-Time Countdown but I just don't get why people love this movie. Maybe I'll rewatch it someday to try to figure it out.

ynwtf
01-27-22, 02:19 AM
no way! I thought for sure i'd be the only one to vote for it


Loved that movie but there are just too many to cram into 25 spots.

Deschain
01-27-22, 02:54 AM
Triangle is damn good. Probably needed a couple rewatches if I was gonna consider it.

mrblond
01-27-22, 05:32 AM
I'm a David Lynch fan and naturally, I was in the theatre for Mulholland Drive back then. Well, it is a good filmed work cinematographically but after all, it is just a collection of tricks to attract the crowd. Got the DVD of some mall sale years later, saw it once again only.
When I've noticed that this title was made fashionable too during the last years, I put it out of my lists. 3.5

ScarletLion
01-27-22, 06:15 AM
4. Mulholland Drive (592 points) - Great film, full of typical Lynchian mystery and intrigue. Not on my ballot though.

ScarletLion
01-27-22, 06:17 AM
Now that we're at the top three I've officialy lost hope for Triangle

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91O-RrMd1uL._SY500_.jpg

Didn't vote for it but I really like that film. Underrated.

ApexPredator
01-27-22, 06:22 AM
Mulholland Drive is a good film. David Lynch originally wanted this to be a series, but I don't think it would have worked as well as Twin Peaks did. Maybe a mini-series might have worked, though?

Good performances and some dreamy visuals are the highlights here along with a complex story. It didn't make my list but I totally understand why it made it here.

Triangle was a good film. I don't think it would have made the list, but I'm glad it got a bit of consideration from some.