US tarrifs on foreign films?

While I am all for well-reasoned criticism of a policy that’s clearly not helpful, part of the problem is that it isn’t even a well-defined policy yet…

From the NYT story:

Well, I mean if the best the industry can do is Ant Aquaman Meets The Avengers Age of Ultron End Civil War Game 27-1/2 AND that IS the best Hollywood IS putting out now in a world where Sunset Blvd, Gone With the Wind, and North by Northwest exist, then yes, the industry needs to die.

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It’s supply and demand… when audiences demand more of XYZ, Hollywood supplies more of XYZ.

You may as well blame the audiences.

Apples and oranges here

idk when you start restricting access to stuff you don't have some kind of influence over it starts to sound a bit like a state sponsored media situation

Which isn’t necessarily the same thing as censorship.
Such as in this case.

This line of thinking assumes that 1) the enforcement of the Hays Code was responsible in some way for those films you mention being "great", and 2) that time won't be as kind with more recent films as it has been to some of those you mention. I mean, even Citizen Kane wasn't heralded as the masterpiece it is today back then.

The other thing is that you argue about the poor state Hollywood is in now and how "some of the best films" from the past decade are "mostly all indie stuff" only to look back at a time and conditions when studios pretty much had a chokehold on the film industry.

This is one of those things were every generation just thinks that the past times were better, that the glory days are gone, and the system is beyond repair. I'm sure that people in the 60s, the 40s, the 20s, all complained about the same. Anyway, there will always be great films, there will always be crap films, and there will always be mediocre films that people will forget 4, 10, 20 years after.

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i'm probably using the wrong word but whatever the word is for when the government suppresses the flow of information it doesn't approve of is what i'm meaning to say.

I understand what you’re trying to say, but this doesn’t have to do with suppression any information. What information are the other countries relaxinf in their movies that would make it worth suppressing?

COVID is clearly far more to blame for the decline in movie theater attendance in the U.S. than an increase in Americans watching foreign films (American films have always generated more exposure in America than foreign language films do). Even though the lockdown is long gone, we're still seeing its lasting effects. Streaming services grew much bigger throughout that time and plenty of Americans are choosing to continue using them rather than return to the theaters.

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we're probably at the point where this thread is gonna get nuked here so i'll just say that it doesn't matter what the information is, it's that it's not their information.

It absolutely matters if it’s the reason being given.
This is more Occams’s Razor than conspiracy, however. It’s jingoism, plain and simple.

I don’t know about that, it could be a lot simpler. Just something being used for leverage against the studios and streamers, in order to obtain concessions or something. What that “something” might be, I couldn’t possibly say.

Jingoism: "Extreme nationalism characterized especially by a belligerent foreign policy; chauvinistic patriotism."

Perfect. I wasn't aware that's what jingoism meant. Something relevant to add to my lexicon.

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I think what your trying to point to is some kind of anti america rethoric or anti-trump rhetoric from foreign films. I doubt that. But, one way i could see this being applicable is to start this way and then move to films made in the U.S. Scrubbing all the airwaves from the edges in.


In reality, i think its just about a certain kind of nationalism that i wont bring up here.