Marijuana: Do you do it?

I would think the mere fact that you're dumbing yourself down would answer this question. The "what's wrong with" type of response works as a way of saying "oh, it's not so bad" -- which I mostly agree with. But that's not the same thing as saying it's good, or even neutral.

In order to agree with the point I was making, you have to believe that some activities really are more enriching and rewarding than others. I think being amused by something because it's genuinely clever is a fundamentally more rewarding activity than being amused because I've artifically lowered my standards as to what qualifies as clever.

How wonderfully abstract. Funny is in the eye of the beholder, sure. But there's no disputing that pot lowers the bar as to what is witty or funny, which is the only fact necessary to make my point.

I hate that I sound like such a tremendous douche whenever I try to extol the virtues of marijuana. I just love it so much, I feel like I have to defend it.

If somebody who had never eaten your favorite quasi-unhealthy-but-still-unbelievably-delicious-food stubbornly repeated that the food you love so much is gross and that they would never eat it themselves, wouldn't you say something about it?

No.

But then, I don't eat food either.

Nah, you sound fine. But I know what you mean. I've sometimes found myself defending something I knew had downsides, but thought was worthwhile anyway, and it always feels weird.

Not really an apt comparison without the whole getting high part, but yeah, I'd probably mention how much I love it. I don't think I'd have a lot to say if someone pointed out that it was bad for me, though.

A lot of this discussion seems to revolve around John saying he was "proud" of not having smoked, though, which I think is totally reasonable. Using your food analogy, isn't everyone proud when they manage not to eat something unhealthy?

I'm more of an instant gratification kind of guy. I take solace in the fleeting moments of pleasure, rather than the all-encompassing moral victories that last a lifetime.

Is this stuff grown on huge crops, like our veges, and fruits. Now those are weighted down with many bad things. I thought people just grew their own, and if so, as far as the plant itself is concerned, it is way better off than the crap the stores give us to eat. Which is why I grow my own. Veggies, and fruits, that is.

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Marijuana makes you dumber, true. But it's nice, pleasant, cosy and it smells good and tastes good. You often laugh your ass off, you sleep really well and you are not hung over the next day. It doesn't make you violent and if you smoke too much you might feel sick for a while and then you fall asleep. Listening to music or having sex on marijuana is quite exceptional. But I have never believed that people become more creative when on dope. That's a myth, no doubt about it.

Marijuana, just like alcohol or any other drug, is for relaxing and having fun. It will never make you a better person and of course it's not good for your health. A little bit, now and then... that's how you do it. Or, that's how I do it.

I have a friend who grow his own and it's nice not having to buy from crooks or to support big drug syndicates. It would be nice to be able to grow your own stuff legally, but at the same time it wouldn't take long before weed was commercialized. Then, automatically, people would be in business of making big bucks on making other people heavily addicted to this drug. And just look at all the problems we have because of alcohol. I don't think society can handle one more legal drug like that. So, I prefer to smoke illegally and hope that the cops go after the big fish. Which they do as long as us sprats handle things smoothly.

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They had temporarily escaped the factories, the warehouses, the slaughterhouses, the car washes - they'd be back in captivity the next day but now they were out - they were wild with freedom. They weren't thinking about the slavery of poverty. Or the slavery of welfare and food stamps. The rest of us would be all right until the poor learned how to make atom bombs in their basements.

Somebody already mentioned this somewhere in this thread, but I think it bears repeating. While pot may not necessarily make you more creative, it does stimulate your mind in other ways. Like coming up with more abstract (albeit often idiotic) ideas. So for a writer or something, I think weed can help you reach a great starting-off point in the creative process. But, yeah, it is pretty much impossible to develop or expand upon those new ideas while under the influence.

Doesn't it depend on the person, anyway?!? Like alcohol, some get angry, some get tired, and some get happy. I'd say it depends on the person.



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Masturbation meets three of those conditions and makes you more clever. Just wanted to point that out.

You could hear me? Oops, I didn't really mean it, man. Especially when I called you a . . .

i am generally not interested in smoking marijuana. i have tried it, yeah, i wasn't impressed though. my boyfriend, Mom, and sister all smoke it regularly [and they all three share the same joint when they're together...], and i have no problem saying no, but it isn't anything to do with "being against" it, i'm just not into it. and i don't think there is anything wrong with people who like to smoke. i'm a firm believer in "to each his own", on all issues that concern only the person making the decision and nobody else. if it's not harming anyone, who cares? i sure don't. smoke all you want. drink all you want. have sex all you want, have an abortion. i would never look down on anyone, or pass judgment for doing any of the things i just listed.

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I smoke a half an ounce a week. I would type more but Im stoned.

And you can do both at the same time...

I think abortion is the odd man out there, but I generally agree with the sentiment...

I don't think there's much of a difference, emotion is emotion and every life experience is beneficial in some way. *Buddha*

But I also wouldn't narrow down the pot smoking experience to giggling at bad jokes...it can be much more than that...

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even if i was pro-life i wouldn't be the preachy type. i just don't think its anyone else's business. but god, i'll shut up, that's a whole other issue, a whole other thread...

I'm wary to go there, but which three are YOU referring to, lines?

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Too true, girlie! We need a break from the debating, if you ask me.

It's amazing how many members have been reading, and replying to this thread today. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd choose pot over politics any day.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have some brownies to bake . . .

I second that.