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Keep on Rockin in the Free World
actually i made a mistake, i meant to quote gunny, not your post Chris, however, i do find it extraordinary you haven't seen either Sick or Corporatism a love story.

I'd have thought they were both right up your alley.
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Yeah, I've lost a little of my fightin' spirit over the last few years. And after Fahrenheit 9/11, I just started to feel like I understood Moore's way of doing things, and that films after that would just be the same formula attached to a different issue. That, and his films seem to generate a bit less press and interest with each successive effort, so it feels less "important" to be arguing about them. But I will definitely see both.



Restrepo is the best documentary I have seen in years. Never have I seen such true human emotion captured on film.

Also, I like Werner Herzog's stuff a lot.
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My all time favorite American documentary is probably Harlan County, USA (1976) by Barbara Kopple. It's about a coal miners strike in Kentucky during the 1970's. More suspenseful than any Hitchcock thriller and at the same time heartbreaking and hopeful. I cry every time I watch it.

There is an absolutely fantastic Swedish documentary called Kamrater, motståndaren är välorganiserad (1970) by Lars Westman (there's no English title but it would be something like: Comrades, the Opponents are Well Organized). As in the case of Kopple's film, "Comrades" is about a miners strike. It took place in 1969-70 and is known in Sweden as The Great Miners' Strike.

It's interesting to compare the two films. In the case of Kopple's film the miners are protesting against a private company, while the strikers in Westman's film are protesting against a big state-owned company AND the union who view the strikers as too radical.

I watch a lot of documentaries. If the documentary is a genre and I had to pick a favorite genre that one would probably be my choice.

Other great documentaries I've seen pretty recently are Man on Wire (2008) by James Marsh, Winnebago Man (2009) by Ben Steinbauer, Standard Operating Procedure (2008) by Errol Morris and Until the Light Takes Us (2009) by Aaron Aites and Audrey Ewell.

Right now I'm looking forward to seeing the Danish Armadillo (2010) by Janus Metz and the French Henri-Georges Clouzot's Inferno (2009) by Serge Bromberg and Ruxandra Medrea.

About Michael Moore, I think that mostly he's got something important to say and, at best, he does it effectively through a mixture of satire and seriousness. His ambition to always put as much as possible in his films and his habit of showing only the most controversial or sensational sides of the story make things too easy for his critics though.

Since Bowling for Columbine, which I think is his best film, I haven't seen a film by him that was great. They always have great moments or sequences in them, but you always have the feeling that you're not getting the whole picture. Unlike his right wing critics, I don't think this is necessarily because Moore is trying to hide the real friendly humane face of war or capitalism from the audience. My guess is that Moore's aim is to make entertaining movies and that he's afraid that if things get too serious or too complicated, big parts of his audience will be bored and find him uninteresting. What he considers to be the most obvious proof of his theses are possibly sometimes the weakest links in the chain of facts leading to the truth. Sometimes you have to dig deeper and ask more complex questions to reveal irregularities of power, but Moore mostly shies away from these questions.

Personally, I think his chances of once again becoming an interesting filmmaker is to do a Woody Allen - remove himself from his own films. The subjects are often too important to be overshadowed by the clown-like Moore persona. I will see his next film as well though...
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Restrepo is the best documentary I have seen in years. Never have I seen such true human emotion captured on film.
saw that a few weeks ago. Really good portrait of what it's like under pressure serving in Afghanistan. I always find it hard to watch those things cos I keep placing myself in the shoes of their mothers as they're the same sort of age as my sons.



Those looking for good documentaries may find some unseen gems in this list.

http://movies.sky.com/gallery-100-best-documentaries

There's some absolute must-sees on this list, as you'd expect from a best 100 list.
excellent list that Hon.
I'm a documentary fan too so seen loads on it but there's still some intruiging ones I need to seek out. I'd recommend The Power of Nightmares and Fog of War to anyone.



I am having a nervous breakdance
saw that a few weeks ago. Really good portrait of what it's like under pressure serving in Afghanistan. I always find it hard to watch those things cos I keep placing myself in the shoes of their mothers as they're the same sort of age as my sons.
How does it show the people of Afghanistan?



Keep on Rockin in the Free World
Count me in as a huge fan of the non-fiction genre as well.

The one thing with M. Moores films that cant be forgotten is the commercial sucess of his ventures has opened the wallets of investors into the genre. Nobody enjoys anywhere near the success financially speaking simply because they by and large have to rely on the festival circuit and word of mouth to get the word out.

Many certainly are tied to the grassroots activism movement, and one of the interesting trends is the following of the successful model of The Corporation, which is a documentary based on a book. In many of these cases, the internet has been embraced with their films being streamed on mainstream sites (googlevid, youtube) to help drive DVD sales loaded with extras including full interviews.




I am having a nervous breakdance
Count me in as a huge fan of the non-fiction genre as well.

The one thing with M. Moores films that cant be forgotten is the commercial sucess of his ventures has opened the wallets of investors into the genre. Nobody enjoys anywhere near the success financially speaking simply because they by and large have to rely on the festival circuit and word of mouth to get the word out.

Many certainly are tied to the grassroots activism movement, and one of the interesting trends is the following of the successful model of The Corporation, which is a documentary based on a book. In many of these cases, the internet has been embraced with their films being streamed on mainstream sites (googlevid, youtube) to help drive DVD sales loaded with extras including full interviews.

The Corporation is an excellent film. It's really well crafted and shouldn't be so tough for people see, but I guess it is since it hasn't had the same success as Moore's films.

You are absolutely right about Moore's impact on the genre. And also, I think his films have raised people's awareness of how documentaries are always made by someone for someone and that they should not be confused with "the truth". Also, an argument often heard in association with Moore's films is that it doesn't matter that his films are biased or exaggerated, because so are the media from "the other side". Moore is good for the balance. I'm not sure if I agree with this last argument whole heartedly, but I still think it's better that his films exist than if they didn't; I think the negative consequences are fewer than the positive ones.



I'll hold my tongue on The Corporation for now. I will definitely say that I think that's a great observation, though, Dex. Moore's films have helped to make documentaries seem more financially viable, probably for people of all political persuasions, too. Hopefully that continues.



How does it show the people of Afghanistan?
It doesn't apart from showing a couple of jurgas with village elders. It's a documentary about a small unit of soldiers based in a remote place in the mountains, the daily pressures on them not an overview of what they're doing there in the first place - quite another story!



Keep on Rockin in the Free World
Well i certainly didn't know about the attempted coup of Roosevelt and teh exploits of General Smedly Butler if not for this film Chris.



Its not like this was covered in any History book in highschool.



Further, topics the doc gleaned over whet my appetite for future docs/books such as

Blue Gold- World Water Wars



The World According to Monsanto



to a lesser extent,

Walmart: The High Cost of low Prices



which in turn led me to the work of Robert Greenwald

including the must see Iraq for Sale- The War Profiteers.



which in turn led me to Why We Fight.

And so on and so forth.

The really great thing imo is now that a democrat is president, and all of the above issues are just as prevalent, maybe those folks that refused to watch these because they were led to believe they were "hit pieces on their guy" will now lose the blinders and give em a looksy.






The really great thing imo is now that a democrat is president, and all of the above issues are just as prevalent, maybe those folks that refused to watch these because they were led to believe they were "hit pieces on their guy" will now lose the blinders and give em a looksy.
I find that the political bias argument (from either side) is usually an excuse not to see the problems that should/need to be addressed.



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I think my favorite documentary would have to be "The Devil and Daniel Johnston."
That's a very nice film. Have you seen You're Gonna Miss Me about Roky Erickson? Great stuff as well.



Keep on Rockin in the Free World
I find that the political bias argument (from either side) is usually an excuse not to see the problems that should/need to be addressed.
I couldn't agree more. I don't know how many times I've got into a discussion over a particular doc/subject, and once the surface talking ponts have been breached , it becomes readily apparent they haven't seen the film.

its a little odd for sure.



Keep on Rockin in the Free World
re-discovered this excellent doc from 1995.

Using the 1992 presidential election as his springboard, documentary filmmaker Brian Springer captures the behind-the-scenes maneuverings of politicians and newscasters in the early 1990s. Pat Robertson banters about "homos," Al Gore learns how to avoid abortion questions, George Bush talks to Larry King about halcyon -- all presuming they're off camera. Composed of 100% unauthorized satellite footage, Spin is a surreal expose of media-constructed reality.
Unable to secure funds for DVD release, the filmaker Brian Singer uploaded his work to Googlevideo




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I saw a doco last week called Teenage Papparazzi. Very interesting and informative. Not sure too many parents would let their kid go on this journey of self discovery. The outcome seems to make it all worthwhile though for mine.



Keep on Rockin in the Free World


This France-Canada co-production goes behind the scenes of the huge tobacco industry, whose economic power has been expanding for five decades at the expense of public health. A gripping investigation covering three continents, Nadia Collot's film exposes the vast conspiracy of a criminally negligent industry that conquers new markets through corruption and manipulation. To confront the tobacco cartel, anti-smoking groups are organizing and scoring points, but the fight remains fierce. With its diverse viewpoints, shocking interviews and riveting images, The Tobacco Conspiracy deftly defines the issues in a complex situation where private interests and the public good collide. Enlightening and engrossing, this documentary is a hard-hitting critique of an industry gone mad.
For anyone who saw "Thank you for Smoking" and thought well its a satire, its not like this stuff is real or anything.

http://freedocumentaries.org/teatro....an=en&size=big