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Let's hear it for the French Resistance to Bush's right-wing militant agenda!




What the hell is this thread for may I ask? Is there a point? an issue or even anything to discuss, im sorry I pled ignorance and can honestly say I dont know whats going on here.



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Originally posted by Naisy
What the hell is this thread for may I ask? Is there a point? an issue or even anything to discuss, im sorry I pled ignorance and can honestly say I dont know whats going on here.
It's here to speak out against America's ham-fisted, imperialistic agenda.



I think this thread is about as asinine as the uproar over the word “French fry”.....
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Hear hear! In every anti-Bush march from here on out, we should replace 'American' with the much more noble qualifier 'French' to everything. So now instead of calling it American football, it's French football. Who's up for an All-French Burger at Friday's?

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Originally posted by Caitlyn
I think this thread is about as asinine as the uproar over the word “French fry”.....
So is the attitude that the French are taking with the world.

I won't rant incoherently,
but I have a lot to say about France, Germany and Russia,
and whether anyone here takes it as a rant, or not, it's your opinion, and you're entitled to it.

The latest NON-aggressive proposal (NON-aggressive, people) by the U.S. and Britian was rejected by France without even looking at it. What does that tell you about the French and how ignorant they really are? They didn't even read it or look at it, they just rejected it. If that dosen't spell ignorant, what does?

France and their singleminded ignorance is the problem, NOT the United States and Britian. We bend over backward for them and they still give us their wine and cheese covered middle finger.

And Germany and Russia have their own agendas:

Basically, the countries opposing the US: France, Germany
and Russia, have always been enemies, but they are using
this opportunity to band together and get back at America for toppling their regimes in the past. And if there is ANY nation who has no right to criticize the U.S. about aggression, it is Germany.
( I don't think I need to explain this one folks.)

It's not about OIL, it's not about INNOCENT CIVILIANS, it's a chance for 3 traditional European enemies to take down their common enemy (the US) so they can continue their old world bickering that led to WW1 and 2.

Do you think that they really give a **** about each other
outside the UN? No...if America isolated Europe after WW2, and NATO and the UN never existed, Europe would STILL be in flames because of the old world imperialist attitude that there can only be one master of all the countries of Europe.

So think about this the next time you agree with France, Germany or Russia-they have alterior motives bent on suiting their OWN needs, while feeding the world a cover story about their concern for human rights and innocent civilians.

And yes, I still think that Saddam and Bin Laden have to die. The world does NOT have to bend to the will of every terrorist, or terrorist supporter, who thinks that the world is going to bend to his or her will every time they strap a bomb onto their back or smash jetliners into American landmarks...



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The point I'm making here is that the French, by opposing Bush's push for a war in Iraq, are making a stand against right-wing militancy, in the same way that the French Resistance fought against the Nazi occupational forces during WWII.



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Originally posted by Django
The point I'm making here is that the French, by opposing Bush's push for a war in Iraq, are making a stand against right-wing militancy, in the same way that the French Resistance fought against the Nazi occupational forces during WWII.
You are aware of that Chirac himself is a right-wing militant, I hope. Let me remind you that he was the mind behind France's atomic bomb tests in the 90's and that he's these days fraternising with dictators like Mugabe at the same time that he claims to be a peace dove. He was also the one closing the deals with Saddam in the 90's, selling Mirage planes, among a lot of other things.

Chirac is just the type of guy who would fit into the Vichy government during the german occupation in WWII. An opportunist.
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It is important to note that Chirac is not all for peace, but is all for making France an important political force again.



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Originally posted by Piddzilla


You are aware of that Chirac himself is a right-wing militant, I hope. Let me remind you that he was the mind behind France's atomic bomb tests in the 90's and that he's these days fraternising with dictators like Mugabe at the same time that he claims to be a peace dove. He was also the one closing the deals with Saddam in the 90's, selling Mirage planes, among a lot of other things.

Chirac is just the type of guy who would fit into the Vichy government during the german occupation in WWII. An opportunist.
Maybe so, but if Chirac is an opportunist, he is only opportunizing on the majority of opinion in his own country. The French people as a whole are opposed to this war--and not only the French--the opposition to the war is a global phenomenon. People everywhere--average, ordinary people--are demonstrating in opposition to the war. Even in the US!



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Originally posted by Django
The point I'm making here is that the French, by opposing Bush's push for a war in Iraq, are making a stand against right-wing militancy, in the same way that the French Resistance fought against the Nazi occupational forces during WWII.
Maybe you've been asleep during all of this Django, but the reason the French is opposing us and our war is becuase they have huge money tied up in Saddams oil. They are afraid that if we kick Saddam out, they will loose money. I can't really blame them, becuase, although what they are doing is morally wrong, their economy demands it. I remember stating this earlier, but heres it goes again. Everyone always accuses this war of being over the oil. Well maybe it is, I don't know, I'm not Bush. But whatever were doing for gain, France is doing 10 times that. The "French Resistance" as you put it is their to cover their own corruption, not stand against the right. But enough of that.

You aren't comparing conservatives to Nazis are you?

Another thing is that durnig WWII the French had a little system of appeasment. They appeased Hitler as opposed to attempt to stop him. They didn't see him as much of a threat. Mistake. They invaded France anyway, and THEN there was a French resistance. Frances incompetant system of appeasment caused the deaths of many people, including millions of Jews that they paved the way for to be slaughtered. (Not to say that France intended this, but had they tryed to stop them...the results might've been different).

I don't mind your liberal posts Django, but at least get your facts straight. There are several valid things you could complain about or compliment instead of this "French Resistance" crap.
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I disagree. I am sure that France do know his warheads exist. But I think that they think they can kill two birds with one stone and not have a war, and be a relevent political power again, by opposing the war. I do think that they have the right to oppose it though, whatever their motives. But to say that France is stupid. Or to call France and Germany Old Europe just because they disagree with American policy [does that make me Old Clayfield? Or what?] is wrong.



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Originally posted by Beale the Rippe


Maybe you've been asleep during all of this Django, but the reason the French is opposing us and our war is becuase they have huge money tied up in Saddams oil. They are afraid that if we kick Saddam out, they will loose money. I can't really blame them, becuase, although what they are doing is morally wrong, their economy demands it. I remember stating this earlier, but heres it goes again. Everyone always accuses this war of being over the oil. Well maybe it is, I don't know, I'm not Bush. But whatever were doing for gain, France is doing 10 times that. The "French Resistance" as you put it is their to cover their own corruption, not stand against the right. But enough of that.

You aren't comparing conservatives to Nazis are you?

And I don't recall calling France any names. I said their actions were not moral, but I also said how I understand why they are doing this. I think their country NEEDS it. It doen't make it right though. I also said that France was incompetant during parts of WW2, because they were. (You may have been talking to someone else though).