Does the "Bad Guy" ever win?
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Some more recent flicks that meet your criteria (beware of spoilers for all of the below):
A Nightmare on Elm Street, Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2, Cabin Fever, The Devil's Advocate, Fallen, Final Destination, Final Destination 2, Frailty, Identity, In the Mouth of Madness, Jeepers Creepers, Matchstick Men, Memento, The Ninth Gate (somewhat), Othello, Pearl Harbor, Se7en, The Planet of the Apes, Resident Evil, The Ring, The Talented Mr. Ripley, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and The Usual Suspects.
A Nightmare on Elm Street, Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2, Cabin Fever, The Devil's Advocate, Fallen, Final Destination, Final Destination 2, Frailty, Identity, In the Mouth of Madness, Jeepers Creepers, Matchstick Men, Memento, The Ninth Gate (somewhat), Othello, Pearl Harbor, Se7en, The Planet of the Apes, Resident Evil, The Ring, The Talented Mr. Ripley, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and The Usual Suspects.
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Originally Posted by Yoda
Some more recent flicks that meet your criteria (beware of spoilers for all of the below):
A Nightmare on Elm Street, Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2, Cabin Fever, The Devil's Advocate, Fallen, Final Destination, Final Destination 2, Frailty, Identity, In the Mouth of Madness, Jeepers Creepers, Matchstick Men, Memento, The Ninth Gate (somewhat), Othello, Pearl Harbor, Se7en, The Planet of the Apes, Resident Evil, The Ring, The Talented Mr. Ripley, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and The Usual Suspects.
A Nightmare on Elm Street, Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2, Cabin Fever, The Devil's Advocate, Fallen, Final Destination, Final Destination 2, Frailty, Identity, In the Mouth of Madness, Jeepers Creepers, Matchstick Men, Memento, The Ninth Gate (somewhat), Othello, Pearl Harbor, Se7en, The Planet of the Apes, Resident Evil, The Ring, The Talented Mr. Ripley, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and The Usual Suspects.
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Originally Posted by Jackie Malfoy
Interesting topic good idea!I don't see however how the apes won in Planet of the Apes I did see the movie so how did they win?
WARNING: "Planet of the Apes" spoilers below
In the older version, it's revealed that they've taken over Earth. In the newer version, it's revealed that the apes (inexplicably) rule the world Mark Wahlberg escapes to. The latter doesn't make much sense, but both ultimately end with the primary character aghast and defeated.
Originally Posted by Jackie Malfoy
Also in the Devil's Advocate did it the devil die at the end of the movie?If so how did the villen win that one?Sorry I am alittle confuse yoda!See you around!JM
Originally Posted by Jackie Malfoy
WARNING: "The Devil's Advocate" spoilers below
At the very end, it's revealed that he's actually alive; he takes the place of a reporter and talks Kevin into an interview by appealing to his pride and ambition, ending the film with the line "vanity...definitely my favorite sin."
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Originally Posted by Yoda
Some more recent flicks that meet your criteria (beware of spoilers for all of the below):
A Nightmare on Elm Street, Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2, Cabin Fever, The Devil's Advocate, Fallen, Final Destination, Final Destination 2, Frailty, Identity, In the Mouth of Madness, Jeepers Creepers, Matchstick Men, Memento, The Ninth Gate (somewhat), Othello, Pearl Harbor, Se7en, The Planet of the Apes, Resident Evil, The Ring, The Talented Mr. Ripley, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and The Usual Suspects.
A Nightmare on Elm Street, Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2, Cabin Fever, The Devil's Advocate, Fallen, Final Destination, Final Destination 2, Frailty, Identity, In the Mouth of Madness, Jeepers Creepers, Matchstick Men, Memento, The Ninth Gate (somewhat), Othello, Pearl Harbor, Se7en, The Planet of the Apes, Resident Evil, The Ring, The Talented Mr. Ripley, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and The Usual Suspects.
I'm not too sure about Memento
WARNING: "Memento" spoilers below
Lenoard is told at the end of the movie or THE BEGINNING OF THE TIMELINE, that he has killed the "RIGHT" John G. a long time ago, only he doesn't remember it. We then question wheather or not John Gammel's photograph of him (the topless photo of him, somewhat covered in blood and pointing to his chest) really IS* a photo of what he claims it to be. If it IS, John Gammel stole Lenoard's picture in order to use him to kill that other guy for the money in the car. In that case John Gammel recieved a fitting end for taking advantage of him. But more importantly it means that he has found the RIGHT killer and avenged his wife's death. <----- as he was set out to do
But in the case that the photo ISN'T what John claims it to be, would lead us to ask questions such as how did that photo come into existence? which looks so geniune to what Gammel claims it to be.... I need a prequel
But in the case that the photo ISN'T what John claims it to be, would lead us to ask questions such as how did that photo come into existence? which looks so geniune to what Gammel claims it to be.... I need a prequel
Either way I don't see how you think the "bad guy" has won in memento Yoda.
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How about "Arlington Road" with Tim Robbins and Jeff Bridges? The bad guy TOTALLY wins that one. I don't know if you can really count horror movies in this topic, cause the majority of them are made with the knowledge that there's a GREAT chance of a sequel or sequels coming out, so you'd figure the bad guy would usually have to win.....or at least survive.
Originally Posted by gothamboy
How about "Arlington Road" with Tim Robbins and Jeff Bridges? The bad guy TOTALLY wins that one. I don't know if you can really count horror movies in this topic, cause the majority of them are made with the knowledge that there's a GREAT chance of a sequel or sequels coming out, so you'd figure the bad guy would usually have to win.....or at least survive.
Couple things....
RE: Planet of the Apes (Burton version) The ending makes sense, scope out my explaination here
As for Memento:
I perceive this film as a study of the psyche and perception, with no clear cut archetypes in character set forth. All the characters are ambiguous, as is the concept (perception), and I think this was the point the director was trying to make, It's all how you see things (and remember them, to be sure).
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RE: Planet of the Apes (Burton version) The ending makes sense, scope out my explaination here
As for Memento:
WARNING: "Memento" spoilers below
I also have trouble labeling anyone as a bad guy here. Gammel could be, if he was manipulating Leonard, but so could Carrie Ann Moss for that matter. Actually, Almost the entire cast could be the bad guy. The hotel guy for renting him multiple rooms, Moss for using him, The guy he kills for the car/clothes is a criminal. If Leonard accidently OD'ed his wife, he is a criminal. So yes, if we look at it this way, the bad guy wins, but all the characters would be bad, so the bad guy not winning isn't a possibility.
I perceive this film as a study of the psyche and perception, with no clear cut archetypes in character set forth. All the characters are ambiguous, as is the concept (perception), and I think this was the point the director was trying to make, It's all how you see things (and remember them, to be sure).
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Originally Posted by Yoda
The Talented Mr. Ripley
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Temptress Moon and Raise the Red Lantern.
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Originally Posted by Yoda
Some more recent flicks that meet your criteria (beware of spoilers for all of the below):
Frailty
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Originally Posted by Yoda
Some more recent flicks that meet your criteria (beware of spoilers for all of the below):
A Nightmare on Elm Street, Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2, Cabin Fever, The Devil's Advocate, Fallen, Final Destination, Final Destination 2, Frailty, Identity, In the Mouth of Madness, Jeepers Creepers, Matchstick Men, Memento, The Ninth Gate (somewhat), Othello, Pearl Harbor, Se7en, The Planet of the Apes, Resident Evil, The Ring, The Talented Mr. Ripley, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and The Usual Suspects.
A Nightmare on Elm Street, Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2, Cabin Fever, The Devil's Advocate, Fallen, Final Destination, Final Destination 2, Frailty, Identity, In the Mouth of Madness, Jeepers Creepers, Matchstick Men, Memento, The Ninth Gate (somewhat), Othello, Pearl Harbor, Se7en, The Planet of the Apes, Resident Evil, The Ring, The Talented Mr. Ripley, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and The Usual Suspects.
Originally Posted by Yoda
Some more recent flicks that meet your criteria (beware of spoilers for all of the below):
A Nightmare on Elm Street, Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2, Cabin Fever, The Devil's Advocate, Fallen, Final Destination, Final Destination 2, Frailty, Identity, In the Mouth of Madness, Jeepers Creepers, Matchstick Men, Memento, The Ninth Gate (somewhat), Othello, Pearl Harbor, Se7en, The Planet of the Apes, Resident Evil, The Ring, The Talented Mr. Ripley, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and The Usual Suspects.
A Nightmare on Elm Street, Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2, Cabin Fever, The Devil's Advocate, Fallen, Final Destination, Final Destination 2, Frailty, Identity, In the Mouth of Madness, Jeepers Creepers, Matchstick Men, Memento, The Ninth Gate (somewhat), Othello, Pearl Harbor, Se7en, The Planet of the Apes, Resident Evil, The Ring, The Talented Mr. Ripley, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and The Usual Suspects.
Originally Posted by Yoda
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WARNING: "Planet of the Apes" spoilers below
In the older version, it's revealed that they've taken over Earth. In the newer version, it's revealed that the apes (inexplicably) rule the world Mark Wahlberg escapes to. The latter doesn't make much sense, but both ultimately end with the primary character aghast and defeated.
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WARNING: "The Devil's Advocate" spoilers below
At the very end, it's revealed that he's actually alive; he takes the place of a reporter and talks Kevin into an interview by appealing to his pride and ambition, ending the film with the line "vanity...definitely my favorite sin."
Anyway see you around!JM
Originally Posted by Revenge of Mr M
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The whole thread should be in spoilers
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It's a god-awful small affair, To the girl with, the mousy hair, But her mummy is yelling "No", and her daddy has told her to go, But her friend is nowhere to be seen, Now she walks through her sunken dream, To the seat with the clearest view, And she's hooked to the silver screen, But the film is a saddening bore, For she's lived it ten times or more...