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The Pajama Game
I was torn between:
1. I really enjoyed the musical. All the girls falling in love with a new superintendent Sid Sorokin. Clear and not complicated story, lots of fun, great dance numbers and songs. I know Doris Day only from The Man Who Knew Too Much picture and she surprised me with her powerful voice, especially in I’m Not At All in Love and There Once Was a Man, the high energy Sid and Babe duet. I’ve just found myself another favourite soundtrack, after Godspell. I was so enjoying There Once Was a Man duet that I went back to play it maybe another ten times. She’s an excellent singer and so confident, all that energy radiating from the screen. I felt like to jump to screen and sing and dance with her. The best dancing scene was the company picnic. I wish our company Christmas parties would be like that, spontaneous and fun.
2. So Mr. Hasler cooks the books and steals money from workers postponing the issue of 7.5 cents raise for 6 months. Then Sid reveals the embezzlement and goes to Mr. Hasler, they keep it secret under condition of to pay the workers immediately, however not retroactively. And workers are all happy and think they won. And we don’t see any consequences for Mr. Hasler whatsoever. I mean what the hell? So by stealing the money, lying and cover-up, Mr Hasler gets to be a nice guy and Sid wins Babe’s love back. I would expect from this kind of movie to give me some morals. Instead, the movie actually celebrates defrauding a worker of a just wage.




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The Pajama Game
[indent] I mean what the hell? So by stealing the money, lying and cover-up, Mr Hasler gets to be a nice guy and Sid wins Babe’s love back. I would expect from this kind of movie to give me some morals. Instead, the movie actually celebrates defrauding a worker of a just wage.
Oh, I don't know, sounds EXACTLY like American Moralism to me. lol
Which, sadly, isn't entirely sarcastic.

Enjoyed the review, I actually watched this a couple of days ago and haven't posted my review yet. Hopefully in the next day or so.

Know what you mean about the high energy of There Once Was A Man. Reminded me of some of the bits I've seen of her in Calamity Jane
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The Pajama Game
I was torn between:
[indent][left]1. I really enjoyed the musical.
Loved your review of this movie and am so glad you enjoyed it. Can't believe this is only your second Doris Day movie...if you're interested, Citizen and I have a few films we would love to recommend.



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There Once Was A Man from The Pajama Game reminded me of the tune from the TV western Bonanza. Anyone else think that?

2. So Mr. Hasler cooks the books and steals money from workers postponing the issue of 7.5 cents raise for 6 months. Then Sid reveals the embezzlement and goes to Mr. Hasler, they keep it secret under condition of to pay the workers immediately, however not retroactively. And workers are all happy and think they won. And we don’t see any consequences for Mr. Hasler whatsoever. I mean what the hell? So by stealing the money, lying and cover-up, Mr Hasler gets to be a nice guy and Sid wins Babe’s love back. I would expect from this kind of movie to give me some morals. Instead, the movie actually celebrates defrauding a worker of a just wage.
He was forgiven for his sins, isn't that being moral?




He was forgiven for his sins, isn't that being moral?
I like your comment Citizen and you are right. I would love to hear some good Doris Day recommendations from you and @Gideon58
Some of her other musicals she did or dramas.



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I love all of Doris Day's movies. My favorite musical of hers is Calamity Jane.

BTW, I love what you said about Doris in your review:
She’s an excellent singer and so confident, all that energy radiating from the screen. I felt like to jump to screen and sing and dance with her.
So true! So has the same good natured, happy energy in Calamity Jane. And it has the great Howard Keel!

We're going to have to do another Live Action Musical Hof, as I'm loving these movies! Same with Vamp's Hof, I love those movies too. Maybe someday we'll do a Twin Musical Hof Part 2



I love all of Doris Day's movies. My favorite musical of hers is Calamity Jane.

BTW, I love what you said about Doris in your review:
So true! So has the same good natured, happy energy in Calamity Jane. And it has the great Howard Keel!

We're going to have to do another Live Action Musical Hof, as I'm loving these movies! Same with Vamp's Hof, I love those movies too. Maybe someday we'll do a Twin Musical Hof Part 2
Just put Calamity Jane on my list. That would be great to start HOF Part II after this. Count me in. Just by participating on this one so many good musicals coming to my mind.



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Just put Calamity Jane on my list. That would be great to start HOF Part II after this. Count me in. Just by participating on this one so many good musicals coming to my mind.
Thanks, but I can't start another Musical Hof right after this one, as there's already a bunch of Hofs going on and others will be starting soon...but yeah, one day there will be a part 2

Citizen actually nominated Calamity Jane in the Westerns HOF. Don't think it is a rule that you can't again since it didn't win, just saying.
Yup, the Western Hof, there's another Hof that I'd like to see a Part 2 of.

BTW, I think it's fine if people nominate movies from past Hofs (as long as they didn't win and enough time has elapsed). Destiny did with Laura, which was in the first Film Noir Hof.



Yeah i don't think anything is wrong with it either was just letting him know because he might not want to nominate something that has before even though it isn't a rule.



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Yeah i don't think anything is wrong with it either was just letting him know because he might not want to nominate something that has before even though it isn't a rule.
It's a good point, and I'm glad you brought it up. I thought about mentioning before in past Hofs...If you look at the older Hofs, there were lots of great movies that were nominated (but didn't win), and so much time has elapsed, that it would be cool to see some of them get another shot. I wish I had been in the main Hofs since the 1st one. They really did nominate some good films over the years.



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The Pajama Game

I wasn’t sure about this before I started but it got off to a good start with the bright colours, the neon lighting and the breezy ensemble numbers in the factory and the whole fifties look of it.

However, there was so little plot, and the songs are more musical interludes than advancing the story, which made it basically all interludes. And tap dancing. Possibly my least favourite type of dancing. The ‘Steam Heat’ number on the stage was good, dancing wise, but it didn’t add much to the story at all.

The main story is just the romance between Doris Day (who was great) and John Raitt (who was less great). There’s not much discernible chemistry between them, and I really don’t know what she saw in him - he’s blessed with neither looks nor personality. She’s energetic and principled, while he just came across as selfish and pushy - especially in the scene where she’s trying to make coffee and he keeps insisting he’s got something better for her lips to do. Ugh. And he’s a complete jerk to her at work straight after singing about how much he loves her, and then starts hitting on someone else straight away (even if it is just for her key). And then he only gets her back by participating in a cover-up. What even happens to her? Does she get another job? That isn’t really addressed.

Although that said he’s a catch compared to Vernon and his knives. That whole sequence was dreadful. But then again this is a movie where knife crime, domestic violence, embezzlement and exploitation are all comic mishaps.

Of the songs I think I liked I’m Not At All In Love the best, but I also enjoyed the musical ‘go-slow’ in the factory and the way Hernando’s Hideaway was staged.

I liked Doris Day’s quirky dad with his petrified bats.

And since somebody mentioned the pink refrigerator, I thought I would just give a shout out to the curved green chest of drawers.



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And since somebody mentioned the pink refrigerator, I thought I would just give a shout out to the curved green chest of drawers.
That was me! I'm into refrigerators But...I dug the 'curved green chest of drawers' as well I want a house decked out in 1950s decor....well expect the TV set.



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I never could get the hang of Thursdays.
That was me! I'm into refrigerators But...I dug the 'curved green chest of drawers' as well I want a house decked out in 1950s decor....well expect the TV set.
I liked all the fifties decor and the fact that it was made in the fifties. If you saw a period fifties film made today decked out like that you might think it was over the top, but it was authentic kitsch!



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Good point, Oh and I agree with you on John Raitt, he was kind of drippy and none too nice. And like you said, I'm not sure why the smart and savvy Doris Day character would have liked him? But then again, why does she volunteer to have knives thrown at her?



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I never could get the hang of Thursdays.
Good point, Oh and I agree with you on John Raitt, he was kind of drippy and none too nice. And like you said, I'm not sure why the smart and savvy Doris Day character would have liked him? But then again, why does she volunteer to have knives thrown at her?
A glutton for punishment perhaps



Thanks for the info. I didn't know that. IMDB lists him as the singer in a few songs, but Wikipedia says that Tamblyn's voice was only dubbed in "Jet Song", which is the song that I was talking about when I said that his voice should have been dubbed.

According to Wikipedia:
"Tucker Smith, who played Ice, dubbed the singing voice of Riff in "Jet Song", instead of Russ Tamblyn. Tamblyn's own voice was used in "Gee, Officer Krupke" and the "Quintet"."
Never understood that whole dubbing Tamblyn ugliness...what was going on there, we've heard Russ Tamblyn sing onscreen long before WSS...



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I liked Russ Tamblyn in WSS and I'm OK with his voice, dubbed or otherwise. But you know what does bug me? His hair dye job! Didn't they know about high-lights and low-lights back then



I'd give her a HA! and a HI-YA! Then I'd kick her.
Never understood that whole dubbing Tamblyn ugliness...what was going on there, we've heard Russ Tamblyn sing onscreen long before WSS...

According to the Wikipedia page for the WSS soundtrack, Marni Nixon claims that Russ Tamblyn's voice was dubbed over by Tucker Smith because Tamblyn had contractual obligations with MGM Records.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_S...y_(soundtrack)


If that's true, then I don't understand why they didn't dub all of his songs, instead of only one.
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