Signs of a bad movie

It doesn't have to state outright that it's not gospel truth, assface. Lots of media doesn't outright claim "this is the truth" but the media shapes reality to many people. If people see something in a movie they think that's what really happened. That's what I'm afraid of with the garbage of SPR.
Get over yourself, Yankee.

I didn't say that America did it alone or whatever. I simply said the movies were American propaganda, and they were. SPR doesn't show anyone else in the war except them and the Germans.

Listen to yourself, idiot. "So yes, America was a part of it, and if you dispute that, perhaps you would like to try fascism on for size, which it seems you are clearly a fan of." You're a ****ing moron.

You should be expecting bad rep. Lots of it.

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I am ashamed at the fact that this guy is Canadian.

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"The feel good movie of the year."

Horror - For the movie Begotten.

J. Hoberman said, "It makes Eraserhead look like Ernest Saves Christmas."

Americans did help to win the war. The British were living underground, and half of France was speaking Greman before the Amricans got into the war. And why shoudn't Americans applaud the efforts and accomplishments of their soldiers?

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IDIOTS!!!! BRAINWASHED AMERICANS!!! THE WORLD DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND YOU.
Don't overstate your importance on the world scene using knowledge gleaned from your Yankee textbooks.

Your contribution, while significant, was minimal compared to the lives lost by the Russians, British, French... Read up, you ignoramuses.

America did HELP win the war. That's correct. They didn't win it on their own. That's all I'm saying.

That's because it's an American movie made for American audiences. Thus, it focuses on American forces. That's not propaganda: that's just sensible. Suggesting otherwise is as assinine as going to a foreign country and complaining that they don't speak English.


If "Yankee textbooks" can be said to be biased towards America, there's no reason the opposite cannot be said for textbooks in other countries.


Contribution to victory is not necessarily measured in lives lost. In fact, logic would dictate the exact opposite, seeing as how the point is for the enemy to die.


Who, pray tell, is saying otherwise?

Regardless, consider this your one and only warning to behave yourself. Your juvenile temper-tantrums are counterproductive to your argument, anyway.

Woah.... Ladies and gents, I present you with ignorance, at it's best.

You seem like a fairly bright person, with possibly intelligent and informed opinions on some things. Unfortunately though, your vitriol and name calling are cancelling out any pertinant thing you might have to add.

Switch to decaf, Pookie.
We'll all be happier.

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Why don't you all take this outside.

That's what Intermission: Miscellaneous Chat is for.

The thread is "signs of a bad movie."

Understood Loner.

But I have to continue.

Yoda said "Contribution to victory is not necessarily measured in lives lost. In fact, logic would dictate the exact opposite, seeing as how the point is for the enemy to die."

See, that's a typical American statement. I use the example of lives lost to give an indication as to the sacrifice made by each contributing country. The bigger the number of casualties, I suggest, the greater deserving of respect and honour for their contribution.

Of course, many Americans died, and I don't lessen their impact by arguing here. However, using the argument of numbers alone, it's unfair and callous to disregard the contributions and lives lost by those countries aforementioned in my post. Americans' know very little of what it means to sacrifice lives in a war because you only showed up by the wars end in both WWI and WW2.

And you act ignorantly towards those great numbers of people that gave their lives for your freedom by coming out and saying such ignorant unlearned statements as Yoda here. Don't ever discredit a lost life for freedom.

Yes I wrote that, so I am aware of it. I assume you are talking to me, even though you clearly don't know how to use this board, and didn't quote anyone. I will quote you however:

Let me get this straight... You think everything in a movie is real? Like, say perhaps you actually believe that Mr. Spock exists, or that maybe if you use your mutant power to teleport to Jupiter, you would see a giant monolith enveloping the planet and becoming a sun. You don't know what anyone thinks except yourself unless you are (incorrectly) assuming things, whuch it appears you are. As stated before, unless a film is a documentary, it's fiction, and if someone believes all fiction to be true, well they are clearly not in touch with reality, and there is no helping them. and I really don't care what they think. As you should not. Also, A film DOES actually have to state if it is true (documentary) or fiction (most other films). Just because something says "Based on a true story" doesn't mean it's true. My 6 year old neice knows this, it's easy to figure out.

It's cool if you want to express your opinion about a film, and I am sure many would like to debate film facts with you, but if you just show up here and start calling entire countries full of people idiots, you only make yourself look and sound foolish, get everyone on the board pissed at you, and end up missing out on potential fun/friendships. Your loss completely.

If you really feel all films are propaganda, here is a little hint, stop watching them. There is this concept called self-responsibility, where you actually make the choice whether or not something is right or wrong, propaganda, or generally worth your attention. I believe one sets an example through his/her actions and I have no problem following these ideals. I know many people, who also happen to live in the US, who have the same concepts embedded into their lives, and have no problem distinguishing between fiction and reality. If you would rather follow sterotypes and place labels on masses of people you have never met, than your actions will define you as well....

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Yoda also said something to the effect that SPR was made for an American audience. Bull! I guess then that Schindlers list was made ONLY for Jews? Or only for Americans???? Of course not. The intended audience is worldwide for ALL his movies.

And that is why the American propaganda films such as SPR piss me off, because they reach a worldwide audience, not excluding many many Americans who don't actually know the truth from a fictionalized, Hollywood account of actual events.

I'm done.

Sedai, when will the idiocy end??? Of COURSE I DON"T MEAN THAT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN MOVIES IS REAL.

I won't even justify your stupid post with a comment.

Wow. Who knew you were capable of such a calm, rational argument?

I did not, and will not ever discredit a life lost for freedom. The discussion was about contribution to victory, which is not the same as sacrifice. Those who sacrifice their lives for freedom (or any other noble principle) are admirable for doing so, but their sacrifice does not always contribute to achiveing their aim. That's one of the things that makes war so horrific.

As for knowing what it means to sacrifice lives in war: we lost 400,000 in WWII. Our population was about half then what it is now, according to the 1950 census, which means that 1 out of every 375 Americans was killed during the conflict. Counting only males 14 and over (who obviously did most, if not all, of the fighting), you had a 1 in 138 chance of being one of those who died in the war.

Also, I cannot help but take note of the fact that you did not answer my question about who, if anyone, had suggested that America won the war on its own. You got awfully riled up, but at who? Who said we'd fought the war alone?

It was "made" for Americans in the sense that it was targetted at them. Nail polish is "made" for teenage girls, and that remains true even if you decide you'd like to wear it, too. People tend to like to see movies about people like them. An American film containing largely American actors and released primarily in America is going to, amazingly, probably focus on American characters. There's nothing wrong with that, despite your paranoid ramblings to the contrary.


For once, we agree.

Clerks wasn't based on a comic....The clerks comic book was created years after the film was already on video.

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So using this reasoning, how do YOU know ANYTHING about war at all? Where are you from again? What great warrior race do you come from again? I won't answer this post as Yoda is quite capable of shredding people in debate, and I am sure he will be along shortly. Also, those that came before me (the people who ACTUALLY know about the war, as they were there) built this country on various conflicts, and during WW2 the entire country mobilized for the cause, to the point that there were not enough men in the country to sustain the workforce, puching women into unknown realms at the time. My Grandmother went to work for Noble Oil corp in 1941 and was stationed in the Northwest territories in Canada for years to help get enough resources for the war. The conditions were absolutely horrible, and for you to just sit and discount the actions of so many people who dropped everything in their lives to help stop a nazi war machine flies in the face of all recorded history and solidifies your place amoung people who clearly have no idea what they are talking about. I am no expert on the losses of war, and have never claimed to be. Please explain how YOU are such an expert, sitting all comfy by your computer, talking on the web.

Come on folks, some of you people in other countries need to pipe in here, as clearly this kid won't listen to anyone from this country.

[quote=Yoda]Wow. Who knew you were capable of such a calm, rational argument?

I surprise even myself, sometimes.

[quote= Yoda] which means that 1 out of every 375 Americans was killed during the conflict. Counting only males 14 and over, you had a 1 in 138 chance of being one of those who died in the war.

Hmmmmmmmm. Well 1 out of every 3 killed in WW2 was Russian.

The movie Saving Private Ryan, and for that matter Pearl Harbour, or Full Metal Jacket or Platoon (while the latter two are movies I really like and granted, not related to the former two in terms of content) all depict a one sided picture of war. The Americans vs. the World. I think the image that burns me the most is the fade out scene of SPR, the American flag, tattered by the winds of war, blowing in the sunshine kissed breezes of freedom. The image is clear for anyone who understands imagery... especially after what the movie depicted. The unparalleled (supposedly) contribution of the Americans in the war. America America - bringings of freedom, consumer of the fascists, the communists, the dictators, the EVIL presence.

Thats what I was referring to.

Here's my argument - I don't give a ***** about your grandma.