Coronavirus

[Austruck]

I braved grocery shopping today, mostly to stock the freezer. Already had plenty of paper products. I laughed at the one non-toilet-paper item that was almost completely gone: BACON.

Welcome to western Pennsylvania! :)

Otherwise, a fair number of people in the store but nobody rushing around or acting any differently. I don't mind the stockpiling and such as long as people aren't panicking. It's being responsible without turning into a self-centered jerk.

[cricket]

My work should be fine because the liquor stores are telling me it's busier than ever. I've also been working part time Saturday and Sunday nights picking up patient's blood tests. Think I'll start wearing gloves since I go to all hospitals and clinics. I have a routine physical in 10 days, I will postpone that.

[NedStark09]

Trump just decalred national emergency which just mean panic will get worse. What happened with keeping citizens in the dark. I think rather have them days. If i was president i would have declared a gag order from all press to release any personal information on people sick. News and media have too much ease to spread panic then anything else.

[Mesmerized]

I just figure if you smell like garlic people gunna stay away. :rotfl:

It also keeps the vampires away.

[John McClane]

Markets are bouncing back like crazy today. Never seen so much green in one day. $JCP bounced 46%, $INTC bounced 20%, $BB bounced 18%. Ridiculous.

But I'll probably burn, too. I just took advantage of this whole situation. Rebooked a hotel stay under an advance pay rate. Cost the same as my original rate and I get to keep my points. Plus, I can cancel it 24 hours ahead of time even tho its a nonrefundable rate.

[Citizen Rules]

Well we decided to go the grocery store after all. It is snowing, which hopefully will keep the crowds away. I'll report back on my journey:p
Back from shopping at Fred Meyers, noon time with sleet & snow. The store was more crowded than usual but not bad. The shelves were bare of many items, no: flour, rice, pasta and of course toilet paper! Me and the wife wore face mask and gloves. I'm glad we did, if nothing else it takes guts to do that...and my wife has to take care of her 101 year old grandmother so neither of us can afford to catch the cornonavirus and pass it on to older family members who have health problems.

So it's pizza night here at the CR's house, and of course I make it by hand:p

[Mesmerized]

Google is building a screening website to gain access to coronavirus testing, Trump says
https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19


President Trump declares a national emergency
Speech followed by a news conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EJS7xGRNbk

[Yoda]

The governor of my state (Pennsylvania) just closed all schools for the next 10 days. I expect most states to follow suit, either for a week or two, or through the end of the month. Can always re-open, after all, if this mostly works and things peak quickly.

[NedStark09]

You can bet walmart stores wont close. I just thought of a cure take some Chuck Norris DNA and Stone Cold Steve Austin DNA and little Bruce Lee and inject it into a test subject and watch Corona get its ass kicked and walked dry

[GulfportDoc]

State of VA just closed all public k-12 schools for 2 weeks.
One might wonder why they're doing that. Evidently the virus is not affecting children:
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/we-simply-do-not-understand-why-coronavirus-sparing-children-puzzling-n1147951
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/05/health/coronavirus-children.html
School closures not only put lots of people out of work, but they also might deprive children of acquiring natural immunity.

[Citizen Rules]

One might wonder why they're doing that. Evidently the virus is not affecting children:
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/we-simply-do-not-understand-why-coronavirus-sparing-children-puzzling-n1147951
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/05/health/coronavirus-children.html
School closures not only put lots of people out of work, but they also might deprive children of acquiring natural immunity.Children can spread it to parents and grandparents. The elderly are at a risk of dying from coronavirus. I'm sure all the school closings etc, are being done as a necessity for the public's health.

[NedStark09]

They likely see it as they may be immune but could be carriers. We do live in an era where Trump is president and so can imagine government logic

[Stirchley]

One might wonder why they're doing that. Evidently the virus is not affecting children

Unfortunately, that is not true. A child here in Connecticut has the virus.

[The Rodent]

Coronavirus handshake!


https://i.redd.it/odav394xhqk41.gif

[NedStark09]

I normally like to make fun of the press and can take a good joke during a crisis. But Im less able to laugh at people dying. Now a joke about Corona virus likely could be cured by Chuck Norris sweat.



Thats harmless. But I can tell you how serious a joke like the handshake is. My Own sister had surgery and when my other sister went to see her. She wouldn't even hug her own sister. And my sister was in a CCU. Not sure can get more clean then that.


Just sad how a hug cant be done now. All because Trump didn't give USA more aid in a group effort to help China cure this thing already. Aid can be experts in this field from America and China working together

[Siddon]

One might wonder why they're doing that. Evidently the virus is not affecting children:
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/we-simply-do-not-understand-why-coronavirus-sparing-children-puzzling-n1147951
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/05/health/coronavirus-children.html
School closures not only put lots of people out of work, but they also might deprive children of acquiring natural immunity.


Children have a natural immunity to it, but they can still transmit the virus which is the fear.

[Hey Fredrick]

All because Trump didn't give USA more aid in a group effort to help China cure this thing already. Aid can be experts in this field from America and China working together

That would have been a good idea.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7940139/China-turned-offer-send-scientists-fight-coronavirus.html
https://www.eutimes.net/2020/01/china-refuses-us-aid-in-fight-against-coronavirus/
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/07/health/cdc-coronavirus-china.html

[JoaoRodrigues]

I'm wondering who is profiting from this corona virus thing.
I don't mean the supermarkets and the pharmaceuticals.

[John McClane]

I hit the store yesterday and stocked up on Beach Cliff sardines. Ya can’t eat toilet paper, and these suckers will last till 2024. Bring on the fear buying because no one will be in the meat isle fighting me for sardines.

Be prepared.

[The Rodent]

More people in the US have died testifying against Hillary Clinton, than have died from Coronavirus.
Think about it.

[Iroquois]

Coronavirus handshake!


https://i.redd.it/odav394xhqk41.gif

Maybe this is what leads society to adopt the three seashells.

[NedStark09]

Probably after this year people from China will likely have to have a 3 day blood test before can come into America or other countries. Also can you imagine having a simple cough on a plane and a stewardess bring you a parashoot and you are asked to leave the plane. This will be the silly **** you will hear stories about even if the Virus is over and done with.


More people have died In America just driving a Car then the Corona Virus. Only reason Trump Called Any Emergency is Because Tom Hanks Mr Rogers got infected and a Leader from another country got it that Trump Shook hands with. In Hanks instance actors travel to allot of places with lots of chances to get worst disease.

[Citizen Rules]

If misinformation was gold, some of you would be rich by now:rolleyes:

[Wyldesyde19]

More people in the US have died testifying against Hillary Clinton, than have died from Coronavirus.
Think about it.
Please tell me you’re not serious with this 🙄

[Wyldesyde19]

Probably after this year people from China will likely have to have a 3 day blood test before can come into America or other countries. Also can you imagine having a simple cough on a plane and a stewardess bring you a parashoot and you are asked to leave the plane. This will be the silly **** you will hear stories about even if the Virus is over and done with.


More people have died In America just driving a Car then the Corona Virus. Only reason Trump Called Any Emergency is Because Tom Hanks Mr Rogers got infected and a Leader from another country got it that Trump Shook hands with. In Hanks instance actors travel to allot of places with lots of chances to get worst disease.
Apples and oranges comparison, especially considering cars has been around for over a century 🙄

[Wyldesyde19]

My brother and I stocked up on TP a month ago, just because we were out. Now, we’re kings. I can sell them off one square at a time, provided the price is right. 😈
*cue evil laughter*

[Yoda]

Friend of mine on Facebook: "Ladies, I have toilet paper..."

[Citizen Rules]

Factual tip: don't use paper towels as toilet paper and try to flush them down the toilet. You'll clog it up.

[Mesmerized]

Toilet paper substitutes

https://www.askaprepper.com/homemade-substitutes-toilet-paper/

[Captain Steel]

You can also make your TP go further with this little tip (it's a bit graphic)...
Rip off two squares and place them together, rotating one to form something like a star of David design - this way you have 8 corners sticking out in all directions for maximum wiping coverage while still having two-ply in the center!

[Powdered Water]

No tp at my store last night. Shaking my head indeed...

[Citizen Rules]

Why the toilet paper shortage? Has this ever happened before with say people stocking up for an expected hurricane?

[Optimus]

My local supermarket was starting to run thin today. I’m worrying because I have a autistic child who has a crazy diet.

[Powdered Water]

Why the toilet paper shortage? Has this ever happened before with say people stocking up for an expected hurricane?

No idea. Your guess is as good as mine. People are weird.

[Citizen Rules]

No idea. Your guess is as good as mine. People are weird.Ha, no arguments there...people are weird alright! But I was wondering if some official or some web site suggested stock piling toilet paper.

[Chypmunk]

The ONLY toilet paper available in our local store the other day was Cushelle ..... doesn't really say much for that brand does it :D

[Mr Minio]

I've been stocking up on food for some time now, and probably have a month-worth for a sensible person. I'm not sensible. Oh, and I'm ordering food, too. They closed all restaurants, so they turned delivery-only.

[Yoda]

https://twitter.com/jameshamblin/status/1238269994061959168

[Mesmerized]

Better to overreact than to get the virus and die.

[NedStark09]

My Sisters Boyfriend Works at Walmart and is first to know when the Toilet paper comes in. We have a big pack already but he's gonna get another pack when its delivered on Tuesday

[Captain Steel]

Why the toilet paper shortage? Has this ever happened before with say people stocking up for an expected hurricane?

Not in my experience, Rules.

When storms are announced people do go a bit nuts, but the things that usually empty off the shelves are bread and milk, and bottled water also. (On Thursday, my supermarket was almost out of packaged bread, lots of people were stocking up on bottled water, but the milk supply seemed normal.) No one had TP in their cart because it had already sold out at least the day before.

Sometimes snow shovels & rock salt (or ice melt) will sell out when a big snow storm is predicted. With hurricanes Irene & Sandy, I remember the stores being cleared of batteries and flashlights. This is the first time I recall TP being hoarded.

Now I'm wondering if there will be price gouging on TP when new shipments get delivered to the supermarkets.

[Citizen Rules]

Not in my experience, Rules.

When storms are announced people do go a bit nuts, but the things that usually empty off the shelves are bread and milk, and bottled water also. (On Thursday, my supermarket was almost out of packaged bread, lots of people were stocking up on bottled water, but the milk supply seemed normal.) No one had TP in their cart because it had already sold out at least the day before.

Sometimes snow shovels & rock salt (or ice melt) will sell out when a big snow storm is predicted. With hurricanes Irene & Sandy, I remember the stores being cleared of batteries and flashlights. This is the first time I recall TP being hoarded.

Now I'm wondering if there will be price gouging on TP when new shipments get delivered to the supermarkets. I first went 'supply shopping' some 2 1/2 weeks ago and I seen people stocking up on water and TP then, but just a couple people. I bought the usual groceries, but did buy more than usual, just in case. I was actually going to make a thread that night and call it Pre-Apocalyptic Grocery Shopping, just because there was this weird vibe in the store, it felt like static electricity caffeine. My wife didn't notice it, so I'll chalk it up to precognition.

Anyway little did I know I should have bought TP that day! Well, my plan was to go to Costco the next day and get TP, but I was tired so we postponed Costco. By the time we finally got there TP was gone! Price fixing? We had to pay a lot for TP on Amazon, emphasize a lot.

[gbgoodies]

Not in my experience, Rules.

When storms are announced people do go a bit nuts, but the things that usually empty off the shelves are bread and milk, and bottled water also. (On Thursday, my supermarket was almost out of packaged bread, lots of people were stocking up on bottled water, but the milk supply seemed normal.) No one had TP in their cart because it had already sold out at least the day before.

Sometimes snow shovels & rock salt (or ice melt) will sell out when a big snow storm is predicted. With hurricanes Irene & Sandy, I remember the stores being cleared of batteries and flashlights. This is the first time I recall TP being hoarded.

Now I'm wondering if there will be price gouging on TP when new shipments get delivered to the supermarkets.

I first went 'supply shopping' some 2 1/2 weeks ago and I seen people stocking up on water and TP then, but just a couple people. I bought the usual groceries, but did buy more than usual, just in case. I was actually going to make a thread that night and call it Pre-Apocalyptic Grocery Shopping, just because there was this weird vibe in the store, it felt like static electricity caffeine. My wife didn't notice it, so I'll chalk it up to precognition.

Anyway little did I know I should have bought TP that day! Well, my plan was to go to Costco the next day and get TP, but I was tired so we postponed Costco. By the time we finally got there TP was gone! Price fixing? We had to pay a lot for TP on Amazon, emphasize a lot.


We've seen a lot of crazy stuff when storms are coming, but nothing like this. The supermarkets shelves are almost completely empty around here. In addition to things like TP, water, and Lysol and Clorox wipes, there's no leafy greens like lettuce, spinach, kale, etc., no raw chicken or beef, no bread, no orange juice, etc.

In addition to all that stuff that wasn't available, Costco had no eggs at all, not even the brown eggs. They had no canned chicken or tuna, no vitamin C and Ester C, and there was a line that went almost the length of the entire store for bottled water.

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[GulfportDoc]

Children can spread it to parents and grandparents. The elderly are at a risk of dying from coronavirus. I'm sure all the school closings etc, are being done as a necessity for the public's health.
Yes, that is evidently the logic. However, according to the articles, it's not that children are getting it and simply not showing any symptoms, thereby having the potential to pass it on to adults; but they're not getting it at all very much. Reportedly 2.4%, although I don't know how they've ascertained that percentage since they don't test people without symptoms.

Here are some other surprising facts from the CDC (Centers for Disease Control), and JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association):

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762130
"No deaths were reported among mild and severe cases. The CFR (case-fatality rate) was 49.0% among critical cases. CFR was elevated among those with preexisting comorbid conditions—10.5% for cardiovascular disease, 7.3% for diabetes, 6.3% for chronic respiratory disease, 6.0% for hypertension, and 5.6% for cancer. "

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/healthcare-facilities/guidance-hcf.html#f1
“Recent reports suggest that approximately 80% of COVID-19 patients (of all ages) have experienced mild illness[i] (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/healthcare-facilities/guidance-hcf.html#f1).”

Note that "mild" means few or no symptoms while having the virus.

So neither mild or severe disease infection causes death. Only those "critical" cases, mostly elderly, who have co-morbitity of cardiovascular disease, diabetes, chronic respiratory disease, hypertension, and cancer (in decreasing importance) have the chance of dying. Among that reported group who've gotten the disease it's a 49% mortality rate. I'd add to that tuberculosis, which was the case in Italy, due to high numbers of migrants.

But one really has to dig online to find meaningful statistics which are crowded out by the doom and gloom.

Instead we get pronouncements like this one by Dr. Brian Monahan, who is the attending physician to the U.S. Congress and Supreme Court:
https://www.mediaite.com/news/congressional-doctor-predicts-roughly-one-third-of-u-s-population-will-contract-coronavirus/

"Dr. Brian Monahan, the attending physician of Congress and the U.S. Supreme Court, told Senate administrative office staff that he expects 70 million to 150 million people in the United States, roughly 1/3 of the population, will contract the coronavirus."

So using the death rate in the U.S. of 2%, he is stating that 3,000,000 people will die from the virus in the U.S.!! China has 1.5 billion people, and only 3189 have died from it, while there are currently far fewer new cases.

Monahan's statement is unconscionable, reckless and harmful. At the very least he should be fired. But this is the kind of exaggeration and half-truth that the media continues to try to panic the public with.

[doubledenim]

All this talk about toilet paper :tsk: Anybody ever hear of babies and cloth diapers? I'm sure you got some white rags and bleach around the house somewhere.

[Yoda]

If you're going to continually suggest people are panic-mongering, you should probably address the inherent catch-22 I've been pointing out to you over and over. The failure to provide an answer is getting pretty conspicuous.

And really, let's use some common sense: the idea that medical professionals are saying absurd things which are easily fact-checked with back of the napkin math doesn't even pass the sniff test.

[Citizen Rules]

We've seen a lot of crazy stuff when storms are coming, but nothing like this. The supermarkets shelves are almost completely empty around here. In addition to things like TP, water, and Lysol and Clorox wipes, there's no leafy greens like lettuce, spinach, kale, etc., no raw chicken or beef, no bread, no orange juice, etc.

In addition to all that stuff that wasn't available, Costco had no eggs at all, not even the brown eggs. They had no canned chicken or tuna, no vitamin C and Ester C, and there was a line that went almost the length of the entire store for bottled water. I don't get the hording of bottled water, hell a person can drink tap water, it doesn't contain viruses. I stopped buying veggies unless they're sealed in a bag. When I went shopping a couple of weeks ago, I watched this woman pick up and handle at least 10 different bell peppers before she decided on one. I might as well just licked her hands for all the contact she had with the peppers:rolleyes:

[Yoda]

Better to overreact than to get the virus and die.
But then how would you signal your independent-mindedness and disdain for the media?

[gbgoodies]

I don't get the hording of bottled water, hell a person can drink tap water, it doesn't contain viruses. I stopped buying veggies unless they're sealed in a bag. When I went shopping a couple of weeks ago, I watched this woman pick up and handle at least 10 different bell peppers before she decided on one. I might as well just licked her hands for all the contact she had with the peppers:rolleyes:


We always buy bagged lettuce, but we checked several supermarkets today, and nobody had any in stock. Then we went to a farmer's market that we had never been to before, and they were fully stocked with just about every fruit and vegetable that people wanted, including a lot of bagged salads. And their lines were only about 1 or 2 people per line. They're a little bit more expensive than the supermarkets, but not high enough to be considered price gouging. (Basically the same as buying at a 7-11 or other convenience store.) They even had toilet paper and bottled water in stock, but no sanitary wipes.

[Hey Fredrick]

All this talk about toilet paper :tsk: Anybody ever hear of babies and cloth diapers? I'm sure you got some white rags and bleach around the house somewhere.

That's what I've been saying. Worst case scenario soap, water, a rag and lots of cheese. I grabbed stuff that treats the flu last trip to the store - the Quils, Tylenol, Advil and Korbel. Not that I could have grabbed TP if I wanted to. There hasn't been any for days. Today, all paper products are gone and the canned goods are now taking a hit. Agent K said it best:

https://media.giphy.com/media/M36Ch5F27FYPe/200.gif

[gbgoodies]

I went to pick up my new eyeglasses today, and when we were leaving, the salesman put out his hand to shake hands, and Hubby and I both instinctively just shook hands with him. As soon as we did that, Hubby and I looked at each other with a kind of "uh-oh" look. I wasn't too worried because I knew that we had hand sanitizer in the car, but the salesman must have realized it too because he immediately pulled out a bottle of hand sanitizer and we all used it.

[Citizen Rules]

I went to pick up my new eyeglasses today, and when we were leaving, the salesman put out his hand to shake hands, and Hubby and I both instinctively just shook hands with him. As soon as we did that, Hubby and I looked at each other with a kind of "uh-oh" look. I wasn't too worried because I knew that we had hand sanitizer in the car, but the salesman must have realized it too because he immediately pulled out a bottle of hand sanitizer and we all used it. I seen this the other day, not a bad idea either:
Lawmakers advised to give 'Star Trek' greeting to avoid contact as Hill prepares for coronavirus (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/10/politics/coronavirus-congress-precautions-greeting/index.html)

[gbgoodies]

I seen this the other day, not a bad idea either:
Lawmakers advised to give 'Star Trek' greeting to avoid contact as Hill prepares for coronavirus (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/10/politics/coronavirus-congress-precautions-greeting/index.html)


That's a great idea. Vulcans have always been more advanced than humans. :)

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Live long and prosper.

[Mesmerized]

I've been stocking up on food for some time now, and probably have a month-worth for a sensible person. I'm not sensible. Oh, and I'm ordering food, too. They closed all restaurants, so they turned delivery-only.

Delivery or take out. I ordered Chinese food tonight.

[Mesmerized]

Vulcans have always been more advanced than humans. :)



In a pig's eye.

[Steve Freeling]

So the first death from Coronavirus in Georgia was right here in Cobb County.

[John McClane]

I’ll give ten to one odds that no one’s supermarket is out of sardines. I keep kosher during the apocalypse.

Well, Amtrak just canceled my train to DC.

[Captain Steel]

In a pig's eye.

Well... it looks like you finally got the last word.
:cool:

[Mesmerized]

I don't get the hording of bottled water, hell a person can drink tap water, it doesn't contain viruses. I stopped buying veggies unless they're sealed in a bag. When I went shopping a couple of weeks ago, I watched this woman pick up and handle at least 10 different bell peppers before she decided on one. I might as well just licked her hands for all the contact she had with the peppers:rolleyes:

Would boiling contaminated vegetables kill the virus?

[Mesmerized]

Somber day at the cathedral mass yesterday. Archbishop decreed that the holy water fonts shall remain empty. No communion wafers on the tongue, only by hand. No touching anyone during the peace offering - waving only.

No hand sanitizer, rubbing alcohol or wipes available anywhere. Turns out the Doomsday Preppers knew something after all.


I've been receiving on the tongue most of my life. It felt odd receiving in my hand. I saw the priest, deacon and EM's using hand sanitizer in the sanctuary before distributing Communion.

[NedStark09]

Bird Flu then Swine Flu and Corona. I halfway suspect that people will just be targeted by these types of diseases and illnesses .



I think Corona is nothing more then proof lots of people lungs are weak do to air pollution. I think Corona will pass and we will move on to the next one when it comes. Mankind just may have to except inhanced Flus will come as all diseases has done.


Its not good people die but people die or flu and phemonia every day somewhere. These bigger named killers is just how the population is kept a certain way. Its not a good thing to say.


But God or the Devil has always thin down humanity one way or another. Its not good but maybe just maybe put down the ipod and pick up a real bible. You dont have to go to church just as long as you believe in the father and try to be good people is all he asks.

[Citizen Rules]

Would boiling contaminated vegetables kill the virus?Yes I believe so. In my case I was buying red bell peppers that I was eating fresh.

[Citizen Rules]

In a pig's eye.
Well... it looks like you finally got the last word.
:cool: Star Trek references, ha I get them:p

[Powdered Water]

Our very own meatwadsprite did a covid-19 safety video that's well worth a view.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqXRLwKJz7s

[Yoda]

Cool, the mayor of my town just shared some nonsense, debunked meme about gargling salt water killing the virus. :indifferent:

There's a cost to this skepticism signaling stuff.

[Mesmerized]

I’ll give ten to one odds that no one’s supermarket is out of sardines. I keep kosher during the apocalypse.


I like the sardines they have at the Family Dollar store that are marinated in Louisiana hot sauce.

[Mesmerized]

Cool, the mayor of my town just shared some nonsense, debunked meme about gargling salt water killing the virus. :indifferent:

There's a cost to this skepticism signaling stuff.


Last time I gargled on salt water I almost choked to death. I'll never do that again.

[Mesmerized]

Yes I believe so. In my case I was buying red bell peppers that I was eating fresh.


It's probably best to stick with canned fruits and vegetables until the crisis is over.

[Citizen Rules]

It's probably best to stick with canned fruits and vegetables until the crisis is over.I figure bananas come with their own wrapper! That reminds me I have a bunch of bananas, best be eating them before they go bad.

[Mesmerized]

I figure bananas come with their own wrapper! That reminds me I have a bunch of bananas, best be eating them before they go bad.


I wouldn't even eat bananas. The virus could possibly penetrate the skin. I would at least wash them with hot soapy water before peeling them.

[Citizen Rules]

I wouldn't even eat bananas. The virus could possibly penetrate the skin. I would at least wash them with hot soapy water before peeling them.You're joking? It's hard to tell on the internet when someone is joking or being serious? But based on your other post in this thread, I think that's a sarcastic joke?

[Mesmerized]

You're joking? It's hard to tell on the internet when someone is joking or being serious? But based on your other post in this thread, I think that's a sarcastic joke?

Not joking. Just being cautious with the unknown.

[NedStark09]

Went to Store Were out of Bread and Eggs at the store but had all Dairy products and pork meat. I had to get bread at a go mart gas station. Walmart had no jelly or peanut butter either but had plenty Dr Pepper.

[John-Connor]

Dutch government announced that all hospitality would close after 6 PM. This is the line for a coffee shop (where weed can be purchased).
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[ynwtf]

Most things were normal at local Publix grocery, but all TP/paper towels were gone as well as all chicken and ground beef. There were still some beef products like roasts and various cuts. Not much pork except the more expensive prepackaged sliced hams. Fruit seems untouched and people were grabbing celery and carrots a lot. Tomatoes were nearly wiped out. Oddly, there's plenty of water, OJ, and Gatorade which I figured would have been first to go if were all anticipating flu-like symptoms.

Panic doesn't lend itself to rational thinking i guess. I was able to get my two bottles of red wine. That plus my freezer stock of gin and vodka, I think I'll be good.

:D

[Mesmerized]

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[WrinkledMind]

Cool, the mayor of my town just shared some nonsense, debunked meme about gargling salt water killing the virus. :indifferent:

There's a cost to this skepticism signaling stuff.

That only works for sore throat and tonsil stones.

It's incredibly annoying and highly irresponsible when people in important positions do this.

We have our share of ginormous idiots too. Just wanna slap these idiots.

[Mesmerized]

That does it. Irish bars in Boston are closing. The world must be coming to an end.

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[NedStark09]

I discovered a couple years ago the best antibiotic body soap and its called peppermint pure castile soap. I have irritated skin allot but if wash with this stuff it clean and gets rid of the red areas and I wash my hands with it. It stings a little but works great. I went out and didnt where a mask. I know some will say your asking for death. Well by now if i didnt get bird of swine flu or any cold since i was 10 years old. If God decides to kill me by a Flu bug then a paper mask aint likely gonna work.

[NedStark09]

That does it. Irish bars in Boston are closing. The world must be coming to an end.

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=61415
Well I think we will look back on 2020 as the year in the USA where we most overreacted to an illness. Over 16,000 people died in the USA of the flu in 2019 and no one called anything.



People died in 9-11 but nothing was fully canceled. I know they are playing it safe but I wonder if the fear is more the news does nothing else but talk about death and worst cases that can happen.

[Citizen Rules]

Italy just announced that in the last 24 hours there were 3500 new coronavirus cases and 368 deaths...Do you guys still think this is just a joke?

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-italy-cases-20200315-aznwviabwnfwtkhgeql2kuj3gy-story.html

[Wyldesyde19]

That does it. Irish bars in Boston are closing. The world must be coming to an end.

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Well I think we will look back on 2020 as the year in the USA where we most overreacted to an illness. Over 16,000 people died in the USA of the flu in 2019 and no one called anything.



People died in 9-11 but nothing was fully canceled. I know they are playing it safe but I wonder if the fear is more the news does nothing else but talk about death and worst cases that can happen.
The flu deaths were spread out over time. Corbin-19 has claimed this amount in a matter of months.
Seriously, do people not understand the purpose of precautionary measures?

[John-Connor]

Def. no joke, Trumps wants to buy (large sums of money have been thrown) a german pharmaceutical company that's close to developing a vaccine.

[Chypmunk]

The flu deaths were spread out over time. Corbin-19 has claimed this amount in a matter of months.
Seriously, do people not understand the purpose of precautionary measures?
Not wishing to detract from the seriousness of the quote at all (as I agree with the sentiment) but I never realised the outgoing British Labour leader was that virulent :eek: ;)

(yeah, I know it's a simple typo and his surname really is spelled with a 'y' and not an 'i' anyway but the thought tickled me)

[Mesmerized]

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[Wyldesyde19]

The flu deaths were spread out over time. Corbin-19 has claimed this amount in a matter of months.
Seriously, do people not understand the purpose of precautionary measures?
Not wishing to detract from the seriousness of the quote at all (as I agree with the sentiment) but I never realised the outgoing British Labour leader was that virulent :eek: ;)

(yeah, I know it's a simple typo and his surname really is spelled with a 'y' and not an 'i' anyway but the thought tickled me)
Auto correct got me again 😑
I saw it and was like, oh well 🤷

[Austruck]

Ohio shuts down all bars and restaurants as of tonight. Two casinos in Pa. have closed so far (we have a total of something like 16 or 17).

[Citizen Rules]

What's going to happen with grocery stores? I mean they can't very easily close them and yet they're really crowded with people trying to buy food.

And what about retail stores like J.C Penney that was already on the verge of failing. I can't see them generating much business in the short term. The economy is going to be really taking a hit.

[Austruck]

Two other casinos here in western Pa. are closing their buffets and postponing events right now. Naturally, they're hanging on to their table games and slots. <roll eyes>

Grocery stores are modifying their hours here (closing overnight to sanitize and restock). Supply chains still exist -- people just have to take a breath and space out their buying back to normal rates. We'll see how long that takes.

[neiba]

Well I think we will look back on 2020 as the year in the USA where we most overreacted to an illness. Over 16,000 people died in the USA of the flu in 2019 and no one called anything.



People died in 9-11 but nothing was fully canceled. I know they are playing it safe but I wonder if the fear is more the news does nothing else but talk about death and worst cases that can happen.

The mortality rate of the flu is 0,1%, the COVID-19 is somewhere between 2-4, or near to 10% in Italy because it simply destroyed the health system. It's not the same thing. Doctors in Italy are choosing who they can help and who has to die.

[Mesmerized]

Ohio shuts down all bars and restaurants as of tonight. Two casinos in Pa. have closed so far (we have a total of something like 16 or 17).

Bartending was thought to be an occupation with a secure future. In good times and bad times people would still need a drink. The times they are a changin.

[Austruck]

Other local casinos are starting to close restaurants and bars on their properties and most all have cancelled concerts and events. But boy, they are hesitant about closing down those tables and slots!

[MonnoM]

This has been a real eye opener. People fighting each other over toilet paper, buying out items just to sell them for double the price. Chaos everywhere. I get the fear, but Jesus Christ, show some level of civility. Have we learned nothing from all those post-apocalyptic films? Here I thought it would take a zombie outbreak or an Alien invasion to witness the end of civilization. To be honest, the reaction to the virus is far more terrifying than the virus itself.

[NedStark09]

This has been a real eye opener. People fighting each other over toilet paper, buying out items just to sell them for double the price. Chaos everywhere. I get the fear, but Jesus Christ, show some level of civility. Have we learned nothing from all those post-apocalyptic films? Here I thought it would take a zombie outbreak or an Alien invasion to witness the end of civilization. To be honest, the reaction to the virus is far more terrifying than the virus itself.
Here here this statement is what I think. And applaud you saying it for the record.



I do realize 190,000 world wide have been effected. But only 6,000 people died. Thats a small number of deaths considering Bird and Swine Flu Killed more people.


I am not making fun and not sad by people dying but thats kinda a small number. If all 190,000 cases died then could say its an epidemic. But people who have it do live.


50 people died in all of the USA. But 50 People is nothing for people to die in the streets of LA or New York In a Year. But no one called off schools of stopped movies. After 9-11 there were still football games.

[NedStark09]

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An here is the biggest scam in human history. Trump cares nothing about people. This allows him to collect tax free money and there should already be funds for outbreaks in the gov budget anyways. All this safety **** is trump making a play for more power.

[Mesmerized]

Have we learned nothing from all those post-apocalyptic films?


Yes. Always shoot a zombie in the head. It's the only way to kill them.

[Wyldesyde19]

This has been a real eye opener. People fighting each other over toilet paper, buying out items just to sell them for double the price. Chaos everywhere. I get the fear, but Jesus Christ, show some level of civility. Have we learned nothing from all those post-apocalyptic films? Here I thought it would take a zombie outbreak or an Alien invasion to witness the end of civilization. To be honest, the reaction to the virus is far more terrifying than the virus itself.
Here here this statement is what I think. And applaud you saying it for the record.



I do realize 190,000 world wide have been effected. But only 6,000 people died. Thats a small number of deaths considering Bird and Swine Flu Killed more people.


I am not making fun and not sad by people dying but thats kinda a small number. If all 190,000 cases died then could say its an epidemic. But people who have it do live.


50 people died in all of the USA. But 50 People is nothing for people to die in the streets of LA or New York In a Year. But no one called off schools of stopped movies. After 9-11 there were still football games.
Besides being a false equivalence, it is also a false statement. the NFL canceled the games the weekend after 9/11, as did college football. Those games were later rescheduled to the end of the season.
Again, precautions were taken to help prevent further spread of the previous viruses you mentioned.
You know, like what we’re doing now.
If no precautions were taken, it would get worse. But then people will complain that we “didn’t take enough precautions”.
I seriously do not fathom why people are having a hard time grasping this.

[NedStark09]

We did not do this during Swine Flu. There were schools and there was a Wrestlemania. Your starting to see more like dictator would be like if Trump got more power or any president.

[NedStark09]

Yes. Always shoot a zombie in the head. It's the only way to kill them.
How do we know unless there really were zombies or infected people. Its like Garlic and a Wooden Steak. The Movies and Tv say these things work. But how they know unless killed a Vampire at 11 O'clock news

[Captain Steel]

How do we know unless there really were zombies or infected people. Its like Garlic and a Wooden Steak. The Movies and Tv say these things work. But how they know unless killed a Vampire at 11 O'clock news

In a similar idea - it's the same for all the "rules" surrounding ghosts.
Most of what we think we know came from the conjurerers and "spiritualists" of the late 19th century - and they were all con-men (and women) seeking to profit off other's grief.

[NedStark09]

Well In Since A Werewolf is just an inhanced beast. Any Bullet should kill him. I mean back when those books were written there was no 44 magnum pistols. We are talking pellet balls at best. I say a loaded M-16 would do it .

[Citizen Rules]

Well In Since A Werewolf is just an inhanced beast. Any Bullet should kill him. I mean back when those books were written there was no 44 magnum pistols. We are talking pellet balls at best. I say a loaded M-16 would do it .Ned...it's best if you don't think about this, I'm just saying.

[Wyldesyde19]

We did not do this during Swine Flu. There were schools and there was a Wrestlemania. Your starting to see more like dictator would be like if Trump got more power or any president.
Canceling public events is a far cry from abuse of power. Not sure how you equate the two.

It has become more widespread than SARS and MERS. More people are getting infected. But less of those people who are getting infected are actually dying from it. The elderly and those who have a already compromised immune system are most at risk.
The coronavirus outbreak is more severe than the 2009 outbreak of H1N1, or what we know as the swine flu. The flu you have referenced the most. That illness infected between 700 million and 1.4 billion people worldwide but only had a mortality rate of 0.02%.
Apparently the quarantine is working in China, if reports are to be believed, as the cases seem to be tapering off.

[Captain Steel]

Well In Since A Werewolf is just an inhanced beast. Any Bullet should kill him. I mean back when those books were written there was no 44 magnum pistols. We are talking pellet balls at best. I say a loaded M-16 would do it .

What happens if a vampire bites a werewolf - does it turn into a vampwolf? Or vice versa: a werewolf bites a vampire - does it become a werepire?

What if you took the body parts of a vampwolf and a werepire and sewed them altogether, animated the new patchwork with electricity and brought it to life? What would that be?

[Wyldesyde19]

Well In Since A Werewolf is just an inhanced beast. Any Bullet should kill him. I mean back when those books were written there was no 44 magnum pistols. We are talking pellet balls at best. I say a loaded M-16 would do it .

What happens if a vampire bites a werewolf - does it turn into a vampwolf? Or vice versa: a werewolf bites a vampire - does it become a werepire?

What if you took the body parts of a vampwolf and a werepire and sewed them altogether, animated the new patchwork with electricity and brought it to life? What would that be?
See the Underworld series to find the answer to that question 😏

[Mesmerized]

What happens if a vampire bites a werewolf - does it turn into a vampwolf? Or vice versa: a werewolf bites a vampire - does it become a werepire?

What if you took the body parts of a vampwolf and a werepire and sewed them altogether, animated the new patchwork with electricity and brought it to life? What would that be?


Extraordinary.

[ynwtf]

Werebats.
Obviously.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Both of my kids have coughs and runny noses. Any other time I'd think it's nothing. It probably is nothing, but paranoia can get to ya.





But they are also kids....so I feel like they are like this all the time.

[John McClane]

They could be carriers.

Y’all won’t believe the number of old people I saw out at one of our local malls. I gave them all a wide berth. The older they looked the further away I got.

[The Rodent]

What happens if a vampire bites a werewolf - does it turn into a vampwolf? Or vice versa: a werewolf bites a vampire - does it become a werepire?

What if you took the body parts of a vampwolf and a werepire and sewed them altogether, animated the new patchwork with electricity and brought it to life? What would that be?




Vampwolfstein.

[Chypmunk]

Vampwolfstein.
Ah, if only they lived in castles :)

[NedStark09]

Canceling public events is a far cry from abuse of power. Not sure how you equate the two.

It has become more widespread than SARS and MERS. More people are getting infected. But less of those people who are getting infected are actually dying from it. The elderly and those who have a already compromised immune system are most at risk.
The coronavirus outbreak is more severe than the 2009 outbreak of H1N1, or what we know as the swine flu. The flu you have referenced the most. That illness infected between 700 million and 1.4 billion people worldwide but only had a mortality rate of 0.02%.
Apparently the quarantine is working in China, if reports are to be believed, as the cases seem to be tapering off.
Well you and I no but Trump is entirely different thing. he is cold as a lizard in a snow storm. he dont give two cents about anyone but what this does for him

[NedStark09]

They could be carriers.

Y’all won’t believe the number of old people I saw out at one of our local malls. I gave them all a wide berth. The older they looked the further away I got.
I doubt real John McClane be afraid of a Virus. He'd blow it up and not read it there rights

[NedStark09]

Im Up for talking about anything but the Virus even in a thread about it.

[ironpony]

Here is what I don't get about people's views on it. Every business is shutting down in my city where I live because of the virus. I lost my current job, and the whole economy is collapsing in my city. Saskatoon, Canada. But here is what I do understand, everyone thinks this virus is going to blow over in a few months. Why do they think that? It's just going to spread more and more and get worse.

Everyone thinks this is a really terrible pandemic, and maybe it is... But if it is, then why do people think that something so terrible, is just going to fix itself in a few months?

[NedStark09]

Here is what I don't get about people's views on it. Every business is shutting down in my city where I live because of the virus. I lost my current job, and the whole economy is collapsing in my city. Saskatoon, Canada. But here is what I do understand, everyone thinks this virus is going to blow over in a few months. Why do they think that? It's just going to spread more and more and get worse.

Everyone thinks this is a really terrible pandemic, and maybe it is... But if it is, then why do people think that something so terrible, is just going to fix itself in a few months?


Well I personally think too much panic was inject by what happened in the death by way of watching other countries and now its here.


50 people have died if we stop doing normal things we all will live. I personally think all this is arresting people from living a good life. You take away Movies shows and sports.


But truck drivers have to do there jobs or we all starv to death. I think if gonna die you gonna. People can do things to prevent getting it. 2 Months likely wont end it but I also think forcing everyone to wait to die is a bad idea.


Basketball Players and All Pro sports stopped but there millionare's. What is happening is people they need to do stuff so country dont shut down should not be only people exposed. people cannot stay home waiting to die.


Im just an average person. I am no doctor or scientist. I think forcing people to stay at home is denying people to enjoy life if its some peoples end.

[ironpony]

Well I personally think too much panic was inject by what happened in the death by way of watching other countries and now its here.


50 people have died if we stop doing normal things we all will live. I personally think all this is arresting people from living a good life. You take away Movies shows and sports.


But truck drivers have to do there jobs or we all starv to death. I think if gonna die you gonna. People can do things to prevent getting it. 2 Months likely wont end it but I also think forcing everyone to wait to die is a bad idea.


Basketball Players and All Pro sports stopped but there millionare's. What is happening is people they need to do stuff so country dont shut down should not be only people exposed. people cannot stay home waiting to die.


Im just an average person. I am no doctor or scientist. I think forcing people to stay at home is denying people to enjoy life if its some peoples end.

When you say 2 months it likely won't end are you saying that society has projected this will all be over in two months?

[NedStark09]

Well Im basing on by everyone postponing things a couple months and what the president seems to want people to believe. By Him doing this national emergency and shutting things down and closing schools. he is saying one thing but actions say he has no idea how long it will be.

[NedStark09]

They are assuming Corona has some type of course like Swine and Bird Flu did and whats not being said people have gotten Corona and lived and others not. Like any this type of illness before.

[ironpony]

But why does everyone else believe it will be over in a couple of months? I'm not talking about the US, I mean other countries like where I live. Everyone thinks this going to blow over in a few months. Why?

[JoaoRodrigues]

Because it's logical. Because of statistics. Because they know.

[CaptainT]

But why does everyone else believe it will be over in a couple of months? I'm not talking about the US, I mean other countries like where I live. Everyone thinks this going to blow over in a few months. Why?
I think the reason for this is the progression of the virus in China. If the numbers that we are getting right now are correct, the spread of the virus in China has pretty much stopped. Of course, they still have to be very careful and life can't just go back to normal right now, because there is a good chance that the virus will start spreading again in that case, but I believe that if they're careful the virus might be pretty much over for them in not more than a month from now.

This is a graph of the number of active cases in China, so that's the number of people who have the virus not counting people that have already died from it or have already recovered from it
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=61429&stc=1&d=1584345225


The lockdown in China happened on the 23rd of January, so that's less than 2 months ago. I think what this teaches is that if appropriate measures are taken the virus can and will be under control relatively soon (~2 months).
The problem might be though, that I don't know of any "western" countries that have taken measures that go as far as those in China, besides Italy, for whom these came way too late. I think that there are a few countries that need to make very big steps very soon or they will likely follow the path of Italy, and in that case, I don't think the virus will be gone in 2 months for them.

[ironpony]

Well if the virus has pretty much stopped now, then why is it where I live in Canda, all these businesses and schools just started closing last week and several people including me, just lost our jobs this week now? Why throw the Canadian economy under the bus now, if the virus is pretty much over?

[CaptainT]

Well if the virus has pretty much stopped now, then why is it where I live in Canda, all these businesses and schools just started closing last week and several people including me, just lost our jobs this week now? Why throw the Canadian economy under the bus now, if the virus is pretty much over?

It looked like you were asking a sincere question earlier so I tried to give a detailed answer but now I'm starting to feel like you just want to hear things that agree with what you believe. I'll try once more to answer your question in detail, but if you're again just going to take half a sentence from my post out of context and take that as my conclusion I'll stop trying.

Well if the virus has pretty much stopped now
I think the reason for this is the progression of the virus in China. If the numbers that we are getting right now are correct, the spread of the virus in China has pretty much stopped.

The fact that China has managed to slow down the spread of the virus by taking very big measures doesn't mean that the virus has stopped everywhere else in the world. In Canada, just like in most other parts of the world, the virus has only just begun spreading and will likely just get worse.

then why is it where I live in Canda, all these businesses and schools just started closing last week and several people including me, just lost our jobs this week now?

Because measures like that and maybe even much bigger measures are necessary to stop the virus. The fact that the spread of the virus stopped in China is because of the lockdown and even after that, it took ~2 months to stop the spread of the virus. Like I said in my previous post, I think that most western countries are still taking too little steps to prevent the situation in their country from going towards the situation in Italy and measures like these are the only way to go right now.

Of course, that doesn't take away from the enormous impact that these measures have on economies worldwide and the impact that they might cause on the daily lives of people that have done nothing wrong and suddenly lose their job, but I can assure you that almost nobody in Italy would choose the current situation over one where they lost their job but the virus spread was stopped in a much earlier stage. Sometimes bad things are necessary to prevent even worse things.

[ironpony]

Well the economy cannot shut down for too long though cause that is important too though. I mean one could argue that the economy is actually more important than stopping the spread of a disease, so I think it comes down to what are you going to pick? Cause you cannot try to have it both ways of course.

[FromBeyond]

I think forcing people to stay at home is denying people to enjoy life if its some peoples end.

Are you saying people with coronavirus should be allowed to roam freely so that they can enjoy the end of their lives and that all the people they infect should also be allowed to roam freely to enjoy their lives and so on and so forth? I'm honestly trying to understand what your saying..

At one time there was only 50 deaths in China and Italy... enjoy the ball game.

[JoaoRodrigues]

I won't even question that. Enjoying life and staying home is contradictory? Damn.

[WrinkledMind]

ironpony

It's not going to be over in two months. If anything it might peak in two months or a month. The disease will remain amongst us this year. The severity of it might reduce.

There will be waves. Namely three. That is the pattern followed by most diseases of this magnitude. And the second wave, which is when it will peak, will be the most brutal.

Then there is the issue of reinfection and mutation. Both bad, though individuals who get reinfected might develop some kind of immunity till then. So, they would most probably suffer less. Again this is just
a conjecture. Things could very well get worse.

Or we could find a proper cure, and not rely on combination of drugs - which is how it is currently being handled.

The issue is the rapid pace at which this is spreading. And if we look at the serious cases in France and Holland, then a startling fact is emerging that this is no longer dangerous for older folks - since 50% of all serious cases in France and Holland are under 60.

The only way to combat this is social distancing.

As for the economy. It is screwed anyways you look at it. The key is to make sure that we save enough people now.

[chawhee]

We should definitely be taking stronger measures in the US. Officials at the state and local level are starting to take their own action. I'm curious where they keep pulling these numbers as far as banning gatherings of more than "250" people or "50" people....shouldn't it be more along the line of "10" people?

[Chypmunk]

Austria has banned gatherings of more than 5 people ...... which is a bit tough if you just happen to have more than 3 children imo :D

[neiba]

But why does everyone else believe it will be over in a couple of months? I'm not talking about the US, I mean other countries like where I live. Everyone thinks this going to blow over in a few months. Why?

mainly because in 2 months it's almost summer and the virus weakens with hot weather... it will probably come back in november...

[neiba]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-vaccine-trump-us-cases-germany-carevac-a9403646.html

This is just ridiculous! The fuc*ing prick deserves the virus! Idiot!

[Yoda]

https://twitter.com/hblodget/status/1239532935507779584
It's not about stopping the spread, not sure that can be done: it's about spreading out the burden on the health care system, which can't accommodate a rush of a couple million people who need beds and/or respirators.

Really important couple of weeks here. Keep safe, keep your distance. It's lame and we'll all go a little stir crazy but it'll help. Just for a bit.

[Yoda]

But why does everyone else believe it will be over in a couple of months? I'm not talking about the US, I mean other countries like where I live. Everyone thinks this going to blow over in a few months. Why?
Because after awhile it runs out of people to infect.

[neiba]

https://twitter.com/hblodget/status/1239532935507779584
It's not about stopping the spread, not sure that can be done: it's about spreading out the burden on the health care system, which can't accommodate a rush of a couple million people who need beds and/or respirators.

Really important couple of weeks here. Keep safe, keep your distance. It's lame and we'll all go a little stir crazy but it'll help. Just for a bit.

Italy became a sad warning for the rest of the world... And to think that Switzerland that's right on the border, still didn't take heavy measures against it. The schools were closed only last friday and you see people in the street like nothing was happening...

[Yoda]

Yep, we have an opportunity to learn from others here. Granted, the U.S. is different in plenty of ways. More people, but also more spread out. But if we make even a modest effort for a week or two here it'll really help down the line.

I don't like it, especially during spring when we're all so anxious to start going outside and doing things in public a lot again, but it's a small price to pay. Just a couple of weeks! Bust out the board games, play video games, heck, talk about movies on an internet forum, even, if you're amenable to that.

[neiba]

Yep, we have an opportunity to learn from others here. Granted, the U.S. is different in plenty of ways. More people, but also more spread out. But if we make even a modest effort for a week or two here it'll really help down the line.

I don't like it, especially during spring when we're all so anxious to start going outside and doing things in public a lot again, but it's a small price to pay. Just a couple of weeks! Bust out the board games, play video games, heck, talk about movies on an internet forum, even, if you're amenable to that.

I came back to Portugal last Friday, cause I lived in a pretty affected area in France, I'm voluntarily on quarantine right now, in my room in my parents place. I don't even have contact with them. It sucks, especially cause I had dozens of concerts cancelled, some of them really important, but we have to find a way to stop this.
I'm using this time to practice, study, learn new stuff, watch movies, exercise... We have internet at the tip of our fingers, it's time we value it and be original!

[neiba]

Learn a new language even!

[Yoda]

Very true. I mean, how much of our day were we already thinking about getting on the Internet or wanting to just kill time with it? Here's your chance. Do some planks, catch up on a watch list, read a bit, get through whatever digital or #content backlog you've been thinking about, if you can. It's not a good thing, but it can be made into a better one.

We're lucky we have so many options when isolated.

[Chypmunk]

Funny you should mention it but I nailed some planks yesterday. I'd been meaning to fix that bit of floor for ages and this self-isolation gave me the perfect opportunity.

[JoaoRodrigues]

neiba by wednesday they close the country.

[ynwtf]

Funny you should mention it but I nailed some planks yesterday. I'd been meaning to fix that bit of floor for ages and this self-isolation gave me the perfect opportunity.

Not sure of the social standards where ur from, but calling the ladies here "planks" might get a mug in the face. And I'm not really sure how that's at all preventative. I guess when in Rome...?


:D

[Yoda]

Yuk yuk.

But seriously there are a lot of simple exercises that just involve body positioning and your own body weight that are really helpful now. It'll really help you sleep better, relieve stress, reduce how cooped up you feel, even if it's nothing you'd normally do.

[ynwtf]

On a serious note, schools have closed here. A lot of parents got a text yesterday at 3pm as notice. That kind of sucks. I'm confused by some of these decisions. Don't get me wrong. I do see the logic, but I now have a growing concern that families who cannot afford child care and must choose to leave their kids alone at home or take off from work. Either path is expensive, especially if any overlaying factors come into play such as additional employer shutdowns or pay cuts for those on hourly or tips that are likely already at a breaking point what with lower turnouts in customers.

My confusion comes at the financial chain reaction that is about to play out. We seem to be be slightly more preemptive with slowing the spread of the virus. Aside from the Fed dropping rates (which probably won't affect a lot in the grand scheme of themes other than trying to soften stock falls, but that it hasn't really helped yet either), I'm not seeing or hearing much in the preparation for a working class that may soon find itself out of work. Or even a class =\

People here seem to be getting more nervous about the panic than the virus itself. It's freaky to watch. Someone posted feeling an "out of body experience" seeing how people are acting with regards to toilet paper and such. Yeah, I kind of agree!

[Chypmunk]

Is toilet paper not generally associated with 'out of body' experiences anyway???

[gandalf26]

The UK is being slow to do anything. Shutdown seems inevitable, Ireland has shut schools and some businesses, seems only a matter of time before England/Scotland follow suit.

[JoaoRodrigues]

Trump isn't worried about the UK, just Europe. They must be safe, the orange guy is never wrong.

[Yoda]

A lot of local school districts initially carved out times students can come to pick up any state-sponsored meals they may have been eligible for. Worth checking if that's true where you are (or still true where you are) for anyone who has kids who relied on that.

There've been a lot of encouraging common sense workarounds and exceptions for a lot of these things. It's definitely going to put some people in some tough/tight spots, but it's been heartening to see that a lot of consideration has been given to what kids and parents will do, and allowances have been made when necessary. Worth looking into it.

[Mesmerized]

Current number of U.S. cases

Coronavirus Cases: 3,808

Deaths: 70

Recovered: 73

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

[Yoda]

That number's gonna jump, big time. Important not to panic when that happens, because in a lot of cases, it won't be new infections: it'll just be existing ones that we now know about, because we'll be testing more. It's also important to keep in mind the counterfactual of how high they would be if not for social distancing measures.

In other words: don't flip out when it goes way up. It's going to. It's expected. Even if the stuff we're doing is working well, it's still going to go way up, and in some cases it's just us properly documenting the cases out there, which right now are mostly undetected.

[Chypmunk]

Trump isn't worried about the UK, just Europe. They must be safe, the orange guy is never wrong.
You do know flights from Ireland and the UK to the US will also now be subject to the same restrictions as of midnight tonight (EDT)?

[ynwtf]

A lot of local school districts initially carved out times students can come to pick up any state-sponsored meals they may have been eligible for. Worth checking if that's true where you are (or still true where you are) for anyone who has kids who relied on that.

OK, that's great. I don't have kids so I'm only in the loop for as much as my parenting friends explain to me. I did not know that. My guess is that probably isn't the case here as my parent friends are worried about that specifically. There are a lot of kids here that probably get most of their food from school programs.

I am glad to hear some areas are being considerate of that.

[Yoda]

Yeah, it's been very encouraging. That might change, of course, who knows, but I saw a lot of that stuff. And similar common sense exceptions like "close all public stores except grocery stores and pharmacies." So far it's been a very sensible response with all the obvious exceptions being made that you'd hope would be made.

[ynwtf]

That gives me hope then. More announcements like that, to the community here, would go a long way to keeping the calm. Well, keeping social unrest in general down.

[donniedarko]

An here is the biggest scam in human history. Trump cares nothing about people. This allows him to collect tax free money and there should already be funds for outbreaks in the gov budget anyways. All this safety **** is trump making a play for more power.

I'm sure Trump is THRILLED about the dow dropping 7 points today

[donniedarko]

Glad UK is finally on US travel list, whole country been treating it like a joke. Going to get hit harder than Italy

Sucks because this could've been preventable in the US as well, don't know why it took almost 1000 cases for Trump to assemble a task force, we should've globally been taking this seriously when it was still local to Wuhan

[Yoda]

It'll come back. Don't even look at your investments for a few weeks.

[John McClane]

It's so hard not to look at it when I have it added to my banking dashboard. Every time I check my checking (hehe) I get a glimpse of it. But I'm young.

[ironpony]

But the fact that people think it's going to go away because it will summer be summer soon is unrealistic though, isn't? The regular flus and colds are still around and haven't died out from the world yet. HIV has never been killed off because it was summer time, and it's still around. So what makes the corona virus so inferior that it's going to die soon?

[Captain Steel]

Very true. I mean, how much of our day were we already thinking about getting on the Internet or wanting to just kill time with it? Here's your chance. Do some planks, catch up on a watch list, read a bit, get through whatever digital or #content backlog you've been thinking about, if you can. It's not a good thing, but it can be made into a better one.

We're lucky we have so many options when isolated.

Do some planks?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5c/43/9a/5c439a1a7a88f25f71f73e2fa222236f.jpg

[Citizen Rules]

The governor of Washington state where I live ordered all restaurants and bars closed yesterday, except for take out (and I image drive-through would be open). I wonder if all retail stores except pharmacy and grocery will be closed next? That's what was done in parts of Italy, so I could see that happening in my state.

In the last few days I've went from concern, to anxiousness, to real worry. I never thought I see so much of civilization shut down. I'm just glad for the opportunity to have the internet and MoFo for some much needed diversion.

[John McClane]

I went out yesterday and bought a Nintendo Switch so I'd be ready if they declare martial law.

And you won't believe how many old people I saw out there walking around the mall. I must say that it's gotta be pretty nice to be comfortable with your feebleness that you're willing to risk a dangerous virus just so you can get your steps in.

My dad said that CA governor ordered everyone over 65 to stay home, but he still went to work. He's in the same boat as me. No choice in the matter. We both HAVE to go to work. I wish they'd just go ahead and close everything down but gas stations and pharmacies.

[Yoda]

But the fact that people think it's going to go away because it will summer be summer soon is unrealistic though, isn't? The regular flus and colds are still around and haven't died out from the world yet. HIV has never been killed off because it was summer time, and it's still around. So what makes the corona virus so inferior that it's going to die soon?
You asked when it will be "over." I'm pretty sure nobody took that to mean "when will this virus be eradicated forever?" because that's not how this works, for the reasons you just noted. They took it, quite reasonably, to mean "when will the crisis peak?" or "when will things start to get back to normal?"

You'll have to phrase things more precisely, I'm afraid, assuming your goal is actually to have your questions answered, which is a premise I'm finding it a bit harder to believe with each passing day.

And honestly, even if you did mean to ask something as strange as the above, and people did not realize that, it still should have been obvious from the responses how people were taking the question. The natural thing to do there is to recognize the miscommunication, explain it, and clarify what you meant. What you definitely shouldn't do is something like the above, where you never note precisely what you mean, and instead phrase your response as a disagreement or contradiction. That's a waste of everyone's time.

Taking the time to ask the right questions, and carefully consider answers before disagreeing with them, would go a long way here. When it's done in a thread asking about some perceived plot hole, it can be a little grating, but is mostly harmless. On this topic information and clarity are actually important, though, so you should adjust your threshold for this stuff accordingly. And hopefully those habits will be calibrated better going forward on less important topics, too.

[Chypmunk]

Do some planks?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5c/43/9a/5c439a1a7a88f25f71f73e2fa222236f.jpg
Awwwwww bless, that person nearest the camera simply couldn't bear to be parted from their plastic chicken so brought it with them <3

"Either the chicken joins in or I'm not playing!"

[NedStark09]

The governor of Washington state where I live ordered all restaurants and bars closed yesterday, except for take out (and I image drive-through would be open). I wonder if all retail stores except pharmacy and grocery will be closed next? That's what was done in parts of Italy, so I could see that happening in my state.

In the last few days I've went from concern, to anxiousness, to real worry. I never thought I see so much of civilization shut down. I'm just glad for the opportunity to have the internet and MoFo for some much needed diversion.
I doubt walmart and foodstore can close because the state of washington would have no food circulation.


Im also certain Trump and these Gov and so on can only call for schools and lots of things to be shut down for so long a time. Teachers Bus Drivers no working will start effecting the economy and places where people work at sport venues and so on.


But All workers cant just stay home. There has to be cops there has to be fire persons. The Mail cant stop. Truck drivers and some people have to work fr the State and National Gov because of pensions. Bars are easy to close there just be more drinking were ever.


Also sad to think on it the thousands of homeless people arent even a factor. Cause those people can have this but nothing can be done. People with insurance and can be treated will get top priority.

[NedStark09]

Glad UK is finally on US travel list, whole country been treating it like a joke. Going to get hit harder than Italy

Sucks because this could've been preventable in the US as well, don't know why it took almost 1000 cases for Trump to assemble a task force, we should've globally been taking this seriously when it was still local to Wuhan
Im Not saying the Virus is a scam. I am saying that Trump pretending he care about people dying and getting infected is the scam.

[Citizen Rules]

Im Not saying the Virus is a scam. I am saying that Trump pretending he care about people dying and getting infected is the scam.I'm no fan of Trumps, but it's probably best to keep political broadsides out of the thread. Though direct comments about the Trump administrations actions on the CV pandemic would be appropriate IMO.

[NedStark09]

Ok I wont mention Trump Again but my opinion is this country should been helping other's beat it before it got so bad. I think all this now is too late response to it.

[Citizen Rules]

Ok I wont mention Trump Again but my opinion is this country should been helping other's beat it before it got so bad. I think all this now is too late response to it.I didn't mean just you personally, I meant in general we all should try and avoid over politicizing this pandemic on this thread.

[donniedarko]

Think this is going to be much more than a 2 week disruption Yoda

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/coronavirus/all-denver-restaurants-bars-to-stop-dine-in-options-beginning-tuesday-through-may-11

[Stirchley]

Why the toilet paper shortage? Has this ever happened before with say people stocking up for an expected hurricane?

According to The NY Times & this makes total sense, when people see other people buying whatever in bulk they immediately think they should buy it too.

[Yoda]

Yeah, sure seems like it (Re: two weeks). Of course, if I were in that position I think I'd plan to be out a couple of months, and hey, if you can reopen early, great. But I've been operating on the assumption that mid-April would be optimistic for most of these places and activities. I'm hoping I can get back into work after a couple of weeks, though. That makes a big difference.

I think the real question is when it peaks. Obviously it'll be months before most things feel "normal" again, but I think once things peak and start re-opening or easing restrictions, even a little, we'll all feel a lot better. Seeing the worst of it, getting on the other side of that, and seeing a little light at the end of the tunnel, would help a lot I'm sure.

[Captain Steel]

Took my car to inspection - I thought the DMV office might be closed, but that the inspection station would be open since it's basically outdoors. Nope - whole thing closed for next 2 weeks! But they are granting a 2 month extention for cars due in March.

Bank was open (only difference there was the Tellers were wearing rubber gloves).
Wendy's was open (looked like both walk-in and drive thru - but I went through the drive-thru).

Good News: the lowest gas price I saw in town was $1.99 / gallon! It broke the $2.00 mark! Can't remember the last time it was that low. Unfortunately, I filled my tank up last week when it was $2.25 - thinking I'd never see it that low again! :)

[Mr Minio]

Stop going out people!

[ynwtf]

Coworker just sent me a skype referencing some breaking news bit that Americans should not gather in groups of more than 10 people. We counted staff and we're at that magic number. I immediately shouted TWO MAN ENTER; ONE MAN LEAVE!!! He looked at me, confused. I then asked him WHO RUN BAH'ter Town!? Still no idea wtf I was going about. I I replied MASTAH BLASTAH RUN BAH'ter TOWN! (complete with emulated echoes from a fictional PA system). I then asked if he was ready for what's coming and told him I'm excited! I just need to put a dwarf on my shoulders and I'm set.

Poor guy has never seen a single Mad Max film.

*EDIT*
Yes, this is how I roll in the work place.

[Captain Steel]

Stop going out people!

But what if there's a whole bunch of beautiful Japanese girls in school uniforms or doing Sailor Moon cosplay standing on the corner and the only way to get a look at them is to leave the house? ;)

[NedStark09]

Yesterday I went to town with a friend of mine and his mom. We only Have a walmart which is big but not a super walmart. A Shop and Save , Doller General Store . A Doller Tree and A Walmart And Sheetz Gas Station and a Go Mart. Oh And a CVS. Thats our options to get Bread and Milk. Well In Walmart and Doller General there was no bread. I stopped at GO Mart as fluke and it had Hostess Bread.. My friends mother asked what kind is it. I said it white or wheat bread and she said well I only get Sunbeam or Wonder Bread. I ask did you need bread. She said yes . I then says its the only bread I have seen in whole town thus far. . She still wouldnt get the bread because of the Brand. When there is no bread and poor like i was as a kid. You get what there is cause all brands have soft loafs.

[Stirchley]

I've been receiving on the tongue most of my life. It felt odd receiving in my hand. I saw the priest, deacon and EM's using hand sanitizer in the sanctuary before distributing Communion.

I always receive by hand. Very very somber mood at Mass yesterday. No clue if we will have any Masses going forward. Was planning to attend the Stations of the Cross on Friday evening, but must check 1st if it is still going forward.

You dont have to go to church just as long as you believe in the father and try to be good people is all he asks.

Sorry, but God wants us to go to church. Reading the Bible is insufficient.

I wouldn't even eat bananas. The virus could possibly penetrate the skin. I would at least wash them with hot soapy water before peeling them.

This makes no sense. Even organic bananas make no sense because nothing can penetrate the skin of a banana.

Well I think we will look back on 2020 as the year in the USA where we most overreacted to an illness.

You’re missing the point. This isn’t only America. This is worldwide. My analogy is this is the world war that our parents & grandparents went through, but that we have never seen before.

Y’all won’t believe the number of old people I saw out at one of our local malls. I gave them all a wide berth. The older they looked the further away I got.

LOL, they probably thought the same thing about you. :)

Everyone thinks this is a really terrible pandemic, and maybe it is... But if it is, then why do people think that something so terrible, is just going to fix itself in a few months?

I don’t believe this. I believe this will last all of this year at least. To paraphrase BTO, we ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.

mainly because in 2 months it's almost summer and the virus weakens with hot weather... it will probably come back in november...

Someone said this to me yesterday. I thought germs were more prevalent in hot weather?

On a serious note, schools have closed here.

DeBlasio in NYC has closed the schools & he predicts they will be closed for the entire school year. So how does this work? A freshman has to be a freshman for 2 years?

[NedStark09]

I don't think its the heat but more so the Humidity in some states to kind burn the germs in the air. Places where I live its doesn't get hot like California or Texas but its gets humid and maybe that's a factor with Corona like a factor with Bird Flu. Or Corona just ends when it runs its course like the rest.

[NedStark09]

But Then again Australia is super hot and its there but they have dry heat as what I call it.

[Stirchley]

⬆️ Australia is where Hanks & his missus are sick with the virus.

[NedStark09]

I always receive by hand. Very very somber mood at Mass yesterday. No clue if we will have any Masses going forward. Was planning to attend the Stations of the Cross on Friday evening, but must check 1st if it is still going forward.



Sorry, but God wants us to go to church. Reading the Bible is insufficient.



This makes no sense. Even organic bananas make no sense because nothing can penetrate the skin of a banana.



You’re missing the point. This isn’t only America. This is worldwide. My analogy is this is the world war that our parents & grandparents went through, but that we have never seen before.



LOL, they probably thought the same thing about you. :)



I don’t believe this. I believe this will last all of this year at least. To paraphrase BTO, we ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.



Someone said this to me yesterday. I thought germs were more prevalent in hot weather?



DeBlasio in NYC has closed the schools & he predicts they will be closed for the entire school year. So how does this work? A freshman has to be a freshman for 2 years?


I didn't know you talked to God to know what he might think about things.


I dont go to church because I find its more about the collection plate where I live then saving anyone's soul.


God is everywhere so i think whats it matter where prey or believe. As Long as you do.

[NedStark09]

⬆️ Australia is where Hanks & his missus are sick with the virus.
Is that where they got it or where they were tested and confirmed

[Stirchley]

I didn't know you talked to God to know what he might think about things.

As a Roman Catholic, I talk to God every day. And of course we know what he thinks about things as it’s all in the Bible. Surely you would know this?

[Captain Steel]

You’re missing the point. This isn’t only America. This is worldwide. My analogy is this is the world war that our parents & grandparents went through, but that we have never seen before.


Interestingly, at the tail end of WWI, in 1918, the world was hit with the "Spanish Flu."

It was called this because most of the reports on the disease came from Spain. This was NOT because it had originated there, but because Spain had remained neutral in the war and so did not have a media blackout like some other countries.

The Spanish Flu killed over 50 million people worldwide. It's estimated that approximately 3% of the world's population at that time was killed! The flu killed far more people by the end of 1918 than were killed in the entirety of World War One.

[Mr Minio]

But what if there's a whole bunch of beautiful Japanese girls in school uniforms or doing Sailor Moon cosplay standing on the corner and the only way to get a look at them is to leave the house? ;) It's 2020. You can look at them on the Internet.

[Captain Steel]

It's 2020. You can look at them on the Internet.

Okay. Please send me some to look at if / when you get the chance! ;)
(Or I'll just keep checking that East Asia thread for updates!)

[Mr Minio]

Please send me some to look at MoFo isn't an appropriate place for such raunchy stuff. Send me a PM. Tell me what's your pleasure and I'll see what I can do. Warning! Kinkiness is as contagious as coronavirus!

[Stirchley]

People very testy today in Stop and Shop, which made me testy too. One woman told me I was cutting in line in a line I didn’t even know existed. :rolleyes:

But then a very nice lady in the parking lot - Amy - gave me a squirt of her hand sanitizer & we ended up chatting so she negated the testy people.

[MovieMad16]

Poor Australia. First the bush fires and now corona. Not their year is it.

[gandalf26]

I'm just glad we have the GOAT in office to lead the world through this crisis.

God bless America.

[MovieMad16]

*Salutes energetically to my laptop screen*

[Mesmerized]

People very testy today in Stop and Shop, which made me testy too. One woman told me I was cutting in line in a line I didn’t even know existed. :rolleyes:

But then a very nice lady in the parking lot - Amy - gave me a squirt of her hand sanitizer & we ended up chatting so she negated the testy people.


I do believe the general fear and anxiety people are feeling right now is probably greater than what the situation calls for. If you look on the bright side of this, realize we're all going to die no matter what. That should cheer you up.

[Mesmerized]

*Salutes energetically to my laptop screen*

Why? Is it a General Electric?

[NedStark09]

As a Roman Catholic, I talk to God every day. And of course we know what he thinks about things as it’s all in the Bible. Surely you would know this?
Im Sorry My Family are Babtists. And Id rather not talk about Religion and Politics anymore about this thing. When comes to church and how I choose to believe. How about it be my own buisness to believe how I want as an american.

[Captain Steel]

Why? Is it a General Electric?

LOL! :p

[Mesmerized]

I always receive by hand. Very very somber mood at Mass yesterday. No clue if we will have any Masses going forward. Was planning to attend the Stations of the Cross on Friday evening, but must check 1st if it is still going forward.


Our bishop has suspended all daily and weekend Masses, liturgies, and devotions and has asked that all churches and chapels including adoration chapels within the diocese be closed. A dispensation from the obligation to attend Sunday Mass granted to the faithful.

I hope they dont shut down the televised Masses on EWTN.

God help us all.

[Miss Vicky]

When comes to church and how I choose to believe. How about it be my own buisness to believe how I want as an american.

Says the guy who basically blamed this whole thing on people who choose to believe in science over religion. :rolleyes:

[NedStark09]

Well Science does depict there is no god and we come from dust from Mars or some silly thing. I believe in God Ok I believe in evil aka the devil. But I also believe its possible created aliens and other planets. Science is good thing at times cause science cure diseases But I also believe prayer is needed now. I dont know how to explain how I feel about faith and science better then that.

[Stirchley]

Is that where they got it or where they were tested and confirmed

Both.

If you look on the bright side of this, realize we're all going to die no matter what.

Gonna scream if I hear this one more time.

Im Sorry My Family are Babtists. And Id rather not talk about Religion and Politics anymore about this thing. When comes to church and how I choose to believe. How about it be my own buisness to believe how I want as an american.

Fine with me. I think you were the one who brought up religion.

Our bishop has suspended all daily and weekend Masses, liturgies, and devotions and has asked that all churches and chapels including adoration chapels within the diocese be closed. A dispensation from the obligation to attend Sunday Mass granted to the faithful.

Gosh. I attend Rosary Prayer every Wednesday at 7 a.m. Need to find out tomorrow if that is continuing. What a time of year (running up to Easter) to be going through this.

In your memory, has this happened before?

Well Science does depict there is no god and we come from dust from Mars or some silly thing. I believe in God Ok I believe in evil aka the devil. But I also believe its possible created aliens and other planets. Science is good thing at times cause science cure diseases But I also believe prayer is needed now. I dont know how to explain how I feel about faith and science better then that.

I thought you were done with the religion discussion?

Let’s keep this thread on the coronavirus topic. 😎

[Yoda]

Yep, gonna have to ask people not derail this. Thank you in advance. :up:

[Mesmerized]

Gosh. I attend Rosary Prayer every Wednesday at 7 a.m. Need to find out tomorrow if that is continuing. What a time of year (running up to Easter) to be going through this.

In your memory, has this happened before?


Not that I'm aware of. It would be interesting to find out how they dealt the pig flu and other incidents that disrupted normal living.

[Stirchley]

I was naughty today & bought all 13 containers in the store of this stuff. I don’t care; it’s hard to find.


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[Mesmerized]

I heard on the news that the crisis could last through July or August. I hope they develop a working vaccine soon.

[Mesmerized]

I was naughty today & bought all 13 containers in the store of this stuff. I don’t care; it’s hard to find.


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I dont think frozen yogurt is a hot item right now. My local Walmart and grocery store is out of rice, but they still have cans of mini ravioli.

[Yoda]

I heard a vaccine was in trials. Hopefully they can expedite that process.

[Mesmerized]

I heard a vaccine was in trials. Hopefully they can expedite that process.

I heard that too. I also heard that they are foregoing the usual animal testing as this would take years. The vaccine will be tested on people already infected.

[MonnoM]

Stop going out people!

And miss out on the opportunity to enjoy a quiet walk or have an entire movie theater to myself? I think not.

[Stirchley]

I dont think frozen yogurt is a hot item right now.

Since it’s frozen, it can’t be hot, but I take your point. This frozen yogurt is so delicious, but people definitely prefer ice cream for which there are numerous shelves.

I heard that too. I also heard that they are foregoing the usual animal testing as this would take years. The vaccine will be tested on people already infected.

For pity’s sake, no more animal testing. It’s outrageous!

And miss out on the opportunity to enjoy a quiet walk or have an entire movie theater to myself? I think not.

San Francisco is on lockdown for 3 weeks. The thing I dread the very most is a Connecticut lockdown & not being able to have my daily walk. I think I would go completely mad if I had to stay home 24/7.

[Mesmerized]

And miss out on the opportunity to enjoy a quiet walk or have an entire movie theater to myself? I think not.


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[Captain Steel]

I heard on the news that the crisis could last through July or August. I hope they develop a working vaccine soon.

I heard that the disease would still be around 5 years from now, but by then it will just be treated and reported on like the regular flu (which itself isn't really "regular," but is several different strains that keep evolving & mutating).

Like the flu we know, the Corona Virus will still be killing tens of thousands of Americans a year (especially those in high risk situations just as the regular flew still does just as it has for centuries), it's just our reaction to it and the media's waning interest in it that will make it a run-of-the-mill non-headline.

In other words - the current hysteria is just that!

[ironpony]

The movie theaters aren't even playing movies though. But if the government keeps going like this, there is going to riots in the streets in the next couple of months, and people breaking into places to get food and what they want, if they keep going like this. But maybe that's worth it to hope the virus dies down?

[Stirchley]

... the current hysteria is just that!

It’s wrong to call it “hysteria”. People are sad, frightened, worried, anxious, nervous. It’s only human to feel this way.

And now Stringer Bell (Idris Elba) has tested positive for the virus. :(

[Captain Steel]

It’s wrong to call it “hysteria”. People are sad, frightened, worried, anxious, nervous. It’s only human to feel this way.

And now Stringer Bell (Idris Elba) has tested positive for the virus. :(

The media is doing a lot more than just informing people - in some ways they are creating panic. And some people in the media & politics are politicizing the situation and thus spreading more fear whether that is their inteniton or just a by-product of their ulterior motives to utilize this situation against their opposition.

And yeah, I call people hoarding and fighting over toilet paper & stripping supermarket shelves, along with seemingly wanton attempts to destroy the economy in places where closing every single business or service is not yet warranted "hysteria."

That's not the public's fault - it's the media's & those trying to politicize the situation.

But the public would do well to maintain critical thinking, practice common sense precautions and remain calm in the face of the media's onslaught of "information" (factual or otherwise).

[ironpony]

One thing I noticed that is strange though, is that all the groceries in Canada where I live are shutting down as well as public facilities, but the hotels are still staying open. Why are the hotels still staying open, when everyone else is shutting down?

[Mesmerized]

One thing I noticed that is strange though, is that all the groceries in Canada where I live are shutting down as well as public facilities, but the hotels are still staying open. Why are the hotels still staying open, when everyone else is shutting down?

Where are you supposed to get food if the grocery stores are closing?

[cricket]

My wife will get to work from home for a while as she can conduct therapy over the phone. I won't get any rest though delivering to liquor stores by day and picking and dropping test results by night. I was given a mask when entering a Cambridge hospital a couple nights ago and I've been wearing it into the other facilities for that job.

[cricket]

One good thing is that I deliver to some grocery stores early in the morning so I have access before anyone else. I can fill up my cart and get out through the loading dock as the crowds come in.

[ironpony]

Where are you supposed to get food if the grocery stores are closing?

Good question.

[Yoda]

One thing I noticed that is strange though, is that all the groceries in Canada where I live are shutting down as well as public facilities, but the hotels are still staying open. Why are the hotels still staying open, when everyone else is shutting down?
Probably a lot of people stuck there for whom it's safer to stay than try to travel home right now.

I have family in Spain right now, but as dangerous as that is, it probably still beats an international airport and flight.

[chawhee]

Looks like some existing drugs have shown relatively promising treatment in several countries. It's called hydroxychloroquine...obviously early to call it a cure, but interesting to see if this progresses.

[NedStark09]

Id hate to see the economy after August with No School New Movies Of TV Show or Sports. And People having to struggle to get normal things. Im sorry for my comments on Trump Religion and other things if anyone was offended but I think Its too late to just stop and Stay Home. People who have struggling family businesses might want to risk staying open.


I Just think it should people business choice owners choice to open a bar or food business. I know they think quarantine means people wont be at risk if stay home. Im saying some people pride and lively hood is at stake. Things rich people may not have to worry about.

[Loner]

Where are you supposed to get food if the grocery stores are closing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7lMlz3DX_Q

[Citizen Rules]

I heard that the disease would still be around 5 years from now, but by then it will just be treated and reported on like the regular flu (which itself isn't really "regular," but is several different strains that keep evolving & mutating).

Like the flu we know, the Corona Virus will still be killing tens of thousands of Americans a year (especially those in high risk situations just as the regular flew still does just as it has for centuries), it's just our reaction to it and the media's waning interest in it that will make it a run-of-the-mill non-headline.

In other words - the current hysteria is just that!Misinformation. It's not hysteria that caused the President to stop airline travel from Europe. It's not hysteria that caused the World Health Organization to declare a pandemic. It's not hysteria that caused Italy in certain regions to shut down all retail business except groceries and pharmaceuticals stores. It's not hysteria that caused the governor of my and other states to close restaurants and bars and schools.

I can't believe how many people need to live in denial and create some alternative relative where the cornonavirus pandemic is merely a product of media hysteria. I'm might be concerned, very concerned at times, but I'm not going to delude myself with wishful thinking.

[Mesmerized]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7lMlz3DX_Q


Horse meat. Yummy.

[NedStark09]

To be clear I know this illness is very real. But I think New spread people fear and then Trump and his daily updates and calling a National Emergency just increased tension. Im very scared because my sister had serious surgery and she has to make her appointments and Lets not be joking about stores closing and no food. It would be sheer chaos if people could not get food. Trump would be known as the president to let things fall to the tenth level of hell. A Person is smart but get a group of people together and well. People at Black Friday Christmas Openings can trample people to death for a rare toy.

[Citizen Rules]

To be clear I know this illness is very real. But I think New spread people fear and then Trump and his daily updates and calling a National Emergency just increased tension. Im very scared because my sister had serious surgery and she has to make her appointments and Lets not be joking about stores closing and no food. It would be sheer chaos if people could not get food. Trump would be known as the president to let things fall to the tenth level of hell. A Person is smart but get a group of people together and well. People at Black Friday Christmas Openings can trample people to death for a rare toy.Ned, I'm going to send you and your sister positive thoughts:) You all will be OK, be careful but don't worry, there's plenty of food it just might take the store a few days to restock. I'm signing off for the night and I wish you and your family the best:)

[Loner]

Horse meat. Yummy.

My Australian Cattle Dog prefers elk tripe. So after killing local wildlife and forging for berries, I'll starve to death.

[Captain Steel]

Misinformation. It's not hysteria that caused the President to stop airline travel from Europe. It's not hysteria that caused the World Health Organization to declare a pandemic. It's not hysteria that caused Italy in certain regions to shut down all retail business except groceries and pharmaceuticals stores. It's not hysteria that caused the governor of my and other states to close restaurants and bars and schools.

I can't believe how many people need to live in denial and create some alternative relative where the cornonavirus pandemic is merely a product of media hysteria. I'm might be concerned, very concerned at times, but I'm not going to delude myself with wishful thinking.

I'm not saying all actions taken to prevent spread are unwarranted hysteria or that the virus should be ignored or thought of as a hoax.

I agree with erring on the side of caution. But I also agree with Ned on the point that the media is engaging in overkill (as they often do surrounding storms or potential disasters that a lot of times do not amount to the exaggerated potential the media intentionaly got the public over-exited about).

They do this because they are more concerned with ratings (which equates to viewership & money) than they are in providing public service.

They are engaging in exaggerations and constantly throwing out worst case scenarios to the public and doing it 24/7 to the point where it's having a major, rapid and negative effect on the public consciousness.

I sympathize with the media on one level that it's a balancing act: trying to keep the public informed while not causing all out panic.

But since some networks or journalists (be they radio, Internet or TV show hosts or reporters) are more concerned with content to grab viewers (sensationalizing) or politicizing the situation, they are causing panic with irresponsible reporting that is designed to impugn their opposition rather than inform... which ends up in pushing people toward hysteria rather than urging calm & common sense.

[Captain Steel]

Just got an e-mail from a bank saying we will only be able to use their drive-thru as the building will now be closed to customers "until further notice."

No more walking in the bank to see a teller or a banker on the floor.
(And here I was supposed to do some banking there for my mom tomorrow).

The e-mail says you can utilize all banking services via the drive-thru... wonder if I should put it to the test by taking some wrapped coins as there's always a sign saying you can't send wrapped coins through the tube in the drive thru.

Or pull up to the window and say I want to discuss options of opening a new CD vs. an annuity or investing in a money market account and maybe talking about obtaining a loan vs. refinancing on a home - let's lay everything out and go over it in detail shall we? (While the guy in the car behind me just wants to cash his paycheck!) ;)

[gbgoodies]

Just got an e-mail from a bank saying we will only be able to use their drive-thru as the building will now be closed to customers "until further notice."

No more walking in the bank to see a teller or a banker on the floor.
(And here I was supposed to do some banking there for my mom tomorrow).

The e-mail says you can utilize all banking services via the drive-thru... wonder if I should put it to the test by taking some wrapped coins as there's always a sign saying you can't send wrapped coins through the tube in the drive thru.

Or pull up to the window and say I want to discuss options of opening a new CD vs. an annuity or investing in a money market account and maybe talking about obtaining a loan vs. refinancing on a home - let's lay everything out and go over it in detail shall we? (While the guy in the car behind me just wants to cash his paycheck!) ;)


I'd like to see someone try to discuss banking options at the drive-thru if they don't drive. Can they just walk up to the drive-thru window and ask?

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[ironpony]

You asked when it will be "over." I'm pretty sure nobody took that to mean "when will this virus be eradicated forever?" because that's not how this works, for the reasons you just noted. They took it, quite reasonably, to mean "when will the crisis peak?" or "when will things start to get back to normal?"

You'll have to phrase things more precisely, I'm afraid, assuming your goal is actually to have your questions answered, which is a premise I'm finding it a bit harder to believe with each passing day.

And honestly, even if you did mean to ask something as strange as the above, and people did not realize that, it still should have been obvious from the responses how people were taking the question. The natural thing to do there is to recognize the miscommunication, explain it, and clarify what you meant. What you definitely shouldn't do is something like the above, where you never note precisely what you mean, and instead phrase your response as a disagreement or contradiction. That's a waste of everyone's time.

Taking the time to ask the right questions, and carefully consider answers before disagreeing with them, would go a long way here. When it's done in a thread asking about some perceived plot hole, it can be a little grating, but is mostly harmless. On this topic information and clarity are actually important, though, so you should adjust your threshold for this stuff accordingly. And hopefully those habits will be calibrated better going forward on less important topics, too.

Oh sorry I thought there was a contradiction based on how people seem to be talking about it, but my mistake. I apologize.

But if the virus is not going to be eradicated forever, does that mean the economy is going to open back up then? Do they realize that it's not going to go away forever, and they will soon have to open up again either way?

[Captain Steel]

I'd like to see someone try to discuss banking options at the drive-thru if they don't drive. Can they just walk up to the drive-thru window and ask?

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I don't think so because I believe businesses are restricted by law to service walk-ups at drive-thrus.
I saw a sign to that extent at the Wendy's drive-thru today: safety reasons - they can't have pedestrians in line with cars.

The e-mail did say that if customers need to access a safe deposit box at branches with no drive-thru, you'd have to call to make an appointment to be let into the building.

[gbgoodies]

I don't think so because I believe businesses are restricted by law to service walk-ups at drive-thrus.
I saw a sign to that extent at the Wendy's drive-thru today: safety reasons - they can't have pedestrians in line with cars.

The e-mail did say that if customers need to access a safe deposit box at branches with no drive-thru, you'd have to call to make an appointment to be let into the building.


When I was a teenager, I used to ride my bicycle up to the drive-thru window at the bank, but that was many years ago, and the laws have probably changed since then.

[Chypmunk]

When I was a teenager, I used to ride my bicycle up to the drive-thru window at the bank, but that was many years ago, and the laws have probably changed since then.
The Sundance Kid wasn't a colleague and friend of yours was he?
Just wondering whether I should start calling you Butch instead of Gbg from now on ;)

[JoaoRodrigues]

My boss was on the flight to Azores alongside someone that was infected. All the workers that are on Azores are in quarantine. He took a flight to the Continent (Portugal) and decided to not stay in voluntary quarantine and instead came to the company walking every sector countless times a day, without mask or gloves, and only saw him washing his hands once. He later asked her daughter, that is a secretary, for her to go home because he was afraid she caught the virus. When the CEO's asked him why he didn't stay home, he replied: because at home I can contaminate my wife.

Now, this is just a short example on why I don't like bosses, I don't care about the company I work in, I just hope they don't profit a lot, because they clearly don't share any profits, because, by the example above, they don't care about there employs. I'm a professional kind of guy, and sometimes I have to remind myself (when I'm doing a good work) that they don't deserve it. And this is why I'm very fun of regimes that don't privatize anything and focus on public enterprises/services, Cuba for instance. People work there all life to make profit for someone that doesn't care about them, at least the basic.

[NedStark09]

Ned, I'm going to send you and your sister positive thoughts:) You all will be OK, be careful but don't worry, there's plenty of food it just might take the store a few days to restock. I'm signing off for the night and I wish you and your family the best:)
Im Not as worried about it as other people because strange thing is we as in people in WV had really bad flu outbreak in January and thousands got sick and some doctors are wondering if we already got it in WV and recovered from it.


I dont know what it is about WV but many hear get flu and phemonia shots all the time or have remedy's for colds passed down from people who lives through a really bad fever in WV in 1800s.


I think its very possible Corona has been around a while and can be beaten but like with lots of phemonia people can die sadly or recover.


I think people should not panic and think stores cant restock. Trump and Congress aside this is America and we are strong people and I believe Corona will die and we will live.

[The Rodent]

Well, I've been feeling rough since yesterday.


Sore throat, temperature.


No cough or chest problems though.


I don't think this is Covid-19... but I phoned my doc anyway to be sure.


They can't see me until Thursday.


Thursday next week.


9 days to see the doc and get a test done.


It then takes up to 7 days to get the result.


16 days total.


All the panicking, panic mongering, panicking, and the panic mongering, and all the panicking on top of that... then add to that all the panic mongering as well... it takes over 2 weeks to just get a test.


I won't be going for the appointment next Thursday.
If this is Covid-19, it'll be gone by this weekend anyway.

[Chypmunk]

But 'it's nothing compared to the flu' so why you would even phone the doctor? ;)

[The Rodent]

Blegh.


Just needed to check because I have an 80 year old father with a heart condition, and a 78 year old mother with a pacemaker who almost died 2 years ago.

Covid-19 has a knack for killing the elderly and sick.

[cricket]

I'd like to see someone try to discuss banking options at the drive-thru if they don't drive. Can they just walk up to the drive-thru window and ask?

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I usually use the supermarket branch but hopefully those are still open. I had to walk through the Dunkin' Donuts drive thru this morning because you can't fit a truck. If that ends up being my biggest issue, I'll take it.

[JoaoRodrigues]

Where do you live? In Portugal you can get to a designated place, you don't even leave the car, they do all the testings and call you with the results. Also if you're infected doctors go to your house to perform routine checks, only severe cases are sent to the hospitals.

[Chypmunk]

Blegh.


Just needed to check because I have an 80 year old father with a heart condition, and a 78 year old mother with a pacemaker who almost died 2 years ago.
Just avoid contact for a fortnight irrespective of whether you have Covid-19.

Covid-19 has a knack for killing the elderly and sick.
Exactly why it should be taken seriously!

[Mr Minio]

Throat irritation here which induced occasional coughing (keep your sex jokes to yourself). No high temperature or anything else. Normally you wouldn't even think about it, but now with Coronavirus I'm subconsciously ****ting my pants. Either way I'm staying home for a month in case I have an asymptomatic version of the Corona. :)

[The Rodent]

Where do you live? In Portugal you can get to a designated place, you don't even leave the car, they do all the testings and call you with the results. Also if you're infected doctors go to your house to perform routine checks, only severe cases are sent to the hospitals.




In the UK.


We have the NHS here.
Means everything doesn't work, or works incredibly slowly.

Also, doctors haven't done house calls in the UK since like, the 1960s.


We have something here called ShropDoc though.
Emergency line where you can call out a doctor to your home. It's like a secondary 999 number.
Most of the time though, they don't answer the phone... or they keep you on the phone for so long you get fed up, hang up, and call 999 anyway.


Then there's the 111 non-emergency number.
Which is a premium rate number, not free like 999... and they do the same. They either don't answer, or keep you on the phone with so many questions you hang up and call 999 instead.

[FromBeyond]

Idris Elba has it now

[FromBeyond]

Throat irritation here which induced occasional coughing

Exactly the same here.

[JoaoRodrigues]

Damn. We have the 112 (Emergency number) and 808 24 24 24 (SNS 24 - 24 Hours Health), they're both free. 112 is the typical emergency number, like the 911 in America. The SNS 24 is a hotline that you call and a doctor or specialist answers the phone, you say the symptoms of the possible disease you have and they tell you exactly what to buy, how to threat it, what to do essentially, and it's a number not just for Corona virus, but for everything. Both numbers are generally fast, the SNS 24 had a long waiting line days ago because of the virus so they created a new number, now I think everything is alright again so the number was discarded I believe. We have very good professionals, especially nurses, most of our nurses have an extensive education, they often migrate to the UK ironically. I have total confidence in our health system. The Portuguese people took the virus very seriously after that incident in the beach, most people want to shut down everything, you don't see people on the streets, at night is a desert in any major northern city. We are a people that in general are very poor professionals, we don't have a schedule, but when sh%t gets real we deal with it like most people can't.

[JoaoRodrigues]

Throat irritation here which induced occasional coughing (keep your sex jokes to yourself). No high temperature or anything else. Normally you wouldn't even think about it, but now with Coronavirus I'm subconsciously ****ting my pants. Either way I'm staying home for a month in case I have an asymptomatic version of the Corona. :)

That sounds like an excuse for this.

[Yoda]

Oh sorry I thought there was a contradiction based on how people seem to be talking about it, but my mistake. I apologize.
Thank you. :) But yeah, in this case the seeming contradiction is found in the ambiguity of the language. More precise questions will yield more precise answers.

But if the virus is not going to be eradicated forever, does that mean the economy is going to open back up then? Do they realize that it's not going to go away forever, and they will soon have to open up again either way?
Once everyone's had it, there'll be antibodies, we'll have developed vaccines, we'll understand it better, etc. I'm not sure if it'll become equivalent to the flu, but presumably it'll be a lot closer to that even if it's not eradicated.