Marijuana: Do you do it?

Thanks!

Would it make you feel better, if I said "roughly" 68 percent!?!

I was repeating what I was told from a member of the lunch staff. She guessed it at 68 percent. I'm glad this is important. They smelt of it, and had the munchies. I'll trust her word, slick!

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Thanks sweetie i am feeling better this morning I don't get like I was yesterday that often Just haveing then give Boris a bath, then off to have a manicure and a pedicure then on our road trip up the coast to my Girlfriends for the weekend


Bong on

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Have fun, Nebs!

ummm BECAUSE I GO TO SCHOOL and i know many kids from diffrent schools around the world who get taught the same thing. Is that supported enough for you, pal?


Most kids do. Welcome to reality.

Those "folks" are called responsible parents.

It's completly your right to what education you want to give your kids but all home schooling does, is sheild kids from the real world. Normall school might have problems but atleast it gives your kids a real world understanding.

Also what are you going to do when your kids go to colledge, as there is heaps of drugs there.

The stuff in bold (mainly the first bit) sums up perfectly what my point is.

I know most people would disagree here but if i had kids i would rather my kid comming home one day smoking pot rather than drunk or with cigarettes on him.

Tobaco will kill you quicker than weed ever would.

Those "folks" are called responsible parents.

I kind of agree on that, but then it might, or WILL give kids a reason to go ahead and do it, and even if they're doing it the safe way, these kids are like in junior high and they don't really know what they're doing and what they want... it'll affect them emotionally in a big way.

I am in my first year of junior high, and I would never even think about doing that stuff this young. I think I'll enjoy being a kid first.

I'm a pal-ette, if that matters. And you represent just one school. I was asking a fairly generic question and I later clarified that my point was more about making general blanket statements about ANYTHING. I used my question as an example. You just can't take one or two (or ten) anecdotal examples and make a general blanket statement.

Thanks, because I'm sure most folks here would say I don't live in reality. Also, again, "most"? Support this with statistics? And then again, "most" is not "all." More unsupported, sweeping statements.


Oh, I see. So, if I don't hand out condoms to my 13-yr-olds, I'm not a responsible parent? Please. I've been a parent longer than you've been alive, and so far I'm pretty proud of the choices all my kids have made.

Ask Yoda.

Thanks for your approval. Up until now I was worried.

This is the oldest bad-argument in the world against homeschooling, and it shows you haven't got a speck of research about it. Again, my kids have been homeschooled longer than you've been alive. Statistics are not on your side here.

Plus, if you want anecdotal evidence, ask Yoda how much he was shielded from the outside world. Because, you know, he's so weak and naive and stuff....

By then they're adults and able to make their own decisions. And I just don't see any of them becoming druggies at that point. By then they've been taught to be independent thinkers who can make rational decisions.

If they choose to dabble in pot, do you think I'm going to freak out or think I'm a bad parent? No. (Except for the breaking-the-law part.) But honestly, I have two adult children (ages 24 and 22) and both are responsible adults who contribute to society. A third is heading off to a post-secondary education next year. I'm sure she'll be fine too.

Forgive me if I'm not worried about the "children" I've raised and watched turn into intelligent, well-rounded adults.

And forgive me if your opinions on what YOU would do with YOUR children just don't influence how I raise my own children. Just not interested, frankly.

But thanks for the interesting peek into how well the education system works -- since my kids think more logically, spell more accurately, and can argue more consistently.

Now, where were we?

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Wow this page (19) is so full of inaccuracy, ignorance, and blow-ups that I don't really know where to begin.

But begin I must.

First, Daffodil, you're 13, so I'm kind of surprised you still think this way, but look: there's already enough incentive for sex that many people are going to get balling relatively early anyway. A parent ragging on them constantly about the dangers is, in many cases, going to encourage the behavior. At least handing out condoms, there's less risk of being a grandparent to your 14 year old's child. I don't happen to see a downside here, since if they're sheltered and not planning on sex anyway a parent giving them a way to be safe isn't going to make them any more likely to go for it. Being 16, maybe I can't comment well enough here for people like Austruck to take me seriously, but I've never seen much behind the fear of sex to begin with; I assume it all stems from the danger of pregnancy. Nevertheless those that look on it as "sin" and whatnot are totally beyond me... since we all seem to be dishing this one out on one another --> they need a strong dose of reality.

Continuing on from Daffodil now, I'll turn to king_of_movies. Listen man, I agree with you on some points, but you're not really helping your point here; as Austruck pointed out, there's far too many errors and blanket statements in your posts for many people to take them seriously. In some cases there is evidence, IIRC, to back you up, but you have to take the time to find it and state it with a degree of accuracy. Tearing into other forum members isn't a great idea either as from what I've seen we like to avoid hostility here.

Ah, now for Austruck, specifically. Way to lose the cool here at the end, when you've been doing so well Whether or not you've made just simply awesome decisions regarding what kids should and should not be exposed to, you do seem to be hiding a bit from the nature of things beyond hearth and home. Really, I was kind of surprised at your hostility. Just because king is acting poorly doesn't mean you have to as well. I would like to address your "breaking the law" point: everything is illegal. Breathing is illegal in this country. <-- That's a quote from John Nichols, and boy does it apply here. We have too many laws and regulations regarding harmless or self-harming activities etc. that "the law" is really no longer a concern. Of course, I'm not condoning murder, robbery, rape, fraud, etc. But there's so much corruption now it's like walking through a blizzard, and petty laws don't help.

I'm not even sure where to begin to address your post, Sawman. I wasn't being hostile toward king. Honestly -- it was sarcasm, sure, but not hostile. I'm just tired of some folks answering my rationally written responses with blanket statements and overstatements and misstatements, despite my having said that such statements are just a waste of time.

And no, my kids are not hiding behind hearth and home. If only you knew how ridiculous that statement is -- actually, not only in my case but in the case of every homeschooling family I know. (And I bet I know more than you do.)

I dislike using anecdotal evidence for stuff like this, but since you're sure that my kids are somehow naive and hidden from the world, let me assure you they're not. Yoda's a great little speck of anecdotal evidence himself. (I keep mentioning him because you guys know him, but I have three other kids who are equally unshielded.) My youngest, age 15, is constantly frustrated when talking with her "regular school" friends because they may have opinions about the upcoming election (for example) but they can't back up their opinions with any sort of actual facts. She can.

All my kids are engaged in the world and active in their own lives and the lives of others.

As for legality: I threw that in there because it would actually be my primary concern if they tried pot: getting arrested. Not a big concern, but one I felt I should mention. I've tried to teach them to respect the law of the land as much as possible. What we do in America if we don't like laws is to work to change them, not just rampantly break them in the meantime.

And no, despite what John Nichols says, breathing is not illegal. I haven't a clue where you were going with that statement. Everything's illegal...? Sure, whatever. Good luck with that worldview.

Sorry for the added sarcasm, but this method of argumentation gets a little wearying after a while.

Escher posters, hilarious. I'm not a huge herber but I definitely enjoy the CHOICE to partake. I'm old enough to rent a car, drive, serve in the military, buy a gun, and drink alcohol. And I can't puff a jay in the privacy of my own home? Truly outrageous. No one to blame other than the massive tobacco industry that would rather we kill ourselves smoking cigarettes than commune serenely with nature's nip.

I like discussion as much as the next guy; don't put words in my mouth.

I never said that. Look carefully, shall we? "...you do seem to be hiding a bit from the nature of things beyond hearth and home." That's what I said, and it was directed at you, not your kids. And it had nothing to do with home-schooling; rather it had everything to do with your outlook on the world at large.

Just thought it applied to an extent to the thread at large; I don't believe that it was intended to be literal. The point is there are a lot of laws that hold no place or are subject to corruption and irrelevance. E.G., cracking down on otherwise law abiding decent citizens for smoking marijuana while making deals on the side with hard-drug pushers like the Mafia and, as historical evidence, Frank Lucas.

Haha, right on man.

I agree that there are too many stupid laws out there, Sawman. We might perhaps disagree on whether marijuana use should be illegal or not. (I'm not sure where I stand on that.) My point in brushing off *your* point is that whether there are already too many laws is at best tangential to the discussion. I don't think anyone would advocate the implied result: that we should get rid of the marijuana laws because there are too many laws. You gotta come up with a better reason than that.

In regard to talking about me and my outlook: I don't see how you could have read my other posts in this thread and come down on my outlook on life or this topic. I think I've been fairly rational and reasonable when stating my opinions on this topic. If you don't *agree* with my outlook, that's fine. But to imply that I can't or don't look beyond hearth and home in my outlook is presumptuous ... and inaccurate.

Dark Night Shyamalan: Now THERE'S a person getting us right back on topic! Bravo!

Rep'd...

I think everyone was having a bad morning, I know I was. In the end I suppose we have to agree to disagree. I still don't think I'm making my ideas clear enough, or my reasons I suppose, on the laws point, but I'd rather let it lie ATM as I doubt we'll agree here

Carry on.

Repped back atcha.

I don't mind the agree-to-disagree mentality. It's all good.

I'm going to interject on page 19 (it sucks leaving for a bit and coming back). I don't smoke (marijuana). I do smoke cigs and cigars, also have hit a hooka a couple of times. I've never tried drugs and I don't care to. Also, I can't afford it. I pay enough a month for my right to drive. I do think that marijuana should be legalized for purposes of tax profit. Enough people do it.

I'm not going to force my opinions on anyone. Carry on and do what makes you the happiest, because in the end that's all that matters. I have a ton of friends that smoke weed. I don't look at them any differently than I do the one's who don't. They just have different interests than I do.

A side note. I hate waiting on tables that are higher than an SR-71. They waste my time, make my section smell and generally don't know who they are let alone how to tip. It's very frustrating.

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I brought my two boys up the same - they're 25 and 21 now. One smokes dope, one doesn't. I love them both, they both have great jobs and lead good lives. It's his choice to smoke, it's not something I worry about, and it's not something he worries about either. I worry more about the other son who drives a fast car, but that's another story