Just...can't...watch trailer...and hear that John Williams score...without....awesomeness attempting to leak out.
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Certainly not. I have some issues with this thing. First of all -- Kylo Ren. I hate the mask. It's not elegant. It's all messed up looking. It looks like a bad dollar store version of a Darth Vader mask.
Second -- having a female (Daisy is obviously the new Luke Skywalker, check out that poster) teaming up with a black guy -- quite frankly this just looks gimmicky. A move to appear progressive. I'm not trying to be sexist or racist, but this is yet again another female Mad Max/female Ghostbusters thing going on here.
Third -- the irritating lack of Luke Skywalker in the promotional materials, including what appears to be the final poster. I'm hoping that poster may change -- maybe this is a gimmick -- they won't show Luke Skywalker on anything UNTIL the movie has been released.
Fourth -- Carrie Fisher's ridiculous, hideous looks in the trailer, on the poster and in the leaked wardrobe fitting pictures.
Fifth -- it feels too J.J. Abrams-ish to me. Yes, he's the director, but that doesn't mean we need to feel him all over it.
I don't care what kind of "new day" it is over in the Star Wars universe ....
NOBODY is really that thrilled about the new cast.
People are mainly excited about the return of Luke, Leia and Han -- even if they are old now.
This pathetic treatment they've been given in the promotional materials.... awful. Absolutely awful. This absence of them... this very small, meager amount... it's not clever. It's pathetic!
They're back! Let's celebrate! NOW is the time! Hurrah hurrah! Let's not wait any longer. NOBODY cares about the new characters.
NOBODY is really that thrilled about the new cast.
People are mainly excited about the return of Luke, Leia and Han -- even if they are old now.
This pathetic treatment they've been given in the promotional materials.... awful. Absolutely awful. This absence of them... this very small, meager amount... it's not clever. It's pathetic!
They're back! Let's celebrate! NOW is the time! Hurrah hurrah! Let's not wait any longer. NOBODY cares about the new characters.
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I don't care what kind of "new day" it is over in the Star Wars universe ....
NOBODY is really that thrilled about the new cast.
People are mainly excited about the return of Luke, Leia and Han -- even if they are old now.
This pathetic treatment they've been given in the promotional materials.... awful. Absolutely awful. This absence of them... this very small, meager amount... it's not clever. It's pathetic!
They're back! Let's celebrate! NOW is the time! Hurrah hurrah! Let's not wait any longer. NOBODY cares about the new characters.
NOBODY is really that thrilled about the new cast.
People are mainly excited about the return of Luke, Leia and Han -- even if they are old now.
This pathetic treatment they've been given in the promotional materials.... awful. Absolutely awful. This absence of them... this very small, meager amount... it's not clever. It's pathetic!
They're back! Let's celebrate! NOW is the time! Hurrah hurrah! Let's not wait any longer. NOBODY cares about the new characters.
The ticket rush, and to a lesser extent the 10 minute trailer reviews, I think will be the reasons why it can't break the opening weekend record. I expect a lot of new and/or casual fans to be intimidated. As somebody who isn't interested in dissecting the deeper meaning C3P0's arm color has about abortion rights, I feel like I don't belong. Before yesterday I thought I might get tickets on opening weekend. If they're selling that much that fast I'll just sit out the first few days. I don't know how box office is tracked in sales vs attendance, but if people are buying 60 tickets is a smaller area I can't see them all going to people, and there will probably be some empty seats.
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Certainly not. I have some issues with this thing. First of all -- Kylo Ren. I hate the mask. It's not elegant. It's all messed up looking. It looks like a bad dollar store version of a Darth Vader mask.
Second -- having a female (Daisy is obviously the new Luke Skywalker, check out that poster) teaming up with a black guy -- quite frankly this just looks gimmicky. A move to appear progressive. I'm not trying to be sexist or racist, but this is yet again another female Mad Max/female Ghostbusters thing going on here.
Good job there aren't any visible Asian characters or you'd be gonging the hell out of the thread.
Third -- the irritating lack of Luke Skywalker in the promotional materials, including what appears to be the final poster. I'm hoping that poster may change -- maybe this is a gimmick -- they won't show Luke Skywalker on anything UNTIL the movie has been released.
Fourth -- Carrie Fisher's ridiculous, hideous looks in the trailer, on the poster and in the leaked wardrobe fitting pictures.
Fifth -- it feels too J.J. Abrams-ish to me. Yes, he's the director, but that doesn't mean we need to feel him all over it.
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I'm really curious to know what the rating will be for this film. Trailer was PG, right? It can't be more than a 12a/PG-13 if they want to sell the maximum amount of toys.
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Well... that wasn't worth the wait.
Ok we see Leia and Han having a cuddle... but no Luke? Disappointing. Still looking forward to the movie, but it's still a disappointing trailer.
Ok we see Leia and Han having a cuddle... but no Luke? Disappointing. Still looking forward to the movie, but it's still a disappointing trailer.
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The very assumption that white men should always and forever be the main characters in everything and that anything else is 'gimmicky' or 'politically correct' is ridiculous.
Personally, I have zero issue with the casting and am surprised it's even a thing; I don't think it's gimmicky and I don't think anyone's trying to make a point with it. But whether you disagree philosophically (IE: it's not a problem when it happens) or factually (IE: it's not happening here), we should be able to disagree with what's actually being said, rather than some extrapolated straw man version of it.
Nobody's saying white men should have a casting monopoly: they're saying they're wary of casting that may be done for reasons outside of the telling of the story itself. That's not an inherently illegitimate position, even though I think it's an unfounded fear in this case.
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NOBODY is really that thrilled about the new cast.
This pathetic treatment they've been given in the promotional materials.... awful. Absolutely awful. This absence of them... this very small, meager amount... it's not clever. It's pathetic!
They're back! Let's celebrate! NOW is the time! Hurrah hurrah! Let's not wait any longer. NOBODY cares about the new characters.
This pathetic treatment they've been given in the promotional materials.... awful. Absolutely awful. This absence of them... this very small, meager amount... it's not clever. It's pathetic!
They're back! Let's celebrate! NOW is the time! Hurrah hurrah! Let's not wait any longer. NOBODY cares about the new characters.
Ah yes, the reason I tend not to use Movie Forums.
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What's funnier is that the entirety of Star Wars is multicultural... and people suddenly want to put some sort of modern PC spin on casting the new movie.
Mace Windu
Lando Calrissian
Watto was clearly Jewish
Jar Jar was played by a black dude with an Islamic name
It's like saying Star Trek is racist toward whites because they had a black actress playing Uhura in 2009 reboot.
Mace Windu
Lando Calrissian
Watto was clearly Jewish
Jar Jar was played by a black dude with an Islamic name
It's like saying Star Trek is racist toward whites because they had a black actress playing Uhura in 2009 reboot.
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This strikes me as an obvious misrepresentation of what you're responding to. Eye rolling at casting quotas (real or imagined) isn't the same thing as saying "white men should always and forever be the main characters."
Personally, I have zero issue with the casting and am surprised it's even a thing; I don't think it's gimmicky and I don't think anyone's trying to make a point with it. But whether you disagree philosophically (IE: it's not a problem when it happens) or factually (IE: it's not happening here), we should be able to disagree with what's actually being said, rather than some extrapolated straw man version of it.
Nobody's saying white men should have a casting monopoly: they're saying they're wary of casting that may be done for reasons outside of the telling of the story itself. That's not an inherently illegitimate position, even though I think it's an unfounded fear in this case.
Personally, I have zero issue with the casting and am surprised it's even a thing; I don't think it's gimmicky and I don't think anyone's trying to make a point with it. But whether you disagree philosophically (IE: it's not a problem when it happens) or factually (IE: it's not happening here), we should be able to disagree with what's actually being said, rather than some extrapolated straw man version of it.
Nobody's saying white men should have a casting monopoly: they're saying they're wary of casting that may be done for reasons outside of the telling of the story itself. That's not an inherently illegitimate position, even though I think it's an unfounded fear in this case.
As for me, I don't have a problem with the casting. Star Wars has always had a diverse cast so I don't see no problems with these actors getting top bill.
It's only when things are OBVIOUSLY trying to be PC that it kinda irks me.
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NOBODY is really that thrilled about the new cast.
Tickets sold out yesterday and the websites all near crashed with the sheer amount of people after tickets...
And now Ebay has come alight with tickets going for as much as $10,000 each.
And now Ebay has come alight with tickets going for as much as $10,000 each.
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Please refer to my thread about how much money Star Wars 7 will make.
I stand by my predictions...
I stand by my predictions...
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About Tree Fiddy (billion that is).Basically impossible, if it's good though perhaps 1.5 billion
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I watched the trailer, and then I watched again.. and again.. and again. It looks amazing;
I really don't care if protagonist is a man, woman, black, white, or is green-no-gender-alien - I just care if character is interesting and well-acted.
I'm not trying to be sexist or racist, but this is yet again another female Mad Max/female Ghostbusters thing going on here.
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Han Solo was originally green skinned with gills... totally racist idea... glad they changed it.
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Tickets sold out yesterday and the websites all near crashed with the sheer amount of people after tickets...
And now Ebay has come alight with tickets going for as much as $10,000 each.
And now Ebay has come alight with tickets going for as much as $10,000 each.
I think I will just wait a week or two to see the flick...
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For those of you who like to dissect the trailer:
10 Amazing Things We Spotted In The Final Star Wars Trailer
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What's funnier is that the entirety of Star Wars is multicultural... and people suddenly want to put some sort of modern PC spin on casting the new movie.
Mace Windu
Lando Calrissian
Watto was clearly Jewish
Jar Jar was played by a black dude with an Islamic name
It's like saying Star Trek is racist toward whites because they had a black actress playing Uhura in 2009 reboot.
Mace Windu
Lando Calrissian
Watto was clearly Jewish
Jar Jar was played by a black dude with an Islamic name
It's like saying Star Trek is racist toward whites because they had a black actress playing Uhura in 2009 reboot.
LOL! Watto was clearly a flagrant Jewish stereotype.
Now why "Jews" or Jewish stereotypes would exist in another galaxy is a philosophical question - perhaps Jehovah is universal and his establishment of "chosen peoples" creates cultural similarities? Or maybe it's a case of Panspermia? Or ancient astronauts who colonized Earth were not the Anunnaki but rather from the ancient tribe of Israel?
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