I forgot the opening line.
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So question for people who have seen
Talk to Me about your interpretation of the ending/last act.
MAJOR SPOILERS, OBVIOUSLY!!!
WARNING: spoilers below
1) Do you believe that what Mia sees at the end (that the kid has gotten better and they're leaving the hospital) is real?
2) If you do believe it is real, do you think that he recovers because Mia sacrificed himself?
I am a bit torn on these two questions.
On one hand, I think that for Mia, hell would be the family just walking away and leaving her behind. We also saw that he was getting worse and not better in terms of the self-harm/possession. Would he really just . . . get better after some time?
And if he did get better because of Mia's sacrifice, then what do we make of her "mother"?
1) Do you believe that what Mia sees at the end (that the kid has gotten better and they're leaving the hospital) is real?
2) If you do believe it is real, do you think that he recovers because Mia sacrificed himself?
I am a bit torn on these two questions.
On one hand, I think that for Mia, hell would be the family just walking away and leaving her behind. We also saw that he was getting worse and not better in terms of the self-harm/possession. Would he really just . . . get better after some time?
And if he did get better because of Mia's sacrifice, then what do we make of her "mother"?
It's interesting to ponder, because I wasn't absolutely certain - but I did lean a certain way :
WARNING: spoilers below
First of all, I eventually learned during this film that whoever these spirits are, they lie an awful lot and seem to have a great deal of power inasmuch as they can appear as whomever and make Mia see pretty much whatever they want her to (while she's alive.) They tricked Mia into killing her father, and nearly tricked her into killing the kid.
So, was the kid really in hell - being tortured by these hell-spirits like the little girl showed he was to Mia? If they had him like that, then why the urgency regarded to them trying to trick Mia into killing him? If you ask me, everything either told to Mia or shown by these spirits wasn't true - just aiding manipulation.
At one stage someone says "I think these spirits have all of the information in our minds when we let them in" - and so I don't think Mia's mother was her mother at all. She lied about not committing suicide and tricked her into killing her father. They used all of the information they'd gleaned against her.
Once Mia had died however, I thought that had probably changed things a great deal. Is everything she sees then a real projection of future events? Well, that one brief line from the kid's mother - "he seems to be getting better, he woke up and interacted with me for the first time" - that had me telling Mia "Oh no! Don't kill him! It's all been a ruse!"
I think he really did get better. I think he was always going to get better, and these nasty spirits wanted Mia to kill him before that happened. They tried so hard - to the point of getting Mia to see him as some kind of perverted, old, nasty spirit goading her on.
I kind of say Mia's sacrificial death as freeing her from the torment, and the truth comes to her as death's release. I wasn't 100% sure about the kid, but that's the way I was leaning. Something I had a frustrating time of not quite understanding was what happened to her father? Did he survive? Is that why she saw him during her death-dream walking away? I don't know - that might also mean he died as well. We get that short scene with him being discovered, clinging to life - but no closure on that one.
First of all, I eventually learned during this film that whoever these spirits are, they lie an awful lot and seem to have a great deal of power inasmuch as they can appear as whomever and make Mia see pretty much whatever they want her to (while she's alive.) They tricked Mia into killing her father, and nearly tricked her into killing the kid.
So, was the kid really in hell - being tortured by these hell-spirits like the little girl showed he was to Mia? If they had him like that, then why the urgency regarded to them trying to trick Mia into killing him? If you ask me, everything either told to Mia or shown by these spirits wasn't true - just aiding manipulation.
At one stage someone says "I think these spirits have all of the information in our minds when we let them in" - and so I don't think Mia's mother was her mother at all. She lied about not committing suicide and tricked her into killing her father. They used all of the information they'd gleaned against her.
Once Mia had died however, I thought that had probably changed things a great deal. Is everything she sees then a real projection of future events? Well, that one brief line from the kid's mother - "he seems to be getting better, he woke up and interacted with me for the first time" - that had me telling Mia "Oh no! Don't kill him! It's all been a ruse!"
I think he really did get better. I think he was always going to get better, and these nasty spirits wanted Mia to kill him before that happened. They tried so hard - to the point of getting Mia to see him as some kind of perverted, old, nasty spirit goading her on.
I kind of say Mia's sacrificial death as freeing her from the torment, and the truth comes to her as death's release. I wasn't 100% sure about the kid, but that's the way I was leaning. Something I had a frustrating time of not quite understanding was what happened to her father? Did he survive? Is that why she saw him during her death-dream walking away? I don't know - that might also mean he died as well. We get that short scene with him being discovered, clinging to life - but no closure on that one.