The MoFo Top 100 of the 60s: Countdown

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I'm surprised Elmer Gantry showed up already. It was one of four movies I considered for my top slot, along with Onibaba, Contempt, and one to come. Ultimately, I thought it was the most complete movie out of the four, and I think it's a fantastic movie in every way.

I also loved Spartacus, but it was a late cut.

My list-

#1 Elmer Gantry
#2 Onibaba
#3 Contempt
#6 Hud
#11 Inherit the Wind
#15 An Autumn Afternoon
#22 The Battle of Algiers
#23 They Shoot Horses, Don't They?
#25 The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance



Not really a fan of Elmer Gantry. I really liked the first 20 minutes or so and thought Lancaster put in a great performance but it became less enjoyable for me as it went on. Spartacus is a good film but I feel like it is one of Kubrick's weakest.

Neither made my list.

My list:

1. Late Autumn
2. Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
8. The Human Condition III
10. An Autumn Afternoon
13. In the Heat of the Night
17. Red Desert
22. Viridiana
25. Fail-Safe

Seen 43 of 54



Kind of crazy to think that about half of the points for Elmer Gantry came from number one slots, it squeezed on to my list at Number 24, and makes my fifth to enter this list. I also thought that it would come in around the top 30, but I guess outside of those who really love it, it didn't receive that many points. Here were my thoughts when I watched it:

Elmer Gantry opens with a short shot of chapter 1 of the novel, I'm not sure if this implies a loyal reproduction, but since one of the criticisms I heard of this film is that it vulgarizes the novel, than it's probably not. And this film vulgar, especially for the time. There was a lengthy warning at the beginning that the content may offend. The film, while perverted, is usually colorful and light filled. An early is where Elmer goes into a black church, even as the farthest thing from a spiritual man, or a singer, I wanted to stand up and sing with them. That was a well done scene. Everywhere the salesman Elmer Gantry goes people think he's a preacher, and really he always was. It's clear to see how much this film inspired. During Gantry's ramblings, I always saw the resemblance to Network. Elmer also reminds me of John Candy's character in Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. The preaching is Wise Blood is highly similar, and the cult like setting in The Master. The script is filled with wit and the dialogue keeps moving. The church at the end is highly remarkable and realistic. A 150 minute delight.
Same as Lolita I haven't seen Spartacus. I should watch some of Kubricks lesser known films from the 60s, trends show that I will like them.

My List:
3. Knife in the Water
5. La Jetee
7. The Trial
21. Breathless
24. Elmer Gantry
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Guess what, 2 other films that I loved, but that didn't quite make my list.
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Didn't see Elmer Gantry.
I'm surprised Spartacus actually made it! It was the only Kubrick from the 60's that wasn't on my list. That means all his 4 movies from this decade will be here! YEAHHHH!!!



I've not seen Elmer Gantry, though I'm not much of a Lancaster fan that's not really why I haven't seen it. I just haven't.

Spartacus on the other hand. On the plus side, at least it's not top 40.
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I've always been so-so with "Spartacus". But I really like "Elmer Gantry". I seriously considered adding it to the list, but I think it was one of those that got lost in the bunch of last minute cuts. It is still a very good film, though. So, it is nice to see it show up on the list.
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Didn't see Elmer Gantry.
I'm surprised Spartacus actually made it! It was the only Kubrick from the 60's that wasn't on my list. That means all his 4 movies from this decade will be here! YEAHHHH!!!
Strangelove will be snubbed. Miss Vicky, HK and I plotted a plan to make sure it would be offed.



Strangelove will be snubbed. Miss Vicky, HK and I plotted a plan to make sure it would be offed.
Why come up with this now, raul? I'd have actually been into this list if we could've orchestrated something like this.



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I suppose it's appropriate that Jean Simmons' best films of the '60s would show up together. Of course I would hope they'd be higher, "but many are called but few are chosen." This catchphrase can also be used to explain why certain movies appeal to certain people. Maybe someone never watched it or did see it and it didn't touch their soul deeply enough to affect them. Both these films have deeply touched and affected me. I can also see they touched Citizen Rules, my bro cricket and donnie. . Forgive me for quoting such long passages here, both from my mafo MoFo Top 100.

#1 Elmer Gantry
#7 Mary Poppins
#22 Spartacus

Elmer Gantry (Richard Brooks, 1960)

Sinclair Lewis' novel Elmer Gantry is basically an exposé of the corruption in the 1920s Midwest of religious charaltans who prey on their victims at revivals. Lewis mentored writer-director Richard Brooks (Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, The Professionals, In Cold Blood) and hoped that he would adapt his novel to the screen, and that's what happened. However, Brooks took something which was satirical, yet painted in a more black & white pallete and turned it into something more complex, where people's motivations and behaviors are much more open to interpretation. I'll say straight up that some people will have a tough time watching Elmer Gantry. It confronts people's core beliefs about God, Christianity, corruption in high places, what makes a person "good", personal responsibility, etc., and it does it very melodramatically. However, if you pay close attention, Elmer Gantry is probably the most subtle melodrama ever made because I don't believe anybody can clearly tell me which characters, if any, are truly good or evil.

The film's opening scene has Gantry (the overpowering, Oscar-winning Burt Lancaster), a drunken, womanizing traveling salesman, drinking it up on Christmas Eve with the boys in a speakeasy, but when a woman comes in asking for donations, Gantry remains in his salesman persona while pitching Jesus as someone who deserves respect and alms because he "would have made the best little All-American quarterback in the history of football". Gantry seems like a scumbag, and in many ways, he is, but as the film progresses, it becomes apparent that he has a strong spiritual yearning and truly believes in God. Sure, he screwed up at the seminary, seducing the deacon's daughter, Lulu Baines (Shirley Jones, another Oscar), thus turning her into a hooker, but that was many years ago.

Gantry gets out of town on Christmas on a freight train, and his first stop is an all-Black church, where his soulful rendition of a gospel song sends everyone into spiritual heights. It's after that when he meets Sister Sharon (Jean Simmons, in her best performance), the sincere preacher of a traveling revival. Sister Sharon is petite but full of the Spirit, and not only does she move her attendees, she turns Elmer Gantry on in more ways than one. He finagles his way past Sharon's honest business manager Bill (Dean Jagger) and is able to get a job with her revival. He proceeds to preach fire and brimstone under the revival tent but enrages Bill and gains the unwanted attention of the agnostic, Pulitzer-Prize-winning journalist, Jim Lefferts (Arthur Kennedy), who is following Sister Sharon and reporting for his big city newspaper.

Eventually, numerous crises arise, and relationships are strengthened and shattered. The thing I love about Elmer Gantry is that it paints an even-handed side to the story and its characters. I honestly believe that this film has the best script of any movie I've seen. By that, I mean that it's non-stop, straightahead storytelling, combined with sparkling dialogue and characters who seem to grow by the second. The acting is uniformly awesome. I just wish I could find some decent shots of Arthur Kennedy and Dean Jagger or maybe an audio link of Gantry (yeah, it's really Lancaster) singing "On My Way".

The above is a weak one with Kennedy where Lancaster tells him that Jagger wants to give him some "secret information". Gantry sure has a way with people. He often seems and is sincere. Now, my question is, how many people are or know Elmer Gantrys, at least this one in the film? How many have friends or family who seem and oftentimes are, completely sincere, yet "backslide" constantly? Do you still love them or do you cut them loose? Or does anybody else, besides me, see Elmer Gantry when they look in the mirror? (I'm not a womanizer though; I left that to somebody else in the family.)
Spartacus (Stanley Kubrick, 1960)
I just showed Spartacus to Sarah for the first time, so I had to explain all the behind-the-scenes trivia about the film and its restoration. I'm going to go into that later, but first I want to discuss the film itself. Spartacus is a lavish, epic film about a slave revolt against the Roman Empire some time before Julius Caesar became Emperor. Kirk Douglas, the executive producer, plays Spartacus as a very dignified slave who becomes the slave army's leader. The film is jam-packed with big name stars. Jean Simmons plays the lovely slave Varinia who becomes Spartacus' wife, Tony Curtis plays a "singer of songs" who wants to fight, Laurence Olivier and Charles Laughton play rival Roman senators, Peter Ustinov plays the jovial head of a gladiator school, and there are dozens of other recognizable names and faces playing smaller roles in the three-hour-plus film.

The film begins at the salt mines of Libya where Spartacus is purchased to train to become a gladiator. The subsequent scenes at the gladiatorial school have always been my favorite part of the film, especially the scenes involving the trainer (Charles McGraw), Spartacus' tender meeting of Varinia, and the high point of the entire film, the duel to the death with Draba (Woody Strode) before the patrician Crassus (Olivier), his protege Glabrus (John Dall) and their two lady companions (Nina Foch and Joanna Barnes). Later, after the slaves revolt, the film focuses on their attempt to leave Italy, and Rome's tactics to thwart them and stop the legend of Spartacus from snowballing into the heart of every single slave in the Empire.

Spartacus went through a lot of creative hassles to make it to the screen. First off, Kirk Douglas wanted to use blacklisted Dalton Trumbo for the script, and then he wanted to go ahead and credit Trumbo himself in the credits; when he did so, Douglas effectively broke the Black List in Hollywood. Then, western-veteran Anthony Mann was hired to direct, and he did direct the spectacular opening scenes in Libya, but he and Douglas had a falling out, so he was fired. Mann subsequently directed two gargantuan epics, El Cid and The Fall of the Roman Empire. Douglas went looking for a director and found one in Kubrick who had directed him in Paths of Glory. Kubrick was available because he was fired/had quit (depending on who says what) as director of Marlon Brando's One-Eyed Jacks. Kubrick directed the film but felt constricted because he didn't have his usual total sayso over the script, production, casting and final cut. Kubrick did actually shoot much of the film himself, although Russell Metty got the film credit and the Best Color Cinematography Oscar. Based on his experience with Spartacus, Kubrick moved to England to get away from Hollywood and to be able to make all his subsequent films with total control. Even so, Spartacus was a big critical and popular hit. The major naysayers were people like Hedda Hopper and John Wayne who called it Commie propaganda before it was ever screened.

Since Spartacus is seen by some viewers as less than a pure Kubrick film, a group of film buffs deign it to be less significant, entertaining and absorbing than his other films, but I've never understood that. I will admit that the film seems less "Kubrickian", but there are still some major Kubrick touches, and the film is compelling all the way through. One personal touch which I find the most moving in the film is the way Kubrick films the scenes of the simple people while Tony Curtis "sings" his song about going home. With the most beautiful part of the musical score playing in the background and Curtis's voice in the forground, a series of naturalistically-photographed scenes are shown of babies and families resting and dreaming of returning home yet knowing that they still have a tough fight ahead of them. In fact, Kubrick reprises the mood and texture of this scene when Spartacus later walks through the camp the night before the biggest battle of the campaign while the camera tracks along with him. The people are all looking directly into Spartacus' eyes with hope, whether they're nine or ninety-years-old. That is pure Kubrick, and the fact that he probably shot those scenes himself (and I'd say it was obvious that he edited them too) makes them very Kubrickian for those who care.

Another thing which is interesting to note while watching Spartacus is the way that after the opening scenes in Libya and some of the battle scenes, many of the scenes with the big name cast seem to be shot on sound stages while the humongous crowd scenes (usually sans the stars) are filmed on location. This was Kubrick's choice. He wanted to work with the actors on the sound stage so that he could have more control (this is a technique he shared with Hitchcock, among others). Sometimes, it may seem a bit odd or "phony" to modern viewers, but it works well enough in the movie. You don't really watch Spartacus thinking how phony it is. For one thing, the movie's cast most all give superlative performances, balancing the witty (Ustinov and Laughton, apparently benefitting from a rewrite of their scenes by Ustinov himself) with the sincere (Douglas, Curtis and Simmons) and the menacing (Olivier and McGraw). Spartacus is a film I loved as a little kid, and I enjoy it just as much now as an Old Fart.

One other thing to mention about Spartacus is its restoration in 1991 and release to theatres that year (I saw it on the Big Newport's gigantic screen). Many scenes of violence were restored, including the ones using actors with one arm made up to have a prosthetic arm chopped off, as well as extra blood and guts in a few scenes which were deemed "sickening" by the Legion of Decency at the time. However, the most significant of the restored scenes was the one where Laurence Olivier tried to seduce his servant Tony Curtis by using a snails and oysters analogy. The film's restorers had access to the images of the scene but the soundtrack had been lost and Laurence Olivier had already died. Tony Curtis could redub his own dialogue (mostly delivered in long shot), but it took a suggestion from Olivier's widow Joan Plowright to enable the scene to be restored. Plowright remembered that Anthony Hopkins did a perfect Olivier impression at a cocktail party, so she suggested him, he agreed and the voice you hear on the soundtrack is Sir Tony dubbing Lord Larry.
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I had Elmer Gantry on my list, probably around 20th. I would never have watched it without Mark's love for it on this forum, probably. It's been a while since I saw it, but it was a really great experience at the time. I think if more people saw it they would like it. I think the position is around what I expected.
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An idea for the next countdown, giving films negative points. I like that idea a lot.
A countdown might get messy if we include that. If by popular vote it is included, I think it should just be people subtracting 50 points from one movie of their choice.



I gave 2001 minus 50 points...
2001 gave you minus a million points.
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