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LOL. I've been practising TM for almost as long as I;ve watched Lynch movies. I still dont understand where he's coming from. There aint no collective consciousness between my mind and the Lynchian universe. I still freak out to this day about Eraserhead.
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I looked into TM and it sounded great but then they wanted a fairly exorbitant amount of money which turned me off. I think they have since changed their, ahem, pricing policy. I'm still curious about it though.
I love Mulholland Drive and it's the only David Lynch movie I like. I might like Blue Velvet on a second viewing, but didn't like it on a first. As for Mulholland Drive not having visual appeal, I suppose it does kind of look like a 90s TV movie, but it's still decent enough, looks wise. I really like the story and script though, and those are the highlights.
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One of my favourite movies of all time!
Here is my weird and vague interpretation if anyone is interested lmao
Here is my weird and vague interpretation if anyone is interested lmao
So it starts with the amnesia things and first I thought that all the weird sequences with the men and the actress thing ("that's the girl") was the Spanish girl trying to piece everything together. So solving her life through those dream sequences. I had a feeling that she would be Camilla Rhodes because of "the girl" being Camilla Rhodes.
Then we meet the blonde girl 'Betty', the aunt 'Ruth', and the landlord 'Coco'. Then we see that Betty goes on audition and they all love her and send her to another audition, the one with the guy that is supposed to cast Camilla as 'the girl', except in the dream sequence, Camille is a blonde girl. We see that Adam looks at 'Betty' like he would rather cast her than 'Camilla', but he was forced to cast Camilla by the cowboy. This is a sign of 'Betty', aka Diana Selwyn thinking there is a reason why she wasn't cast for that movie, why the real Camilla ('Rita') was cast, she imagined there was a whole maffia complot behind it.
Then we see that 'Rita' thinks her real name is 'Diane', and they go finding the real Diane Selwyn. They end up seeing a dead body at Diane's apartment. This I think was a metaphor of her dead dreams and basically her being dead without 'Rita', 'cause we see at the end that she ends up being rejected by her.
Then the sex & opera scene happen. Where they keep stressing that everything is just an illusion. This for me was the first key that it was all fake. Well, during the sex scene it was also kinda obvious. was too good to be real. Reminded me of the Mila x Natalie Portman girl on girl action in Black Swan, which was also a dream. Then when 'Rita' opens the blue box, the whole dream sequence ends and we see who 'Betty' really is.
I think the blue box signifies Diane's conscious telling her that she actually ordered a hitman on Camilla. Because later we see that she hired a hitman on Camilla. Whether that really happened is another question. but if so, the blue box ending the dream would mean that Diane would wake up all shocked and with the realization that she ordered a kill.
Then we find out in 'real life' that all the pieces of the puzzle come together. Everyone we met in the dream is linked to Diane in real life, except they're different people. 'Coco' is actually Adam's mother. And her aunt has been dead for a while, so 'Ruth' wasn't really her aunt.The Spanish girl is actually Camilla Rhodes and she's together with Adam, and seems to have a thing with Camilla of the dream too. In real life, Diane Selwyn is gross and failed. So the dream is easily distinguished from reality.
So all in all it's all a dream because Diana is obsessed with Camilla and in her (drug)dream, her and Camilla are together and because Camilla suffers from amnesia, she doesn't think about Adam or 'Camilla', she just is with Diane and focusses on her and falls in love with her. So in her dream, they could actually end up together. But she wakes up before there's a happy ending. Because there never will be a happy ending, not even in her imagination. She killed Camilla off, and even her subconscious knows that now.
So in my head, it's the dinner sequence that's first, then the hitman thing, then the 'amnesia' storyline.
I could probably write down more but I already forgot half of it.
Then we meet the blonde girl 'Betty', the aunt 'Ruth', and the landlord 'Coco'. Then we see that Betty goes on audition and they all love her and send her to another audition, the one with the guy that is supposed to cast Camilla as 'the girl', except in the dream sequence, Camille is a blonde girl. We see that Adam looks at 'Betty' like he would rather cast her than 'Camilla', but he was forced to cast Camilla by the cowboy. This is a sign of 'Betty', aka Diana Selwyn thinking there is a reason why she wasn't cast for that movie, why the real Camilla ('Rita') was cast, she imagined there was a whole maffia complot behind it.
Then we see that 'Rita' thinks her real name is 'Diane', and they go finding the real Diane Selwyn. They end up seeing a dead body at Diane's apartment. This I think was a metaphor of her dead dreams and basically her being dead without 'Rita', 'cause we see at the end that she ends up being rejected by her.
Then the sex & opera scene happen. Where they keep stressing that everything is just an illusion. This for me was the first key that it was all fake. Well, during the sex scene it was also kinda obvious. was too good to be real. Reminded me of the Mila x Natalie Portman girl on girl action in Black Swan, which was also a dream. Then when 'Rita' opens the blue box, the whole dream sequence ends and we see who 'Betty' really is.
I think the blue box signifies Diane's conscious telling her that she actually ordered a hitman on Camilla. Because later we see that she hired a hitman on Camilla. Whether that really happened is another question. but if so, the blue box ending the dream would mean that Diane would wake up all shocked and with the realization that she ordered a kill.
Then we find out in 'real life' that all the pieces of the puzzle come together. Everyone we met in the dream is linked to Diane in real life, except they're different people. 'Coco' is actually Adam's mother. And her aunt has been dead for a while, so 'Ruth' wasn't really her aunt.The Spanish girl is actually Camilla Rhodes and she's together with Adam, and seems to have a thing with Camilla of the dream too. In real life, Diane Selwyn is gross and failed. So the dream is easily distinguished from reality.
So all in all it's all a dream because Diana is obsessed with Camilla and in her (drug)dream, her and Camilla are together and because Camilla suffers from amnesia, she doesn't think about Adam or 'Camilla', she just is with Diane and focusses on her and falls in love with her. So in her dream, they could actually end up together. But she wakes up before there's a happy ending. Because there never will be a happy ending, not even in her imagination. She killed Camilla off, and even her subconscious knows that now.
So in my head, it's the dinner sequence that's first, then the hitman thing, then the 'amnesia' storyline.
I could probably write down more but I already forgot half of it.
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Watched this last night at the cinema.
So incredibly iconic. Shot after shot.
Great film. I respect if people rate Eraserhead, even though it's not my cup of tea, just because it is so different, but for me MD's head and shoulders his best. His masterpiece.
Whereas Blue Velvet crashed in my rating seeing it on the big screen (I actually walked out tbh), Mulholland Drive just soared in my estimation.
So incredibly iconic. Shot after shot.
Great film. I respect if people rate Eraserhead, even though it's not my cup of tea, just because it is so different, but for me MD's head and shoulders his best. His masterpiece.
Whereas Blue Velvet crashed in my rating seeing it on the big screen (I actually walked out tbh), Mulholland Drive just soared in my estimation.
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IMO, David Lynch was a director unlike any other. I loved some of his movies and disliked others, but regardless, he always did crafted his works with a unique and uncompromising artistic cinematic vision.
With regard to Mulholland Dr., there is no doubt in my mind that it will (rightfully) be remembered as his finest movie. The reason why I love it so much is that it’s an endlessly fascinating labyrinthine dreamscape. I also love the mystery aspect of the movie and the questions that are raised that may or may not have answers. Mulholland Dr. is like an eternal onion; the more layers you peel back, the more layers you find, and you don’t know if there’s any real center.
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With regard to Mulholland Dr., there is no doubt in my mind that it will (rightfully) be remembered as his finest movie. The reason why I love it so much is that it’s an endlessly fascinating labyrinthine dreamscape. I also love the mystery aspect of the movie and the questions that are raised that may or may not have answers. Mulholland Dr. is like an eternal onion; the more layers you peel back, the more layers you find, and you don’t know if there’s any real center.
Mark
It's extra confusing for Millenials, because they keep calling a character who is clearly a woman, a girl.
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Not a Lynch guy. The one movie recommended for me to try was this one. Thought it was okay but it seemed to be more of a collection of "cool images" than a coherent story. And maybe that's Lynch's thing and I'm glad he's unique in that sense but, at the same time, it made for a weird disjointed movie which didn't work for me. My favorite scene was the girl singing Crying in French and that has nothing to do with anything in the movie.
Strangely I find it more entertaining to watch his weird interviews and videos as he's very entertaining in some of them. I'd probably enjoy a movie about Lynch more than I'd enjoy his other films.
Strangely I find it more entertaining to watch his weird interviews and videos as he's very entertaining in some of them. I'd probably enjoy a movie about Lynch more than I'd enjoy his other films.
Not a Lynch guy. The one movie recommended for me to try was this one. Thought it was okay but it seemed to be more of a collection of "cool images" than a coherent story. And maybe that's Lynch's thing and I'm glad he's unique in that sense but, at the same time, it made for a weird disjointed movie which didn't work for me. My favorite scene was the girl singing Crying in French and that has nothing to do with anything in the movie.
Strangely I find it more entertaining to watch his weird interviews and videos as he's very entertaining in some of them. I'd probably enjoy a movie about Lynch more than I'd enjoy his other films.
Strangely I find it more entertaining to watch his weird interviews and videos as he's very entertaining in some of them. I'd probably enjoy a movie about Lynch more than I'd enjoy his other films.
WARNING: "Mulholland Drive" spoilers below
That scene, and the Club Silencio scene on the whole was a major clue to the viewer that we were witnessing a false reality. It's the crux of the entire film.
I hated this film on first watch. Maybe give it another shot armed with the knowledge that the first two hours are a sort of Wizard of Oz-esque fever dream of a person who has recently experienced a psychotic break.
I hated this film on first watch. Maybe give it another shot armed with the knowledge that the first two hours are a sort of Wizard of Oz-esque fever dream of a person who has recently experienced a psychotic break.
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The obvious Lynch movies for non fans are clearly The Elephant Man and Straight Story. You get all of the talent, and less of the mystery and confusion.
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I never try to explain to myself what the Lynch movies mean or how they should be interpreted, I simply enjoy the nightmarish marvel of it all.
However, I did get the impression that the characters of Mulholland Drive were a cosmic connection trapped in time and everything happened in a continuous loop, not necessarily with the same outcomes.
It's real but it isn't, it puts the "twilight" back in twilight zone, it's Doctor Who on steroids. It's everything and blue.
And is that blue box connected with Twin Peaks' Blue Rose Project?
Lauraaa!
However, I did get the impression that the characters of Mulholland Drive were a cosmic connection trapped in time and everything happened in a continuous loop, not necessarily with the same outcomes.
It's real but it isn't, it puts the "twilight" back in twilight zone, it's Doctor Who on steroids. It's everything and blue.
And is that blue box connected with Twin Peaks' Blue Rose Project?
Lauraaa!
Not a Lynch guy. The one movie recommended for me to try was this one. Thought it was okay but it seemed to be more of a collection of "cool images" than a coherent story. And maybe that's Lynch's thing and I'm glad he's unique in that sense but, at the same time, it made for a weird disjointed movie which didn't work for me. My favorite scene was the girl singing Crying in French and that has nothing to do with anything in the movie.
Strangely I find it more entertaining to watch his weird interviews and videos as he's very entertaining in some of them. I'd probably enjoy a movie about Lynch more than I'd enjoy his other films.
Strangely I find it more entertaining to watch his weird interviews and videos as he's very entertaining in some of them. I'd probably enjoy a movie about Lynch more than I'd enjoy his other films.
So interestingly, although Rita and Betty think it wasn't real, it actually was.
Maybe you could say the same about them?
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An aspect of Lynch's films that I love is multiple layers of reality. He often suggests that dreams and visions are still real for the people having them, existing somewhere outside both the physical world and the mind of the dreamer. Normally it's only seen and experienced by the one person, but in some circumstances they can invade the real world.
WARNING: spoilers below
They insinuate this by having the old woman enter the room after the box falls to the floor, as if she heard it land.
Other stories are based entirely around thi concept, like Lost Highway. I contend that virtually everything in that movie, that we see on the screen, actually happens. The man dissociated so hard it altered reality.
Other stories are based entirely around thi concept, like Lost Highway. I contend that virtually everything in that movie, that we see on the screen, actually happens. The man dissociated so hard it altered reality.
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Watched this last night at the cinema.
So incredibly iconic. Shot after shot.
Great film. I respect if people rate Eraserhead, even though it's not my cup of tea, just because it is so different, but for me MD's head and shoulders his best. His masterpiece.
Whereas Blue Velvet crashed in my rating seeing it on the big screen (I actually walked out tbh), Mulholland Drive just soared in my estimation.
So incredibly iconic. Shot after shot.
Great film. I respect if people rate Eraserhead, even though it's not my cup of tea, just because it is so different, but for me MD's head and shoulders his best. His masterpiece.
Whereas Blue Velvet crashed in my rating seeing it on the big screen (I actually walked out tbh), Mulholland Drive just soared in my estimation.
If you have not seen Lost Highway, I would recommend it. When it came out many people said it made no sense. I think Lynch was taking another shot at the same idea in Mullholland drive. They both make sense if you watch it a few times.
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If you have not seen Lost Highway, I would recommend it. When it came out many people said it made no sense. I think Lynch was taking another shot at the same idea in Mullholland drive. They both make sense if you watch it a few times.
Lost Highway came out in the 90's, so if you are submitting a ballot you might take a look at it.
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