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18. RAN
17. Dr. Strangelove


After my guess for 17, I think we might get 3 Kubricks in the top 20, but I don't think Spartacus is going to be one of them.



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My list so far. Seen 72/82


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I like The Great Escape but it did not make my list. I haven't seen The Cranes Are Flying, but I know I should.



Falling behind again. I'm going to rip through the pages a bit, reading/scanning most of what you fine people are saying.

Braveheart is a pretty good movie but it's been a very, very long time since I actually sat down and watched it. I wonder if old(er) man Mike would like it as much. Still wasn't on my radar for this war countdown but fair enough it deserves inclusion. The Deer Hunter is an excellent film. Both parts of it. It would have probably just missed my top 50.

The Battle of Algiers was my #1! Brilliant film and one of my all-time favourites. Every time I watch it has the same impact as that first time. To be fair my top 5 war films could be moved around depending on my mood but I went with this one and don't regret the decision. The Pianist is another excellent film. I remember seeing this in the cinema and being significantly affected by what I saw. It was a late cut from my war list and easily would rank in my top 50.

I played with the idea of including The Great Dictator, Duck Soup, or both of them, but eventually decided against and kept the brilliant silliness/seriousness combo to a minimum on my list. Just outside of what I wanted to include on my war ballot. The Best Years of Our Lives is the classic post-war anti-war film that stands the test of time. Glad to see it here.

The Cranes are Flying is an excellent film. Between this and Soy Cuba, Kalatazov is such a visual striking filmmaker (will also give credit to the cinematographer for this) but also with a film like Cranes it's still emotional and impactful. Top 50 for me for sure. I had to include The Great Escape at #20 though. I think it was grade 10 my social studies teacher walked in the room and announced "We're going to watch my favourite movie and discuss it over the next couple of weeks." It was great. We went into a lot of detail on each character and their role. I think this was my teacher's favourite part of his year. I wonder if this somehow fed into my eventual deep interest in movies. Maybe. But I can always go back to this film remember those great two weeks and enjoy this 100% fun and exciting movie!

1. The Battle of Algiers (1966)
5. The Human Condition I: No Greater Love (1959)
9. Shoah (1985)
10. The General (1926)
15. Army of Shadows (1969)
18. Waltz with Bashir (2007)
19. Rome, Open City (1945)
20. The Great Escape (1963)
21. Letters from Iwo Jima (2006)
23. Three Kings (1999)
24. Underground (1995)
25. La Commune (Paris, 1871) (2003)
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#18 #18
251 points, 15 lists
Ran
Director

Akira Kurosawa, 1985

Starring

Tatsuya Nakadai, Akira Terao, Jinpachi Nezu, Daisuke Ry?



#17 #17
264 points, 18 lists
The Thin Red Line
Director

Terrence Malick, 1998

Starring

Sean Penn, Jim Caviezel, Adrien Brody, Ben Chaplin



HINTS BREAKDOWN:


18: Ran is a samurai-style adaptation of a Shakespeare play.


17: Indy's adventure is detailed across the map by a thin red line.


Our top two got one right each.



I love Ran. It is my favorite Kurosawa, but I didn't include it. For some reason, it didn't come to mind when thinking about war films, but if I had thought about it, I would've put it fairly high. Here is my full review, but here's an excerpt from it:

"There are many things that I could say about the film. It is definitely an epic in all its spectacle and scope. The setpieces are breathtaking and grandiose, the set and production design is perfect, and Kurosawa's direction is pretty much flawless. His framing and use of color and symmetry on the shots is so gorgeous that you want to take them and put them on a wall. In addition, Kurosawa uses numerous shots of nature, from the mountains and clouds to the chilling last shot, perhaps in an attempt to contrast the beauty and order of nature against the chaos ("ran") of humanity's struggles and wars."
It is indeed an amazing film.

As for The Thin Red Line, it's been too long since I saw it. I know I rented it back in 1998 and it really wasn't for me at the moment. I just couldn't get into Malick's meditative vibe at the moment and I'm pretty sure I dozed off through long portions of the film. I've been meaning to rewatch it now that I'm older and obviously wiser but since I've also liked the other two Malick films I've seen, I'm pretty sure I will appreciate it more.


Seen: 36/84
Ballot: 10/25

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I love Ran. It is my favorite Kurosawa, but I didn't include it. For some reason, it didn't come to mind when thinking about war films, but if I had thought about it, I would've put it fairly high.
This is pretty much word-for-word what I was going to say, although High and Low or Seven Samurai is my favorite of his. Shame me if you must, but I totally relied on the Letterboxd genre tags while putting my list together and "war" is surprisingly not one of them for Ran.



Haven't seen Ran but I dearly want to. One day. The Thin Red Line for me, is a collosal bore. Except for the middle part with Nick Nolte screaming at his men to take the hill, the inner dialogues put me to sleep. So, no votes.

#4 1917 Forward! #31
#7 The Longest Day Hit the beach! #36
#8 Hacksaw Ridge On point #67
#10 The Hurt Locker Bombs away! #58
#12 Dunkirk Retreat! #47
#15 Patton "Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!"
#17 The Best Years of Our Lives “I had a dream. I dreamt I was home. I've had that same dream hundreds of times before. This time, I wanted to find out if it's really true. Am I really home?” #21
#18 The Dirty Dozen "Killin' generals could get to be a habit with me." #32
#21 Tora! Tora! Tora! In the vanguard #63
#23 The Deer Hunter "Stanley, see this? This is this. This ain't something else. This is this. From now on, you're on your own." #25
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Ran was my number 5. On my list: Perfectly capturing Shakespearean tension (as well as some of the comedy), Ran is a samurai translation that relies on powerful acting and expressions that even Seven Samurai's cast didn't pull off.


This is my third highest-rated Kurosawa film behind #1: Seven Samurai, and #2: Red Beard.


The Thin Red Line wasn't on my ballot. It came close, but I gave it the same criticism I gave Southern Comfort: if it had more chatacter development, it might've been in my top ten movies. On my list: Malick's 20-year hiatus ends with a highly realistic and expertly-filmed look at the duties of a soldier, only made slow by lacking individualization between characters.



1. The Best Years of Our Lives (1946)
2. Jojo Rabbit (2019)
4. To Be or Not To Be (1942)
5. Wings (1927)
9. The General (1926)
10. Ran (1985)
11. 1917 (2019)
13. The Killing Fields (1984)
14. Grand Illusion (1937)
16. Patton (1970)
19. The Caine Mutiny (1954)
21. Hacksaw Ridge (2016
23. The Great Escape (1963)


I should have four left, and I'll have seen 75/100 (thanks for the prediction list, Holden!)



Pretty sure 20 isn't Braveheart unless it's the 2005 remake for Japanese TV.

(Braveheart was #26)
D'oh!


As for the reveals, nope and nope. Haven't seen either. I am sure I will see RAN at some point in time, but Malick puts me too sleep.



The Thin Red Line was my #6, love me some Malick wanderingisms, whispering narratives, and beautiful pictures. I included another Malick on my list but it's probably not long for this countdown.

Ran is another fantastic looking and made film, maybe my favorite Kurosawa although I haven't watched any of his pics in quite a long time. Completely worthy entries today.



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#17. The Thin Red Line (1998) got 15 pts from me landing at #11 on my ballot.

Saw it in theater when it was released. The special atmosphere it creates is enough for me to consider this film for lists like this one.

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85/100

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My Ballot

1. Empire of the Sun (1987) [#40]
2.
3. The Pianist (2002) [#23]
4.
5. Underground (1995) [#43]
6. The Deer Hunter (1978) [#25]
7.
8. Ivan's Childhood (1962) [#56]
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10. The Great Dictator (1940) [#22]
11. The Thin Red Line (1998) [#17]
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14. Enemy at the Gates (2001) [#88]
15. The Hill (1965) [#94]
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18. The Hurt Locker (2008) [#58]
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The Thin Red Line was my #6 and Ran was my #24. Both fantastic films.

Seen: 61/84

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