The MoFo Top 100 of the 2000s Countdown

[cricket]

Saw Three Burials a year or so ago and thought it was excellent. It would definitely make my top 50.

Been a few years since seeing Cache. I remember it being a good watch but being frustrated by the ending.

[Wyldesyde19]

For those who haven’t seen it yet (3 Burials), and have access to Amazon prime, it is available there.

*eyes it up warily, realizing he has had it saved for over a year, and on his watchlist since it first came out over 15 years ago*

👀

[Takoma11]

For those who haven’t seen it yet (3 Burials), and have access to Amazon prime, it is available there.

*eyes it up warily, realizing he has had it saved for over a year, and on his watchlist since it first came out over 15 years ago*

👀

It's great and you should watch it.

[Wyldesyde19]

It's great and you should watch it.
I’ve been meaning to…for 15 years. 👀

[Takoma11]

I’ve been meaning to…for 15 years. 👀

I know it might seem like a film that would feel like "work", but I had that same wariness when I watched it (free rental---perks of working at the video store!) and 10 minutes in you'll be sucked into the story and characters.

[Yoda]

I know it might seem like a film that would feel like "work", but I had that same wariness when I watched it (free rental---perks of working at the video store!) and 10 minutes in you'll be sucked into the story and characters.
This is actually what happens to me with almost every movie.

"What? 2 hours and 12 minutes? Ugh."

But if it's any good I just have to start it and I wanna see what happens next. And if I don't, well, I take that as a sign that maybe it's not worth the time. Either way I'm only really "risking" a little bit of time.

[Wyldesyde19]

I know it might seem like a film that would feel like "work", but I had that same wariness when I watched it (free rental---perks of working at the video store!) and 10 minutes in you'll be sucked into the story and characters.
Oh yeah, I fully expect to enjoy it, I just always get side reached by so many other films. I really should watch it this week, though.

[Takoma11]

This is actually what happens to me with almost every movie.

"What? 2 hours and 12 minutes? Ugh."

But if it's any good I just have to start it and I wanna see what happens next. And if I don't, well, I take that as a sign that maybe it's not worth the time. Either way I'm only really "risking" a little bit of time.

Oh yes.

There's a big difference between, "Wow, that was 2 hours! It flew by!" and "Please tell me this movie is almost over *checks run time*. THIS THING STILL HAS 50 MINUTES LEFT?!?!?!"

[Thief]

Trivia

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The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada

https://www.reelingreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/thethreeburialsofmelquiadesestradapic.jpg

Did you know that...


Many parts of the film were shot in Tommy Lee Jones ranch?
The script was written in Spanish by Guillermo Arriaga, but translated to English by Jones himself?
Jones gave each cast member a copy of Albert Camus' The Stranger to read so that they would understand alienation, a big theme in both the novel and the film?


https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/50d144f6e4b05aff8e5b9c8c/1593911382142-SS6YSJXMIUF3Q44FS4P9/The-Three-Burials-of-Melquiades-Estrada.jpg

[Thief]

Trivia

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Caché

https://www.toutelatele.com/IMG/arton68665.jpg

Did you know that...


Haneke wrote the script with Daniel Auteuil in mind? He has also said that he envisioned Auteuil and Bincohe and had "almost all the actors in mind" while working on the screenplay.
there is no music in the film?

[KeyserCorleone]

I linked to my review when I posted my thoughts, but here it is again (https://letterboxd.com/thief12/film/watchmen/).


If it's THAT thematic I imagine a tv show would be better, which we have. Besides, there were a lot of scenes that relied heavily on character rather than action or SFX, well at least in the director's cut. Switching from character to character with that same dark human tone is what kept the varying lives of this washed-up heroes together. I think the inabioity to PERFECTLY transition the themes and keep the movie at nearly three hours makes the movie feel like it's less character driven than the source material, but I'd easily say this is one of the most character driven superhero movies I've seen.

[KeyserCorleone]

Yes, it's nice when people don't say obviously stupid things.



There are good movies about the gay community and bad ones. My gut is Hedwig is one of the bad ones (even though I wouldn't discourage others from seeing it as it is at least something)


I am free to say BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN IS A LITTLE OVERRATED! Hear that Twitter?

[Thief]

Shhhh, tomorrow's hints...


Two men walk into a classy bar
One has money, but the other gets by
He's full of hair, wealthy man's full of himself
Bartender asks "What do you want?"
Wealthy man says "Two sakes for me and my friend"
Bartender asks "Who are you?"
He proudly proclaims it with open arms
Bartender serves him a drink, but wealthy man goes:
"What about my fr- hey, where did he go?"

[Hey Fredrick]

So far I have seen:
#94 The Devils Rejects which is by far my fav Zombie flick and one that did not make my ballot. But it was close. I was hooked from the opening credits (Midnight Rider) through to the slightly overlong Free Bird ending. Very nasty film all around and somehow Zombie did almost everything right here. Most of my enjoyment is due to the performances of Bill and Sid who were excellent. rating_4

#91 Hedwig and the Angry Inch is another really good movie that I think people avoid because of the whole transsexual East German rock singer with mommy, daddy, boyfriend, husband, professional and body issues angle it takes. This is a very good musical, great performances, it's funny and I think the underlying story is something most people would get into but the wrapping, unfortunately, may hold some back from seeing this. rating_4

#90 Almost Famous another one I liked quite a bit but not top 25. rating_4

#89 Juno I saw it, it wasn't bad but it wasn't anything special. Only watched it once and barely remember it. rating_3

#88 Sunshine is the first from my ballot to show. I had it at #21. I'm a sucker for sci fi especially if it tries to be sort of accurate with the science part. Now I'm not suggesting the reigniting the Sun is very realistic but the journey there seems legit. I love the ship, the cast could easily have fallen into cliched characters and maybe they do a little but it's all so well performed that you barely notice it. Third act doesn't bother me at all. I was more bothered by nobody listening Chris Evans and his totally reasonable takes on the entire mission. The scene where the Capt and the Physicist repair the shield is just fantastic.rating_4_5

#87 Watchmen I saw once rating_3_5 but would like to see it again.


and finally

#86 The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada is another one time watch that I guess I liked well enough rating_4, but I couldn't tell you a damn thing about it.

[KeyserCorleone]

Shhhh, tomorrow's hints...


Two men walk into a classy bar
One has money, but the other gets by
He's full of hair, wealthy man's full of himself
Bartender asks "What do you want?"
Wealthy man says "Two sakes for me and my friend"
Bartender asks "Who are you?"
He proudly proclaims it with open arms
Bartender serves him a drink, but wealthy man goes:
"What about my fr- hey, where did he go?"


Something about this feels very No Country for Old Men, but I'm not sure. I imagine it being higher. As for the sake clue, I'm gonna combine it with the vanishing and spout Pulse.

Before I watch Sunshine, I realized that, on a forum full of people discussing directors, that if one Danny Boyle film made it, it's pretty safe to assume Slumdog Millionaire is confirmed. So I watched it. WOW! Excellent storytelling with a lot of tense moments, great acting and a beautiful ending. My only slim complaint is the same one I had for North by Northwest: the lady needed a LITTLE more character development. Either way, beautiful.

99.

I didn't vote for it, but it would have made my ballot if I watched it. So I'm going to put together a "Post-Ballot" recording any changes to my current top 25 in comparison to the ballot I sent. I won't reveal any entries on my sent-in ballot until they're confirmed, obviouzly.

Sent-In Ballot: No movies yet.

Post-Ballot:
#17: Slumdog Millionaire.

Watching Sunshine now.

[Holden Pike]

Before I watch Sunshine, I realized that, on a forum full of people discussing directors, that if one Danny Boyle film made it, it's pretty safe to assume Slumdog Millionaire is confirmed.
I would say that is an erroneous assumption.

[Wyldesyde19]

I’m a fan on Slumdog Millionaire 👍

[ynwtf]

"where did he go" is OBVIOUSLY a Top Gun reference. "Where'd WHOOOoooo go?" Hold up. Checks calendar.... carry the one...

[PHOENIX74]

These next four, I've seen em all 🥳 - None from my list
They're all pretty good, and I like them to varying degrees

88. Sunshine : I saw this film for the first time around a year ago, and enjoyed it - rewatching it again the other night lifted it in my appreciation. It is a first-rate science fiction film, and a realistic one at that - the filmmakers took what scientists had to say to heart, so what at first sounds a little far-fetched isn't as much as you'd think straight away. Delivering a bomb to restart our dying sun sounded drop-dead silly to me at first. Now, out of all the problems the crew of this space mission run into, it's one of the very last that seems to have rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. It didn't bother me too much, for it doesn't derail either the thrust or direction of the plot a great deal. I'm not overly fond of it either, but I can live with it, especially considering how good this movie is. If I were compiling my list of 100, rather than 25, there's a chance this would slip into the lower 50.

87. Watchmen : Out of these four films, Watchmen is my least favourite. That tends to happen with these graphic novel adaptations - though I find it a solid watch, and might even pop it on again soon and enjoy it. My friends, who had all read the novel, were gung-ho, and of course I had no idea what this was until I'd seen it, and borrowed Watchmen to read sometime later. Existing in an alternate universe, and a somewhat satirical one with Nixon enjoying an everlasting presidency, it nevertheless makes itself accessible for people who just go into it blind (thank goodness.) I remember that at the time, Jackie Earle Haley was really going to be the next big thing. Then along came that Nightmare on Elm Street reboot. If I had to guess without looking, I would have predicted this to have appeared previously on the Millennium countdown and Sunshine building an audience over the years to make a first appearance here - but the opposite seems to be true. I don't know if this would crack my top 100.

86. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada : A good one this one. One of only 4 films directed by Tommy Lee Jones (with two of those being television films.) It always gives me pause when an actor like this directs something really good, and then hardly ever makes another film. Perhaps the ordeal puts them off. Based on a true story, this involves revenge of a kind and friendship - and a bit of a meditation on how Mexicans are viewed by people North of the border. I like Dwight Yoakam, but I can never get past the fact that Barry Pepper agreed to be the lead in Battlefield Earth. Every time I see that actor I think of the sheer madness of agreeing to star in that. It will take many more good roles before I see him as being anywhere close to sane.

85. Caché : I had to check my ballot again to be sure Caché didn't make my list, such was the lateness of leaving it out - so obviously I'm glad to see it here. Watched it again only a couple of months ago and think it's a truly great film. Has anyone else watched the last shot and just thought it to be pretty random? Because it's not - and I only realised this last viewing. Anyway, a great film about guilt and about things overall that go unseen under the surface - not to mention how an act of childish spite could effect people in a very damaging way far into adulthood and the future. There's a creepy menacing vibe that's expertly fostered through the whole film, and although it's not my favourite Michael Haneke film, it seems to be a lot of other people's pick as number one. Personally, I love Amour and The White Ribbon - but with this film I come close to love. This came in at around the same position on the Foreign Language countdown list.

So, I've seen 9/16 now, and from my list there's only been the 1-pointer.

[KeyserCorleone]

Sunshine - Slow burner with some cool ideas during the first act, heavy plotting during the second act, plotting and worthwhile tension in the third. Some of the greatest cinematography I've ever seen drives all three. I really enjoyed the movie more and more as it went along. That's necessary because I found one jarring flaw that almost distracted me from the tension during the first two acts: there's very little character development. The plotting is thick, which is good, but it's practically 95% made up of science this science that, which essentially means I can care more about the characters of The Magic School Bus. And the villain of the piece was underwhelming as a character and a threat. I wouldn't pit this in my top 100 2000's films, but I can see why some put it in the top 25.

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[rauldc14]

I admittedly looked at the clue. I have two ideas floating in my head that are probably wrong.

[Thief]

I admittedly looked at the clue. I have two ideas floating in my head that are probably wrong.

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[Thursday Next]

Catching up...

95. Y Tu Mamá También- seen it, quite liked it, didn't come close to voting for it
94. The Devil's Rejects - never seen it and probably never will
93. Pride & Prejudice - nowhere near as good as the 1995 version
92. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly - never seen it but it's on my list to watch
91. Hedwig and the Angry Inch - this was my #23. It's sort of brilliant. It wasn't the only musical on my list either.
90. Almost Famous - don't like it at all. Or, come to think of it, anything I've seen from this director.
89. Juno - don't really like Juno either
88. Sunshine - I do like Sunshine, although I liked it less on a repeat viewing than the first time round so it's slipped down my list a bit and wasn't in my top 25. I did vote for a different Danny Boyle movie though.
87. Watchmen - kind of surprised to see this show up as I always thought it wasn't very highly thought of. It's a bit too glossy and in some cases miscast and relies way too heavily on some really rather obvious soundtrack choices. I thought it was fine but not great. Not as good as the novel, obviously, but still entertaining.
86. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada - well made, but not a favourite of mine.
85. Caché - such a frustrating film.

Seen 12/16
My list so far 2/25 + a one-pointer

[mrblond]

I guess, couple of minutes to the next reveal?
:cool:

[rauldc14]

I think Iron Man is on its way folks.

[Sedai]

I think Iron Man is on its way folks.

Has a strong chance to make the countdown, for sure!

[ynwtf]

iron. STRONG.

https://c.tenor.com/cLXb31x_sj0AAAAC/strong-bad-wiggle.gif

[KeyserCorleone]

I think Iron Man is on its way folks.


Iron Man surpassed the majority of 2000's superhero films IMO. And since the 2000's were THE decade for kick-starting the superhero movie fad, that relevancy should be reflected on this countdown.

[Chypmunk]

The Tin Man made the all-time list so I'm expecting cousin Iron to turn up at some point.

[Captain Terror]

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I don't think Iron Man is eligible.

[KeyserCorleone]

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I don't think Iron Man is eligible.


That's on my to-do list for the name and director.

[Pussy Galore]

Three Burials: Another film which fits in the category of movies I've seen and don't remember anything about

Caché: It's a very good non enjoyable movie. I've seen it once and it's enough (even though it's very good). The FAMOUS ''violent'' scene toward the end gave me one of the biggest shock/surprise a film ever gave me. I didn't see it coming AT ALL.

[Thief]

I guess, couple of minutes to the next reveal?
:cool:

Couple o' minutes, yeah :shifty:

[Thief]

78 points, 7 listsThe Man Who Wasn't There (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/10778-the-man-who-wasnt-there.html)Director
Joel & Ethan Coen, 2001

Starring
Billy Bob Thornton, Frances McDormand, Michael Badalucco, James Gandolfini

[Thief]

79 points, 7 listsIron Man (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/1726-iron-man.html)Director
Jon Favreau, 2008

Starring
Robert Downey Jr., Terrence Howard, Jeff Bridges, Gwyneth Paltrow

[rauldc14]

Called it.

[Thief]

I think Iron Man is on its way folks.

The man that wanted no clues got the clue! :D

[Thief]

Shhhh, tomorrow's hints...


Two men walk into a classy bar (Classy, because Tony Stark has money)
One has money, but the other gets by (see above. Ed, on the other hand)
He's full of hair, wealthy man's full of himself (Ed's a barber, Tony has an ego)
Bartender asks "What do you want?"
Wealthy man says "Two sakes for me and my friend" (direct reference to a line from Iron Man, when Tony asks for sakes for him and Rhodey)
Bartender asks "Who are you?"
He proudly proclaims it with open arms (direct reference to the scene of him with open arms and the final line: I am Iron Man)
Bartender serves him a drink, but wealthy man goes:
"What about my fr- hey, where did he go?" (the man... wasn't there. Get it? He wasn't there)


I was racking my head with this one for a while, but well... there it is.

[Yoda]

I dub today's reveal:

The Iron Man Who Wasn't There

[KeyserCorleone]

OH YES. The revealed first movie from my ballot. #20. Not gonna deny that I'm a big superhero fan. Iron Man redefined the way I look at superheros. Secret Identities, powers and gritty backstories involving dead family mean nothing when you've got charisma, stubbornness and cash. The movie introduced me to Gwyneth Paltrow and Robert Downey, Jr., I've I've been watching almost every MCU movie since. I still need to see Shang-Chi and Captain Marvel. But the real clincher for this film is Favreau being at the top of his directorial game.


98. Now for my sent ballot and the current, edited post-top 25.



Sent-In Ballot:
#20. Iron Man (83)


Post-Ballot:
#17. Slumdog Millionaire (not placed but it made my new 25)
#21. Iron Man (83)

[rauldc14]

The man that wanted no clues got the clue! :D

When the temptation is there, it's hard not to look. Though I didn't look the day before.

[Thief]

Again, no changes to my ballot, but a bit of an update to my tally...


Seen: 9/16


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Admittedly, I haven't seen The Man Who Wasn't There in a good while (which is why it didn't make my list), but I considered it cause I remember loving it. It's probably on my Coens Top 5, although that ranking is a tough one to tackle. Anyway, I've been meaning to revisit it. If I had, I might've included it. Great film, though.

Iron Man, on the other hand, I thought was OK, but I didn't love it. I think I've seen it two times, and my feelings haven't changed. It's a fun film, but not much else. Probably mid-tier MCU for me. However, a while ago, I was listening to a podcast on it, and they brought up a couple things that made me think I might appreciate it more. Who knows? Again, I like it a bit, just not that much.

[kgaard]

I thought The Man Who Wasn't There was fine but not top tier Coen Bros. (to be fair, the top tier is really good). I assume we'll be seeing more from them (if for no other reason than the 2000s have been their most prolific decade so far).

My recollection of seeing Iron Man in the theater was pleasant surprise at how decent it was. Marvel superhero movies had been somewhat hit (first two X-Men and Spider-Man movies) and miss (third X-Men and Spider-Man movies; Fantastic Four); as a jaded Marvel fan I was braced for the worst. So a fun, spiritually faithful adaptation was welcome. Not on my list, though.

[Yoda]

I rewatched Iron Man a few months ago and it really holds up. I'm not sure if the first MCU film was the best, but it's still easily one of the best, and the only things it lacks compared to some of the other contenders (massive emotional stakes later on), it would've been impossible to generate by nature of it being the first.

It was great then, it's great now, and I think despite all the praise it receives and deserves, it's still sort of underappreciated given how good it probably had to be to kickstart this era in cinema. It had to show people that these kinds of movies could--gasp--be populated by real actors, taking them seriously.

It's the foundation for the whole crazy experiment, an experiment that people will be talking about for generations, and it's just a really good movie in its own right, even without the whole "universe" that followed.

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[ScarletLion]

'The Man Who Wasn't there' was #11 on my ballot. It's the Coens' best film.

'Iron Man' - Yuk. Not my thing.

[Chypmunk]

Another two gooduns. I think The Man Who Wasn't There really benefits from being in b&w whilst Iron Man is one of the better superhero movies imo and I'm quite surprised has shown up this early. Neither were that close to making my own personal ballot though.

Seen: 11/18 (Own: 9/18)

3. Madeo [Mother] (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216496/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#96]
25. The Pool (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0911024/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_6) [1-ptr]


Faildictions (millennial edition v1.0):
82. Dancer In The Dark (2000)
81. Ratatouille (2007)

[KeyserCorleone]

I was racking my head with this one for a while, but well... there it is.


This is actually the kind of poem I'd write for a hint. Now I'm tempted to post a couple of mine.


Apparently, I HAVE seen a Joe Wright movie before. I forgot who directed Hanna, which is one of my favorite movies. So Pride and Prejudice fits within the consistency of directors I want in my log. I also need to see The Man Who Wasn't There for anything Coen, and for Frances McDormand.


Seen 10/18 movies.

[Thief]

A technical curiosity, is The Man Who Wasn't There credited to director Joel Coen alone? I know that for the first part of their career, both couldn't be listed as directors, even though they essentially co-direct... but at one point they started putting both names in. Not sure if it was after this.

[KeyserCorleone]

A technical curiosity, is The Man Who Wasn't There credited to director Joel Coen alone? I know that for the first part of their career, both couldn't be listed as directors, even though they essentially co-direct... but at one point they started putting both names in. Not sure if it was after this.


It's both.

[Citizen Rules]

The Man Who Wasn't There probably my favorite Coens film and the best Neo Noir I've seen.I should've put it on my list!

[CosmicRunaway]

I didn't post yesterday because I didn't have anything to say about either Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada or Caché, as I'm only vaguely aware of their existence. The Man Who Wasn't There is similar, in that I've heard the title before, but have no idea what it's about.

Iron Man however was #10 on my list. The film was quite the gamble for Marvel at the time, but it was one that certainly paid off. Unlike some later MCU entries, it works really well as a standalone film, as audiences don't have to be familiar with the character or comics to enjoy it. Over a decade later, it's still one of the best comic book adaptations ever made.

Seen: 7/18

My List:
08. Mother (2009) - #96
10. Iron Man (2008) - #83
25. Bon Cop, Bad Cop (2006) - 1-pointer

[Torgo]

I was going to type something about The Man Who Wasn't There, which I really like, but I'd rather share this video essay, which explores how existential the movie is. Don't watch it unless you've seen the movie, obviously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skBpzsw8v1k

[Thief]

It's both.

Ok, I just edited the entry to reflect that. Most websites list only Joel, but that's probably because of the reasons I mentioned. I think it's a DGA thing?

[KeyserCorleone]

Ok, I just edited the entry to reflect that. Most websites list only Joel, but that's probably because of the reasons I mentioned. I think it's a DGA thing?


I remember reading that the exception to the one director rule was something about "being an established duo" based on some criteria, which may or may not be more than just "directing a bunch of movies together."

[Deschain]

Man Who Wasn’t There is an excellent film and often overlooked when discussing the Coens. From what I understand they both direct and produce but their earlier films they’d alternate credits, one taking Director and one taking Producer then switch the next movie. Though in the last five years or so I’ve seen duos share directing credits, including them so idk what changed with the DGA but I appreciate it.

Iron Man is still one of the best Marvel movies and Favreau deserves a ton of credit for fighting for Downey in the titular role and kickstarting the whole franchise.

[Holden Pike]

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The Coen Brothers had three titles make the previous list, but none of them was The Man Who Wasn't There. The original Iron Man that really kicked the MCU into the strosphere did make that list. Barely. It was #99 on the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium List.

[Iroquois]

No votes. I've seen The Man Who Wasn't There once and remember liking it well enough, but I almost never feel the inclination to watch it (except maybe as part of a full Coens rewatch, which I may yet do at some point). Given its plot and themes, I suppose it is sort of appropriate that it seems like the most "forgettable" of their good films. I've watched Iron Man a few times over the years (most recently this year) and it holds up okay in spite of all the aspects that would be exacerbated by subsequent installments in the MCU (whether it's aggressive attempts at being charming or half-assed political commentary). Now I'm just wondering how much they're going to end up on the 2010s list.

[Holden Pike]

Man Who Wasn’t There is an excellent film and often overlooked when discussing the Coens. From what I understand they both direct and produce but their earlier films they’d alternate credits, one taking Director and one taking Producer then switch the next movie. Though in the last five years or so I’ve seen duos share directing credits, including them so idk what changed with the DGA but I appreciate it.
Nope. Up until The Ladykillers, of all projects, Joel was always credited as the director, Ethan was always credited as the producer, and they always shared screenwriting credit. However from the very beginning both brothers always did all three jobs interchangably. There were no DGA rules against both receiving directorial credit, it was just the way they decided to do things. Until 2004. Joel and Ethan also serve as their own editor on fifteen of their eighteen features to date, under the pseudonym Roderick Jaynes.

[MovieMeditation]

Both are movies I really like.

Obviously I’m a huge fan of the Coens and the way they write and go about their characters. And the worlds they create always feels so… complete. No matter if they switch it up a bit they pretty much always nail the setting and mood. And this noir-thing works great for them too.

Iron Man started the whole MCU but I was a fan long before that. I didn’t see it at the cinema, but I rented it right when it was released. Thought it was a lot of fun and a great new imagining of the superhero genre. It’s not a huge personal favorite or anything, but it’s definitely a favorite in the midst of superhero movies. And I also think it’s enjoyable at a level higher than “just a superhero movie”. Great fun.

[Thief]

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The Coen Brothers had three titles make the previous list, but none of them was The Man Who Wasn't There. The original Iron Man that really kicked the MCU into the strosphere did make that list. Barely. It was #99 on the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium List.

It's interesting to see both doing better this time, then. That means they've stood the test of time.

[SpelingError]

I haven't seen The Man Who Wasn't There.

Iron Man is fine, I suppose. I really like the opening act where Stark is trapped in he cave, but after that sequence, I wasn't able to get back into the film. Tony Stark's character didn't interest me much in the early films due to his narcissism (I enjoyed his development later in the MCU though) and Pepper Potts was also fairly unmemorable. Also, the main villain, though anchored by some strong acting, was unmemorable (as are most of the MCU villains, in my opinion). I know it isn't from the 2000's, but my favorite MCU film is The Winter Soldier. It's the only Marvel film I've seen that's able to provide a compelling character dynamic that isn't lost in all the big action sequences.

[seanc]

Two four star films that didn’t make my list.

The Man Who Wasn’t There is a super fun movie that I forget the plot of ten minutes after I see it. Not unusual for a Noir for me. I will continue to rewatch as I do most everything Coen brothers.

Iron Man remains my favorite MCU movie and Stark my favorite MCU character. Probably the main reason I am still invested.

[Miss Vicky]

After really enjoying The Dark Knight, I thought I'd give another superhero movie a shot and figured Iron Man might be a good choice since I like Robert Downey Jr. and Jeff Bridges... I didn't like it at all and have mostly avoided superhero movies ever since.

I haven't seen The Man Who Wasn't There. I really dislike Billy Bob and have a pretty spotty history with the work of the Coens so I'm not really in a hurry to watch it.

Seen: 9/18

[Thief]

Nope. Up until The Ladykillers, of all projects, Joel was always credited as the director, Ethan was always credited as the producer, and they always shared screenwriting credit. However from the very beginning both brothers always did all three jobs interchangably. There were no DGA rules against both receiving directorial credit, it was just the way they decided to do things. Until 2004. Joel and Ethan also serve as their own editor on fifteen of their eighteen features to date, under the pseudonym Roderick Jaynes.

This was the threshold I was referring to earlier. Anyway, I already changed it to Joel & Ethan Coen, but I suppose it's no big deal in leaving it that way, even though Joel is the one credited.

[mrblond]

Finally, I'm here.
#84. The Man Who Wasn't There (2001) is #14 in my list.
Very stylish, original and interesting movie, top level cast. As a whole, I can say a must see film. I thought, it has a Top 50 potential.

83439

As for the Iron Man, I'm surprised how many people seen and even voted for it.
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Seen 7/18.
My list #14. The Man Who Wasn't There [#84.]
(one pointers seen 3/38)

[Tugg]

This is what I wrote about #84 slot:
The Man Who Wasn't There (2001)

In this distinctly Coen brothers movie nothing goes as it was planned or desired by anybody and for anybody. But there is no absurd, futility or despair, because we experience the events from the point of view of the man who wasn't there Ed (by Billy Bob Thornton). Where others lose everything and their senses, Ed conveys strange indifference, acceptance and almost contentment, even though he fares no better. The only other person that somewhat shares his attitude is Birdy played by young Scarlett Johansson. Tony Shalhoub as lawyer Freddy provides farcical hope to doomed clients, well at least until his own charade ends abruptly. Coen brothers demonstrate why they are among the best screen writers and directors with this unusual flick.

This is what I wrote about #83 slot:
Iron Man (2008)

Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.) goes from weapons manufacturer to prisoner of war to Iron Man we know. The edge it has over other superhero movies is it's fusion with present day geopolitical environment. Such fusion crates the feeling we aren't in some parallel superhero universe, rather Iron Man is in our universe. Most of the first part of the movie Tony spends in a cave as a prisoner of war making him seem more human. Once Tony escapes his activities are followed by news media and military.
Iron Man (2008) was #17 on my ballot.

[ueno_station54]

Not really into noir so I never got around to The Man Who Wasn't There and Iron Man... no thanks :)

[Deschain]

Nope. Up until The Ladykillers, of all projects, Joel was always credited as the director, Ethan was always credited as the producer, and they always shared screenwriting credit. However from the very beginning both brothers always did all three jobs interchangably. There were no DGA rules against both receiving directorial credit, it was just the way they decided to do things. Until 2004. Joel and Ethan also serve as their own editor on fifteen of their eighteen features to date, under the pseudonym Roderick Jaynes.

Oh interesting idk where I heard what I heard but I guess I was wrong then.

[Sedai]

Sort of spaced out on The Man Who Wasn't There. I haven't seen it in ages, so I am definitely due for a re-watch. Iron Man is mid-tier MCU for me, but I like it quite a bit. Neither made my list.

[mark f]

The Man Who Wasn't There is a beautifully-photographed (almost looks 3-D) Coen wacko with the usual surprises [oxymoron but not for them] but when the UFOs show up, you're on your own. :cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ef8RBQEnLA
Iron Man is a great intro to modern-day MCU with Downey at his most charismatic, plenty of action and humor with an interesting take on the war in Afghanistan in the first part of the film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjJofEuSA78
No points.

[MovieFan1988]

Have seen so far: 4 - Iron Man - I liked this movie, I thought it was good.
Have not seen so far: 14

[Kaplan]

I had The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada and The Man Who Wasn't There on my list. The Man Who Wasn't There is basically Camus's The Stranger as a weird noir and The Three Burials is one of several neo-westerns set in Texas, which explore rather dark themes, and all these films seem particularly good to me. The Coens themselves went there, and in fact theirs will be fighting for a top spot on this countdown. The first Iron Man movie is very good, before that whole universe building thing became ridiculous and I lost interest. I also really liked Cache, but it's due for a third watch after all these years, as I've forgotten a lot of the details.


My List:
18. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (#86)
22. The Man Who Wasn’t There (#84)

[Thief]

Critics

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Critics thoughts on our #84, The Man Who Wasn't There...

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It currently has a 81% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 7.5/10 score on IMDb (with 107,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★ and said:

"The Man Who Wasn't There is so assured and perceptive in its style, so loving, so intensely right, that if you can receive on that frequency, the film is like a voluptuous feast. Yes, it might easily have been shorter. But then it would not have been this film, or necessarily a better one. If the Coens have taken two hours to do what hardly anyone else could do at all, isn't it churlish to ask why they didn't take less time to do what everyone can do?"

Meanwhile Peter Rainer, of New York Magazine, said:

"The Man Who Wasn't There denatures pulp, and although I know this was the Coens' intention, it's not a particularly gratifying one. Their movie isn't there, either."

As for our MoFo reviewers, Cobpyth said:

"If you're in the mood for some pitch-black comedy with a delightful touch of melancholy and world-weariness (realised by the sadness of Beethoven's Piano Sonatas and Roger Deakins' deliciously somber cinematography), you should definitely watch this remarkably well crafted piece of cinema (it's one of the Coen Brothers' most visually impressive films, in my opinion). The Man Who Wasn't There is one of those films that will stay a firm personal favorite of mine for a very long time!"

And Citizen Rules said:

"This is stunning film work! Visually the use of shadows and high key lighting, silhouettes and Dutch angles, wide overhead shots and deep focus...are all here and done to a level of sublime. This film should be used to train new directors in the art of lighting."

[Thief]

Critics

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Critics thoughts on our #83, Iron Man...

https://i.imgur.com/LsthpxB.png

It currently has a 94% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 7.9/10 score on IMDb (with 997,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★ and said:

"At the end of the day it 's Robert Downey Jr. who powers the lift-off separating this from most other superhero movies. You hire an actor for his strengths, and Downey would not be strong as a one-dimensional mighty-man. He is strong because he is smart, quick and funny, and because we sense his public persona masks deep private wounds. By building on that, Favreau found his movie, and it's a good one."

Meanwhile Ann Hornaday, of Washington Post, said:

"Toggling between Stark's impish goatee and Iron Man's full-metal body condom, and amid so many generic fireballs, kill shots and earsplitting thumps, bumps and crunches, the film finally collapses under its own weight."

As for our MoFo reviewers, Yoda said:

"The results [of adapting comic books] have been somewhat schizophrenic, as the genre is inhabited by both carefree efforts like Fantastic Four, and somber, believable films like Batman Begins. Iron Man is one of the few capable of effectively splitting the difference. It manages to be an enjoyable distraction without becoming mindless entertainment."

And Darth Stujitzu said:

"There is nothing outstanding on offer, it was somewhat of a gamble to cast Robert Downey Jr, but he doesn't let the side down, and indeed provides one of the more wry comedic performances of recent years. The direction is fine, pace and action sequences plod along at a decent pace (still not loving CGI though!) my only real grumbles were that the rest of the cast have little to do, and I'm afraid that as inspired as casting Robert Downey Jr was, casting Jeff Bridges as the main villain didn't work for me at all."

[Thief]

Trailers

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htxvLcSnOU0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ugaeA-nMTc

[Sedai]

Bridges, who I normally find to be great, is my main issue with the first Iron Man. By the end of the film, he plunges over a cliff into moustache-twirling silliness.

[Harry Lime]

Interesting pair. I think The Man Who Wasn't There is one of the few Coen brothers films that I haven't rewatched at least once. I did like it, though. I also like Iron Man.

[cricket]

Not a big fan of comic book movies but Iron Man was a strong contender for my list. Great fun and I adore Pepper Pits.

Haven't seen The Man Who Wasn't There.

[Rockatansky]

As someone who isn't a fan of the MCU, I think Iron Man holds up pretty nicely, as it was made before they had their corporate strategy in as concrete a form so it remembers to be an actual narrative rather than advance marketing for subsequent entries. I also think the fact that it was a comeback for Downey after his personal and career troubles gives its redemption arc some added resonance.

[Rockatansky]

As someone who isn't a fan of the MCU, I think Iron Man holds up pretty nicely, as it was made before they had their corporate strategy in as concrete a form so it remembers to be an actual narrative rather than advance marketing for subsequent entries. I also think the fact that it was a comeback for Downey after his personal and career troubles gives its redemption arc some added resonance.
On a related note, this was the summer that nerd culture really came to the fore, with this and The Dark Knight becoming monstrous box office hits. After a steady rise over the decade, it was a brief moment of optimism and good vibes, before the truly toxic elements became apparent with the gamergate and Ghostbusters nonsense, and the Marvel juggernaut drowning out the rest of cinema. I remember starting to get into comic books the previous year, getting **** for nerdy interests, and then having the same people tell me about Watchmen and **** the next summer. "**** you guys, I told you about that **** last year!" :D

[WHITBISSELL!]

So far I've seen 11 and not a single one was on my list.

[rauldc14]

Iron Man is the first from my list to show. After some strategic voting, I had it at 9. It would have barely made the list were it not for that.

The Man Who Wasn't There is an ok Coen, but they've certainly done better.

[Takoma11]

I remember liking The Man Who Wasn't There, but I haven't seen it since its release.

Iron Man is mostly a fun little flick, I don't mind its presence on the list. At the same time, I'm not even sure it would have made a top 50 of mine for the decade.

[Frightened Inmate No. 2]

i liked iron man when i saw it in the theater, and even though i can now pinpoint it as the movie that officially set cinema on its path to ruin, i imagine i would still more or less enjoy it today.

[GulfportDoc]

The Man Who Wasn't There probably my favorite Coens film and the best Neo Noir I've seen.I should've put it on my list!
I agree that The Man Who Wasn't There is an excellent film, with a great understated performance by Billy Bob Thornton. It might be the Coens' best non comedic film-- a firm neo-noir.

[Thief]

Awards

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Now to the awards received by The Man Who Wasn't There...



Cannes Film Festival Best Director (Joel Coen, tied with David Lynch)
BAFTA Award for Best Cinematography (Roger Deakins)
AFI Award for Cinematographer of the Year (Deakins)
ASC Outstanding Achievement in Cinematography in Theatrical Releases (Deakins)


Among many, many others... mostly for Deakins!

As for Iron Man, it won...



MTV Movie Awards Best Summer Movie So Far
Scream Award for Best Science Fiction Movie
Scream Award for Best Science Fiction Actor (Robert Downey, Jr.)
Saturn Award for Best Science Fiction Film, Best Actor, and Best Director (Jon Favreau)

[Thief]

Trivia

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The Man Who Wasn't There

https://idrawonmywall.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/12432_1.jpg

Did you know that...


The Coens were inspired to write the film while working on a barber scene in The Hudsucker Proxy?
Billy Bob Thornton agreed to do the film without reading the script? When Joel called him, Thornton asked them what it was about and they said "it's about a barber who wants to be in the dry-cleaning business". He said "I'll take it", and that's it.
The actor that plays the piano teacher (Adam Alexi-Malle) is actually an accomplished concert pianist? The Coens didn't know it until he spontaneously played Piano Concerto #1 by Franz Liszt.
Thornton jokingly made it look like Crane had an erection in one of the scenes with Birdy Abundas at the piano? When the Coens found out, they made it clear that Ed would not be aroused in the scene.


https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMDFhNDZiODYtYWIxOS00YTI0LThjZDYtZjA0MjQ1ZDAxN2I1XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNDAxOTExNTM@._V1_.jpg

[Thief]

Trivia

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Iron Man

https://i.imgur.com/pjzWzYZ.jpg

Did you know that...


Clark Gregg's role, Agent Coulson, was supposed to be an unnamed brief role? But as the chemistry with the other actors developed, they added more scenes for him which eventually spun off into one of the most notable roles of the franchise.
Paul Bettany recorded all his JARVIS lines in two hours?
The roadster in which Tony Stark works is owned by director Jon Favreau?
The "I am Iron Man" line was ad-libbed by Robert Downey, Jr.? Producer Kevin Feige approved it then, and credits it with his decision to not rely on secret identities in the MCU.


https://i.gifer.com/269d.gif

[Thief]

Of the two next films, there's one I haven't seen, and the other I haven't seen in a very, very long time, which makes it harder to hand out hints, but here's something for tomorrow...

Film #82

"It's the exact midpoint between Soul and Paprika. Mind melting goodness, total bliss."

"I feel like [redacted] decided to make this film while he was high and watching My Dinner With Andre."


Film #81

"For those who love dogs, this is the film to watch."

"[redacted]... aka the master of portraying desperate miserable ****ed up people."



Four one-line reviews from film lovers and cinephiles, not film critics. Use Google if you want, but in the wise words of John Dumbear

https://y.yarn.co/7e2b84d9-24ae-4dd3-9499-e5f08c8da6fa_text.gif

Also, tomorrow's two films, along with #80 and #79 are all in a four-way tie. Wow.

So sleep tight, peeps!

[rauldc14]

Eh, I'll skip the clues today. Although maybe I shouldn't since I guessed one right today too.

[mark f]

*********** and **********. Oops! I'm not supposed to say.

[Thief]

*********** and **********. Oops! I'm not supposed to say.

https://c.tenor.com/LfYgloztN2IAAAAd/barack-obama-what.gif

Why not?

[KeyserCorleone]

That first one feels like either Coraline or Mindgame.

[John Dumbear]

#81 screams of "Best in Show".

[PHOENIX74]

84. The Man Who Wasn't There : This movie kept on getting reinstated on my list every time I dared to use it to make way for another, such is it's lasting impact. It sits in my memory, with Billy Bob Thornton's voice easy-talking relatable narration married to incredible black and white visuals - and it sits there in the most wonderful way. Classic Coen Bros, and one of three Coen Bros movies to make my list (hence my many attempts to drop it in favour of balance - but I just couldn't.) So many familiar faces in this from their other movies, and they all fit, their roles probably being written with the particular actors in mind - which always helps a film. I've seen the colour version, just out of curiosity, but I'm willing to bet a lot of The Man Who Wasn't There fans would consider that a no-go, and I admit the black and white is superior. I had this film #21 and it's the first from my list to appear.

83. Iron Man : I have Iron Man on blu-ray, so I'm definitely not dismissive of it, but to me it's another comic book character come to life in a cinematic landscape littered with them - and I'm not so enamoured that I saw the 2nd or 3rd films, though I plan to one day. I should probably rewatch the first before doing it. I remember the first half, but things get sketchy after that. The character just never grabbed me, and I can probably say the same for Robert Downey Jr, although I am hoping to see Kiss Kiss Bang Bang show up here (my hopes for that will get dimmer and dimmer if it doesn't appear in the next 20 films or so.) This was never a chance to make my list. It's a good movie - definitely not bad, but not my kind of thing.

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Films I've seen : 11
Films that have been on my radar : 4
Films I've never even heard of : 3

Films from my list : 2

#84 - My #21 - The Man Who Wasn't There (2001)
One pointer - World's Greatest Dad (2009)

[John-Connor]

In my top 35:
The Man Who Wasn't There
Iron Man

seen: 9/18
watchlist:
83446

Ballot 1/25
https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/s1cVTQEZYn4nSjZLnFbzLP0j8y2.jpg

[gbgoodies]

I had no plans to watch The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada, but I found the DVD at a garage sale after the Westerns Countdown, and I remembered the praise it for during that countdown, so I bought it. I watched it for this countdown. It took me a while to realize that it was switching between flashbacks and the present day, but once I realized that, I liked the movie. It didn't make my list, but I'm glad to see that it made the countdown.

I watched Caché after reading about it during the Foreign Language Movies Countdown. I liked it a lot, and if I had watched it before that countdown, it might have made my list for that countdown. However, it did not make my list for this countdown.

I watched The Man Who Wasn't There for this countdown. I've been mostly hit or miss with the Coen Brothers movies, so I didn't have high hopes for this one, but I decided to give it a try anyway because several people spoke highly of it in the recommendation thread. It turned out to be a very good movie, and I'm glad that I watched it, but it's another good movie that didn't make my list.

I've seen most of the MCU movies, and Iron Man is one of my favorites. It was a strong contender for my list when this countdown was first announced, but it just got pushed down as I watched more movies, and it eventually just got knocked off my list. However I credit this movie, and the casting of Robert Downey Jr. as the main reason why the MCU is so popular. I don't think anyone else would have been nearly as good as Tony Stark.

[dadgumblah]

Have not seen Caché. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada is an excellent movie and I had heard of it but was intrigued to watch it because of my movie-loving older sister, whom I've trusted on many films and have been rewarded almost every time, and my late Dad, who rarely recommended anything past the 80s for me, so when he did, boy was I definitely gonna see it! I love it and need to revisit it. I love the Coen's but still haven't seen The Man Who Wasn't There but definitely will as I intend to see everything they've made. And finally, my first entry had made it with Iron Man which I had at #20 on my ballot. I love this movie and it's primarily because of Downey Jr.'s comical take (with some seriousness) on Iron Man. Like some other MoFos here, I think this is top tier Marvel film-making before I started to suffer from superhero fatigue. I haven't actively disliked any of the Marvel films but then I've yet to see any in this next phase (what are we at, Phase Four?) with films like Black Widow, especially when if I miss them at the theater, Disney makes you pay through the nose to just rent them for streaming. Or buy them. And I'm not going to do that flat-out because I think Disney is a greed machine. But that's another discussion for another day.

Anyway, glad to have broken into the countdown.
#20 Iron Man 83

[rauldc14]

In my top 35:
The Man Who Wasn't There
Iron Man

seen: 9/18
watchlist:
83446

Ballot 1/25
https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/s1cVTQEZYn4nSjZLnFbzLP0j8y2.jpg


Cool layout man

[Diehl40]

I've seen 4 but only have 2 on my list so far. Juno and Almost Famous

[rauldc14]

Almost bedtime I think we need 2 more!

[Thief]

Almost bedtime I think we need 2 more!

You're so impatient, man :D

In a few minutes

[pahaK]

Almost bedtime I think we need 2 more!

https://moodsurfing.com/too-many-people-in-the-bed/bob-carol-ted-alice-1969-2/

[Thief]

Of the two next films, there's one I haven't seen, and the other I haven't seen in a very, very long time, which makes it harder to hand out hints, but here's something for tomorrow...

Film #82

"It's the exact midpoint between Soul and Paprika. Mind melting goodness, total bliss."

"I feel like [redacted] decided to make this film while he was high and watching My Dinner With Andre."


Film #81

"For those who love dogs, this is the film to watch."

"[redacted]... aka the master of portraying desperate miserable ****ed up people."



Four one-line reviews from film lovers and cinephiles, not film critics. Use Google if you want, but in the wise words of John Dumbear

https://y.yarn.co/7e2b84d9-24ae-4dd3-9499-e5f08c8da6fa_text.gif

Also, tomorrow's two films, along with #80 and #79 are all in a four-way tie. Wow.

So sleep tight, peeps!

A couple of guesses, but here's some visual aid, while I prep the reveals...


https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sXSamtfU6yk/WI6vFX_WsGI/AAAAAAAAKmk/i5HYyW6n-V4ZXFSElYtXJN8VMdcjKFq5wCLcB/s1600/Heart-Disease-Dogs.jpg

https://i.stack.imgur.com/y6TAL.jpg

[Thief]

80 points, 5 listsWaking Life (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/9081-waking-life.html)Director
Richard Linklater, 2001

Starring
Trevor Jack Brooks, Lorelei Linklater, Wiley Wiggins, Glover Gill

[Thief]

80 points, 6 listsAmores Perros (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/55-amores-perros.html)Director
Alejandro González Iñárritu, 2000

Starring
Gael García Bernal, Vanessa Bauche, Goya Toledo, Álvaro Guerrero

[seanc]

I didn’t like Waking Life much but am definitely up for a rewatch at some point. The dialogue is dense.

I really like Innaritu, probably more than most, Amores is towards the middle of his filmography for me though. Good movie but didn’t make my list.

[Harry Lime]

Both great films certainly deserving a spot on this list. Neither made mine, though.

[KeyserCorleone]

I've been meaning to get into more Linklater.

I saw The Man Who Wasn't There last night. Very realistic commentary on how life ****s people over. I liked how it stayed so mellow despite it's rough scenarios. All I have to say.

82. Seen 11/20

[Citizen Rules]

Whoops! Two more I haven't seen:cool: My initial run of seeing most all of the countdown movies has seemed to petered out. Bummer.

[Sedai]

I've seen Waking Life, and I liked it quite a bit, but perhaps not quite as much as Slacker. I have not seen the Innaritu picture; will check it out in future!

[kgaard]

Two very good movies that just missed the cut for me. Neither were helped by the fact that I haven't seen them since release, so my memories are positive but hazy. Waking Life was probably a bit closer to making it than Amores Perros, but I'd almost certainly put both in a top 50.

[Thief]

I haven't seen Waking Life, and it's been probably close to 20 years since I saw Amores Perros. I remember liking it a lot, but I barely remember anything, so it didn't make my list.

As it is now...

Seen: 10/20


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[ScarletLion]

Not seen Waking Life, but will do one day as I like Linklater. Amores Perros is terrific and I think it was #12 on my list.

[Miss Vicky]

I watched Waking Life at some point around the Animation Countdown, though I don't recall if it was in preparation for it or during the period where I challenged myself to watch everything that made the countdown. Either way, I was fairly underwhelmed by it and also A Scanner Darkly. Come to think of it, I haven't liked anything I've seen from Linklater.

I haven't seen Amores Perros.

Seen: 10/20

[MovieMeditation]

Love Linklater and loved the experience of watching Waking Life. I’m not sure how much I would love it now, since it’s also a movie very much about the experience because of its unique style. But I really dug it.

I haven’t seen the other one, but it’s one the watchlist. I’m missing a lot of earlier Iñárritu…

[Thief]

Stats: Pit Stop #2
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We're on the second pit stop (80), here are some stats:

Decade Breakdown


2000 = 3
2001 = 4
2002 = 0
2003 = 1
2004 = 1
2005 = 5
2006 = 0
2007 = 3
2008 = 1
2009 = 2



Still no repeating directors, so no breakdown. But again, it's interesting that the list continues to be a bit all over the place genre-wise:


Musical = 1
Biopic drama = 1
Romantic drama = 2
Horror = 1
Coming of age = 2
Thriller = 2
Drama/mystery = 1
Comedy drama = 2
Epic, war drama = 1
Psychological drama = 1
Animated drama = 1
Superhero action = 2
Crime = 1
Western/Neo-western = 1
Science fiction = 1


Genres are always iffy, cause something like Juno or Almost Famous can count as both coming-of-age and comedy/drama, while something like Sunshine is sci-fi, but it's also a psychological thriller, so let's not sweat it that much.

Also, 6 of the 20 films are foreign, and the first animated film of the countdown makes its appearance. How many more will there be?

[Thief]

Amores Perros is terrific and I think it was #12 on my list.

Yep

[KeyserCorleone]

Waking Life is giving me slight Midnight Gospel vibes.

[cricket]

Amores Perros has more energy than 99% of the movies out there and was my #15.

I hated Waking Life.

[ScarletLion]

I purchased the USA import of the Criterion Blu Ray last month (Look at that cover!!!) - can't wait to rewatch it when I get a moment or two.

https://images.static-bluray.com/movies/covers/258206_medium.jpg?t=1600193763

[mark f]

Didn't vote for either but they're very good.
Waking Life is probably the trippiest, most-philosophical "rotoscoped" film you'll ever see. Yes, you'll feel stoned about one minute after the opening credits end. Remember, it's only a dream.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clY95Qc7DrI
Amores Perros often seems violent and pessimistic, but it's ultimately life-affirming. The filmmaking is often exhilarating and the acting sensitive. Don't worry about this clip being a spoiler - it's from the beginning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f48wH7l3c5I

[SpelingError]

Haven't seen either film.

[honeykid]

I was quite excited to see Waking Life when it came out, but it didn't really work well for me. It's Linklater (who I loved) and it felt right, but it was dense and I didn't like the presentation (rotoscope) which kind of put the whole thing out for me. I always thought I'd watch it again and see how I felt about it but I never did.

Amores Perros is another film about which there was quite the buzz when it hit our shores. I meant to see it but, again, didn't get around to it.

Of the ones I missed I liked Sunshine, but didn't love it. Watchmen I saw because a friend wanted to see it. It was ok but I flicked between bored, annoyed and interested. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada, Caché and The Man Who Wasn't There are all films I have but haven't seen (not 100% sure of The Man Who Wasn't There). I think I have actually seen Iron Man on tv but I can't remember if I finished it or not. Wasn't enjoying it much.

[Chypmunk]

*sigh* I'm back on the doughnuts again :(
Never seen Waking Life and if I've ever seen Amores Perros I have absolutely no recollection of it so a double-doughnut day it is.

Seen: 11/20 (Own: 9/20)

3. Madeo [Mother] (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216496/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#96]
25. The Pool (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0911024/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_6) [1-ptr]


Faildictions (millennial edition v1.0):
80. Triangle (2009)
79. Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003)

[CosmicRunaway]

Oh wow. I was not aware that the title of the film was Waking Life. I thought it was "Walking" Life. :facepalm:

I'm not sure if I should count it as seen or not, since literally the only thing I remember about it was liking A Scanner Darkly more haha. I haven't seen Amores Perros, but it sounds like it could be interesting.

Seen: 7/20

My List:
08. Mother (2009) - #96
10. Iron Man (2008) - #83
25. Bon Cop, Bad Cop (2006) - 1-pointer

[mrblond]

Here we are, scoring again...
#81. Amores perros is my #9 of the 2000's.
I've got the DVD about fifteen years ago and now I'm full of enthusiasm for another re-watch.
It is a surprise that only 6 lists contain this superb film. Alejandro González Iñárritu is among the most important filmmakers of this decade especially.

This movie is #9 in MoFo 2000 Film Chart (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=64356).

83461

Seen 8/20.
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My list:
#9. Amores perros [#81.]
#14. The Man Who Wasn't There [#84.]
https://www.themoviedb.org/t/p/w600_and_h900_bestv2/vV4vlD4ool5JSsS1rB82qjCF6z8.jpghttps://www.themoviedb.org/t/p/w600_and_h900_bestv2/lrCgt8NNMyFsfmXyXiSSCRXNH4u.jpg
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(seen one pointers 3/38)

[Thursday Next]

Haven't seen The Man Who Wasn't There (or if I have, I've forgotten it so thoroughly that I couldn't really count it as seen).

Iron Man is good. Not great, but very entertaining. Not on my list.

Waking Life - review from letterboxd which sort of sums up my thoughts on it: "it absolutely nailed that feeling of being the only sober one at a party where every p**** thinks they're a philosopher and you've just got to nod along politely." Except that I also hated the rotoscope, it made me feel seasick.

Amores Perros - seen it, didn't really enjoy it. High energy relentless unpleasantness.

[ueno_station54]

I figured 3 of the films on my ballot would make it and Waking Life wasn't one of them lol. Pleasantly surprised. #13 on my list. Never seen Amores Perros, doesn't seem like my jam.

[rauldc14]

Seen Amores Perros. It's ok, but there's another from that director that is much better for me from the 2000s. I'm up to 6/20 so still doing lame over here.

[Thief]

Critics

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Critics info about #82, Waking Life...

https://i.imgur.com/jKfLSFU.png

It currently has a 81% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 7.8/10 score on IMDb (with 63,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★★ and said:

"It was a soothing flow of intelligence, of questioning, of curiosity and imagination. There was a paralysis and hopelessness that seemed to descend upon us. The images of the towers collapsing belonged in a nightmare, but no, they were real. Waking Life was a jolt, or nudge, a reminder that we could usefully ask big questions and propose possible answers. It affirmed our need to think for ourselves and not give in to dead-end despair."

Meanwhile Scott Weinberg said:

"The overall effect of Waking Life is that of finally escaping a cocktail party full of ecstasy-laden philosophy students."

As for our MoFo reviewers, Daniel M said:

"An incredibly inspiring film that makes me want to go out and do something great with my life, it might sound silly, but it is one hundred percent true. Needless to say this will be at the top end of my animation list, and I really hope that some other people like me watch it and love it."

And gohansrage said:

"The pace was terrible. The voices were ho hum. The animation took away from the information, which itself was boring and dated. A note to Linklater, you are very good at toying with human itneraction and delivering fresh perspectives on alienated members of society. Do that, and leave the philosophy to DeCartes."

[Thief]

Critics

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Critics info about #81, Amores Perros...

https://i.imgur.com/T60tDt3.png

It currently has a 93% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 8.1/10 score on IMDb (with 234,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★½ and said:

"It is the work of a born filmmaker, and you can sense Gonzalez Inarritu's passion as he plunges into melodrama, coincidence, sensation and violence. His characters are not the bland, amoral totems of so much modern Hollywood violence, but people with feelings and motives."

Meanwhile Jason Korsner, of BBC.com, said:

"The structure lacks purpose, the film struggles to justify its two-and-a-half-hour running time and the faint-hearted might find it a little gory."

As for our MoFo reviewers, Iroquois said:

"Stylistically, the film tends towards gritty camerawork that alternates between frantic edits and smooth movements. The music covers a variety of genres appropriate to the story - there's a lot of hip-hop beats at work here, especially in the dogfight story, but also there's some nice atmospheric work (especially the last song in the film - I mean, damn). The acting is great and every story's lead gets at least one scene that's simply amazing to witness. As far as imitators of the violent multi-narrative formula laid down by Pulp Fiction go, it's definitely one of the best."

[Thief]

Trailers

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkjDUERgCQw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5HTBYR7m0o

[dadgumblah]

Have seen neither Waking Life or Amores Perros. I'm a fan of Linklater but I really have no inclination to see either of his animated/rotoscoped films. I've seen only two of Iñárritu's films and after watching that clip of Amores Perros, I don't think I want to see it. May sound silly but I hate movies where dogs are put in jeopardy, Old Yeller being the exception to my rule. :)

[Thief]

Awards

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Now to the awards received by Waking Life...



National Society of Film Critics Experimental Film Award
New York Film Critics Circle Award for Best Animated Film
Venice Film Festival Award for Best Film



As for Amores Perros, it won...



BAFTA Award for Best Film not in the English Language
AFI Fest for Best Feature Film
ALMA Award for Outstanding Foreign Film
and a TON of Ariel Awards

[Thief]

Trivia

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Waking Life

http://berlinfilmjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/quick-fix-movies-to-watch-waking-life-image.jpg

Did you know that...


the movie took 3 weeks to shoot, another 3 weeks to edit using Final Cut Pro, and 15 months to animate?
the film was based on real reports of LSD trips?
this was the first digitally rotoscoped animated feature film?
the basic plot of the film is based on a physiological phenomenon known as "lucid dreaming" which means you dream while knowing that you are dreaming?


https://dazedimg-dazedgroup.netdna-ssl.com/900/azure/dazed-prod/1260/5/1265862.jpg

[Thief]

Trivia

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Amores Perros

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/04/10/12/amores-perros.jpg?width=1200&auto=webp&quality=75

Did you know that...


during the dogfights scenes, dogs are actually playing? Careful editing makes it look a lot more vicious.
the film was shot in some of the more dangerous parts of Mexico City? It was not uncommon for the production crew to be robbed by street gangs.
the man who plays the bus driver in the scene where Gael García Bernal's character decides not to get on the bus is Bernal's father, José Ángel García?


https://i0.wp.com/elcomercio.pe/resizer/5DSLE0j0iCyTLod7M6Oy7YYjCpw=/980x528/smart/filters:format(jpeg):quality(75)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/elcomercio/O2U44DIQ5ZFQ7OEU25CVT5GQ3A.jpg

[PHOENIX74]

After a good run of having seen the films appearing here I get two I haven't seen. Waking Life was ringing bells that made me think I'd recently had some kind of tangle with it, but that must have been because I watched A Scanner Darkly just a couple of months ago - which was just okay. Nothing special. Amores perros is just about the only Inarritu film I haven't seen, and sheez, that looks like a mistake. It's going straight to the top of my watchlist.

[John Dumbear]

Been busy and trying to catch up. It's true what they say, you never know how much crap you have until you move. Exhausting...

"Three Buriels... was last seen at the theater and needs to be re-seen. Remember enjoying it.

" Waking Life" seen bits of it and truly deserves a full viewing.

"The Man Who..." is quite an embarrassment because of the love for the Coens, I have not seen this. ..:eek:

The rest, okay but seems to be on me. All that's mentioned is my one pointer, my list is looking like poo...


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25. The OH in Ohio 1-ptr

Have seen so far: 8
Put on list for future viewing: 6
My list that ended up on the cutting room floor (dammit!): 2
Put on "meh" list : 5
1 Ptrs: seen 8

[StuSmallz]

Iron Man is fine, I suppose. I really like the opening act where Stark is trapped in he cave, but after that sequence, I wasn't able to get back into the film. Tony Stark's character didn't interest me much in the early films due to his narcissism (I enjoyed his development later in the MCU though) and Pepper Potts was also fairly unmemorable. Also, the main villain, though anchored by some strong acting, was unmemorable (as are most of the MCU villains, in my opinion). I know it isn't from the 2000's, but my favorite MCU film is The Winter Soldier. It's the only Marvel film I've seen that's able to provide a compelling character dynamic that isn't lost in all the big action sequences.Well, Winter Soldier certainly had the best action scenes of any MCU movie I've seen, but outside of that, I wasn't as engaged by it as I had hoped to be, either by the plot or the character-centric material; I think Iron Man, Civil War and a number of other Marvel movies did noticably better in those departments, to be honest with you.

[Thief]

Hint, hint...


Feel like I'm trapped
Down in a hole
Drowned by work
Feeling so cold

I can't breathe
Drowned by grief
Blood to the teeth
Trying to live

My weapon is ego
Drown you with blabber
Never let ye go
Down stairs and ladder

This is the end
You are all blind
Cakes and cards
Is it all in my mind?

[SpelingError]

Well, Winter Soldier certainly had the best action scenes of any MCU movie I've seen, but outside of that, I wasn't as engaged by it as I had hoped to be, either by the plot or the character-centric material; I think Iron Man, Civil War and a number of other Marvel movies did noticably better in those departments, to be honest with you.

Granted, I don't remember Civil War that well, but The Winter Soldier definitely left a bigger emotional impact on me than the other MCU films I've seen. To each their own though.

[ynwtf]

Ima guess Moon and Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? Or Pootie Tang. Tippy tie, tippy tay, cuz it kinda fits.

[gbgoodies]

Waking Life is another movie that I watched because it was mentioned in the recommendation thread, and I found the DVD at a garage sale recently. It was an interesting watch, but it felt more like a continuing series of drug trips than dreams. Also, I found the rotoscoping dizzying at times.

I haven't seen Amores Perros.

[StuSmallz]

Granted, I don't remember Civil War that well, but The Winter Soldier definitely left a bigger emotional impact on me than the other MCU films I've seen. To each their own though.It just felt to me like the Russos cared a lot more about the action scenes than anything else in that film, whether it was the story, the 70's conspiracy thriller trappings, or the character-centric material, which felt like it was given the bare minimum of effort. Like, a scene like this should've felt much more emotional...

https://youtu.be/GBVh8G-7Edg


...but it didn't, and it feels like the Russos were mostly just waiting through scenes like that so they could get back to the fighting, which is where their heart really was (no offense to their work as a whole, since I do think they made the best MCU movie to date later on).

[SpelingError]

It just felt to me like the Russos cared a lot more about the action scenes than anything else in that film, whether it was the story, the 70's conspiracy thriller trappings, or the character-centric material, which felt like it was given the bare minimum of effort. Like, a scene like this should've felt much more emotional...

https://youtu.be/GBVh8G-7Edg


...but it didn't, and it feels like the Russos were mostly just waiting through scenes like that so they could get back to the fighting, which is where their heart really was (no offense to their work as a whole, since I do think they made the best MCU movie to date later on).

In my opinion, the conflict between Rogers and Bucky was the emotional core to the film and was what I was referring to up above when I mentioned that this character dynamic wasn't lost in the action. The final fight acted as a great payoff for this as it combined that dynamic with the action, making for an effective sequence, in my opinion.

[Deschain]

Hint, hint...


Feel like I'm trapped
Down in a hole
Drowned by work
Feeling so cold

I can't breathe
Drowned by grief
Blood to the teeth
Trying to live

My weapon is ego
Drown you with blabber
Never let ye go
Down stairs and ladder

This is the end
You are all blind
Cakes and cards
Is it all in my mind?


Sounds a lot like The Descent to me.

[ApexPredator]

Been gone a bit. Let's see what got revealed:

Seen and liked: Juno, Iron Man and Almost Famous
Seen and didn't care for: Watchmen
Haven't seen: Diving Bell and the Butterfly, Sunshine, Hedwig and the Angry Inch, Cache, The Three Burials, Man Who Wasn't There, Waking Life, Amores Perros

On My List: None

I'm sure some of them will show up soon enough. Can't help but to think they will.

[Sedai]

Pretty much 100% on The Descent being one of the next films, which I just watched again recently, and it keeps getting better every time I see it!

Drowned by work is a key statement for the other film, which I just can't quite figure out...

I will take a shot in the dark with Batman Begins for the other film.

[Thief]

Pretty much 100% on The Descent being one of the next films, which I just watched again recently, and it keeps getting better every time I see it!

Drowned by work is a key statement for the other film, which I just can't quite figure out...

I will take a shot in the dark with Batman Begins for the other film.

I'm not saying that your guess is right... but some of the lines from the hint might work for both films. So it's not necessarily "this line for this film, that line for that film" ;):D

[Sedai]

I'm not saying that your guess is right... but some of the lines from the hint might work for both films. So it's not necessarily "this line for this film, that line for that film" ;):D

I hear ya, but I am thinking at least some of the lines, or perhaps even just one, might be for one film or the other... :D

[matt72582]

Any reason why I can't see the amount of thumbs-up for the movie I upped?

[Yoda]

Discussed that a bit earlier:

Messes with the layout.

Also kinda dissonant: it's supposed to be a banner draped over the post, but there's nothing in that place to drape it over.

I might be able to add it back but it would need to be reworked or repositioned.
I'll see what I can do, but I'm literally closing on a house tomorrow, so it's a little bonkers right now.

[Thief]

I hear ya, but I am thinking at least some of the lines, or perhaps even just one, might be for one film or the other... :D

I can say that, at least, it is half and half for each film.

[Thief]

Reveals in a few...

[ynwtf]

Discussed that a bit earlier:


I'll see what I can do, but I'm literally closing on a house tomorrow, so it's a little bonkers right now.

o.O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf9i-XVeFBY

(I really can't help myself)

[SpelingError]

Reveals in a few...

Yay!

[Iroquois]

No votes. Linklater is one of my favourite directors and I did a tear through most of his filmography last year. Waking Life is definitely near the top of the heap for me, though its heavy lean on philosophy means that I don't exactly feel like going back to it too often. Despite getting quoted in Thief's follow-up post, I have to admit that Amores perros didn't hold up as well on a recent rewatch - still my favourite of Inarritu's work by some distance, but what does that even mean these days.

[Thief]

Reveals in a few...

Wait a minute, is rauldc14 about to go to sleep? :shifty: :D

[rauldc14]

Wait a minute, is rauldc14 about to go to sleep? :shifty: :D

Yes!

[mark f]

When he's not at work, yes.

[Thief]

Yes!

Let me go get some coffee :shifty:

[Thief]

80 points, 7 listsThe Descent (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/9392-the-descent.html)Director
Neil Marshall, 2005

Starring
Shauna Macdonald, Natalie Mendoza, Alex Reid, MyAnna Buring

[Thief]

80 points, 8 listsAmerican Psycho (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/1359-american-psycho.html)Director
Mary Harron, 2000

Starring
Christian Bale, Willem Dafoe, Jared Leto, Josh Lucas

[ScarletLion]

I've seen both and do appreciate them but neither came close to my ballot.

[Thief]

Sounds a lot like The Descent to me.

Pretty much 100% on The Descent being one of the next films, which I just watched again recently, and it keeps getting better every time I see it!

Drowned by work is a key statement for the other film, which I just can't quite figure out...

I will take a shot in the dark with Batman Begins for the other film.

Yeah, The Descent was kinda the obvious one. Will break down the hint now.

[Iroquois]

No votes. I've watched The Descent a couple of times and I do respect it to an extent but I find it hard to genuinely like it - certainly good at generating discomfort and horror in the abstract, but it's in service of plot and characters that I find underwhelming. American Psycho, on the other hand, is a classic.

[Thief]

Hint, hint...


Feel like I'm trapped (obvious for The Descent, but Bateman is in a way trapped)
Down in a hole (self explanatory)
Drowned by work (leaning more towards how the work/corporate life drowns people in AP)
Feeling so cold (can refer to the coldness of the cave or the coldness of a psychopath, or an emotionless yuppie)

(this paragraph is pretty much The Descent from top to bottom)
I can't breathe
Drowned by grief
Blood to the teeth
Trying to live

(while this one is pretty much American Psycho top to bottom)
My weapon is ego
Drown you with blabber (reference to Bateman talking and talking)
Never let ye go
Down stairs and ladder (this and the above, sorta reference to the chainsaw, stairs scene)

This is the end (end of the film)
You are all blind (literal blindness of cave creatures, darkness, or blindness to what's happening in AP)
Cakes and cards (reference to the birthday cake from The Descent, or the presentation cards in AP)
Is it all in my mind? (self explanatory for both since they're both ambiguous)


There you go, for those curious about the hint.

[Citizen Rules]

I'm not a fan of horror but have seen American Psycho it has some interesting aspects with the black comedy that's twisted. But I've never been a fan of gore killings. I prefer fluffy kitties and snowflake shaped cookies.

[rauldc14]

Renaming the countdown movies Raul has never seen.

[KeyserCorleone]

I knew American Psycho would make it. Thr Descent's been on my mind for a while, too. I've already seen Sanctum, The Cave and Time Trap. Might as well get on The Descent.

[John Dumbear]

About time to get around to seeing "The Descent", aye?

My twisted mind loved " American Psycho" .

[Holden Pike]

83473

American Psycho was #54 on the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium List. The Descent did not place there but was #24 the first time we did a MoFo Horror List and fell to #40 when the list was re-done in 2019.

[SpelingError]

I like both movies quite a bit, especially The Descent, but neither made my ballot.

[Thief]

Just realized that both films were followed by allegedly "cash-grab", straight-to-video sequels that sorta go against what's established in the first one. Can't say much cause I've never seen either of the sequels, but it kinda just popped out to me right now.

Anyway, I've seen both and love both. I've seen American Psycho a bunch of times and it's definitely deserving, but it's been a couple of good years since I last saw it, so I didn't vote for it.

The Descent, on the other hand, I consider to be probably the best horror film of the 2000s. Saw it in theater and it literally made me jump a couple of times. But aside from handling the tension, terror, and uncomfortable sense of not only being trapped in a cave, but trapped with some cannibalistic creatures, I think it does handle the character dynamics pretty well. I really thought about having it on my list, especially based on a recent rewatch (in October) where I had a particularly visceral reaction to it. I thought that was interesting and weird, especially considering that I've seen it probably close to 10 times, but this time I was literally fidgeting only at the first half scene where the girl is trapped in the cave corridor. My wife, who saw it with me in theaters, and has also seen it a good bunch of times (she likes this stuff) literally gave up. She couldn't go on watching this time. Despite that, it was one of the last 2 or 3 cuts I did to my list, but this is good stuff.

For what it's worth, here's the review (https://www.movieforums.com/reviews/2245251-the-descent.html) I wrote after that last rewatch.

So as of now, here's where I'm at...

Seen: 12/22


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[mark f]

Not on my ballot.

The Descent is always a good first watch. The first part before "they" show up is the better part, but it does have a pretty good twist ending, compared to most such.

American Psycho is an obvious film; not bad, but not that good either. In fact, I'm almost tempted to say that it psucks, but of course, it doesn't, really.

[Miss Vicky]

I blind bought American Psycho after hearing/reading tons of praise for it. It came in a three pack with Way of the Gun and Requiem for a Dream. I didn't care for it at all. Actually that whole pack was a strike-out for me.

I haven't seen The Descent.

At this point, I think all hope is lost for Quills. :(

Seen: 11/22

[Chypmunk]

Yay - not only back on the diet today but another from my list shows up :)
The Descent still holds up very well imo, well enough in fact to make my ballot and actually hoped it would be a little higher than this. Not much of a fan of Amercan Psycho personally though.

Seen: 13/22 (Own: 11/22)

3. Madeo [Mother] (2009) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216496/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_9) [#96]
16. The Descent (2005) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) [#80]
25. The Pool (2007) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0911024/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_6) [1-ptr]


Faildictions (millennial edition v1.0):
78. Burn After Reading (2008)
77. The Prestige (2006)

[pahaK]

OK. Since my last post, I've seen three more films. Iron Man is one of the better MCU movies. It was never in consideration for my ballot, but I think I'd grudgingly call it good.

I've also seen both of today's films. I suppose I should rewatch American Psycho one day, but back when it came out, I didn't particularly like it. Can't say much more about that one. The Descent, on the other hand, is one of my favorite horrors. It barely missed my all-time list, but on this one, I had it at #8. A great horror film.

Seen: 9/22

My Ballot:
5. Watchmen (2009) [#87]
8. The Descent (2005) [#80]
25. Harry Brown (2009) [1-pointer]

[rauldc14]

I was secretly hoping it was The Ring today.

[Deschain]

Heyyyy movies from my list!

I’ve watched A LOT of horror movies and The Descent is the scariest movie I’ve ever seen. Love it to death.


I’m surprised American Psycho is so low. One of my all time faves.

[kgaard]

Another solid pair of entries that didn't merit consideration for my list.

It's interesting to me that so many people have not seen a lot of these movies. I guess it's down to timing--I was in my late 20s/early to mid-30s and was not yet a parent, so I spent a lot of the 2000s watching movies. I've seen more movies from that decade (about 500) than any other. So I'm expecting I'll have seen most of this list--I'm only missing 3 so far (4 if you count #101).

[Wyldesyde19]

I blind bought American Psycho after hearing/reading tons of praise for it. It came in a three pack with Way of the Gun and Requiem for a Dream. I didn't care for it at all. Actually that whole pack was a strike-out for me.

I haven't seen The Descent.

At this point, I think all hope is lost for Quills. :(

Seen: 11/22

Way too early to give up on Quills, considering we’re only 22 movies in.

It should make it, considering it is on my ballot, and very highly at that.

[Thief]

I blind bought American Psycho after hearing/reading tons of praise for it. It came in a three pack with Way of the Gun and Requiem for a Dream. I didn't care for it at all. Actually that whole pack was a strike-out for me.



https://c.tenor.com/gWb4HvaX8LIAAAAC/come-on-oh-come-on.gif

[Derek Vinyard]

two very very good movies that didn't make my list but almost

[Thief]

Critics

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Critics thoughts on our #80, The Descent...

https://i.imgur.com/WPOaE2Y.png

It currently has an 86% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 7.2/10 score on IMDb (with 214,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★★ and said:

"Finally, a scary movie with teeth, not just blood and entrails -- a savage and gripping piece of work that jangles your nerves without leaving your brain hanging. And so, for a change, you emerge feeling energized and exhilarated rather than enervated, or merely queasy."

On the other hand, Claudia Puig, of USA Today, said:

"For my money, [the] first 20 or so minutes are the best in the film. Once the real adventure gets underway in the cave, things get less interesting."

As for our MoFo reviewers, Sedai said:

"The Descent doesn't do anything terribly original, to be sure, but at no point does it fall into any typical horror pitfalls, and the director keeps his hand off the usual tension release valves for the entire film. So, so many horrors will attempt to alleviate tension with a little comedy or a conversation here and there with a lighter tone. This film has a crushing grip that never relents, and a completely bleak ending that pulls no punches. It's also incredibly rich with subtext."

And Holden Pike said:

"The Descent delivers more character development than you often get in the genre, and the tension builds well even before all Hell breaks loose ... Can't say there's anything especially new here, but it's well made and involving just the same. "

[Thief]

Critics

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Critics thoughts on our #79, American Psycho...

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It currently has a 69% Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 7.6/10 score on IMDb (with 537,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★ and said:

"Christian Bale is heroic in the way he allows the character to leap joyfully into despicability; there is no instinct for self-preservation here, and that is one mark of a good actor."

On the other hand, Kenneth Turan, of the Los Angeles Times, said:

"The difficult truth is that the more viewers can model themselves after protagonist Bateman, the more they can distance themselves from the human reality of the slick violence that fills the screen and take it all as some kind of a cool joke, the more they are likely to enjoy this stillborn, pointless piece of work."

As for our MoFo reviewers, Sir2lazyThe2nd said:

"I honestly didn't know what to expect from this film. I heard some things about it before, some good, some bad. And when I watched the film, I had no idea it would be this good. What I liked about this film was Christian Bales amazing performance as Patrick Bateman."

And KasperKristensen said:

"I guess I just expected more from the movie based on the book, which was so violent that it was criticized of being utterly and completely pointless. And I certainly expected more from Bale. This only sneaks up to this grade due to Bale’s performance in the breakdown scene."

[MovieMeditation]

Another two I really like. The Descent used to be my favorite horror when I was younger. Still really enjoy it.

American Psycho is good fun. A classic Bale flick and it's very entertaining.

Non from my list as of yet...

[Harry Lime]

I haven't seen The Descent. Am I a bad person? Maybe. Am I a bad person because I haven't see The Descent? No. I do think American Psycho is the greatest romantic comedy of a generation, though.

[seanc]

Another for my possibly might watch someday to check off the list and n The Descent.

Satire is sometimes a tough sell for me. It needs to be really funny, otherwise if it quacks too much it’s just a duck. Bale is good though. I give American Psycho a passing grade.

[Thief]

Trailers

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSGiSZWFOtE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YnGhW4UEhc

[Thief]

Anybody that hasn't seen The Descent, but feels compelled to watch because of this, make sure you check out the one with the original ending.

[Captain Terror]

Anybody that hasn't seen The Descent, but feels compelled to watch because of this, make sure you check out the one with the original ending.

Correct!

[Sedai]

Anybody that hasn't seen The Descent, but feels compelled to watch because of this, make sure you check out the one with the original ending.

I was just about to post this! I got the **** ended when I saw it in theaters, but my copy at home has the proper ending in place, which is much better, IMO.

Anyway, The Descent was #14 on my list, and could probably have been higher. Probably the best theatrical horror experience I have had, as the movie really lent itself to extra tension while sitting in a dark cavernous room with a bunch of other people. A big biker guy with a bunch of tattoos screamed like a 5 year-old girl during that one scene. you know the one. ;)

American Psycho was briefly in consideration, but got cut fairly quickly.

[Tugg]

European ending of The Descent is the good one.

[CosmicRunaway]

How did I forget about The Descent when I made my list? I would've placed it around the 15-ish area had I remembered it. A friend of mine who is quite claustrophobic surprisingly recommended the film to me, and I've watched it a couple times since then. As a few others have pointed out though, make sure you don't watch a copy that has the alternate ending.

I saw American Psycho once, and remember having mixed opinions about it. The scene with the business cards is really all that sticks out in my mind. I've been meaning to rewatch it for about a decade now, but I'm starting to wonder if I ever will haha.

Seen: 9/22

My List:
08. Mother (2009) - #96
10. Iron Man (2008) - #83
25. Bon Cop, Bad Cop (2006) - 1-pointer

Salty About Forgetting: The Descent (2005)

[Miss Vicky]

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:shrug:

Not my cup of tea. Also, I hate Christian Bale even though I did vote for a movie he's in.

[Thief]

:shrug:

Not my cup of tea. Also, I hate Christian Bale even if I did vote for a movie he's in.

Yeah, but Requiem?? :(

;)

[mattiasflgrtll6]

I can't tell who's a harsher critic, Miss Vicky or Iroquis.


American Psycho is the second movie that came close to making my list. Really close in fact. But for some reason I wasn't super duper 100% sure of putting it on there, so it missed the cut. Still nice to see that it made the countdown.


The Descent I've thought about seeing many times and have definitely got to give a watch some day. As Above, So Below is another movie that took place almost entirely underground, and although it was no masterpiece it really made you panic with how inescapable the place seemed to be. I expect this to give me the same kind of feeling.

[Sedai]

As Above, So Below is another movie that took place almost entirely underground, and although it was no masterpiece it really made you panic with how inescapable the place seemed to be. I expect this to give me the same kind of feeling.

Underrated flick. My wife and I like this one a lot.

[mrblond]

I saw #79. American Psycho twenty years ago when it was released in the theaters.
Naturally, I don't remember many details but the feeling and the visual style are still fresh in my mind. Back then, this movie was special for us mostly because of its main actor who was the grew up boy from our loved Spielberg classic of the 80's (guess the film).

Anyway, every time when I prepare a list about cinema of 2000 or the 2000's, I consider for a while this film. It would probably be my #40 of the decade.

▷ This movie is ranked #5 in MoFo 2000 Film Chart (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=64356).
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I've never heard the title placed on #80.

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Seen 9/22.
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My list:
#9. Amores perros [#81.]
#14. The Man Who Wasn't There [#84.]
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(seen one pointers 3/38)

[MovieFan1988]

Have seen so far: 6 - The Descent was an ok movie and American Psycho was good, one of the last movies to watch before putting my 2000s list together and thought it would make it but it didn't
Have not seen so far: 16

[Thief]

Awards

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Now to the awards received by The Descent...



Saturn Award for Best Horror Film
British Independent Film Award for Best Director (Neil Marshall)
British Independent Film Award for Best Technical Achievement - Editing (Jon Harris)
Empire Award for Best Horror
Golden Trailer Award for Best Thriller



As for American Psycho, it won...



Awards Circuit Community Award for Best Lead Actor (Christian Bale)
Chlotrudis Award for Best Adapted Screenplay (Mary Harron and Guinevere Turner)
Chlotrudis Award for Best Actor (Bale)
Fangoria Chainsaw Award for Best Wide-Release Film
Fangoria Chainsaw Award for Best Actor (Bale)
International Horror Guild Best Movie Award

[Chypmunk]

Chlotrudis ..... isn't that an STI?
:suspicious:

[cricket]

The last time I watched American Psycho my opinion of it plummeted.

The Descent is awesome.

[gandalf26]

"I killed Paul Allen........and I liked it"

[honeykid]

I'm up to 6/20 so still doing lame over here.
Even I've seen more than that. Dude, it's a 00's countdown and you've seen fewer movies than I have? Even at this early stage that's not a good sign. I expect it won't last much longer though. :D

I blind bought American Psycho after hearing/reading tons of praise for it. It came in a three pack with Way of the Gun and Requiem for a Dream. I didn't care for it at all. Actually that whole pack was a strike-out for me.
I always get sad when I am reminded that MV didn't like Way Of The Gun. :( Another surefire film for the list I didn't send in.

I like The Descent. It was a bit of a weird cinema experience becasue I was with 4 other people and when we left the screening I was in a good mood and then on the way to the car, the grumbling started... Well, that was a waste of time, wasn't it? What a load of ****! and so on. I just asked "what?" and they all regaled me with why it was terrible and not just that they didn't enjoy it (which they obviously hadn't) but actually poor. I was gobsmacked. OK, once the talc covered Gollum's showed up it went downhill and they were a bit silly, but it was stiil good and before it was terrific, wasn't it? No, came the answer. Thought they were weird then and still do. I don't know if it'd make my list (I thought I might struggle getting to 25 for this so it's possible) but even if I hadn't, it's an excellent addition.

American Psycho, on the other hand, to quote my friends, "Well, that was a waste of time, wasn't it? What a load of ****!" :D I only saw it the once though and was expecting something a little more serious/conventional, so maybe knowing what I'm going into would make all the difference?

[Deschain]

The Descent came out the summer I graduated high school. Out of all my friends only two agreed to go see it with me. We were all scared ****less on a hot summer afternoon. Coming out of the theater I was all excited going, “Wasn’t that great!?” And my friends, still shaking, said, “You’re not allowed to pick the movies anymore.”

[Pussy Galore]

I'm not a big horror fan, there are quite few horror movies I really like. The Descent is better then 90% of the horror movies I've seen, but it's still not a favorite of mine. Kind of entertaining and well thought concept.

I like American Psycho a lot, I agree with Harry Lime that it's a comedy, there are some seriously hilarious stuff in there. The throw of the chainsaw, the lovemaking while making poses. It wasn't close to make my list, but I find it very good.

[ApexPredator]

I liked The Descent. Watching the women band together (for the most part) without the help of men was empowering and fascinating.

American Psycho does well in places, but it's ultimately just another story about a psycho doing terrible things to people. Bale does give a good performance and I'll admit it inspired one of the best songs of the year.

Neither one made my list.

[edarsenal]

I always get sad when I am reminded that MV didn't like Way Of The Gun. :( Another surefire film for the list I didn't send in.

Don't think I ever hear any love for Way of the Gun glad to hear some. Great flick!

[gandalf26]

Booooo to all the American Psycho haters, every single scene is a laugh riot! :):)

[edarsenal]

Have not seen The Man Who Wasn't There, Waking Life, or Amores Perros.

Iron Man Is in the upper echelon of favorite Marvel films. it definitely paved the way for everything that followed getting all us comic geeks pretty d@mn excited considering all the dismal failures in the decades previously.
Watched The Descent with my roomie, she thoroughly liked it and I'd be a liar if I claimed otherwise.
American Psycho is a pretty decent dark comedy. Not a huge fan but I do enjoy it a couple of times I've seen it.




Films Watched 12 out of 22 (54.54%)
17. Mother (#96)
25. A Bittersweet Life (One Pointer)


One Pointers: 10 out of 38 (26.31%)

[ueno_station54]

I haven't seen The Descent since it was in theatres. Hated it at the time.
I remember digging American Psycho but also haven't seen it since I was an edgy highschooler when it would have had max appeal for me. Both of these its been far too long.

[John W Constantine]

"I killed Paul Allen........and I liked it"

Do you like Phil Collins?

[rauldc14]

I'll be back to reading the clue tonight

[Thief]

Do you like Phil Collins?

https://c.tenor.com/JlxBDYMuh9wAAAAC/dance-dancing.gif

[dadgumblah]

Okay! The Descent was on my list. Love this movie, and its director. He's directed several movies that I love and even one great episode of Game of Thrones. Glad to see it here. I also love American Psycho though it didn't make my list. The chainsaw drop down the stairwell is one of my favorite scenes in all of film, so I guess that makes me either a sicko or someone with a sense of humor, or both? :D

Since some people have taken to veiling their lists, I think I'll do the same. Seems fun!

EDIT: Crap! Tried to used the spoiler tag, but it failed for me as I haven't done it in a while. So anyway, right out in the open again:
#20.Iron Man 83
#23.The Descent 80

[Thief]

Okay! The Descent was on my list. Love this movie, and its director. He's directed several movies that I love and even one great episode of Game of Thrones.


Yep. Marshall directed two episodes of Game of Thrones ("Blackwater" and "The Watchers on the Wall")


Since some people have taken to veiling their lists, I think I'll do the same. Seems fun!

EDIT: Crap! Tried to used the spoiler tag, but it failed for me as I haven't done it in a while. So anyway, right out in the open again:
#20.Iron Man 83
#23.The Descent 80

Just a reminder that you can only reveal the films that have been listed already in the countdown (and the one-pointers). Nothing more. At the end of the countdown, we can all reveal our complete ballots and share any thoughts on them.

[Thief]

Trivia

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The Descent

https://nofspodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/descentaus8large-800x430.jpg

Did you know that...


the cast was supposed to be mixed, but Neil Marshall's partner recommended him to have an all-female cast? To avoid clichés, he sought the advice of female friends.
Marshall barred the cast from seeing the actors in full creature make-up until their first appearance on screen?
the actresses disliked the dialogue for the scene where Sarah finds Beth? They told Marshall and the three went to a nearby pub where they rewrote the dialogue on a napkin.
all the cave scenes were filmed on built sets? 21 separate cave sets were built which were carefully used with different angles. The entrance in the below picture is CG.


https://www.quartertothree.com/fp/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/descent2.png

[Thief]

Trivia

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American Psycho

http://verocinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/american-psycho-1.jpg

Did you know that...


David Cronenberg was the original choice to direct?
after Cronenberg walked out, DiCaprio was attached to the project for a while, even suggesting potential directors (Oliver Stone, Danny Boyle, Martin Scorsese)?
Christian Bale was Marry Harron's original choice, and he agreed to the role on good faith (no contract)? When the studio brought DiCaprio, Bale remained committed, turning down movie roles and auditions for 9 months because he was sure DiCaprio would drop and he would step back in.
during the chainsaw chase scene, Bale would wear a sock over his penis and some tennis shoes between takes?


https://bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/psycho-2.jpg

[dadgumblah]

Yep. Marshall directed two episodes of Game of Thrones ("Blackwater" and "The Watchers on the Wall")



Just a reminder that you can only reveal the films that have been listed already in the countdown (and the one-pointers). Nothing more. At the end of the countdown, we can all reveal our complete ballots and share any thoughts on them.

Thanks, Thief! I was referring to Blackwater in particular. I forgot that he directed a second one.

And thanks for the reminder on the reveal rules---I got a little confused because some folks are still covering theirs up. So I thought I had to again for some reason. It's been a long week for me. 🤪

[PHOENIX74]

80. The Descent : My 2000s movie watching marathon paid off in several instances already - I rewatched The Descent just a few weeks ago - it is a film that I can watch and enjoy multiple times. I am surprised as hell though, that's it's showed up in a top 100 for the decade. Well, go The Descent! I'm happy for it. I'm claustrophobic, so the build-up in this film is supremely uncomfortable for me - and I really enjoy being made uncomfortable like that for some reason when watching a movie. By the time the real horror kicks in I've already been set on edge by the panic and despair of these cave explorers (there's a word for them I'm sure) and horror really works when you've been put in that place. Dark, bloody, desperate and scary it is, it didn't come into consideration for my list.

79. American Psycho : There was a big hullabaloo when American Psycho the novel was published, and some of that notoriety carried over into the movie version. I only wish I'd read the novel so I can make some kind of comparison. I count it as good, even though it doesn't rise to absolute greatness. It definitely put Christian Bale on my radar - without even realising this was the kid from Empire of the Sun. This is something that wants to tell us something in a very loud and up-front kind of way, though I'm guessing the kind of people it pontificates about are usually the ones that don't get it. It's a real feel-bad movie, and was never one of my favourites - but when I've seen something multiple times it must be for a reason, so perhaps it deserves it's place on the list. This time I'm not surprised by a particular reveal.

2 films I've seen! But no votes this time. I've already dismissed 4 or 5 of my selections as no-hopers.

Seen 13/22

[Thief]

Hint, hint...


Hey, buddy. I don't feel well.
Don't wanna end up in a trunk
or driving around on my way to hell.

Hey, buddy. Help me with the job.
Don't want to leus this opportunity
To hang out with the famous and snob.

[TheUsualSuspect]

25. American Psycho (2000)

It was going to be a toss-up for me between American Psycho and The Descent for my final spot. I'm glad they both made it and are right beside each other.

The Descent is one hell of a movie and I rewatched it this Halloween with a friend who had never seen it before. Claustrophobic as hell and extremely well shot. Marshall uses colour to his advantage when we're deep in a dark cave and It's always refreshing to see characters making genuinely smart decisions in horror.

American Psycho is a film that I've always had a soft spot for and most of it has to do with the performance from Bale. It's probably my favourite performance from him. Lots of people didn't know what to make of this movie when it came out and luckily it has amassed a cult following since then. It's funny, shocking and grotesque in all the right ways. I tend to quote it every so often and the people I'm quoting it to never seem to know what the hell I'm saying.

[gbgoodies]

I'm sure it's no surprise to anyone that I haven't seen The Descent and American Psycho.

[pahaK]

79. American Psycho : There was a big hullabaloo when American Psycho the novel was published, and some of that notoriety carried over into the movie version. I only wish I'd read the novel so I can make some kind of comparison.

I was in high school when the book was published, and here in Finland, it sparked some discussions about the limits of art and free speech (yeah, we have a long history of stupid censorship). I remember talking about it in school, too, and reading the book myself mostly because of all the ruckus. Didn't really like it then, but the murders were certainly graphic and the movie pales in comparison in that regard.

[Iroquois]

I can't tell who's a harsher critic, Miss Vicky or Iroquis

Trick question, it's honeykid.

[Thief]

Hint, hint...


Hey, buddy. I don't feel well.
Don't wanna end up in a trunk
or driving around on my way to hell.

Hey, buddy. Help me with the job.
Don't want to leus this opportunity
To hang out with the famous and snob.


No guesses today? :shifty:

[seanc]

No guesses today? :shifty:

I’m terrible at this game but first to come to mind for me was

Hangover

[rauldc14]

Well, if Sean's guess is right the countdown will have redeemed itself

[Thief]

I’m terrible at this game but first to come to mind for me was

Hangover

https://c.tenor.com/EydvQ1uNeXYAAAAC/the-office-michael-scott.gif

[Thief]

Well, if Sean's guess is right the countdown will have redeemed itself

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/18/eb/7d/18eb7dd3dc8fd803a899979467bfe493.gif

[Sedai]

I liked The Descent. Watching the women band together (for the most part) without the help of men was empowering and fascinating.


But...

Do they really band together in an empowered way? Once they get to the cave, things unravel and you have a series of events that completely decimates the group. Juno sleeps with one woman's husband, tricks them all into going into uncharted caves, and then ends up killing one of the woman when she chops her neck with a climbing axe in a fit of savage blood lust, albeit while battling subterranean creatures...

All the girls end up dead, except for one, who ends up trapped and mad in a purgatory, cackling manically while she thinks she is having birthday cake with her dead child.

[rauldc14]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/18/eb/7d/18eb7dd3dc8fd803a899979467bfe493.gif

Curses and drats. Probably another horror film then.

[KeyserCorleone]

I'll admit, the hint flat out stumped me this time.


Watched The Descent last night. Damn. Shoulda watched it on my TV with the lights out instead of on my phone. It legit got me excited. The characters were occasionally flat, and the genre switch from cave exploration to monster movie felt a little weird, but that didn't stop it from being seriously scary.


81.

[Sedai]

I don't have a guess today - those hints are tougher!

[Thief]

Well, you guys wanted tough, didn't you!?? Didn't you!!??


:D

[Thief]

But...

Do they really band together in an empowered way? Once they get to the cave, things unravel and you have a series of events that completely decimates the group. Juno sleeps with one woman's husband, tricks them all into going into uncharted caves, and then ends up killing one of the woman when she chops her neck with a climbing axe in a fit of savage blood lust, albeit while battling subterranean creatures...

All the girls end up dead, except for one, who ends up trapped and mad in a purgatory, cackling manically while she thinks she is having birthday cake with her dead child.

Those are valid points, but I do see the empowerment in terms that they are capable women, all of them able to hold their own in many ways against the environment and against the creatures. They just happen to be in an impossible situation.

[rauldc14]

So it's almost that bedtime again!

[Thief]

Reveals in a minute...

[ynwtf]

Reveals in a minute...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbVYdeMCokQ

[Thief]

82 points, 5 listsThe Death of Mr. Lazarescu (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/31032-the-death-of-mr.-lazarescu.html)Director
Cristi Puiu, 2005

Starring
Ioan Fiscuteanu, Luminița Gheorghiu, Doru Ana, Monica Bîrlădeanu

[Thief]

82 points, 8 listsBattle Royale (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/3176-battle-royale.html)Director
Kinji Fukasaku, 2000

Starring
Tatsuya Fujiwara, Aki Maeda, Takeshi Kitano, Tarō Yamamoto

[Thief]

I know SpelingError will enjoy one of those.

[Miss Vicky]

I don't think I've ever even heard of the The Death of Mr. Lazarescu and haven't seen Battle Royale.

[Thief]

Ok, this two are part of yet another 3-way tie (the last 3-way tie, but not the last tie), so I kinda messed up half of the hint. But it's a hint, so what the heck...

Anyway...

Hint, hint...


Hey, buddy. I don't feel well. (part of this has to do with the ill man in Lazarescu)
Don't wanna end up in a trunk
or driving around on my way to hell. (In that film, they drive around looking for a hospital to treat him)

Hey, buddy. Help me with the job.
Don't want to leus this opportunity ("Leus" is the currency of Romania, setting of Lazarescu)
To hang out with the famous and snob.


The other lines all have to do with tomorrow's first entry (#76), so there's that.

[pahaK]

I haven't seen first, but Battle Royale was #18 on my ballot. It's a sci-fi dystopia that makes zero sense, but the film is super fun. Over the top violence, Kitano being himself, and a concept that's ruined video games for the unforeseeable future. Very Japanese film.

Seen: 10/24

My Ballot:
5. Watchmen (2009) [#87]
8. The Descent (2005) [#80]
18. Battle Royale (2000) [#77]
25. Harry Brown (2009) [1-pointer]

[KeyserCorleone]

Both directors I'm not yet familiar with. It's Pride and Prejudice today! (Admits to seiing Hunger Games and not getting deeply into the type of plot and hasn't seen the sequels or Battle Royale as a result.

[Thief]

I haven't seen The Death of Mister Lazarescu, but SpelingError has spoken very highly of it, and has recommended it to me a couple of times.

As for Battle Royale, I saw it about a year or two ago and liked it, but wasn't blown away by it. It's a good film.


Obviously, none of them made my list...

Seen: 13/24


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