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And guess what? My feelings haven't changed and you didn't get the answers you were looking for. So what was the point?
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I did get the answers I was looking for. I don't try to sway opinions when they're based in..well, nothing.
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You're taking what I say far too seriously. I accepted your feelings a page ago.
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35. Confessions
Incredible Japanese psychological thriller with a lot of twists and really immoral themes. Kids killing kids? That's wrong on so many levels.
34. Olympia
Hands down the best sports documentary I've ever seen. Thanks to unlimited Nazi money it's technically unbeliveable and shows rivalry like no other film.
33. The Face of Another
Woman in the Dunes was already a movie I loved and I thought nothing from Teshigahara can be better, but the next movie I've seen from him turned out to be a flawless masterpiece. Oh, comely. Neutral Milk Hotel. What?
32. Harakiri
My favourite Jidaigeki film and favourite Nakadai performance. Also it features my favourite melee weapon duel ever.
31. Eureka
Masterful psychological drama as good as My God, My God, Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me?, but I had to pick one and since I think this one is more accessible (it doesn't feature noise music, but is a lot longer instead) I figured it would be better to watch it first. It's all thinking about you guys. If only anybody would like to watch it, I'd be happy.
Incredible Japanese psychological thriller with a lot of twists and really immoral themes. Kids killing kids? That's wrong on so many levels.
34. Olympia
Hands down the best sports documentary I've ever seen. Thanks to unlimited Nazi money it's technically unbeliveable and shows rivalry like no other film.
33. The Face of Another
Woman in the Dunes was already a movie I loved and I thought nothing from Teshigahara can be better, but the next movie I've seen from him turned out to be a flawless masterpiece. Oh, comely. Neutral Milk Hotel. What?
32. Harakiri
My favourite Jidaigeki film and favourite Nakadai performance. Also it features my favourite melee weapon duel ever.
31. Eureka
Masterful psychological drama as good as My God, My God, Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me?, but I had to pick one and since I think this one is more accessible (it doesn't feature noise music, but is a lot longer instead) I figured it would be better to watch it first. It's all thinking about you guys. If only anybody would like to watch it, I'd be happy.
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Look, I'm not judging you - after all, I'm posting here myself, but maybe, just maybe, if you spent less time here and more time watching films, maybe, and I stress, maybe your taste would be of some value. Just a thought, ya know.
Look, I'm not judging you - after all, I'm posting here myself, but maybe, just maybe, if you spent less time here and more time watching films, maybe, and I stress, maybe your taste would be of some value. Just a thought, ya know.
Last edited by Mr Minio; 09-07-13 at 07:28 PM.
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I think that's the first time I've seen Confessions mentioned on this site. It's a brilliant film and in my top 10 favourites. I wish I could give more rep
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Wooo, The Face of Another!
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The whole thing for me. I know a lot of people love it, and I respect that, but that's just how I felt. I did like the twist but even that was nothing that shocking or special for me. I didn't hate the movie, but I think it's one of those things where you like it less, because of high expectations.
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Yeah, I also though it was quite silly. But still good, but it felt really superficial, like a Nolan movie. It's a movie that's more adequate for 6th graders than adults.
Sorry dude, to suggest a movie about revenge, incest, more revenge, suicide, and more revenge is a movie adequate for 6th graders is, well, odd
I believe one of your favourite films is Dr Strangelove, which is remarkably silly at times, but that's the point. That in no way makes it superficial or a movie for kids. It's the same with Oldboy - of course it's silly at times. All of Park's films are. It's predecessor, Sympathy for Mr Vengeance, was much more silly but that's a technique that Park uses to balance the violence.
In regards to Cricket not liking Oldboy, that is completely understandable. The only thing I would suggest is that he said his issues were expectations - but that isn't the movies fault. Apparently wherever he heard about the movie gave incorrect information. He said it was supposed to be serious - it wasn't. Serious themes, yes, serious movie, no.
Still, nothing wrong with not liking it - certainly not a film that anyone would expect to appeal to everybody but for me it's one of the best films of the last 20 years.
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I actually agree with Guap on that; it's just hard to put it in a way that doesn't offend the film's fans, and it's certainly not meant to do that. Even with the violence and sexuality, I felt it was aimed toward a younger audience. I feel the same way about The Devil's Rejects, which is one of my favorite movies. It has very strong adult content, but it's aimed towards a young audience I think. Same with films like Saw, Hostel, and Battle Royale. Of course Oldboy is more complex than those, but that's just the way I saw it. It could just be my particular point of view, or maybe I'm just getting too old.
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I actually agree with Guap on that; it's just hard to put it in a way that doesn't offend the film's fans, and it's certainly not meant to do that. Even with the violence and sexuality, I felt it was aimed toward a younger audience. I feel the same way about The Devil's Rejects, which is one of my favorite movies. It has very strong adult content, but it's aimed towards a young audience I think. Same with films like Saw, Hostel, and Battle Royale. Of course Oldboy is more complex than those, but that's just the way I saw it. It could just be my particular point of view, or maybe I'm just getting too old.
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You know when you sometimes make a statement, and then everyone piles in, and you get pissed at people picking on you. That was one of those statements
Sorry dude, to suggest a movie about revenge, incest, more revenge, suicide, and more revenge is a movie adequate for 6th graders is, well, odd
13 year olds love stuff like OldBoy, Saw, Battle Royale and Hostel.
However, all these movies are quite good, actually. And I enjoyed greatly all of them but none are actually smart and subtle movies. In fact, my favorite movie, PMMM is quite similar to these movies in tone in many ways (but with a much more intelligent and complex plot and very deep characterization), PMMM is very much like a smarter 4 hour long Saw.
I believe one of your favourite films is Dr Strangelove, which is remarkably silly at times, but that's the point. That in no way makes it superficial or a movie for kids. It's the same with Oldboy - of course it's silly at times.
All of Park's films are. It's predecessor, Sympathy for Mr Vengeance, was much more silly but that's a technique that Park uses to balance the violence.
In regards to Cricket not liking Oldboy, that is completely understandable. The only thing I would suggest is that he said his issues were expectations - but that isn't the movies fault. Apparently wherever he heard about the movie gave incorrect information. He said it was supposed to be serious - it wasn't. Serious themes, yes, serious movie, no.
I don't have any issue with that. I don't agree but can see why someone else may see it that way. However that's somewhat different to what Guap said - which was essentially 11 year olds. To me it's very odd for someone to think a movie like Oldboy is "adequate for" children.
12 year old boys obviously do not watch stuff like Pixar movies, they think it's silly and "for children", they want blood, sex, over the top acting and explosions.
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Dr. Strangelove is a profoundly cynical comedy that's self conscious of it's silliness and is an incredibly smart movie. Oldboy is a silly drama movie that is not conscious of it's silliness. That's a huge difference.
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12 year old boys obviously do not watch stuff like Pixar movies, they think it's silly and "for children", they want blood, sex, over the top acting and explosions.
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Do you think that 12 years old watch what type of movies? I was watching everything when I was 12-13 years old and I liked extremely violent and sexual movies more at that time than I do now at the age of 24.
12 year old boys obviously do not watch stuff like Pixar movies, they think it's silly and "for children", they want blood, sex, over the top acting and explosions.
12 year old boys obviously do not watch stuff like Pixar movies, they think it's silly and "for children", they want blood, sex, over the top acting and explosions.
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Just caught up on this list... Mr Minio was right, I've never heard of any of these.
Jk... it's a pretty damn good list MM... some choices in here that not even some of the most seasoned MoFos would have picked
Jk... it's a pretty damn good list MM... some choices in here that not even some of the most seasoned MoFos would have picked
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